Re: KR> KR2 damaged elevator

[Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet]

Pitch sensitivity is an overblown item, Virg


On 1/12/2017 10:42 AM, Deon-tsrc via KRnet wrote:

Hi Virgil

The KR2 apparently suffers from too much pitch sensitivity.

Later designs resulted in the KR2S which has a longer fuselage length
increasing the moment arm of the tail. Another idea was too increase the
surface area of the horizontal stabilizer (see Mark Langford's
discussion about this).

Since my A/C body is already built, option 2 is my only option. I know
one can get used to the sensitivity but in the early stages we that are
used to C172's struggle (so I am told). Having the CoG in the front also
helps.

I hope I answered your question?

Deon


On 12/01/2017 15:55, Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet wrote:


What pitch sensitivity ? Virg



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Re: KR> KR2 damaged elevator

[Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet]

What pitch sensitivity ? Virg


On 1/12/2017 1:47 AM, Deon-tsrc via KRnet wrote:

Good day




I was thinking that in the process I should reduce pitch sensitivity by
enlarging the tail area as well. So removing the aft spar of the
horizontal stabilizer and install a longer one.

Suggestions?

Regards
Deon

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Re: KR> Stub wing leading edge stall strip

[Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet]

You prevent rolling with the Rudder, Virg


On 1/7/2017 5:04 PM, Dave McCauley via KRnet wrote:




Has anyone added a stall strip to the leading edge of the stub wing like on

the Grumman Yankee?

Stall strips are usually added to ensure that the inboard portion of the
wing stall first - before the outboard portion.  With the ailerons on the
outboard portion of the wing are stalled, there is no longitudinal control
and no way to prevent rolling.  The KR2 and other modern designs have
washout build into the wings which obviates the need for stall strips.

Dave McCauley



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KR> Foam

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Two Pound / per cubic foot Polyurethane Foam, Green color, Virg


On 12/16/2016 10:01 AM, codylee.cramer via KRnet wrote:
>
> Who do you use as your supplier for foam and what are you using? I need to 
> replace the foam in the stub wings that I cut out to install the Diehl main 
> gear and I am having troubles locating a good foam to work with.
> Cody CramerMiddleburg, florida
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KR> Hand propping VW

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Want a KR-1 Boat, etc ? Send full E-Mail address so I can get you off 
list.
Virg


On 11/19/2016 6:37 PM, jibby212--- via KRnet wrote:
> I am in Sarasota Florida, currently I am building an oven an am going to try 
> to blow the canopy a little taller so I can fit in it.
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet 
> To: KRnet 
> Cc: Virgil N. Salisbury 
> Sent: Sat, Nov 19, 2016 06:06 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> Hand propping VW
>
>
>   Where are you located ? Virg
>
>
>
>   On 11/14/2016 10:44 PM, Rudi Venter via KRnet wrote:
>> Hi Everyone.
>>
>> I own a KR2 with a 2.3l water-cooled VW without electric start. I found
>> that once you have the priming cycle sorted out it really starts easy and
>> it is not dangerous, no more than any other hand propped engine.
>>
>> I agree with the rule "NEVER open the throttle more than a crack" for
>> starting!
>>
>> Wish I could get my hands on a KR1, I just love little single seaters
>> having recently acquired a Druine D.31 Turbulent.
>>
>> Fly safe,
>> Rudi
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KR> Hand propping VW

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Where are you located ? Virg



On 11/14/2016 10:44 PM, Rudi Venter via KRnet wrote:
> Hi Everyone.
>
> I own a KR2 with a 2.3l water-cooled VW without electric start. I found
> that once you have the priming cycle sorted out it really starts easy and
> it is not dangerous, no more than any other hand propped engine.
>
> I agree with the rule "NEVER open the throttle more than a crack" for
> starting!
>
> Wish I could get my hands on a KR1, I just love little single seaters
> having recently acquired a Druine D.31 Turbulent.
>
> Fly safe,
> Rudi
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KR> customer service at nvaero

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Good thoughts and Patience work wonders, Virg
Thank You Steve

On 10/17/2016 6:34 PM, Robert Dunleavy via KRnet wrote:
> It seems to be human nature to only report the bad so I thought I would try 
> to break that trend. I have been getting more serious about building a

  KR2s and have been studying the plans in detail. I realized last week 
I was missing a drawing. I sent Steve an email about this and had barely 
hit

the send key when my phone rang. It was Steve at NVaero, I told him what 
was missing, he said he would mail it to me in a week or so and we

had a very nice talk about kr's in general. Went to the mailbox today 
and there was my missing drawing as promised (thanks Steve).

  I know there has been some negative reports posted about NVaero's 
customer service but  this is my second dealing with Steve and

  I have had only good experiences. I think Steve is doing a great 
jobthanks again...Robert
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KR> Thanks to sponsors

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Please see that the ones I donated are put to good use, Virg


On 9/19/2016 4:33 PM, Larry Flesner via KRnet wrote:
> At 12:43 PM 9/19/2016, you wrote:
>>  Are these the Tapes I donated a couple of years ago ? Virg
> +
>
> No, these are some vhs tapes that Tommy had and brought to the Gathering.
>
> Larry Flesner

KR> Thanks to sponsors

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Are these the Tapes I donated a couple of years ago ? Virg


On 9/19/2016 11:01 AM, Tommy Waymack via KRnet wrote:
> Just want to thank my sponsors who made my trip possible[gas money]Mark
> Langford,Terry Chizek,and John Shaffer.Terry and John bought the spark
> plugs,John and Mark bought the KR gathering VHS tapes.Thanks again to
> them.Let's hope that those tapes can be changed to digital and made
> available to the KR  community.Tommy W.
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KR> gathering

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Where is LXT ? Virg


On 9/18/2016 2:24 PM, Rob Schmitt via KRnet wrote:
> Joe,
>
> I can confirm I was the lucky looser. Next years KR Gathering will be at LXT 
> the weekend of 23 Sep, 2017.
>
> I'll try and do a good job. I've already had several folks who have 
> volunteered to help out. So plug it into you calendar and your autopilot!
>
> I've got your altimeter so send me your address off-line and I'll send you a 
> check.
>
> I'll let Larry post the results of the awards. Don't want to make a mistake 
> on who won what.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob Schmitt

KR> Wankel Rotary

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Hot exhaust, yes. Loud, yes.Sealing issues solved years ago. Virg


On 8/26/2016 11:01 AM, Harold Wagenknecht via KRnet wrote:
> Doran,
>
> I will call you tomorrow  Stay away from wankels Very hot exhaust 
> Loud Sealing issues.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Doran Jaffas via KRnet > list.krnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Has there been a successful installation of a Wankel rotary in a KR2? I
>> have a chance to pick one up that came out of an airplane but I wanted to
>> check hete first. No turbo on this one.
>> Thanks.
>>  Doran
>>  1983 KR2 restoration
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KR> Wankel Rotary

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Regular Rotary is heavy. Need a single rotor, Virg


On 8/25/2016 4:40 PM, Doran Jaffas via KRnet wrote:
> Has there been a successful installation of a Wankel rotary in a KR2? I
> have a chance to pick one up that came out of an airplane but I wanted to
> check hete first. No turbo on this one.
>  Thanks.
>   Doran
>   1983 KR2 restoration
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KR> Outer spar airfoil taper

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Try the past news letters, Virg


On 8/19/2016 1:32 PM, Jim Litchfield via KRnet wrote:
> I am ready to cut the airfoil taper on the outer spars.
>
> Recently someone posted a link to a picture showing how they had built a
> jig setup to cut the taper using what appeared to be a wood rasp.
> Can anyone provide the link ?
>
> I have read Mark's site showing how he did it on a table saw and and I am
> inspired by his gutsy approach, however I am not so confident that I can
> duplicate the process without ruining some expensive wood not to mention
> the long hours of construction of the spars themselves.
>
> I have a table saw & a belt sander but would like to evaluate the slower
> hand method. I am sure the hand method is more time consuming but I can go
> slow with confidence. The faster methods are definitely faster but the
> mistakes can happen all too quickly.
>
> If anyone can provide the link or the builders name it would be much
> appreciated.
> I have searched the archives with no luck
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Litchfield
> S.E. Virginia
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KR> KR2 Project for sale

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Is this the one from Marietta Ga ? It had a GAW airfoil and spoilers,
not Ailerons, IIRC, Virg


On 7/20/2016 2:24 PM, Skyflyr001--- via KRnet wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to help the family of my late friend and KR2 owner sell his
> airplane.  Due to his health issues he had not flown this aircraft in about  
> 10
> years.  If you'll google KR@ Dumbo you'll find a link to a good article
> about the original build of this airplane.
>
> Here's what i've sent a couple of others who are interested in this
> airplane.  It's a complete airplane but since it hasn't flown in awhile I'd
> consider it a project.
>
> My friend who owned this aircraft passed away and I'm helping them to  sell
>
> it.  After looking through the very detailed records I can  pass along the
> following information
>
> KR2 serial number  7616.  Completed Feb, 1, 1991.  Registered as  N90JC
> although  it looks like the registration expired in 2010 after new
> legislation
> required re-registration.
>
> Total time 193.0.  Last flown appears  to be 3-21-1997.
>
> Engine is a 2100 VW and it appears to produce  75hp.
>
> Empty weight is 608#
> Max GW is 1100#
> Cruise is 155mph  (5000msl  @2850 rpm on 3.6 gph.)
>
> fuel capacity is 13.5 gal with 12.5  useable.
>
> The aircraft was purchased from the builder for $12,500 in  April  1993.
>
>
> The airplane has always been hangared.  It is located at KPMU, Panola
> county airport, in Batesville MS.  It's about 50 miles south of Memphis,  TN.
>
> The family doesn't have a price in mind as they don't really know how to
> value it but they are interested in moving it.  I'm not personally
> knowledgeable about this series of homebuilts but I would guess that somewhere
> around 8-9K would be readily accepted.  Of course after inspecting the  
> aircraft
> you can be as aggressive as you'd like in an offer.
>
>
>
> I'm sure a reasonable offer will get you a nice KR2  See the  link  below.
>
>
>
> _DAVID  E. CARROLL, January 1993_
> (http://aerofoilengineering.com/KR/sportaviation/Kr93-1.HTM)
>
> If you have any questions please feel free to call me.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> Captain Jim  Gehringer
> FedEx MD-11 MEM
> Check Airman / Instructor Pilot
> ALPA  FOQA
> 901-493-2540
>
>
> In a message dated 7/14/2016 10:24:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> krnet at list.krnet.org writes:
>
> I'm not  sure how to contact the project owner of the kr2stretch project
> for  sale.  If it's not already sold, I'm interested in finding out more.
> Please contact me at meyerv at meyerandmalin dot com.
>
> Vincent  Meyer
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KR> Florida

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

I think that this should be for Joe Nunley, Virg


On 7/6/2016 8:05 AM, Richard Dechau via KRnet wrote:
> Virgil I moved to Fl last fall. I live in Bronson its 20 miles NW of Ocala.
> Im in NY right now but I will try and you a hand to get things rolling.
>
> Rick Dechau
>
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 11:17 PM, bjoenunley via KRnet  list.krnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Perfect location.  I need more time to finish my plane but I could drive a
>> car.
>>
>> ?I can do a
>> ?one day KR BBQ at my airpark in Green ?Cove Springs which is near
>> ?Jacksonville.  Thinking it needs to be after ?Oshkosh
>> Joe Nunley CW2 US Army RetiredBaker JROTC Instructor Baker Florida

KR> Florida

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

WOW ! VIRG


On 7/5/2016 4:51 PM, brian.kraut--- via KRnet wrote:
> I have threatening a southern KR gathering for years.  I don't have time
> to put together a formal gathering, but if there is interest I can do a
> one day KR BBQ at my airpark in Green Cove Springs which is near
> Jacksonville.  Thinking it needs to be after Oshkosh and August is
> pretty hot.  Camping would be welcome.  Thoughts?
>
> Brian Kraut

KR> Florida

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Who recently moved to Florida ? and where.
Virg Miami

KR> Dunellen

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Where, Address ? Virg

KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 165

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

On 6/24/2016 11:58 PM, don january via KRnet wrote:
> I just had to jump in and say I have a beautiful 1985 kr-2 that got it's AWC 
> with a VW and later I mounted a Corvair and it was a flop. Now it sit's and 
> wait's for the latest greatest engine to come along. "Bummer"
> 

How about a Single Rotor Mazda ? Virg

KR> "blast from the past"

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Check with Video BOB, Virg


On 6/20/2016 7:04 PM, Larry Flesner via KRnet wrote:
>
>
> This is what I have so far.  Can anyone add, correct, or have any
> earlier dates?  If anyone has the "old newsletter" disk and wants to
> research, please do.  I've made every Gathering, including the two in
> 98, since 1990 except the Corona Gathering, but my memory is not as good
> as it was when I started my KR 25 years ago. :-(
>
> Larry Flesner
>
> KR Gatherings  - year and location
>
> 1989 - Covington, Tenn.
> 1990 - Rough River, Kentucky
> 1991 ? Kentucky Dam State Park
> 1992 ?
> 1993 - Covington, Tennessee
> 1994 ? Columbia, Tennessee
> 1995 ? Columbia, Tennessee
> 1996 ? Pine Bluff, Arkansas
> 1997 ? Perry, Oklahoma
> 1998 - Perry, Oklahoma   Columbia, TN "East Coast Gathering"
> 1999 ? Lake Barkley, Kentucky
> 2000 ? Lake Barkley, Kentucky
> 2001 - Pine Bluff, Arkansas
> 2002 - Red Oak, Iowa
> 2003 - Red Oak, Iowa
> 2004 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
> 2005 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
> 2006 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
> 2007 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
> 2008 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
> 2009 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
> 2010 - Richmond, Kentucky
> 2011 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
> 2012 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
> 2013 - Mt.Vernon, Illinois
> 2014 - Corona, California
> 2015 - McMinnville, Oregon
>
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KR> Fuselage sides vertical?

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Simplify. Check out the advantages of vertical sides, Virg


On 5/31/2016 9:47 PM, brian.kraut--- via KRnet wrote:
> What happened to "build it to the plans" Virg?
>
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage sides vertical?
> From: "Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet" 
> Date: Tue, May 31, 2016 1:25 pm
> To: KRnet 
> Cc: "Virgil N. Salisbury" 
>
>  Vertical sides mean no banana boat. Good deal, Virg
>
>  On 5/31/2016 3:01 PM, Gary via KRnet wrote:
>>
>>
>> I am planning to widen the KR2S fuselage 4" with widest point at the 
>> shoulders. Any known gotchas if I also make the sides vertical instead of an 
>> inward taper at the bottom? Unable to get to the archives for a day or two.
>> Thanks
>>
>> Gary Wold

KR> Fuselage sides vertical?

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Vertical sides mean no banana boat. Good deal, Virg

On 5/31/2016 3:01 PM, Gary via KRnet wrote:
>
>
> I am planning to widen the KR2S fuselage 4" with widest point at the 
> shoulders. Any known gotchas if I also make the sides vertical instead of an 
> inward taper at the bottom? Unable to get to the archives for a day or two.
> Thanks
>
> Gary Wold
>
>  Original message 
> From: Global Solutions via KRnet 
> Date: 05/30/2016  7:49 PM  (GMT-06:00)
> To: KRnet 
> Cc: Global Solutions 
> Subject: KR> composite vacuum bagging?
>
>   What do you consider the best book on  vacuum bagging setups for dyi?
>
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KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Made it a lot easier to build as well didn't it, Virg


On 5/26/2016 7:47 PM, Pete Klapp via KRnet wrote:
> Larry Mine fuselage does not flare out at the top. My fuselage sides are 
> vertical and the angle between the inboard stub wings is 90 degrees, same as 
> the RV's.Pete
>

KR> Facet fuel pump flare?

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Craig, Why do I have to sign in to see KR stuff ? Virg


On 4/30/2016 5:54 PM, Craig Williams via KRnet wrote:
> Hope this link works.  I used a SS mud pan from Home Depot on my Smith.
>
> Craig.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1058479134173264=pcb.1279813942035991=3
>
>
>> On April 30, 2016 at 10:55 AM Paul Visk via KRnet 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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KR> KRnet Digest, Vol 4, Issue 98

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

I think that it was called DUMBO and from Marietta GA, Virg


On 4/21/2016 10:07 AM, Glenn Martin via KRnet wrote:
> If you haven't read about Randy Hebrons KR1 , do so. He used spoilers
> instead of ailerons and full length flaps on his KR1. A fantastic build.
>
> Glenn Martin. Biloxi, MS
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>> Here is a link to Sport Aviation KR articles. Some excellent history found
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>> http://aerofoilengineering.com/KR/sportaviation/kr_SA.htm
>>
>> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
>> Stevens Point, WI (soon to be Clearwater, FL)

KR> Wing Extensions

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

RR says not to extend the wings. Do the engineering before doing so, 
Virg


On 3/15/2016 11:43 PM, Steve Goosic via KRnet wrote:
>I'm new to the KR scene, having acquired a stock KR2 a few months back, 
> that about 90% completed. I'm looking to make a few modifications, such as 
> increasing the length of the horizontal stabilizer for better pitch control 
> and extending the wings to decrease the stall speed, to meet the Sports Pilot 
> requirements.  I've read comments in the archives about extending the wings, 
> but I haven't found any specific information on the correct way of doing 
> this. Since my wings are already built (RAF48), do I extend both wing spars 
> or is it possible to add additional foam to the existing wing end and shape 
> to form?  Also, how much further do the wings need to be extended? I'd be 
> interested in hearing from any of you who know or have done this.
> Steve
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KR> KR2 "Dunbo"

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

David was from Marietta. He had a different wing ( GAW? )
and spoilers instead of AILERONS. See the  Newsletters,
Virg


n 3/11/2016 3:05 PM, Skyflyr001--- via KRnet wrote:
> Dumbo is a KR@ built by David Carroll in Georgia. The serial number is
> 7616.
>
> The most current owner has passed away and I now have access to the
> aircraft, logbooks and other records.  I am trying to help the family sell  
> this
> aircraft.
>
> I'd like to know a valuation for this airplane and to hear from interested
> parties.
>
> Please e-mail me at _Skyflyr001 at aol.com_ (mailto:Skyflyr001 at aol.com)  if
> you can help.
>
> Thanks
> Jim
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KR> LANDING GEAR

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Check the Archives. One was from a Chevy Astro, Virg


On 2/22/2016 11:17 AM, ol' weirdo via KRnet wrote:
> Has anyone used the "plastic" spring from a Pontiac van for landing gear? I
> know it is pretty heavy to start with. Can it be cut?
>
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KR> INTAKE MANIFOLD VACUUM

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Auto air pumps work in reverse. Just change the input to
get vacuum, Virg


On 1/25/2016 4:39 PM, ol' weirdo via KRnet wrote:
> Don't you fellows remember when the windshield wipers were driven by
> a vacuum motor connected to the intake manifold? Open the throttle and go
> blind. Not a good idea for an airplane.
>
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KR> Manifold vacuum

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Put the draggy venturi tube inside the cowl.
Warm air exiting the cowl will keep it from
icing, Virg


On 1/25/2016 11:16 AM, Nerobro via KRnet wrote:
> <--- not a pilot...Yet...
>
> Manifold vacuum isn't something I'd depend on.  As engine load goes up,
> manifold vacuum goes down.  I'd worry about instruments getting good vacuum
> on climbout.  If the engine cuts out, your manifold vacuum will drop as
> well (even if the prop windmills).  Using exhaust to produce vacuum is
> interesting too, I bet it would work, but I doubt you'd get good vacuum
> with the engine windmilling.
>
> I suppose i'm making the argument for a vacuum horn, or an engine driven
> vacuum pump, and am assuming the engine will windmill.
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Jeff Scott via KRnet  list.krnet.org>
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KR> Tail Addition

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Why not just reduce the elevator span or chord ? Virg


On 1/11/2016 5:21 PM, bjoenunley via KRnet wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone see a problem with adding the white portion in the picture to the 
> tail for more stability?
>
>
> Joe Nunley CW2 US Army RetiredBaker JROTC Instructor Baker Florida
>
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KR> Converting KR-2 to KR-2S

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Buy the KR-2S supplement and build a new fuse, Virg



On 1/4/2016 3:00 PM, Sid Wood via KRnet wrote:
> I have a flying, airworthy, tri-gear KR-2.  What would be the practical
> considerations for converting the KR-2 to a KR-2S?  Or would it be
> practical to consider making the conversion?
> My purpose would be to get more room in the cockpit and more load
> carrying capacity.
>
> Sid Wood
> Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
> Mechanicsville, MD, USA
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KR> Location

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Sounds great. THX, Virg


On 12/10/2015 10:06 PM, Joe Nunley via KRnet wrote:
> Baker Florida is between Mobile Alabama and Tallahassee in the panhandle of
> Florida about 10 miles North West of the big town of Crestview Florida.
> Baker has one stop light and 400 kids at the high school.  We also have a
> 3000 foot grass strip.
> Joe
>
> -Where is Baker, Fl ? Virg, Miami-
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Virgil N. Salisbury via KRnet <
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>>
>>  Where is Baker, Fl ? Virg, Miami
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KR> Not pilots, but have a structural question for a KR2S

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

A paint job  every two years  would help, Virg



On 9/7/2015 11:38 AM, billjacobs386 at yahoo.com via KRnet wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Not off hand, but someone may know of a source. I have seen KR,s that 
> have been left outside to the point where they are only wall hanging 
> material. Maybe someone reading this knows??Good luck
> Bill Jacobs
>
>
> -- Original message--From: inquire via KRnet Date: Sun, Sep 6, 2015 
> 9:49 PMTo: krnet at list.krnet.org;Cc: inquire;Subject:Re: KR> Not pilots, 
> but have a structural question for a KR2SDo you know where one like this 
> could be found?Stephen Teel -Original Message-From: billjacobs386 at 
> yahoo.com via KRnet To: krnet Cc: billjacobs386 Sent: Sun, Sep 6, 2015 5:50 
> pmSubject: Re: KR> Not pilots, but have a structural question for a KR2S
> Maybe trade it for a non functioning look a like. Aka. Standin.Bill 
> Jacobs-- Original message--From: inquire via KRnet Date:Sun, Sep 6, 
> 2015 6:43 PMTo: krnet at list.krnet.org;Cc: inquire;Subject:Re: KR> 
> Notpilots, but have a structural question for a KR2SThanks Tony.  The 
> mounting willhave to be outdoors, what can we do to protect the composite, 
> and how long untilthe damage starts to go beyond easily reparable in this 
> north Texas climate? Wewill do no irreparable damage.  -Original 
> Message-From: Tony King viaKRnet To: KRnet Cc: 
Tony King Sent: Sun, Sep 6, 2015 5:25 pmSubject: Re: KR> Notpilots, but have a 
structural question for a KR2SIf you came up with a structurethat had the 
aircraft still sitting onitslanding gear (or with brackets of somesort attached 
to the axles)you'dhave to expect it wouldn't do any damage to theaircraft.  
Anarrangementthat somehow attached to the upper landing gear 
mountpointsprobably wouldwork OK as well, but would be much harder to 
implementwithoutat leastminor (repairable) damage.You could pote ntially hang 
it fromthewing attach fittings and tailwheelas well.  There's a gap between 
theouterwing panel and the centre section(which may have a gap seal over it) 
whereacable could be attached.  Thefront WAFs are probably pretty close to 
thecentreof gravity though, so asandbag somewhere down the back might be a 
goodidea inthat case.Also keep in mind that the composite construction 
doesn'tage well ifit'ssituated outdoors.Cheers,TonyOn 7 September 2015at 07:11, 
inquire via KRnetwrote:>>>
> Helloto All,>> Per the subject line, we are not pilots, and untilrecently 
> hadno> knowledge of this beautiful plane. We do however, have 
> anappreciationfor> beautiful, cool design in anything. Don't know if 
> oursituation/questionis> unique for any of you or not.>> We have acquired, we 
> weretold,   a complete KR2S built by Kenneth> Rand(no engine). We would 
> love todisplaythis piece of art and for it to> attract attention to, and 
> entry into,ourartist's co-op in an historic> dist rict of McKinney, TX. We 
> will do NOdamagethis plane in any display> decision that we reach. We would 
> like todisplay itas one would a model> plane on a desk or shelf, and so that 
> no onecould sitor place their> children on it.> We would, of course, display 
> a historyofthe plane to educate visitors.> Our question is: are there 
> structurallysafeways to mount this plane in> that manner?>> Your response is 
> eagerlyawaitedby us both,> Stephen & Jeannette Teel,> 1408 
> MarigoldDrive>214-797-1729>>_
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KR> The first KR?

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Fred Kellers K R I was the  first Plans Built KR, Virg


On 9/3/2015 4:54 PM, colin hales via KRnet wrote:
> Can anyone fill in the history? I found Fred Keller's Kr1 hanging from the 
> roof of the Alaskan Transport Museum. It says it was the first completed Kr 
> in July 1973? Did he beat Ken Rand then to finish his prototype? Enjoy the 
> gathering.Colin.  
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KR> check the Gathering web page

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Wasn't the OKLAHOMA one at PERRY ? Virg

On 1/15/2012 8:50 PM, Larry Flesner wrote:
>
>
> The Gathering web page has been updated with the official date of the
> 2012 Gathering and up to date financial statement.
>
> www.krgathering.org
>
> Thanks to Bob Lee for maintaining the site...
>
> Larry Flesner
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KR> old photos

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Tweety Bird was Jerry Rosser, Virg


On 1/14/2012 10:30 PM, Dan Heath wrote:
> Larry,
>
> Would that be Tweetie Bird?
>
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
> See you at the 2012 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il – MVN – 40th
> Anniversary
> There is a time for building and it is over.
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> His name was Norman Negus
> and he flew a bright canary yellow KR2.
>
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KR> Fly In

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Sport Aviation Association, Rudy Frasca feild, Virg


On 1/14/2012 5:50 PM, Dan Heath wrote:
> Does anyone remember the fly-in that Paul Poberezney was involved with for a
> few years after his retirement?  I understand that it has continued on after
> he stopped being active in it.  I emailed the person in charge, last year,
> but can't remember who it was and have not heard anymore from them.
>
>
>
> Does anyone know when it usually is held, or how to get in contact with
> them?
>
>
>
> See N64KR at  http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
> the pics
>
> See you at the 2012 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN - 40th
> Anniversary
>
> There is a time for building and it is over.
>
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
>
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KR> No KR

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Fly to a Gathering with a KR, see who has more fun, Virg


On 1/9/2012 6:45 PM, Barrett wrote:
> Well guys, just wanted to say goodbye. After weighing all the options I have
> decided to purchase a Piper Cherokee 180. I should say that I HAVE purchased
> it. The deal was too good to pass up, a real cream-puff. ~3000 hours total
> on the airframe and 0 hours on a fresh rebuild and needs nothing but some
> wax on the paint. I will still probably build a KR on down the line a little
> bit, but for now I'm just going to concentrate on flying the Cherokee.
> It's been nice and I'll be back later on, and I will keep up with everyone
> online.
> Good Luck to everyone and Clear Skies!
> -Barrett
>
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KR> fuel tank

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

On 1/7/2012 8:20 PM, Margaret Davis wrote:
> hi guys. i hope everyone had a nice x-mass..im looking at a fuel tank from 
> summit racing for the kr-2, its a fuel cell with roll over vent-16 
> gal-plastic-dual outlet-2inch sump-aircraft foam-with a fuel gauge  it looked 
> like a good way to go to me  any input  thanks  brad davis
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How much does it weigh, Virg

KR> N86DK..... Gear & Foam-repaid

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

On 1/7/2012 9:09 PM, Dave_A wrote:

> At this point, I plan on taking the board's advice, and doing a
> core-replacement patch with solid sheets rather than a fill-patch with
> Great Stuff
>
> I just need to know what type of foam to use, or if it makes a
> difference (the pink wall-insulation sheets are the first thing that
> came to my mind as a source of foam - and there's a Home Depot right by
> where I'm working on the plane)
>
Look for Polyureathane foam, 2# /Sq ft. May be green, Virg

KR> Fwd: Re: Something wrong with KRNET

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Glenn, Getting ALL of your posts, Virg  


On 1/7/2012 9:26 AM, Glenn Martin wrote:
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>  Original Message 
> Subject:  Re: Something wrong with KRNET
> Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 08:19:30 -0600
> From: Glenn Martin
> To:   KRnet
>
>
>
> On 1/7/2012 8:16 AM, Glenn Martin wrote:
>>   On 1/7/2012 8:13 AM, Glenn Martin wrote:
>>>   Why is it that half the posts I send to KRNet I have to send 2 or 3
>>>   times to get them to post, and half the things I see referred to in
>>>   other peoples posts I never get (I do not use a spam filter at all).
>>   2nd time sent
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KR> Going to FL tomorrow, get to see the plane for the first time in person...

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Send the Seril # to Steve Bennet. He may be able to pinpoint the info
for you,Virg


On 1/5/2012 1:59 AM, Dave_A wrote:
> Right now, N86DK is in a UHaul shed, where I had the last owner put it
> while I was in Afganhistan
>
> Photos from the E-Bay auction show a complete, once-flying/FAA
> registered KR2 taildragger, missing only avionics/instruments and a few
> switches, and in need of some paint touch-up. Built in 1986, in from
> what I can tell is 'stock' configuration (the plane didn't come with
> it's plans,  and the builder/last man to fly it is dead (old age, not
> plane related), so I'm not entirely sure)
>
> I'm on my way to FL tomorrow (having come home on R leave) to spend
> the next 5 days working on the plane
>
> I'll probably have a few good photos, and some questions (how to ID the
> make of VW engine, and such) coming up
>
> - Dave
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KR> Rotary Anyone?

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

E Shafts do not break, Virg


On 12/30/2011 3:10 PM, Barrett wrote:
> As I was going back thru my back issues of KITPLANE magazine (Feb 2011), I
> saw another article on the rotary engine. It got me thinking, so I am doing
> a bit of research on the engine right now and was wondering if anyone on the
> list had any experience with these? The one website (
> http://www.rotaryeng.net/index.html )I went to has a TON of information on
> it and I'm currently wading thru all of that.
> Thanks, Barrett SLC, UT
>
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KR> flying stories ?

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

How about a Single rotor Rotary ~100 Hp, Virg


On 12/27/2011 5:19 PM, cgardn628 wrote:
> Mark,
>
> Glad to hear you are okay after the scary #3 crankshaft incident!
>
> Maybe you'll reconsider the Type 4 VW that you were originally going to use
> in your KR2S.
>
> I also had a broken pushrod this year in my 2180 VW due a faulty end cap
> shattering in flight. Flying on 3 cylinders can be interesting as well but
> not as scary as a dead engine.
>
> Best Wishes for the holidays and hope to see everyone in the KR community at
> Oshkosh next year.
>
> Regards
>
> Chris Gardiner
> KR2S C-GKRZ
>

KR> Fiberglass question

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

On 12/5/2011 2:08 PM, Glenn Martin wrote:
> Hey all. I have removed the under the stub wing, between the spars
> trash. I want to know your suggestions on what the best way to
> fiberglass the bottom between the spars is. (Ive already looked at ML's
> spar covering) What I am concerned about is if the new glass will
> securely bond with the existing glass at the spar caps, and if anyone
> feels the joint might separate. Thanks

use the same epoxy as the original  and you should be O K, Virg

KR> Behind panel clearance

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Recess the fuel tank, Virg

On 12/5/2011 9:03 AM, Teate, Stephen wrote:
>
>
> "How likely is it that I'll be able to install a 9" deep instrument"
>
> Just because there may not be enough room behind the panel doesn't mean you 
> can't space it out in front of the panel.
>
> Stephen Teate
> Paradise, Texas
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KR> comm antenna 1/4 wave length

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Velocity Factor ? Virg


On 10/20/2011 4:18 PM, Pete Klapp wrote:
>
>
> Mark /Netters
>
> On your web site, you list the length of each leg of your dipole at 20.3". I 
> went to an online site that will calculate the needed length ,
> www.onlineconversion.com/frequency_wavelength.htm. Their conversion formula 
> gives a length range of 25.0" at 118 MHz to 22.0" at 134 MHz. The range of 
> frequencies in the Cleveland-Akron-Canton area run from 118 to 135 MHz. An 
> average / mid range would be about 126 MHz which would be a 1/4 wavelength 
> antenna of 23.4inches. How did you arrive at 20.3"? Did I make a mistake 
> somewhere?
>
> Has anyone else used another method or published table to get the antenna 
> length?
>
> Any info greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Pete Klapp, building KR-2S N729PK'
> Canton, OH
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KR> comm antenna 1/4 wave length

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Velocity Factor ? Virg


On 10/20/2011 4:18 PM, Pete Klapp wrote:
>
>
> Mark /Netters
>
> On your web site, you list the length of each leg of your dipole at 20.3". I 
> went to an online site that will calculate the needed length ,
> www.onlineconversion.com/frequency_wavelength.htm. Their conversion formula 
> gives a length range of 25.0" at 118 MHz to 22.0" at 134 MHz. The range of 
> frequencies in the Cleveland-Akron-Canton area run from 118 to 135 MHz. An 
> average / mid range would be about 126 MHz which would be a 1/4 wavelength 
> antenna of 23.4inches. How did you arrive at 20.3"? Did I make a mistake 
> somewhere?
>
> Has anyone else used another method or published table to get the antenna 
> length?
>
> Any info greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Pete Klapp, building KR-2S N729PK'
> Canton, OH
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KR> Wingspan

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

You have a great single place aircraft, Virg

On 10/11/2011 9:51 AM, Teate, Stephen wrote:
> "The reason I ask is I think to get the
> useful load for my 250lb frame I need to up the wing span to 27 feet.  I 
> would do this by adding 36 inches
> to the stub wings."
>
> Yea Craig I had the same concerns. I am 6'-5" and liquid cooled so a stock KR 
> was out of the question from day one. I went with Diehl outer skins and outer 
> spars built to plans. My stub wing was increased a foot on both sides. I used 
> the same spar cap dimensions with more verticals and the addition of a 1/4" 
> plywood laminated to the aft side of the main spar. That won't get me to 27 
> feet but it will help offset the additional weight that I signed up for.
>
> Stephen Teate
> Paradise, Texas
>

KR> Wingspan

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Ask Navaro sp.RR said do not extend the wings on the KR-2, Virg

On 10/10/2011 6:51 PM, Craig Williams wrote:
> I have been reading in the archives about the RAF48 wing span and loading.  I 
> see that Garry Morgan's KR2SS had
> a span of 27 feet.  Was wondering if anyone stateside had gone this big.  The 
> reason I ask is I think to get the
> useful load for my 250lb frame I need to up the wing span to 27 feet.  I 
> would do this by adding 36 inches
> to the stub wings.
>
> Craig
> www,kr2seafury.com
>
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KR> Landing gear and brakes.

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Is  there a POSITIVE lock down system for the retracts ? Virg


On 9/28/2011 10:21 PM, Brian Coss wrote:
> Thanks for the info on the retracts,Dave, much appreciated,leaning to the
> fixed gear is gettin more interesting, a used, proven, fixed type for krs
> would be nice,if I can find one?
> On Sep 28, 2011 9:02 PM, "Prototype Mech"  wrote:
>> Hello Brian,
>> I have a Plans Built KR2 with retracts too.  The retracts arn't bad.  The
>

KR> Re:6

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

On 9/30/2011 8:50 PM, Chelsea Berryman wrote:
>
>
>   GO AWAY, Virg
>
>
> 
> From: Neal
> To: jeffjones...@yahoo.com; jnorri...@yahoo.com; lnico...@aol.com;
> joe2387...@gmail.com; hmst...@yahoo.com; jhorn...@suddenlink.net;
> jwise...@whiteallen.dealercrm.com; kenbjo...@cinci.rr.com; kr...@mylist.net
> Sent: Fri, September 30, 2011 3:28:23 PM
> Subject: KR>  Re:6
>
> Aloha State,
> http://teste.colegiovascodagama.net/index101ww--.php?jhotmailID=51py
>
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KR> Re:6

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

GO  AWAY, Virg

On 9/30/2011 4:28 PM, Neal wrote:
> Aloha State, 
> http://teste.colegiovascodagama.net/index101ww--.php?jhotmailID=51py
>
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KR> Engine Failure on Take OFF.

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Good reason to lift the Cowl top during preflight, Virg


On 9/26/2011 10:22 AM, Brad Stone wrote:
> Hate to hear you buggered your plane but so glad your ok.
> Brad Stone
> KR2S
> "Sky Pig"
> Madison, Ms.
>
> From: Phil Matheson
> To: 'KRnet'
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 5:26 AM
> Subject: KR>  Engine Failure on Take OFF.
>
> Well, it can happen to you.
>
> Last night 1730 at 500 ft Engine stopped dead. Lack of landing spots. Had to
> make 150' turn to safe ground.
>
> Check, tanks pumps NO start, but engine wind milling. A bit hot and ran out
> of field, had to lift over fence, then channel, stall, O S*#T - ground.
> Bugger.
>
> Walked away. KR home in my workshop.
>
> Damage,
> Prop, nose wheel collapse, L main collapse. Under inner wing whole from
> wheel. But main leg undamaged, the main bolts Sheared OFF, as did the nose
> wheel to fire wall bolts. NO cowl damage only paint. Engine mount bent.
>
> FOUND the cause this morning, the coil lead came out of the distributor Cap.
> No wonder it would not start.
> Did I seem Mark Jones make a cover or his dist. cap, Should listen to Mark.
>
> Impact point Google Earth  145 32.527 E 35 39.681S only 400m from my home.
>
> Phil Matheson
>
> VH PKR.  KR2.
>

KR> 40th Anniversary

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

On 9/24/2011 6:28 PM, Brian Coss wrote:
> hello, does anybody know a good procedure for startup of a 2180 cc rev
> master? it hasn't ran in about 10 years, it's ben in a heated garage the
> whole time, the owner turnd the prop over every so often, thank you !
> On Sep 23, 2011 11:47 PM,  wrote:
>>> I make a solemn vow that once the Black Bird is flying again, I will do
>>> NOTHING that will put her on the ground again other than safety issues
>> that
>>> are beyond my control.
>>
>   Turn over by hand, Drain,change..  oil, Change filter.  Turn over 
> W/starter
and get oil pressure.  get fresh gas, drain sump. Clear prop ! Start.
Warm up oil. shut down. CHECK everything , Virg

KR> hi there KR

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

BACK OFF, VIRG

On 9/20/2011 9:30 PM, Mac McConnell-Wood wrote:
> hello KR with this program your finally able to be in control of your life 
> http://t.co/TvuzwfbS I really never thought this was going be this good see ya
>
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KR> About Spruce

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Sitka Spruce is recommended. Where are you ?  Virg


On 9/5/2011 4:02 AM, omotosho olalekan wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> Now it time to get hands dirty, please I will like to ask what time of spruce 
> are used in constructing KR2S, the reason is that am trying to search spruce 
> locally in order to minimize cost of importation. I would be very great full 
> to hear from you all.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
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KR> plywood question

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Birch or Mahogany ,3/32, if I remember right, Virg


On 8/26/2011 12:18 AM, bdazzca...@aol.com wrote:
> Hey Netters,
>
>  I forgot what kind of plywood we use around the  nose section? Let me
> know.
>
>
>
> David swanson
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KR> Jabiru 3300

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Get some taildragger time from an older instructor. Proper speed 
control will
greatly shorten your landing distance, Virg


On 8/26/2011 10:44 AM, pe...@heroic.co.uk wrote:
> Risk aversion
>
> Regardless of the number of Corv / O320 examples flying, I think I understand 
> the issue, the J3300 will allow the kr2 to dramatically exceed it's stated 
> Vne, so LAA will have to treat the resulting aircraft as a new type with all 
> the attendant design analysis.
>
> I would expect concerns about moving surface attachments and engine mount 
> bulkhead design.
>
> Peter back to your original email, I am uncertain if the extra power will 
> make a kr2s more farm strip usable, as the critical issue imho is landing 
> distance. Most US krs fly off longer strips so it may be useful to contact 
> Willy Wilson who did the Test flights on Ken Aitchinkons kr
>
> Pete

KR> Re: KR2S Plans lacking detail

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

I bought that. $20.00, Virg


On 8/15/2011 12:18 PM, Charles Brown wrote:
> You think those plans are lacking try the one's I bought in 1973 for the KR 1 
> four sheets and a green book telling you how to build it.
>
>
>
> 
> From: Mark Langford
> To: KRnet
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 4:19 AM
> Subject: Re: KR>  Re: KR2S Plans lacking detail
>
> Tim Caughron wrote:
>
>>> Do I just guesstimate how wide the
> fuselage is supposed to be at the tail section, or am I missing that
> critical measurement. Do I understand that the plans have no procedure for
> tri-gear, and that the details for those will be included in the install
> instructions of the gear themselves?<<
>
> You're not the first guy to wonder these things, and you won't be the last.
> A lot of these planes have been built and flown, despite the poor state of
> the plans.  Those plans is the reason I built my website, the first one
> devoted to KR construction.   If you look hard enough in the plans notebook
> for the KR2, you'll find mention of joining the fuselage sides up to the
> vertical stabilizer's aft spar to finish forming the boat.  This is the
> width of the fuselage back at the place where the rudder fastens (it's a
> tapered piece that's something like 2" wide on average).  Taper the spar
> first, and leave the plywood overlapping a bit to provide a gap seal for the
> rudder.  So use the farthest aft measurement that's given for a cross member
> as your last known point, and then the tailpiece, and the other cross pieces
> are just cut to fit.  I'd give better directions, but I'm at work and the
> plans are at home.
>
> As for tri-gear, that fits under the same heading as a lot of things...you
> don't get the one-sheet plans for it unless you bought the optional parts
> themselves from Rand Robinson.  Diehl sold most of the nose gear, and his
> instructions are online at
> http://www.diehlaero.com/NOSE%20GEAR%20INSTRUCTIONS.pdf .  I think Steve
> ?Glover at NVAero is now selling that gear.  I'll let him clarify.
>
> There's a lot of guesswork building a KR from those plans, so better get
> used to it now...
>
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> website www.n56ml.com
>
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KR> Plans lacking details

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Build sides. bBend together and place crosspieces as shown.
tThe other dimensions will be measured after bending and
fill in, Virg


On 8/14/2011 2:52 AM, Tim Caughron wrote:
> Hi guys, sitting down tonight to plan the layout of my fuselage. Now, I love
> logic puzzles, and am pretty good at them, but this is ridiculous. I'm
> hoping someone can take a minute and check to see that I have a full
> inventory of plans here. I purchased plans KR-2 #9809/KR-2S #1196 in January
> 2005 from RR. Maybe I'm crazy, or just need to make up some dimensions, but
> I cannot figure out some of these.
>
>
>
> For instance, looking at the Horizontal Framing Layout on Dwg A for the 2S,
> it only gives me the width locations of Stn's A, D, and G. It shows the max
> width between F&  G and straight from Stn I. Nowhere does it give me the
> width of Stn O, or any other location that would allow me to figure the
> correct dimensions. I looked through every page in my manual, and the best
> it does is tell me to refer to the plans for all the correct dimension of
> the layout???
>
>
>
> Can anyone tell me if there is a dimension sheet for all the called out
> parts on the drawings? Seems there should be a reference to say Station A -
> O are xx inches in length, or there should be some key dimensions to allow
> one to figure those out. At the very least, the plans should tell me how
> wide the aft end of the longerons should be dimensioned - come on!
>
>
>
> Another cause for concern with my plan set is I plan to build a tri-gear
> version. Nowhere on any drawing is tri-gear addressed, and the manual deals
> only with tail-gear details - no mention of tri-gear period! I'm sure the
> situation is worse the farther from simply laying out the fuselage frame I
> will get. Am I missing something here?
>
>
>
> Here is an inventory of the plans I received with this set, if someone
> notices something missing, please let me know so I can try to contact
> Jeanette and get them, thanks:
>
>
>
> KR-2 Drawings
>
>  Dwg 1 - Fuselage Assy.
>
>  Dwg 2 - Inboard / Outboard Wing Template, Flap Hardware&
> Assembly
>
>  Firewall Template - Full Scale
>
>
>
> KR-2S Drawings
>
>  Dwg A - Framing Layouts
>
>  Dwg B - Various Details
>
>  Firewall Template - Full Scale
>
>  W1 - Spar Details
>
>  W2 -  Wing Details
>
>  W3 - Airfoils
>
>
>
> Thanks to anyone that can help me. Maybe I shouldn't be so concerned with
> every detail, but this seems like an awful lot of guessing.
>
>
>
> Tim Caughron
>
> caugh...@bak.rr.com
>
>
>
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KR> hello kr

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On 8/2/2011 11:33 PM, joseph lamberson wrote:
> hey kr check it out http://nbcllnews.com/?article=924381
>
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Not another one, Virg

KR> Firewall Covering

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Fibrefrax and SS. The kit should be available from AS or Wicks, Virg


On 7/24/2011 4:24 PM, Chris corbine wrote:
> Netters,
>
> What is the best method to cover the firewall plywood and make it fireproof?  
> I was thinking I'd use sheet metal (about 22 gauge SS) But I do not know of a 
> good adhesive.  I was wondering if there are any other good ideas out there.. 
>  All inputs are welcome...
>
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Corbine
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KR> hey kr

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On 7/16/2011 6:40 AM, joseph lamberson wrote:
> hey kr I now have good credit wherever i go 
> http://www.nbc10onlines.com/finance/?articles=38984
>
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You been PHISHED, Virg

KR> NVaero prefab parts

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Problems with the cowl etc ?
Steve doing well, let him run with it, Virg


On 7/7/2011 3:50 PM, Ed wrote:
> anybody know where I can actually see what their KR2S canopy,turtledeck and
> O-200 cowl look like, I have read that they are having a lot of problems and
> hope that they can make it.
>
>
>
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KR> EAA survey

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

On 7/7/2011 8:40 AM, Glenn Martin wrote:
> On 7/6/2011 2:38 PM, Bob Glidden wrote:
>> I think it is funny that the founder of EAA Paul P. started SAA a few years
>> back because he said EAA was becoming to commercialized.
> What is the SAA?
>
SPORT AVIATION ASSOCIATION, Virg

KR> BMW engine v VW and Corvair

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Original KR-1 was 36 HP VW, 145 MPH, Virg


On 7/4/2011 6:11 PM, phillip matheson wrote:
> What is the actual HP at 3400 RPM (prop)? Will it turn out to be 40HP and
> 145 lbs in weight??...or 3.6 lbs/HP.  Will 40HP satisfy you in a KR1?
> 
>
> This has always been my question when using car engines in aircraft. Take my
> VW type 4. It has a gear reduction and the engine RPM reaches 4000 = 100 HP
>
> If you check the Corvair link  http://carnut.com/specs/gen/vair60.html It
> states the RPM required to reach 110 HP or more is 4000 to 4500.
> The corvair is of course 6 cylinder, but till only 110 hp or so depending on
> which engine you are using, so if you guys are less than that , how do you
> know what the HP is?
>
>
> http://carnut.com/specs/gen/vair60.html
>
>
> Phil Matheson
> SAAA Ch 37
> http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/

KR> poll on revival of McCulloch 4318 engines .

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Try a one rotor Mazda. Stack as many as you want for more power, up to 
six Virg


On 6/12/2011 11:37 AM, Charles Smiith wrote:
> Count me in.  My main interest in in developing affordable aircraft and at 
> the core of that interest is an affordable reliable power plant, the vast 
> roadblock to cheap everyman?s flying now.   One of my dreams is a lightweight 
> ?stackable? radial using existing auto parts.
> Charles Smith
> 850-547-2045
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KR> wing tip slop

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

I  think that sloppy bolt holes would cause this condition.
Why have ANY slop ? Virg
>
>
> I presume that some vertical play is necessary and a result of being able to
> fit the wing bolts, but how much is too much? Is there a spec? Couldn't see
> one in the one manual which came with my two 'planes . Would appreciate
> advice 
>
>
>
> And if I have to reduce the play, does anyone have any recommendations
> please
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Martin
>
>
>
>
>
> Martin Pearce
>
> - KR2 with Subaru EA81 + KR2 S with GMH Saturn
>
> - Both in my garage, neither registered or flying in Au ---yet!
>
> rocketdri...@optusnet.com.au
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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KR> Why So Much White Paint?

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

On person put his wings in an old VW. Left it out in the sun for a 
couple of days.
Good post cure, Virg


On 5/3/2011 11:00 AM, Fred Johnson wrote:
> What type of foam is there that won't off gas at elevated temperatures? I
> believe even Divinycell and the like will off gas won't they?
>
>
>
> Fred Johnson
> Reno, NV
>
>
> Langford wrote:
>
> I'm guessing the only sure-fire cure is to use a
> different kind of foam.
>
>
>
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KR> Why So Much White Paint?

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Foam and glass get too hot with colors, Virg


On 5/2/2011 8:18 PM, Chris corbine wrote:
> All,
>
> I'm quite new to this KR net and owning a KR thing and I am sure you all have
> had this talk before but I am interested it hearing everyone's side of it. Why
> does almost everyone paint them white?  I have noticed, generally speaking,
> aircraft are mostly white.  Is this primarily to maximize heat reflection?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
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KR> Photo request (90 Degree Fuse Sides)

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Sure saves a lot of compound angles in the wood. Glue up es easier, Virg



On 5/2/2011 10:46 AM, sean duggan wrote:
> I am at the point where I need to decide if I am going the banana boat route 
> or
> the square fuselage route. I've done my research on it here in the archives 
> and
> I've seen a few of the current builders websites that have done the square
> fuselage. I'm pretty much sold on the idea, the only thing holding me back is
> aesthetics.
>
>
> Does anyone have photos of a completed KR with square sides? I'd like to see 
> if
> or how it changes the final appearance of the airplane. The build log photos
> I've seen are great but I'd like to see the finished product if I could.
>
> Thanks,
>
>  Sean Duggan
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KR> Type 4 Parts and Other Things Available

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

>>> of.
>>>
>>> I'm in Kenora, Ontario, Canada.
>>>
>>> I also have a Mazda 13B Wankel and a 3 cyl Firefly engine.  Anyone
>>> interested in those?
>>>
>
What year 13b? Virg
>

KR> Kr1 wood, castings kits and plexi bubble?

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

On 4/15/2011 6:33 AM, Neil Hochstedler wrote:
> Hi,
> My name is Neil Hochstedler and I'm new to the KR list. My family is
> dealing with my father's estate and we've found what I believe are
> the plexiglass bubble, wood and castings kits for a KR1.
>
>
>
> So, we have a few questions, including:  Are these parts indeed for a
> KR1? What are they? Are they still useful to anyone, and if so, whom?
> etc, etc. Any comments, information  and opinions would be very welcome.
>
> I can also be reached by email at nei...@innevi.com and at 802.685.3129.
>
> Thanks for your time,
> Neil
>
>   The Spring Bar for the 2 landing gear is longer than the 1. If there 
are three   
Hinge castings then it is a 2, Virg

KR> three point / full stall

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Yes, It is all relative.  Relative wind, Virg



On 4/10/2011 11:22 AM, Dennis Cook wrote:
> At slower landing speeds you probably have a fair amount of sink rate ...
> making your actual AOA a few more degrees.
>
> DC
> Bothell, WA
>
>
>
>

KR> RE: Firewall attachment

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

I think that the 2S had 4" added  in front of the forward spar as well, 
Virg


On 4/6/2011 8:57 AM, stef...@kpnmail.nl wrote:
> Thanks,
> We will build the fwd deck removable so that should not a problem. But what 
> is the differents between the 2 and the -2S. We are building a -2 with the -S 
> tail and stab. So wat need I to do in the front of the Fusselage. Prob some 
> pics will help.
> Thanks
>
> Stef den Boer
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>

KR> Re: Tri gear tail first on runway.

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Full stall requires ~13 Degrees Angle of Attack. What is your AOA
sitting on the ground ? If it is less than~13 Degrees, Then full stall 
is NOT
possible. As Larry says" you are at the SLOWEST A/S possible
for landing ", Virg

On 4/6/2011 4:37 AM, phillip matheson wrote:
> Very true statement Larry. I have slammed my tail on the runway more than
> once and the tie down ring on my tail bears the wear to attest to the fact.
> ---
>
> Strange.
>
> I have 335 hours on my KR2 tricycle, and NEVER hit the tail.
>
> I can stall onto the runway, or drop the mains on the runway at 35 to 40
> kts.
>
> Phil Matheson
> SAAA Ch 37
> http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/
>
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KR> Exfoliation

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

BOESHIELD (Boeing product) or CRC MAY prevent this, Virg


On 3/28/2011 12:35 AM, Martin Pearce wrote:
> Just a heads up really for anyone on the list flying an older KR2 ... I have
> a recently imported 30 yr old aircraft and had a condition report done on
> Friday. This is where a qualified aircraft engineer comes to have a look as
> part of the re registration process .
>
>
>
> He found three instances of exfoliation corrosion, two on the flap
> attachments at the base of the fuselage (one on each side) and one on the
> elevator trim horn.
>
>
>
> Although I hadn't seen the flap attachment brackets, when It was pointed out
> to me, it was obvious, with the aluminium crush plate peeled open in layers,
> the layers pinched together by the bolts ..
>
>
>
> The scary one was the trim cable attachment. This just looked like a
> slightly rusty clevis on the cable. The corrosion on the horn was mostly
> hidden. Once I had dismantled the connection, I gently scraped the control
> horn with a screw driver, and the aluminium just peeled back in layers under
> where the clevis had been sitting and, in the line of the cable, the
> material just crumbled away leaving the pin (if it had still been in place)
> free to pull out!  There are a couple of pictures of the elevator horn here
> ...

KR> epoxy primer

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Use unwaxed paper cups, Virg



On 3/26/2011 5:06 PM, phillip matheson wrote:
> This stuff will dissolve plastic,
> ---
>
> I think you will find almost any paint that is not water based, would
> dissolve those cheap plastic cups.  Just use better quality containers
>
>
>
> Phil Matheson
> SAAA Ch 37
> http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/
>
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KR> Just recieved my first check

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

GET LOST, Virg


On 3/17/2011 8:04 AM, dustin Reves wrote:
> This is the easiest partime job ive ever found you should try it out and earn 
> an extra $500 to $1000 a week http://bit.ly/hEYAgk  Sign up i'll help you 
> earn just as much as i do. your gonna laugh at how easy this is.
>   
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KR> FW: What is in this KIT

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

O K, try Aircraft Spruce, Virg


On 3/16/2011 7:51 PM, Dan Heath wrote:
> From: Erin Weber [mailto:er...@wicksaircraft.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 10:27 AM
> To: da...@windstream.net
> Subject: RE: What is in this KIT
>
>
>
> We no longer offer this kit.
>
>

KR> Progress so far

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Get the Fibrefax and Stainless kit from Wicks, Virg


On 3/14/2011 10:45 PM, Jose Fuentes wrote:
> Slow but sure, note the repair job on that elevator, got the braces almost
> done by the machine shop for the landing gear so soon this baby will be on
> it's own wheels!!
>
> Was reading though the plans, and it seems it was supposed to have cooking
> foil thin firewall, .005, gezz that is thin!! No wonder it peeled off with
> my fingers. I'm going with stainless steel at .035 yea a little more weight,
> but this plane is being configured as a single seat plane and with a Type 4
> 2400cc engine. So more then enough to handle the extra weight of a decent
> firewall LOL.
>
> Here are some of my latest pictures:
>   http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2094554=1106895076=f07ac91656
>
> I need to start the other side and get that sanded down and the top deck
> fixed on that side.
>
> Once the landing gear is on and I've done what I want on the top, I'm going
> to put the engine mount on and put some moving wheels bolted to the engine
> mount and put the whole plane on it's nose. that way I can sand and fix
> the bottom. Easier to glass vertical then upside down LOL.
>
> Joe
>
>

KR> Present For You

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

GO AWAY


On 3/9/2011 11:08 PM, Birgit Koennecke wrote:
> There's my present for you http://www.creativemedicalstaffing.com/info.html 
> Enjoy it!
>
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KR> Don betchans retracts and fuselage sides.

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

 I think that making the sides the same width top and bottom saves a lot
 of work later on, Virg
> > From what I have been reading most KR fuse sides are wider at the
> shoulders than they are at the bottom, is this correct?  Would it
> incur
> any significant increase in work to make them the same width top and
> bottom? I bought Mike Arnold's AR-5 DVD's and from
> what I understand
> that played a big part in lowering interference drag between the fuse
> and wing.

KR> KR1

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

On 11/8/2010 4:41 PM, Fred Johnson wrote:
> Those building a KR1 check this Czech site out:
>
> http://sdplanes.com/sd1buildersa.htm
>
> I like the B burning .9 gallons an hour at 85MPH!
>
> It appears to built like a KR but with a T-tail.
>
> Fred Johnson
>
> Reno, NV
>
>
> The original 36hp KR-1 did 100mph @ 1gal/hr, Virg
>
>
>
>

KR> What happened to the KR-100?

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

 Jeanette Rand could probably tell you. It was going to be a racing 
Plane, Virg


 On 11/8/2010 7:57 AM, twarner wrote:
> I looked thru the archives and did not see the answer. Anyone know where it
> is or if it could be purchased? The FAA registry shows as invalid address.
>
>
>
> Terry
>
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KR> KR-2 project for sale - reskinning

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

 DON'T, spend the time finishing the project and go FLY, Virg


 On 11/6/2010 3:22 PM, ttcse/Tom wrote:
> What would be a good procedure for removing existing fuselage skin and leave 
> surfaces good for applying new skin?
>
>
>
>

KR> KR-2 project for sale.

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

 Birch is an acceptable plywood for the KR series. It was sold in 
the wood kit, Virg


\On 11/6/2010 12:14 AM, I FLY KRs wrote:
> Netter's,
>
>
>
> I have a standard KR-2 project for sale.  This is a great start on a build
> for not a lot of cash.
>
>
>
> The Good -
>
>
>
>
> The Bad -
>
> 2.  The builder did really nice work on the spruce.  Something was lost
> in translation on the fuselage skin and it was not installed correctly.  It
> should be removed and new skin installed.  The builder used birch.  I have a
> little mahogany I can throw in but not enough to do all of it.
>
>
>

KR> Intro of my self

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

 13 Gal is 2/3 Hours flying. How much air time do you need ?
 FLY don't fix, Virg


 On 11/2/2010 9:46 AM, Jose Fuentes wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> My Name is Joe Fuentes,
>
> I'm planning on buying a KR2 and will probably finish the transaction I've
> started in mid Nov. The KR2 is a very interesting plane and has good speed
> which is what I'm looking for. The plane I'm looking at only has the
> standard 13-15gal header tank. It also has a Rev Master 2100 rebuilt. I need
> to put things back together and do some body work (hits and such here and
> there) but over all the plane looks to be in good condition. I'm also
> planning on getting it approved for VFR Night (as currently it has no
> position/anticolision lights or headlights).
>
>

KR> Stabilizer and rudder modifications

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

 Put OILITE bushings in the Aluminum hinges and go fly, Virg


 On 10/31/2010 10:36 PM, Steven Bedford wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have been lurking on the web and krnet for sometime now and I have recently 
> acquired a Kr-2s project.
> The wings are raf-48, built and installed per plans.  The horizontal stab and 
> rudder installed and built
> per plans.  I have been contemplating on rebuilding the horz. stab and rudder 
> using Mark L.
> airfoils and Dr. Dean hinges.  The elevator has 3 non-bearing hinges same as 
> rudder.  I would
> think that the elevator would not be "airworthy" knowing what we know now 
> about the kr hinges.
> In order to redo the spars would I be able to laminate thicker spruce onto 
> the oe spars or would
> I have to completely remove the old spars and start over? or install oil 
> impregnated bushings
> into the existing 3 hinges and fly sooner?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Steven Bedford
> s1bedf...@msn.com
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KR> (no subject)

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

 No Subject, no text, Virg ??


 On 10/30/2010 9:20 PM, LG McCaw wrote:
>
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KR> KR-2 on Ebay

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

 Looks like an original KR-2 Canopy from RR, Virg


 On 10/29/2010 1:26 AM, kleirf...@ecomail.org wrote:
> I believe this is a KR-2.  I was wondering what kind of canopy it has.
>
>
>

KR> Fwd: glass ? panel]

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

 FYI, to the computer savvy guys, Virg

 Original Message 
Subject:glass ? panel







http://www.eink.com/kits/amepd.html

I got a chance to look closely at a Kindle this past weekend. It
has a fascinating display.

The above link is the marketing site for a protyping system
which uses the e-ink flat-panel display, the same display used
on the new Kindle electronic book.

The protyping kit (at $3K) includes a computer with Linux
preinstalled.

What I wish I had now was the time (and disposable cash) to buy
one of these units to see if it could be interfaced to aircraft
engines and instrumentation.

What especially interests me is the very readable low-power
display. It is just as easily read in bright sunlight as in dim
light.
The display draws a small current only when the image is being
updated, so when used as an electronic book, the unit (which
weighs only a few ounces) has a battery-life of one month.

Friends of mine are building LSA aircraft without standard
electrical system to minimize weight.
Some are using small solar panels to charge lightweight lithium
batteries to power their instrumentation.


The very light weight and extremely low-power display may have a future in 
aircraft.

Robin Berglund


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KR> outboard wing tanks

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

 How big is your Bladder ? Virg



 On 10/25/2010 3:52 AM, John Martindale wrote:
> inner part of the outer wing between spars. That's 4 to 5 hours flying
> depending on your engine size..why go to tip tanks??
>
>
>

KR> KR-1 Plans

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

  Did you call Steve (???) and inform him before posting this 
comment ?
 Let him have a chance to correct the problem ! Virg


 On 10/18/2010 1:45 AM, John Caudle wrote:
> Men of KR Flight:
>
> I just received my KR-1 plans and am not overly pleased.
>

KR> kr control sensitivity/ my final thoughts

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

  Pick up, read and STUDY "Stick and Rudder", Virg


 On 10/17/2010 11:58 PM, David Goodman wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
>
> Is the KR2 really a lot more sensitive than a KR2S?
>
> Having recently flown both the KR2S (mine) and test flown a basically stock
> KR2 (small extensions on the horizontal stab) I can say they felt the same
> to me.  I honestly could not tell enough difference between them to say one
> felt any different than the other in pitch.  My plane has outer wing fuel
> tanks and the KR2 I flew did not.  As a result, the KR2 has significantly
> better roll rate, but I could not give you a degrees per second comparison.
> It was noticeable.
>
> Others mileage may vary.
>
> IHS,
> Dave "Zipper" Goodman
> President, EAA-818
>
>
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KR> KR2 cockpit

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

  Make the sides vertical and get more butt room. Virg


 On 10/14/2010 2:25 PM, cgardn628 wrote:
> Greg,
>
> I have a stock width KR2S (36") and would agree it's a little tight for 2
> people. You need to be really good friends to fly in a KR2!
>
> Having said that, if you widen the fuselage you will not be able to use the
> pre- made turtledeck parts from Steve Glover ( Rand top deck kit) without
> some serious modification as they do not stretch at all.
>
> If you are going to scratch build everything then I would go with at least 4
> inches wider for comfort. You will be glad you did.
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris Gardiner
> KR2S C-GKRZ 220 hours to date
>
>
>
>
>

KR> kr2 accident

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

  How about OVER CONTROLLING on the part of the pilot? Virg


 On 10/11/2010 5:01 AM, Craig Williams wrote:
> according to the article it looks like pitch sensitivity was possibly the
> problem
>
> http://cbs13.com/local/injury.plane.crash.2.1893161.html
>
>
>
>
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KR> Wicks aircraft "open house" day

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

  And  now for a 3/4 Front view, Virg


 On 10/10/2010 9:42 AM, Larry Flesner wrote:
> At 09:47 PM 10/9/2010, you wrote:
>> but for now check out this picture of Larry flying early this
>> morning over Illinois.  See
>> http://www.n56ml.com/wicks/101009032sm.jpg ...
>>
>> Mark Langford
>