KR> The 'killer turn'

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Ron; nothing works. We had one pilot land a Harvard wheels up. When asked
why he hadn't heeded the towers warning to overshoot he replied " I couldn't
hear you for the horn blaring in my ears"
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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- Original Message -
From: "Ron Freiberger" <rfreiber...@swfla.rr.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 5:08 PM
Subject: RE: KR> The 'killer turn'


>   Maybe an A of A
> indicator that has a warning device that is a big fist that comes
> out of
> the panel and smacks us between the eyes to get our attention is
> the
> answer.  :-)
>
> Larry Flesner
> ~~~`
>
> Perfect answer Larry; where can I get one?
>
> Ron Freiberger
> mailto: rfreiberger at swfla.rr.com
>
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KR> Adieu

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Doug; Thanks. Hope to drop inm from time to time.
ps. I found some more paper for you including the plans for the 2S wings.
Will deliver same first time i'm over ur way.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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- Original Message -
From: "Doug Rupert" <drup...@sympatico.ca>
To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 6:46 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Adieu


> Bill you can rest assured that it now has my top priority, much to my
wife's
> chagrin. Also know that when completed you will be among the first to fly
> her.
> Doug
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
> Of bill kirkland
> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 4:46 PM
> To: KR builders and pilots
> Subject: KR> Adieu
>
> With considerable regret I have sold my KR-2s project. After 7 yrs of work
I
> am less than half finished and I can not see getting it finished in the
> forseeable future. My disability has progressed to the point that I can
not
> stand without support and I need two hands to hold a twelve pound weight.
> With luck I can hold on to me pilots licence for another couple of years
so
> I can continue to fly me 150 for now.
>
> Doug Rupert purchased my project and I sure hope he gets to finish it. Itt
> would be a real thrill to see it fly.
>
> May drop in from time to time.
> W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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KR> Adieu

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
With considerable regret I have sold my KR-2s project. After 7 yrs of work I am 
less than half finished and I can not see getting it finished in the forseeable 
future. My disability has progressed to the point that I can not stand without 
support and I need two hands to hold a twelve pound weight. With luck I can 
hold on to me pilots licence for another couple of years so I can continue to 
fly me 150 for now.

Many thanks to all those on the KR net. I would never have been able to keep at 
this project without all the encouragement and advice I have received thru the 
net and at the fly ins.

Doug Rupert purchased my project and I sure hope he gets to finish it. Itt 
would be a real thrill to see it fly.

May drop in from time to time.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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KR>KR2 soob engine mount

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Dave; Try Dave Johnson at "reductions"
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave Jeltema 
  To: kr...@mylist.net 
  Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:07 AM
  Subject: KR>KR2 soob engine mount



  Does anyone have a subaru EA81 engine mount, or plans for one available for 
sale or is there anyone that makes them  thank you everyone keep up the good 
work!


  Thank You 
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KR>KR-2 Engine Choices

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Sidney; With respect to (wrst) HP VS SPEED the ratio is one of cubes. eg the
cube root of 75 hp is 4.2. that of 100 hp is 4.62. The ratio is 1.1. ie if
75 hp gives 150 mph 100 hp gives 165 mph.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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- Original Message -
From: "Wood, Sidney M." <smw...@titan.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 1:28 PM
Subject: KR>KR-2 Engine Choices


KRnetters,
I am building a KR-2, converted to tri-gear from retract conventional gear.
Dan Diehl gear legs are installed.  It is time for an engine.  My first
choice was a 75 hp 2180 vw direct drive with electronic ignition from Steve
Bennett.  Full-up price ready to bolt on, including freight and wood prop is
about $7,000.  Then I came across www.vw-engines.com that were offering
three sizes of vw with fuel injection.  What looked about right for my KR-2
was a 2000 cc 100+ hp model RG 2000 with a geared redrive, fuel injection
and electronic ignition.  This engine is based on a type 4 Porsche engine.
The weight with all accessories less a wood prop is 221 lbs.  To effectively
use this 100+ hp I will need a 58 inch diameter by 60 inch pitch prop.  That
means I need to raise the standing height another 3 inches for proper ground
clearance.  That means I need to replace the Diehl gear with longer gear
from www.vw-engines.com .  Also I must use a new bed-mount for the new nose
gear and redrive engine, rebuild the fuel system to accommodate low pressure
and high pressure fuel pumps, an anti-surge tank, tank selector to route
return fuel to the wing tank being used, and possibly another fuel gauge for
the anti-surge tank.  The cowl will require several bumps for the fuel
rails.  The price quote from Australia is $13,980 US plus freight and
customs to add about $700.  Another $2,000 is estimated to do the airframe
mods.

My first question: Is an extra 25 hp worth an extra $9,000?
Second: Is an estimated extra 91 pounds empty weight on a KR-2 realistic?
About 90 percent of this will be forward of the main spar and ahead of the
firewall.
Third: How will the taller gear effect ground handling and flight
characteristics?

I would appreciate your help on this engine choice matter.
Regards,
Sid Wood, KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD sidney.w...@titan.com



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KR>Tri- gear conversion

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Per; First Where are you in Mississauga? I'm in Tillsonburg, building a 2s.
I have the DD tri gear but haven't yet got the nose gear. I've met both
Chris and Owen also.
The more changes you make the longer it takes to finish. Some changes may be
worthwhile though.
Give me a call some time 519 842-6475
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KR>subaru parts needed

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Marty; I have a spare long block. what do you need. some parts I wish to
retain as spares.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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- Original Message -
From: "Marty Hammersmith" <bal...@peoplepc.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: KR>subaru parts needed


 I have EA-81 engine parts including a complete short block. I do not
have heads.


  - Original Message -
  From: Dave Jeltema
  To: kr...@mylist.net
  Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 9:49 AM
  Subject: KR>subaru parts needed


  does anyone have any subaru ea81 conversion parts they want to sell?



  Thank You
  Dave Jeltema



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KR>Sequential fuel injection

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Alex; visited the megasquirt web site and you really made my day. I have a
subaru ea 81 that is MPFI. The previous owner just cut all the wires about
six inches from the computer. I will try it but I have no way of testing it
short of putting it on the eengine. Most fuel injection systems cost mega
bucks but megasquirt offers an inexpensive alternative if I need it. also a
lot of good info on fuel injection systems on the site. really great! Just
made my year on the net.

ps. when I went to school they didn't even have transisters but I'm
learning.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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- Original Message -
From: "Alex Swavely" <k...@swavely.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Sequential fuel injection


> For anyone who is considering adding fuel injection, I'd suggest
> checking out MegaSquirt (http://www.bgsoflex.com/megasquirt.html) -- One
> of the things that many people have tried with it that works fairly well
> is using a small header tank in the engine compartment to pressurize the
> fuel rails which is filled with a low-pressure pump.
> (http://herning.crosswinds.net/projects/megasquirt/megasquirt.html -
> look for "Surge Tank" about halfway down)
>
> Colin & Bev Rainey wrote:
>
> > Some carb pumps can be used for TBI or throttle body injection
> > systems, since they typically use only about 10-15 psi fuel pressure.
> > But in any injection system I have seen in autos, re-circulation back to
> > the fuel tank is critical for proper system operation, and pump life.
>
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KR>medicals

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Chuck; I think I hold the record. After my first heart attack I waited the
required six months then did the treadmill test and echogardiogram (they
want a 51% ejection fraction, nothing to do with sex ). You must be a non
smoker and have your cholestoral within limits. Got my private licence back.
When a clogged artery gave me angina I had an angioplasty with stint I lost
my licence again. Six months and a bit I got it back again. When I had my
second heart attack I figured my flying days were over. Six months later I
again passed the tests and got my licence back. You can't start the tests
until five months after the attack and it usually takes more than six months
to get the results and all okayed. Mind you this is the Canadian scene but
then they pretty much follow the US rules. Bon chance.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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- Original Message -
From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" <c.midk...@verizon.net>
To: "Ron Eason" <r...@jrl-engineering.com>; "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: KR>medicals


> Ron & Ken,
> Thanks for the feedback! This is encouraging. I think I'll continue
working
> on completing my KR in the hope of getting my medical back with no
problem.
> I'm scheduled for a stress test on Jan 9th, so should know more at that
> time. Mine was not a violent attack, but heavy chest pain. I went in to
> emergency and their tests showed I was having one. So they did the
> angioplasty with dye, found the blocked artery then installed a coated
stint
> to correct the problem. I don't think it really did much damage. Three
days
> after getting home from the hospital I got a call from my employee laying
me
> off from my service technician job on Xerox copiers. I think they did me a
> favor. I can now concentrate on getting better and put some quality time
on
> the KR2.
>
> Bud
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> From: "Ron Eason" <r...@jrl-engineering.com>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 6:58 PM
> Subject: KR>medicals
>
>
> > FYI, I can second that.  I had a 5 by-pass in 1995 and had a similar
>
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KR>400 pound scales

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Mark et all; A friend of mine befriended a mobile crew from the Ministry of
highways dept. and when advised what he wanted volunteered to come over and
bring their portable scales. accurate to the oz. Cost him a bottle of rye.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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- Original Message -
From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
Subject: KR>400 pound scales


> NetHeads,
>
html



KR>Windshield - vacume forming.

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Steve; Standing by! show us how.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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- Original Message -
From: "Steve and Lori McGee" <lmc...@maqs.net>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:35 AM
Subject: KR>Windshield - vacume forming.


Below is a reply I sent to Dan Heath on a question of his.  In thinking this
over I have determined that this is the best way that I have of giving of my
experience to the group that has and will help me over the next few years
with things I have no clue about.  I will make up a prototype in miniature
of a female mold and  framework and do this, taking pictures for a web site.
Now true I have not gotten to this stage myself and have not made my own
canopy yet.  ( Yes I am sticking my neck on the block here but wait)  This
is the type of work I have been in for 17 years.  If I can not figure out a
reasonable way to do it easily - I would like to say we are all doomed to
buy them.  If all goes well, besides the web page I will bring the equipment
to the next gathering in Mt. Vernon and do a demonstration if there is
enough interest.

Steve McGee
Endeavor Wi. USA
Building a KR2S widened.
lmc...@maqs.net



- Original Message -
From: Steve and Lori McGee
To: KRBuilder
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: windshield


Okay wait - I am a little confused in the writing.  So when you had the
plastic on the mold and let it drape, there was no visual deformations. (
but if I remember right you had problems with cracking later?  I believe
this is from the plastic being stressed at its earliest possible bending
point and not truly bagging.)
  But now you are heating the plastic on flat sheet of steel and picking it
up hot?  This might be where the problem is or part of it.  You may be
stretching the plastic in ununiformed ways when handling.  ( I can not
believe this is what Todd is doing, this is his bread and butter, you think
he is going to tell you exactly?)
  Now what I intend to do is vacume form the plastic. This can be done with
a male or female mold but is easier at home with a female, as you would not
have to suspend the mold in the air some how, but can build it to sit on the
ground.  For a look at the type of work I am in, go to this website and
watch the steps to the forming at the lower right.  Very sophisticated and
not exactly what I am going to try as it is using a plug and forming a
female upwards.

http://thermoforms.com/forming.html

Notice what these are made out of.

http://thermoforms.com/gallery/mannequins.html

Okay - visualize a rectangle picture frame large enough to hold the plastic
and fit around your mold. Heat the plastic so it bags naturally from its own
weight.  If you want to use a MALE mold, you will bring the  mold into the
plastic from the top, trying not to stretch it much. ( but you do not want
the bag so big, that it is hard to conform to the mold)   The mold will have
to have a frame built around it to match the picture frame, but about a 1/4
inch smaller all around. ( It should just touch the plastic and make a seal)
Also a vacume box is built at the base of the mold to hook up a simple shop
vac.  ( not too powerful now)   ( I know this sounds like a lot but is not!)
You will need a small drill bit, 1/16 might work but 3/64  or even 1/32
would be better.  Now you drill lots of holes in your mold into the vacume
box and that is how the plastic is formed into or against the tool with the
shop vac.

 Now hold on, what about the holes? will they suck plastic in and be
visible?  What if they are under the felt? Now we do not form clear parts
where I work but I know that we heat up plastic and form to an aluminum mold
and wood molds with no problems of the plastic going into the holes or even
being visible in the part UNLESS the plastic is too hot and the vacume is
too high!   So I may try this without even using felt, or by putting the
vacume holes where it will not matter if it does leave marks.

Realistically this type of part should be done with a female mold.  It would
be SO much easier.  In fact I should try and make one of these up in
miniature, take pictures and let someone throw a web page together.  I plan
on being down your way in May.  Maybe I can stop in.
  Steve McGee
  Endeavor Wi. USA
  Building a KR2S widened.
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KR>Scott Cable and Steve Jones Pictures

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Phil; My understanding is that the X braces were put in because under   some
loads the tail was twisting and this was exacerbated when the fuselage was
lengthened.
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- Original Message -
From: "Philip Maley" <p...@wotech.com.au>
To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:48 PM
Subject: RE: KR>Scott Cable and Steve Jones Pictures


> Dan
>
> I noticed that Scott's fuselage
> (http://kr-builder.org/ScottCable/index.html) has diagonal braces on the
> top surface. My old KR2 plans do not show these diagonal members so I
> assume the original design relies on the turtledeck to close the "box"
> and provide torsional stiffness for the fuselage.
>
> Are the diagonal braces shown on the later KR2 or KR2S drawings? If they
> are, can anyone advise if there was any incident that prompted RR to add
> them? I'm sure they are a good idea but wondering if I need to add them
> to my KR2.
>
> Thanks
> Phil Maley
> Perth Australia
>
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KR>Painting tips

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Yes: but if you thin it too much you will have to "repaint and thin no more"
sorry I couldn't resist
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Eason" <r...@jrl-engineering.com>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Painting tips


> Thin the paint with solvent.
> 
> Krron
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Oswaldo P. Silva Filho" <oswald...@globo.com>
> To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:23 PM
> Subject: Re: KR>Painting tips
> 
> 
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "molan" <mo...@terra.com.br>
> > To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 4:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: KR>Painting tips
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > - 
> > > Bill,
> > > 
> > > What is the best way to avoid "orange peel"? 
> > >  
> > > N64KR
> > >  
> > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
> > >  
> > > da...@kr-builder.org
> > >  
> > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR 
> > > 
> > > May be to use a thinner mixture in the spray gun...
> > > 
> > > Paulo S. Molan
> > > KR 2S PT ZPM
> > > Brazil
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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KR>And buy vinyl-ester only when you are ready to use it. It hasa relative short shelf life.

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
When bbuying vinyl ester also get the styrene suppressant "BYK S-750" It
reduces the styrene odour 70 -90%. Add between o.3 and 1%. You will have
much better relations with your wife and your neighbours.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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- Original Message -
From: "Wood, Sidney M." <smw...@titan.com>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:11 PM
Subject: RE: KR>And buy vinyl-ester only when you are ready to use it. It
hasa relative short shelf life.


> Vinyl-ester in the promated state as you would buy it from Wicks or A/C
Spruce has an advertised shelf life of three months.  I have stretched that
to six months by keeping it in a refrigerator; your results may vary.
Vinyl-ester resin puts out lots of styrene fumes when you add the catalyst -
good way to turn your workshop/garage/house into a gas chamber.  MEKP is the
catalyst commonly used.  This stuff looks like clear water, but will work
like concentrated sulfuric acid if you get it in your eyes.  The literature
says "blindness in 4 seconds".  (Who that was tested on is not stated.)
> A fresh air breathing system is definitely recommended, along with eye and
skin protection.
> On the plus side: it's about half the price of epoxy, works the same, has
about the same cured strength, but has been formulated to be gasoline proof
for auto gas, 100 LL, gasohol, etc.
> Sid Wood, KR-2 N6242
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Heath [mailto:da...@alltel.net]
> Sent: Thu 10/30/2003 3:35 PM
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Cc:
> Subject: KR>And buy vinyl-ester only when you are ready to use it. It has
a relative short shelf life.
>
>
>
> RE
>
> And buy vinyl-ester only when you are ready to use it. It has a relative
>
> short shelf life.
>
>
>
>
>
> And only if you have to use it.  It is not for normal consumption.
Research
> it well first.
>
>
>
> N64KR
>
>
>
> Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
>
>
>
> da...@kr-builder.org
>
>
>
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering
>
>
>
> See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic
>
> See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org
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KR>Props

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
I'm also using a Subaru and am considering using twin carbs. Any suggestions
as to size would be welcome.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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- Original Message -
From: "Gavin Donohoe" <gavinandlou...@bigpond.com>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 8:06 PM
Subject: KR>Props


> Hi All,
>  Well I've decided on the Subaru engine at last and have one on the way to
me with the H.O heads and cam!! Think I'll probably use a Sub 4 reduction
drive and twin Bing Carbs, Can someone tell me the model number that  I'm
after with  carbs? and I'll need advice on props, I have a friend who is
able to make wooden props but he'll be retired before I'm finished my
project, so I want him to make me one soon. Has anybody got experience on
diameter and pitch for the Subaru with about 110Hp that can  help me so I
can get him started on it? I'd appreciate any advice on this.
> My boat is almost finished, what a relief that'll be !!!
>
> Thanks
>
> Gavin
>
>
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KR>paint/antennaes

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Tim; In  the KR your handheld would receive and Tx better than in a spam can
because the canopy doesn't interfere with the radio waves. The silver paint
would likely cause some interference.
The ground makes the ant. work better thus building a ground plane and a
proper ant. into the plane will  greatly help Tx and Rx.
 The Ant. is the single most important part of a radio system. Amatuer
radio operators have a whole class of people who specia`lize in working the
whole world on three watts of power or less. They make up for the lack of
power by using very large, very efficient antennaes. Mine used to be thirty
feet in diameter and weigh 60 lbs.
Pay attention to your antennae.
VE3MZR
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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- Original Message -
From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: KR>paint


> Hi Mark,
> Well I'd be lying if I said you didn't scare the hell out of me about
using
> silver paint.( I have two Gal.)
> Do you see any problems using a handheld with it's own antenna not
grounded
> to the airframe?Would it be the same as in a Spam can? I don't plan on
using
> the Nav on it as this is a day VFR only plane(mine, not the design)
> As far as the feather fill, I too am not trying to achieve perfection but
> get close as I can within reason and feather fill is said to be great at
> sanding and filling imperfections, But I still want the UV protection from
> the smooth prime.
> Thanks again,
> Tim Bellville
> KR2  N7038V
>  Original Message -
> From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
> To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 9:20 AM
> Subject: Re: KR>paint
>
>
> > Tim wrote:
> >
> > > I plan on using "Nevada silver" as a base and considering a
checkerboard
> > > pattern on the nose.
> >
> > The thing about silver is that is entirely composed of metallic aluminum
> > chips.  You might argue that it's very thin, and you'd be right, be so
is
> > aluminum foil, the stuff that people use to make ground planes out of.
I
> > was thinking about painting my plane the same color as my car, which has
a
> > little metallic in it.  An electrical engineer buddy whose specialty is
> > antennas modeled my vertical stab and antenna in some software that
> analyzes
> > antenna patterns at specific frequencies.  While the signal improved
> > slightly out front (for 123 kHz), it just about got killed completely
from
> > behind, thanks to the vertical stab and rudder behind it.  That's bad
> > enough, but then it dawned on me that the other half of antenna dipole
is
> > buried INSIDE the fuselage, and beneath the aft deck, so you might as
well
> > throw that leg away entirely!  That's when I went to just plain red.
> Based
> > on his analysis, and the experience of others, silver paint would
> seriously
> > degrade antenna performance, which is why I'm probably going with a very
> > light gray on top instead.  My thinking is that white or light gray is
> easy
> > to see from above, and a dark color such as red is easy to see from
below.
> > If neither of those arguments hold water, then it's just because I like
> red!
> >
> > > As A side note, do you see any problem using feather fill over
> > smoothprime?
> >
> > I don't know about Feather Fill, but I sprayed an entire layer of
urethane
> > primer over Smooth Prime on my plane.  Not that it proves anything, just
> > that I don't think there'll be a problem with what I did.  Can't say
about
> > Feather Fill, since it's polyester based.  Wouldn't you want to follow
> > Smooth Prime with the primer or sealer that's recommended for your top
> coat?
> > For example, DuPont's Ultimate 2K urethane primer is OK for use directly
> > under DuPont's urethane colors, and it has a great build and is easy to
> > sand.  It's working for me.  Feather Fill might be just fine, but I
don't
> > know.  I guess I should let somebody that knows what they're talking
about
> > answer that one...
> >
> > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
> > N56ML "at"  hiwaay.net
> > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
> >
> >
> >
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KR>OK, Daniel Heath.....you asked for it!!-Weather

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Brian & Darren; Did you remember tho put the "y" in front of the Canadian
airport identifier? Some airports need it and some don't. eg; YYZ for
Toronto
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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- Original Message -
From: "Brian Kraut" <eng...@earthlink.net>
To: <pon...@rogers.com>
Cc: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: KR>OK, Daniel Heath.you asked for it!!-Weather


> I looked up a few airport identifiers and put them in and got a "Bad
Airport" message on the phone so I would say they don't have Canada coverage
yet.  That brings up the one gripe I have on the system.  You put in airport
identifiers and it centers the screen on the selected airport which is
great, but you can't scroll the picture to the sides so if you want the
weather centered in the midddle of nowhere where you are flying and there
are no airport around you are out of luck.  You can, however, zoom out and
get the big picture anywhere.
>
>
>
> I think I know the answer but can you see if it can access Ontario Canada
> Weather
> Sounds like a really cool modern-day instrument
> Darren
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of Brian Kraut
> Sent: September 20, 2003 7:31 PM
> To: KR builders and pilots
> Subject: Re: KR>OK, Daniel Heath.you asked for it!!-Weather
>
>
> I subscribed to the service about two months ago and I love it.  The
> images are great and very accurate.  Their tech support is also
> excellent.  I had a brand new model of Samsung phone and they gave me a
> free trial to see if it would work on my phone.  When it didn't work
> they modified their software in one day to work on my phone.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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KR>Re Fly in

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Fly In. Well I tried. Five hrs. flying got me to Galesburg Illinois but FSS
and the radar plot advised of a slow moving cold front with thunderstorms
embedded, from Canada down to Kansas . Wouldn't be able to get to Red Oak
till Sun. and once they passed me I would be 3 or 4 more days before I could
return eastward. RedOak forecast called for rain and thundershowers.
I've done my share of scud running but Cbs. scare the hell out of me. Took
the briefers advice and turned around and flew home while I still could. Ten
hrs. on my 150.
Now what do I do with 1/2 gal of maple syrup (Mark's) and a bottle of Ice
Wine?
May be my last attempt. :(

W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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KR>Re Fly in

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Orma; Thanks. Earlier does seem to be better.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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From: <aviationm...@aol.com>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Re Fly in


> In a message dated 9/13/2003 1:55:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> wkirkl...@rogers.com writes:
>
> > 3 or 4 more days
>
> I remember the rain in Kentucky that kept us hanging around of a few extra
> days.  This is why I mentioned that I hope the attendees will vote to hold
the
> fly in earlier in the season.  Congrats on the supreme effort
> Orma AKA AviationMech
> KR2 N110LR
> 1984 to Present
> www.members.aol.com/aviationmech
> also see me at
> www.aviation-mechanics.com
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KR>(no subject)

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Tim; I'm having thee same problem. So far just plan to do away with the
wooden end ribs at the outer end once I have the main part of the wing
completed. It certainly isn't structural.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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- Original Message -
From: "Tim Brown" <timwbr...@yahoo.com>
To: "KR Net" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 9:53 PM
Subject: KR>(no subject)


> I am fairly certain that I am not the only one
> building a 2S to install the 33 rib on the spars
> before reading further (or remembering) to
> install the foam extensions.  The foam extensions
> call for 2 layers of BID on both sides extended
> 2" onto the wood spars. (plan sheet W2)
>
> I have removed the LE and TE of #33 so I can
> follow the plans.  Because the outer wing foam is
> already in place between the spars and 5/8"
> square spruce gussets are T-88d in place, I
> really don't want to mess that up.  Any thoughts
> about glassing the foam per plans but then put a
> fillet of thick micro or flox at the junction of
> the foam to rib and carry the glass onto the rib?
>
> One other question/thought.  The 29 1/8 rib seems
> to be irrelevant.  The plans show to radius the
> LE of the wing tip(which you could not do as
> shown on the plans with the rib installed as
> shown) and also to round the tip outer edges
> (again which you could not do with the ply rib
> there).  Are you all not using this rib or just
> using a portion of it?  Are you putting an
> additional 3 or 4 inches of foam beyond the rib
> and putting the radius and rounding here?
>
> Tim
>
>
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KR>Red Oak weather

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Larry; Keep the wx rpts coming pse.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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- Original Message - 
From: "larry flesner" <fles...@midwest.net>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 7:00 PM
Subject: KR>Red Oak weather


> 
> 
> Red Oak travelers,
> 
> I just checked the 7 day forcast for Red Oak on the NOAA site
> and they are calling for "chance of showers and T-storms on 
> Wed and Thurs with partly cloudy on Friday.  That "chance
> of rain" is forcasted for southern Illinois on Friday so it looks
> to be setting up for a repeat of last year for Mark Langford and
> I as we dodged rainshowers for the first hour of the flight to
> Red Oak in the Tripacer.  Being an optimist I'm betting that if
> there is a "chance" of rain there is also a chance it won't
> rain.  With a little luck we could have a GREAT weekend.
> I'll probably be checking hourly starting Monday!  :-)
> 
> Larry Flesner
> 
> 
> 
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KR>Building a KR2

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Mark; The instruments on my 150 are calibrated in Roman Numerals
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Building a KR2
M://www.krnet.org/instructions.html



KR>Cowling- and foam problem

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Joe; I'm also doing my wings and have a similar problem. The panels scallop
when sanded. bothe the main panel and the leading edge. I also did what ur
doing. Cut 1" x1" strips of foam and glued them to the spars between the
ribs and will glue the 1" panel to the ribs and the supports. The problem is
that when you press on the sanding board the panel depresses and is level
but it pops back up as soon as you take the sanding board off. The other
solution is to build them the way Mark langford does. ie shape the inside of
the panel then fiberglass it, then put the panel in place and sand the top
side. see Marks web site. ps. my sanding board is a 7' length of rectangular
plastic drain pipe covered with the sandpaper that comes in a roll. works
fine.
Let me know how you make out.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
wkirkl...@rogers.com
- Original Message -
From: "Joseph H Horton" <joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Cowling- and foam problem


> I have a KR-2S cowl from Rand - Robinson that I will probaly offer up for
> sale in the next couple months. I'm in the process
> of pulling a mold off it to make one out of carbon fiber. The fit and
> finish is OK but I felt the weight was not acceptable with the corvair
> under the hood. Yes it does fit around a corvair with plenty of room.
> I'm having a little trouble shaping my wing foam. I followed the
> instructions by installing 1" foam over 2" ribs in the sections between
> spars. I had both wings sanded down to finial shape and came back the
> next day and the foam panels between the ribs had bowed up. I sanded to
> shape again which thins the foam panel down. Came back again the next day
> with humps in the panels. I'm at the point now that I don't want to thin
> the foam any more so I added bulk peices of foam scraps to the under side
> insde the wing to stiffen the panels before I sand them again hoping that
> it stabilizes the foam panels. I don't have the problem in the leading
> edge panels or the trailing ege panel, but they are thicker- more like 1
> 1/2"  to 2" thick. The other factor that may be at work is the hanger is
> not insulated and drops to the upper 60's at night and some days into the
> 90's.
> Anyone else ever have anything like this happen to them? Or any
> thoughts?
> I can hardly wait to learn the sanding song. Would it sound ok with banjo
> backup cause I cann't play the guitar?
> Looking forward to meeting everyone in 6 days.
> Thanks -- Joe Horton
>
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:42:55 EDT goreebeth...@aol.com writes:
> > I do not personally know about a new engine cowling from R.R. I am
> > thinking
> > about buying one for my KR2S.  I do have a cowling for a KR2.  It
> > has an air
> > inlet at the bottom center location. I did split it top and bottom
> > to widen it
> > to make a cowling for my KR2S.  It could be fiberglassed to
> > reattach. If I
> > can't find a new or used cowling, I will make you a good deal on the
> > one that I
> > have.   Ray Goree  ( goreebeth...@aol.com)
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> >
>
>
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KR>2003 KR Gathering - Hotel Reservations!

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Will arrive Thur. about 4 or 5 in my trusty 1960 C-150.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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- Original Message -
From: "gpasc" <gp...@earthlink.net>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:42 PM
Subject: KR>2003 KR Gathering - Hotel Reservations!


> To all of those who are coming to the Gathering:
>
> Please make sure you have made your room reservations by September 1.
After
> that date, the rooms we have blocked for the Gathering go back into their
> inventory and are open to the public.  Hotel information can be found at:
> http://www.krgathering.org
>
> Please continue your RSVPs to the Roll Call.  I have been keeping track of
> them for a headcount to plan for food.
>
> 2003 KR Gathering focus will be: "Celebrating First Flights".  Forums and
> discussions will be focused on how to get you and your aircraft ready for
> your first flight.
>
> If you have any questions or concerns, please email off the list.
>
> Linda Bennett
> gp...@earthlink.net
> 2003 KR Gathering
> Secretary/Treasurer
>
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KR>6" pneumatic tailwheel

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
For 5 or 6 " pneumatic wheels try the people who make scooters for the
handicapped. No you can't have mine!
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
wkirkl...@rogers.com
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From: "larry flesner" <fles...@midwest.net>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>/instructions.html



KR>Subaru. Timing belt. Smokey

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
There is no timing belf on the ea 1800 subaru's
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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KR>wing profile

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
My original plans were for a KR2 then I bought tthe plans for the KR2S. When 
doing up the ribs for the outer wing I used the plan dimensions for the inner 
rib. I then found a data sheet for the rib profile. When I plotted that I found 
it similar but not identtical. With a little comparing I found that the 
cordline was off by abbout 1 degree on the inner rib.
Anybody know which is the correct version?
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
wkirkl...@rogers.com


KR>vinylester resin

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
For vinyl ester resin try a marine supply or fiberglass store. vinyl ester
must be "promoted" by the supplier when you buyy it. Once promoted it has a
shelf life of about three months.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
wkirkl...@rogers.com
- Original Message -
From: "ROBERT COOPER" <kr2coo...@msn.com>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: KR>vinylester resin


Marks point about being ready to use it when you buy it is very important. I
have bought 2 gallons and have used maybe 1/2 gal. total. Now I need more. I
tried to revive the hardened resin by heating but it did not work. Does
anyone know a source for vinylester resin other than A/C Spruce or a source
to buy a quart or half gal.
Jack Cooper
mailto:kr2coo...@msn.com
http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/kr2
Fayetteville, NC.
  - Original Message -
  From: Mark Langford
  To: KR builders and pilots
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:52 AM
  Subject: Re: KR>Tanks


  Colin Rainey wrote:

  >> Can someone please tell me the actual product names/or part numbers to
  use from either Wicks, or AS so that I don't order the wrong stuff. I
  can't seem to find any product description that describes resin as
  vinylester, and have forgotten which foam is okay to use if necessary.<<

  Colin,

  In my slightly old AS catalog, it's just called "vinyl ester resin", and
  has a part number of 01-07350.  You also need the catalyst, 01-07325.
Last
  time I checked, Wicks didn't sell it.  Make sure you're ready to use the
  stuff when you order it, because it has a finite shelf life once
"promoted",
  which is how it'll be when you get it.  You add "catalyst" to make it
cure.
  Also check on availability, because last time I ordered it I had to wait
  about 3 or 4 months for it (which is one reason I'm still not real wild
  about AS).  Properties and mixing instructions are listed in the AS
  catalog as well...

  Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
  N56ML at hiwaay.net
  see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford



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KR>Re gussets

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Only the gussets at the firewall are 2". The rest are 5/8. Only those at the
top longeron are rt angle. The rest have one or two angles. compound. You
will need a carpenters adjustable bevel (ab0ut $5.00). Sand or cut the
angles and expect to make some mistakes especially on the compound angle
ones. I have about 20 of the mistakes for sale cheap! lol :-)
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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KR>KR

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Tim; I have two venturi's on my 150. there is no suction guage. They drive
the DGI and A/H. They are mounted on the side ust aft of the engine
compartment. They are uncovered all year. Simple and reliable but don't
count on them in ice.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
kirkl...@vianet.on.ca
- Original Message -
From: "Timothy Bellville" <soner...@worldnet.att.net>
To: "Robert Tate Gann" <bu...@usit.net>; "KR builders and pilots"
<kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 8:47 AM
Subject: KR>KR


> Hi everyone,
> I have a new "Old" question ,
> Where on the fuselage would be the best location for a 4"(10"
long)venturie
> to run my DG? I know there was a recent discussion about it but I didn't
> follow it that close. now that I have come in to a great deal on this
> instrument I would like to use it.but I do not like the idea of using an
> engine driven pump.
> The simplest thing to do is the venturie,right?
> Also does it need to have a shut off valve and suction gage? would
covering
> it on the ground be ok instead?
> Thanks
> Tim Bellville
> KR2
> N7038V
>
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KR>Wood Question

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Justin; Aircraft grade plywood has a high degree of quality control. The
layers are very thin, they have no knots or internal faults or voids and the
glues are high strength and waterproof. Thats what makes them so costly.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
kirkl...@vianet.on.ca
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From: "Justin" <jmw...@socal.rr.com>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 8:28 PM
Subject: KR>Wood Question


I seen Birch Plywood at the Local wood store. Is this ok for airplanes? I
know a fellow plane builder in my chapter who is building his plane with
Birch but im not sure where he got it. I am no expert in anyway (obvously)
on what is acceptable.

Justin
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KR>Questions

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Phil. Would you check the Diel aero address for me I can't get it to
download.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND http wkirkl...@rogers.com  -
From: "Phil Matheson" <mathe...@dodo.com.au>
To: "KR builders and pilots" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 5:07 AM
Subject: Re: KR>Questions


> Have alook at the Dan Diehl site, he mate the wingskins and tri gear
> http://www.diehlaero.com/landing.htm
>
> Phil Matheson
> mathe...@dodo.com.au
>
> See our VW Engines and Home built web page at
> http://www.vw-engines.com/
> www.homebuilt-aviation.com/
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KR>Value of a KR

2008-10-12 Thread bill kirkland
Joe; Just send the cheque to Mark! I'm sure he would appreciate it. I have a
similar amount of time invested in my plane. If you really want to save
money take a Mac job and put the money towards a new airplane. But think of
all the fun and experience you would miss out on. Thats what I keep telling
myself.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
kirkl...@vianet.on.ca
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From: "Joseph H Horton" <joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com>
>
> > > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
> >
> >
> >
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