KR> 14.7 AFR gauges

2011-01-27 Thread Larry H.
Mark L.

If you were going to have only one EGT probe on a Corvair engine, which 
cylinder 
would be the most beneficial to place it on? I still have some of the one cyl 
EGTs and see some for sale occasionally really cheap.
When I first started flying in 1969 (dinosaur days) most private planes did not 
have EGTs, just the cool guys were starting to have them and then usually only 
one probe/cylinder EGTs. Alcor was the best at the time and then later 
developed 
the first multi cyl EGTs that I remember. Those gages had one needle readout 
and 
a dial to switch to 4 different probes/cylinders. The pilot could only see a 
readout on one cylinder at a time, dial, see cyl #1, dial see cyl #2 etc. If 
you 
developed a problem on a cylinder that you weren't switched to then you missed 
it, unless something bad happened of course. Things have changed dramatically 
since those days thank goodness.
Larry H.






KR> 14.7 AFR gauges

2011-01-27 Thread Mark Langford
Craig Williams wrote:

>>Maybe this is not for me after all.  My plan is to run a six into six 
>>exhaust.  EGT may be easier and cheaper if I do that.

I didn't say it wouldn't work on just one cylinder, just that most 
applications try to cover as many cylinders as possible, probably to get the 
best overall gas sample for the highest quality reading.  I have no doubt 
that reading only one cylinder would yield useful information.

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com




KR> 14.7 AFR gauges

2011-01-27 Thread Craig Williams


--- On Thu, 1/27/11, Mark Langford  wrote:

> From: Mark Langford 
> Subject: Re: KR> 14.7 AFR gauges

> 
> I don't know of anybody that only monitors one
> cylinder.  Mine measures 
> three, Joe Horton has two, with each measuring three, all
> automobiles 
> measure all cylinders at once downstream.
> 


 OK, that makes sense.  Maybe this is not for me after all.  My plan is to run 
a six into six exhaust.  EGT may be easier and cheaper if I do that.





KR> 14.7 AFR gauges

2011-01-27 Thread Mark Langford
Craig Williams wrote:

>>1.   With EGT we normally monitor all cyl but with AFR we are typically 
>>only monitoring one.  Is there a chance you could run one of the other 
>>cylinders too lean and burn a valve?

I don't know of anybody that only monitors one cylinder.  Mine measures 
three, Joe Horton has two, with each measuring three, all automobiles 
measure all cylinders at once downstream.

>>2.  Would you want to adjust the mixture on takeoff by this gauge to 
>>maximize HP?

You want to take off with the mixture a tad rich to minimize the possibility 
of detonation, and for max power.  It won't take you long to figure out 
where the mixture meter needs to be set to get that.  On my AFR gauge that's 
with the second LED from the top lit, and the top one no lit.

>>3.  Once leaned to 14.7 afr is there any reason other than an altitude 
>>changes to touch it?

With my Ellison (and I'm guessing most other carbs) a change of throttle 
setting will also change the mixture.  I adjust my mixture quite often while 
flying, especially after initial climbout, as I climb through 5000' feet or 
so, and then when I'm at final cruise altitude and have backed off to cruise 
rpm (about 3050, most of the time).  And not just to 14.7:1, but far below 
that, with only the lowest LED blinking occasionally.  There's more on that 
at http://www.n56ml.com/corvair/o2meter/ .

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com



KR> 14.7 AFR gauges

2011-01-27 Thread Craig Williams
Well thank you Sid!  Ever since I came to see you last weekend I have been 
pondering the AFR gauge.  Although I can't use the nice bright laser red unit 
you have because my cockpit is being done in a military style (black face 
gauges with white needles) I am hooked on the idea and will install one of 
these gadgets once I find one that can works for my style.  But I have a few 
questions I hope someone can answer.

1.  With EGT we normally monitor all cyl but with AFR we are typically only 
monitoring one.  Is there a chance you could run one of the other cylinders too 
lean and burn a valve?

2.  Would you want to adjust the mixture on takeoff by this gauge to maximize 
HP?

3.  Once leaned to 14.7 afr is there any reason other than an altitude changes 
to touch it.

Thanks again Sid for spending so much time showing me you plane.  Hope mine is 
half as nice.

Craig