KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?

[John Bouyea]

Well, maybe one. Congratulations Terry Chizek!

-Original Message-
Cc: Dan Heath
Subject: Re: KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?

Having small local/regional meets will work great.  All YOU have to do is to
set it up and DO it.  As Larry has described, hosting a "Gathering" is a lot
of work.  I once set up a small meet in Florida, and I had the only KR
there.  You want it, DO it.  I keep reading about people wanting this, over
many years, and yet, NO ONE has DONE it.  There is nothing stopping you from
doing this.

KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?

[Dan Heath]

Having small local/regional meets will work great.  All YOU have to do is to
set it up and DO it.  As Larry has described, hosting a "Gathering" is a lot
of work.  I once set up a small meet in Florida, and I had the only KR
there.  You want it, DO it.  I keep reading about people wanting this, over
many years, and yet, NO ONE has DONE it.  There is nothing stopping you from
doing this.



See N64KR at   http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
the pics 



2015 KR Gathering - McMinnville, OR.  September 3 - 6 -- See U There.



Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 



Best Interior and Panel at 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN





Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC







-Original Message-



Are we a large enough group to have some regional meetings as well as the
"Gathering"? Or, would this just detract from the "national" meet? 

KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?

[David Mullins]

> , "Randy Moore Newbern Tn. N318RM via KRnet"  wrote:
>   i bet the builders who show up will be bigger.
>
>
> Randy Moore
> Newbern Tn 38059
>
>

I am already bigger, I need to get SMALLER!

Dave M
Nashua NH

KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?

[Mike Arnold]

I will be there for my debut.
On Sep 25, 2015 12:27 AM, "Randy Moore Newbern Tn. N318RM via KRnet" <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

I sure hope it in Mt Vernon next year it is in the middle of everywhere i
bet the builders who show up will be bigger.


Randy Moore
Newbern Tn 38059


KR super single For sale


Avid MK IV


-Original Message-
From: Mark Jones via KRnet 
To: KRnet 
Cc: Mark Jones 
Sent: Thu, Sep 24, 2015 9:34 pm
Subject: Re: KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?


Looking forward to getting back to MVN. As soon as I know the date and that
it
is firm at MVN I am going to block my calendar for the Gathering. I have

missed the last few and I do not intend on missing this one.

Mark Jones
(N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI

E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
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KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?

[bjoenunley]

Dan Heath and I had an unofficial KR gathering at his hanger last weekend. ?It 
made me think how nice a local/regional gathering would be. ?Something I might 
have the chance to attend and meet some more of you good folks.


Joe Nunley?CW2 US Army RetiredBaker JROTC Instructor?Baker Florida?

KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?

[Robert7721]

I concur with having the 2016 at MVN.  


I have started to work plans for possibly hosting one at Lees Summit MO (LXT) 
in 2017, but I would not be prepared for 2016. Our EAA chapter is on board, but 
I still need to work with the airport manager to make sure they support it. We 
have pretty good EAA chapter facilities - hangers, meeting room, kitchen 
facilities.. Camping on the airport may not be allowed which would detract from 
the event. I will be glad to help Larry run this one in 2016, it will prepare 
me for 2017. Understood that this all would require a vote at the end of the 
2016 one, hopefully others are thinking of hosting one as well. Competition is 
a good thing. 


Rob Schmitt
N1852Z
Kansas City, MO




-Original Message-
From: Mark Langford via KRnet 
To: KRnet 
Cc: Mark Langford 
Sent: Thu, Sep 24, 2015 7:49 pm
Subject: KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?


KRnetHeads,

At McMinnville it was agreed that it may not be fair to the
community 
for so few people to vote on the location of the next Gathering, and

that a location (or more, perhaps) should be presented to the KRnet

community, since that's where the majority of the KR community exists. 
It's
worth mentioning that given several opportunities, nobody 
volunteered to host
the 2016 Gathering, although Larry Flesner was 
prepared to volunteer Mt.
Vernon, IL at the McMinnville Gathering, until 
this Internet vote was decided
upon instead.

So to me, we could just say "the next Gathering will be at Mt.
Vernon, 
period", and I suspect that would echo the sentiment of the majority.

But if anybody wants to volunteer to host it, we can add it to the mix 
and
put it to a vote (Survey Monkey comes to mind), or if nobody else 
comes
forward by the end of the weekend, we'll call it MVN and move on.

Keep in
mind the responsibilities and expectations associated with 
hosting the
Gathering are not trivial.  See Larry's short list from 
several weeks ago,
below:
___
Anyone considering
hosting a KR Gathering needs to consider the
following items. Some are
requirements and some just make for a better
event.

- The desire to act as
host for up to 150 people from all points of the
country and possible
international visitors.
- Ability to plan and organize multiple functions for a
large group,
i.e. housing, meals, meetings, awards, banquet, merchandise sales,
etc.
- Complete co-operation and support of the local airport and the
community.
- Facilities: airport with multiple runways would be nice, not
required,
non towered airport preferred, hangar facilities for KR's a
plus,
ramp area large enough to handle KR's and visitors, terminal
with
restrooms and meeting rooms, restaurant on field a big plus, camping
on
airport
a major plus.

Not every airport is "ideal" for a Gathering but
many airports are
adequate. Your desire to host can overcome other facility
shortcomings.

None of this should discourage anyone from wanting to host a
Gathering
if you have the desire and adequate facilities. The KR crowd can have
a
good time anywhere
as long as their basic needs are met.

Larry Flesner
9
year Mt.Vernon, Illinois Gathering
host
_
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Langford
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KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?

[Paul]

Are we a large enough group to have some regional meetings as well as the 
"Gathering"? Or, would this just detract from the "national" meet? 
Paul 
N7970K 
Derry NH 

- Original Message -

From: "Mark Langford via KRnet"  
To: "KRnet"  
Cc: "Mark Langford"  
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 8:49:21 PM 
Subject: KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN? 

KRnetHeads, 

At McMinnville it was agreed that it may not be fair to the community 
for so few people to vote on the location of the next Gathering, and 
that a location (or more, perhaps) should be presented to the KRnet 
community, since that's where the majority of the KR community exists. 
It's worth mentioning that given several opportunities, nobody 
volunteered to host the 2016 Gathering, although Larry Flesner was 
prepared to volunteer Mt. Vernon, IL at the McMinnville Gathering, until 
this Internet vote was decided upon instead. 

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KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?

[stefkr2 at kpnmail.nl]

Hi,
Try next EH-MZ small airport  in the Netherlands...I will be there hahah.

serious, I like all the stories about the Gathering and hope I will be there 
once in the future.
Stef
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>Origineel Bericht
>Van : krnet at list.krnet.org
>Datum : 25/09/2015 07:27
>Aan : krnet at list.krnet.org
>Cc : no1son38 at aol.com
>Onderwerp : Re: KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?
>
>I sure hope it in Mt Vernon next year it is in the middle of everywhere i bet 
>the builders who show up will be bigger.
>
>
>Randy Moore
>Newbern Tn 38059
>
>
>KR super single For sale
>
>
>Avid MK IV
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Mark Jones via KRnet 
>To: KRnet 
>Cc: Mark Jones 
>Sent: Thu, Sep 24, 2015 9:34 pm
>Subject: Re: KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?
>
>
>Looking forward to getting back to MVN. As soon as I know the date and that 
>it
>is firm at MVN I am going to block my calendar for the Gathering. I have
>
>missed the last few and I do not intend on missing this one.
>
>Mark Jones
>(N886MJ)
>Stevens Point, WI
>
>E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
>Web:
>www.flykr2s.com
>
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>
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KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?

[Patrick Driscoll]

I'm fer it, (MV).
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KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?

[Randy Moore Newbern Tn. N318RM]

I sure hope it in Mt Vernon next year it is in the middle of everywhere i bet 
the builders who show up will be bigger.


Randy Moore
Newbern Tn 38059


KR super single For sale


Avid MK IV


-Original Message-
From: Mark Jones via KRnet 
To: KRnet 
Cc: Mark Jones 
Sent: Thu, Sep 24, 2015 9:34 pm
Subject: Re: KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?


Looking forward to getting back to MVN. As soon as I know the date and that 
it
is firm at MVN I am going to block my calendar for the Gathering. I have

missed the last few and I do not intend on missing this one.

Mark Jones
(N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI

E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
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www.flykr2s.com



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KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?

[Mark Jones]

Looking forward to getting back to MVN. As soon as I know the date and that 
it is firm at MVN I am going to block my calendar for the Gathering. I have 
missed the last few and I do not intend on missing this one.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI

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KR> 2016 KR Gathering location...MVN?

[Mark Langford]

KRnetHeads,

At McMinnville it was agreed that it may not be fair to the community 
for so few people to vote on the location of the next Gathering, and 
that a location (or more, perhaps) should be presented to the KRnet 
community, since that's where the majority of the KR community exists. 
It's worth mentioning that given several opportunities, nobody 
volunteered to host the 2016 Gathering, although Larry Flesner was 
prepared to volunteer Mt. Vernon, IL at the McMinnville Gathering, until 
this Internet vote was decided upon instead.

So to me, we could just say "the next Gathering will be at Mt. Vernon, 
period", and I suspect that would echo the sentiment of the majority. 
But if anybody wants to volunteer to host it, we can add it to the mix 
and put it to a vote (Survey Monkey comes to mind), or if nobody else 
comes forward by the end of the weekend, we'll call it MVN and move on.

Keep in mind the responsibilities and expectations associated with 
hosting the Gathering are not trivial.  See Larry's short list from 
several weeks ago, below:
___
Anyone considering hosting a KR Gathering needs to consider the
following items. Some are requirements and some just make for a better
event.

- The desire to act as host for up to 150 people from all points of the
country and possible international visitors.
- Ability to plan and organize multiple functions for a large group,
i.e. housing, meals, meetings, awards, banquet, merchandise sales, etc.
- Complete co-operation and support of the local airport and the community.
- Facilities: airport with multiple runways would be nice, not required,
non towered airport preferred, hangar facilities for KR's a plus,
ramp area large enough to handle KR's and visitors, terminal with
restrooms and meeting rooms, restaurant on field a big plus, camping on
airport
a major plus.

Not every airport is "ideal" for a Gathering but many airports are
adequate. Your desire to host can overcome other facility shortcomings.

None of this should discourage anyone from wanting to host a Gathering
if you have the desire and adequate facilities. The KR crowd can have a
good time anywhere
as long as their basic needs are met.

Larry Flesner
9 year Mt.Vernon, Illinois Gathering host
_
-- 
Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
http://www.n56ml.com

KR> Gathering location

[Jeff York]

Larry,

I would be glad to help with recruiting companies and vendors for forums.

Just a few questions.

Anyone out there willing to share their experiences and expert knowledge to 
participate in a learning forum? Engine, glassing, sheet  metal, electrical, 
new 
technologies, wood working, props, first flights, annuals, do's dont's and what 
to look for? fuel systems, tank building, insturments, radios, builders logs 
and 
high tech builders logs, what I did wrong and what I learned from it? Or, If I 
did it again, How I would do it this time? valve adjustments, cooling

Do we have a list of all previouos vendors which I can use as a lead list? 

Do we have a prospect list of vendors we may have not seen in past gatherings 
that we would like to see in attendance?

Do we have a maximum number of vendors? 

What data, specific to total attendance, space, time and other that I might use 
to call on prospects to sell them on coming?

Have we ever thought of prospecting other groups to attend? such as the Kleenex 
, dragonfly. Quickie or EAA chapters? If we want to keep it someowhat closed to 
other groups I am fine with that.Just thinking out loud and wondering if 
attendance might help promote the cause as well as off set costs.

I would think that gleaing the vendor list from the LSA convention might be a 
great place to start to look for vendor participants? I know that considering 
the scale of our gathering it may be difficult to get vendors to commit to 
forums. But, I am willing to give it a try.

If there should be a larger group of vendors interested,would we want to  think 
about smaller food vendors or T shirt vendors or other aircraft related vendors?

I am not trying to get to far outside of the theme or confines. Just thinking 
out loud.I am not opposed to working hard to get interests, cold calling and 
promoting and working to help make it a good event. Just tell me to shut up if 
or where I go to far.

Thoughts

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying Georgetown Scott County Airport hanger A-5
2010 KR Gathering Peoples Choice, and Best Interior
jeffyor...@yahoo.com



- Original Message 
From: Larry Flesner <fles...@frontier.com>
To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 1:11:19 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Gathering location

At 12:03 PM 2/17/2011, you wrote:
>Larry
>
>What state is this Mt. Vernon in?

++

Mt.Vernon is actually a "state of mind" when mentioned by a KR 
builder / flier, :-) but the actual city of Mt.Vernon is located in 
southern Illinois.  Go to www.krgathering.org for all the details.

I guess my e-mail went through as you replied to it but I've still 
not gotten my copy of what I sent out.  I hope I'm the only one.

Larry Flesner



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KR> Gathering location

[Dan Heath]

Have not  seen your e-mail, Larry.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2011 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
There is a time for building and it never seems to end.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

-Original Message-

I guess my e-mail went through as you replied to it but I've still 
not gotten my copy of what I sent out.  I hope I'm the only one.

Larry Flesner

KR> Gathering location

[Larry Flesner]

At 12:03 PM 2/17/2011, you wrote:
>Larry
>
>What state is this Mt. Vernon in?

++

Mt.Vernon is actually a "state of mind" when mentioned by a KR 
builder / flier, :-) but the actual city of Mt.Vernon is located in 
southern Illinois.  Go to www.krgathering.org for all the details.

I guess my e-mail went through as you replied to it but I've still 
not gotten my copy of what I sent out.  I hope I'm the only one.

Larry Flesner

KR> Gathering location

[laser...@juno.com]

Dana's offer sounds perfect.  

Keep in mind Mike Fox at Perry, OK has an offer open to host the
Gathering too.  From the tapes I've watched, everyone seemed to really
enjoy the Perry location back in the 90's.  It's interesting to wonder
what happened to those KR's and their pilots.  Don Betchan (sp), for one.
 He really had some fancy retractable gear on that plane.  Shame what
happened to it . . .  

Mike
KSEE

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KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Tim]

Enter identifier>  also a picture of the Airport usually provided here...by 
local Flyer's
http://www.airnav.com/airports/





From: "Mark Langford" 


A clue as to where this is (the airport identifier if there is one) would be
nice.  I think grass would be a good experience for a lot of folks.  A 2800'
grass strip is probably equivatlent to a 3600' paved strip, depending on how
tall the grass is.  Although it would be nice, I'm not sure that inside
hangar storage would be imperative.  After all, we leave them outside for
days at SNF and OSH every year.

I forgot to mention camping in my first message.  Camping on the field would
be very good.  A lot of folks have grown quite fond of it, spoiled by MVN's
camping area with the pond/swimming hole.

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website: www.N56ML.com

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Steven Eberhart]

Dana Overall wrote:
> Hum, so I guess Key West is out of the picture.:-(  Sorry 
> Steve, no shirts, hats or sea shells
>
> But then again Steve, as one poster put it...we are probably groupees..
>   
Groupees? Heck that probably ranks up there near the top as one of the 
better things I have been called.  OK, I think all of us Groupees need 
some special attire to set us apart from the other Attendees; I am 
thinking http://www.margaritavillestore.com/browse.cfm/4,2404.html  
You'll find us over near the neon palm tree and Melody Mountains.

Steve Eberhart
Only three days till my Airworthiness Inspection.  Man these hours are 
ticking past sooo slowly.

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Dana Overall]

> >Mark,
> 
> >Is that an invitation
> 
> >Larry Flesner
> 
> Just a thought. I have not cleared anything with the airport authority. If 
> it becomes a reality, I will make a formal proposal at the Gathering

> Mark Jones (N886MJ)


Hum, so I guess Key West is out of the picture.:-(  Sorry 
Steve, no shirts, hats or sea shells

But then again Steve, as one poster put it...we are probably groupees..

Dana Overall 

1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
Richmond, KY i39

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KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Larry Flesner]

At 07:28 AM 6/8/2009, you wrote:
>How about taking a survey to see where most people live and get an 
>average milege to a central location and make that the place to have 
>the gathering?  Wouldn't that be the fair?  You would also have to 
>have someone to host it.
+++


Check out http://www.krnet.org/mvn2004/040929131.jpg  for a map to
see where the "attendees" travel from.  Like Mark Langford said in an
earlier post, the Kansas City area would probably be the most centralized
area.  Southern Illinois is not far off.

Speaking of the Gathering, I will try to get rolling on putting it together
including updating the www.krgathering.org web page.

Bob Lee, are you out there?  Please set up a registration page for this
years event.  I'll go over the rest of the site and see what else needs
updating and post to you direct.  Thanks.

Larry

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Lee Parker]

How about taking a survey to see where most people live and get an average 
milege to a central location and make that the place to have the gathering?  
Wouldn't that be the fair?  You would also have to have someone to host it.

--- On Sun, 6/7/09, Mark Langford <n5...@hiwaay.net> wrote:


From: Mark Langford <n5...@hiwaay.net>
Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 8:12 AM


OK, I lied.  I haven't given up yet.  Although Dana's Key West idea really 
is pure genius, that's a long way for me, and I live in Alabama!  I have 
another plan.  I just looked through some of the old Gathering photos, and 
the ones of Red Oak Iowa (http://www.airnav.com/airport/KRDK) still remind 
me of the nice rural countryside, multiple runway airport, and great people. 
Mike Garbez and Steve Bennett put this one on, and I'm guessing that if 
others volunteer to deal with hats T-shirts and awards, that'd make things a 
lot easier on them, and they might be coerced into doing it again.  That'd 
be closer to the West Coast, near Omaha's major airport. It struck most of 
us as being a perfect place when we were there.  The nearest hotel is 2.2 
miles, and the beer store is only slightly further, and they have kegs!  The 
only way you could get any closer to the center of the country is go a 
little south to Kansas City Missouri or maybe western Kansas.

Having said all of this, I don't have a problem with going to California one 
year, but I wouldn't want it to be the only KR Gathering of the year because 
many east coast folks wouldn't be able to attend.  But as a "freebie" 
Gathering, I think that's a great idea for those who could make it.  Same 
with the other locations that volunteered.

Of course this is all somewhat hypothetical, as there has to be a vote at 
this year's Gathering on where the 2010 Gathering will be, and it's really 
anybody's game.  If somebody comes up with a better idea and we vote it in, 
that's great.  It's really up to all of this year's Gathering attendees to 
vote for where it will be next year..that's the way it's always worked.

I think I just saw three Spitfires fly over in formation, and then a DC-3 
like thing, all headed in the direction of Popham airport, so I'm outta 
here...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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[Patrick Driscoll]

Mark L. wrote

Saint Paul, MN. I just looked through some of the old Gathering photos, and
the ones of Red Oak Iowa (http://www.airnav.com/airport/KRDK) still remind
me of the nice rural countryside, multiple runway airport, and great people.
   I was also thinking of Red Oak IA. but didn't want to chime in because it 
is only 5 hours from me and it would seem like I'm being selfish.

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KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Mark Jones]

>Mark,

>Is that an invitation

>Larry Flesner





Just a thought. I have not cleared anything with the airport authority. If 
it becomes a reality, I will make a formal proposal at the Gathering


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Larry Flesner]

At 07:28 PM 6/7/2009, you wrote:
>So how would central Wisconsin KSTE http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSTE be
>for a Gathering?


Mark,

Is that an invitation

Larry Flesner

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[M]

  I do like the sounds of KSTE, maybe I can have the MISS CAROLYN in the air by 
then. So lets make Mark Jones the 2010 host! Only 950.5 miles for me.

  Mike Turner
  Edgewood NM, USA




  So how would central Wisconsin KSTE http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSTE be 
  for a Gathering? Stevens Point has a lot of great features such as cool 
  temps in Sept, an uncontrolled airport, lots of hotels, lots of beer, lots 
  of bars, uncontrolled field with a 6000' main and a 3600 runway.  


  Mark Jones (N886MJ)
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[Mark Jones]

>I like the idea or Arlington as well. I guess I do not understand the 
>issues
>people have with a bit of airplane traffic or controlled airports.  Are
>there really that many KRs that don't have radios or transponders?

There are very good reasons why we do not want to be at a controlled airport 
and here are a few:
1) We do high speed fly bys down the runway at about 50 feet off the ground.
2) Sometimes there are two or three KR's doing it at the same time.
3) Sometimes we take off as a group.
4) There are the times where people stand right next to the runway taking 
video and photos.
5) We sometimes do timed flights with the judges standing at the end of the 
runway.
6) There are upwards of 100 folks out on the ramp at any given time.
7) Then there are contests like spot landing, flour bomb drop, etc.
8) I remember Marty Roberts at Lake Barkley climbing to 3000 over the 
airport and dropping a roll of toilet paper and seeing how many times he 
could cut it before it hit the ground.

These are just some of the reasons we do not want a controlled field for a 
KR Gathering.

So how would central Wisconsin KSTE http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSTE be 
for a Gathering? Stevens Point has a lot of great features such as cool 
temps in Sept, an uncontrolled airport, lots of hotels, lots of beer, lots 
of bars, uncontrolled field with a 6000' main and a 3600 runway. Most likely 
could get one of the corporate hangers to store planes in at night. Oshkosh 
is 65 miles away for those who have never seen it and the Airventure museum. 
The Wisconsin Dells (worlds largest water park vacation spot) are 75 miles 
away for those who would like to go there before or after the Gathering. And 
for you Packer Fans Green Bay is only an hour and a half away. Anyway, just 
a thought.



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KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Larry Flesner]

>  I guess I do not understand the issues
>people have with a bit of airplane traffic or controlled airports.  Are
>there really that many KRs that don't have radios or transponders?ted
+++

Ted,

Radios, no.  Transponders, probably.

I'm guessing you've not been able to attend a KR Gathering or seen any
of the PROFESSIONAL videos that video Bob and Terry have shot at
the past Gatherings.

A KR Gathering is a "down home", "hey, look at those suckers go" ( a three
KR loose formation fly-by)  with several more KR in the pattern making solo
runs, other KR drivers giving rides to those persistent enough at "begging".
At times the KR's are all on the ramp with cowls and other panels removed
and people poking, prodding, photographing, and asking questions about
every part of the KR imaginable.

The KR Gathering is where everyone and anyone is welcome but the KR is
front and center.  The 2009 Gathering will be my 20th consecutive Gathering
and it has only gotten bigger and better over the years.  I miss the changing
locations that occurred in the past but it seems that everything came together
at Mt.Vernon and the attendees keep voting to return each year.  Personally,
I'd like to have a break from hosting (this will be my 6th consecutive year as
host) and be able to spend more time sharing my KR with the attendees.
Like every KR, mine is unique and I'd like to share some of the things I've
done with fellow builders.  My KR, different as it is , has worked well now for
350 hours.

Having the Gatherings in the central U.S. has worked well as no one has to
travel more than "half way", so to speak.  I'm sure there are many good
locations for the Gathering to take place.  We only need someone to step
up to the plate and make the invitation.  I'll gladly share the knowledge I've
gained these last five years as host.

Any takers ?

Larry Flesner

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Ted Sanders]

I like the idea or Arlington as well. I guess I do not understand the issues
people have with a bit of airplane traffic or controlled airports.  Are
there really that many KRs that don't have radios or transponders? Iv'e gone
to oshkosh and the KR guys show up for a day or two at the beginning of the
week and then are gone.  It would be fun to have some other things to look
at besides KRs (no disrespect intended, of course I would spend most my time
with you goodfellas).  At Oshkosh the KR guys stood around for a couple of
hours and dispersed anyway. just a thought, ted

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Steven Eberhart]

Dana Overall wrote:
>
> By golly if you want it in Key West, I'll host it again:-)
>
>   
Put my RSVP in for Key West and put me down for two shirts and a hat 
with the Key West logo.  Will be flying my aluminum RV but Dana and I 
will park on the other side of the tracks :-)

Steve Eberhart
RV-7A Airworthiness Inspection next Thursday :-)

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Dana Overall]

> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:33:28 -0500
> From: has...@mncable.net
Now all of the sudden, 
> there is post after post of _itching and complaining about those 
> Locations that have been offered.
> 
> You have to realize there would be a LOT of leg work and calls to be 
> made by the person Hosting to make arrangements. 
> 
> Well, Remove Northern Minnesota from the list. I do not believe I would 
> want to put that effort out for those who have commented.
> Good Luck,
> 
> Dick
> Salol, MN

Dick and Bill, you seem to have taken constructive input as a personal attack, 
that was far from my intent. If you did take it as you seem to have, please 
accept my apology as no -itching and complaining was coming from me.  Yes, I do 
realize the work involved in hosting the gathering, as I have hosted it twice.  
Also, the location is voted on and selected at the gathering.  I really don't 
think the people who fly to the gathering are tethered to their home airports 
or limited to the local treeline.  

By golly if you want it in Key West, I'll host it again:-)

No more comments from this end, I'm going flying,
> 


Dana Overall 

1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
Richmond, KY i39

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[Richard Hasbrook]

Hi Bobby, Well, I will stop at what I have said so far. The main reason 
for what is now the expired offer is that Warroad, from any place on the 
east coast is no more than 1700 miles, From the West, 1600 miles, From 
the south of Texas... 1500 miles. It equaled it out for the coast lines. 
Plus, bring Canadian Builders into the picture because we are a Port of 
Entry.

Aside from having  some of the Greatest Pike Fishing in the World for 
them folks that wish to stay on, There is always a Museum and 40 acre 
Plant of the Largest Custom Window Manufacturer in the U.S. Today. 
Polaris Plant is 20 miles to the West. Arctic Cat 60 miles south for 
those who are interested in wheels or tracks when flying is not 
possible. With that... I will say... Good Day...

Dick
Salol, MN


bobby burington wrote:
> Hey Dick ,
> I feel the same as you do , was gonna offer up central California but gald I 
> waited. Not gonna happen now 
>
>  Bobby Burington
> California KR Builder
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[bobby burington]

 > From: Richard Hasbrook 

> Well, Remove Northern Minnesota from the list. I do not
> believe I would 
> want to put that effort out for those who have commented.
> Good Luck,
> 
> Dick
> Salol, MN



Hey Dick , 
I feel the same as you do , was gonna offer up central California but gald I 
waited. Not gonna happen now. Its ok for all the US border state KR owners to 
fly to the little KR groupies home gathering but not ok for them to fly more 
than an hour to get their "rootbeer",  But you gotta remember most of these 
guys only fly circles around their home field on sundays and the farthest cross 
country they do is the last tree line you can see from the tower. If they had 
to use a chart or do flight planning for REAL cross country, they would be lost 
and scared and would never make it to your gathering anyway !.

 Bobby Burington
California KR Builder




> From: Richard Hasbrook 

> Well, Remove Northern Minnesota from the list. I do not
> believe I would 
> want to put that effort out for those who have commented.
> Good Luck,
> 
> Dick
> Salol, MN

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Mark Langford]

"Dick" wrote:

> ALL we see is Complaining about Locations, and NOT ONE 
> Thanks Guys for the Offer... It will be taken into consideration!!!

Guilty as charged.  Please accept my humblest apologies.

Over and out...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Bill Weir]

Amen! Richard.

Bill Weir
- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Hasbrook" <has...@mncable.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010


With respect for the KRNet group as a whole, I will keep this as short
as possible and NOT state my full feelings. When I offered to Host in
Northern Minnesota, there was NO limits as to what part of the country
you had to be in. (There were NO boundaries given) Same Goes for the NW,
E, and NE Coasts!! You requested information on who would be interested
in Hosting, and many of us answered that request. Now all of the sudden,
there is post after post of _itching and complaining about those
Locations that have been offered.

You have to realize there would be a LOT of leg work and calls to be
made by the person Hosting to make arrangements. To get the Grilles
around, and set aside a meeting place. To get local people to be drivers
for those who would like to go see some local sites, and transportation
to the convention site. Much time could be spent in the prep for such an
event. Yet... ALL we see is Complaining about Locations, and NOT ONE
Thanks Guys for the Offer... It will be taken into consideration!!!

Well, Remove Northern Minnesota from the list. I do not believe I would
want to put that effort out for those who have commented.
Good Luck,

Dick
Salol, MN

Mark Langford wrote:
> OK, I lied.  I haven't given up yet.  Although Dana's Key West idea really
> is pure genius, that's a long way for me, and I live in Alabama!  I have
> another plan.  I just looked through some of the old Gathering photos, and
> the ones of Red Oak Iowa (http://www.airnav.com/airport/KRDK) still remind
> me of the nice rural countryside, multiple runway airport, and great 
> people.
> Mike Garbez and Steve Bennett put this one on, and I'm guessing that if
> others volunteer to deal with hats T-shirts and awards, that'd make things 
> a
> lot easier on them, and they might be coerced into doing it again.  That'd
> be closer to the West Coast, near Omaha's major airport. It struck most of
> us as being a perfect place when we were there.  The nearest hotel is 2.2
> miles, and the beer store is only slightly further, and they have kegs! 
> The
> only way you could get any closer to the center of the country is go a
> little south to Kansas City Missouri or maybe western Kansas.
>
> Having said all of this, I don't have a problem with going to California 
> one
> year, but I wouldn't want it to be the only KR Gathering of the year 
> because
> many east coast folks wouldn't be able to attend.  But as a "freebie"
> Gathering, I think that's a great idea for those who could make it.  Same
> with the other locations that volunteered.
>
> Of course this is all somewhat hypothetical, as there has to be a vote at
> this year's Gathering on where the 2010 Gathering will be, and it's really
> anybody's game.  If somebody comes up with a better idea and we vote it 
> in,
> that's great.  It's really up to all of this year's Gathering attendees to
> vote for where it will be next year..that's the way it's always worked.
>
> I think I just saw three Spitfires fly over in formation, and then a DC-3
> like thing, all headed in the direction of Popham airport, so I'm outta
> here...
>
> Mark Langford
> N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
> website at http://www.N56ML.com
>
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[Richard Hasbrook]

With respect for the KRNet group as a whole, I will keep this as short 
as possible and NOT state my full feelings. When I offered to Host in 
Northern Minnesota, there was NO limits as to what part of the country 
you had to be in. (There were NO boundaries given) Same Goes for the NW, 
E, and NE Coasts!! You requested information on who would be interested 
in Hosting, and many of us answered that request. Now all of the sudden, 
there is post after post of _itching and complaining about those 
Locations that have been offered.

You have to realize there would be a LOT of leg work and calls to be 
made by the person Hosting to make arrangements. To get the Grilles 
around, and set aside a meeting place. To get local people to be drivers 
for those who would like to go see some local sites, and transportation 
to the convention site. Much time could be spent in the prep for such an 
event. Yet... ALL we see is Complaining about Locations, and NOT ONE 
Thanks Guys for the Offer... It will be taken into consideration!!!

Well, Remove Northern Minnesota from the list. I do not believe I would 
want to put that effort out for those who have commented.
Good Luck,

Dick
Salol, MN

Mark Langford wrote:
> OK, I lied.  I haven't given up yet.  Although Dana's Key West idea really 
> is pure genius, that's a long way for me, and I live in Alabama!  I have 
> another plan.  I just looked through some of the old Gathering photos, and 
> the ones of Red Oak Iowa (http://www.airnav.com/airport/KRDK) still remind 
> me of the nice rural countryside, multiple runway airport, and great people. 
> Mike Garbez and Steve Bennett put this one on, and I'm guessing that if 
> others volunteer to deal with hats T-shirts and awards, that'd make things a 
> lot easier on them, and they might be coerced into doing it again.  That'd 
> be closer to the West Coast, near Omaha's major airport. It struck most of 
> us as being a perfect place when we were there.  The nearest hotel is 2.2 
> miles, and the beer store is only slightly further, and they have kegs!  The 
> only way you could get any closer to the center of the country is go a 
> little south to Kansas City Missouri or maybe western Kansas.
>
> Having said all of this, I don't have a problem with going to California one 
> year, but I wouldn't want it to be the only KR Gathering of the year because 
> many east coast folks wouldn't be able to attend.  But as a "freebie" 
> Gathering, I think that's a great idea for those who could make it.  Same 
> with the other locations that volunteered.
>
> Of course this is all somewhat hypothetical, as there has to be a vote at 
> this year's Gathering on where the 2010 Gathering will be, and it's really 
> anybody's game.  If somebody comes up with a better idea and we vote it in, 
> that's great.  It's really up to all of this year's Gathering attendees to 
> vote for where it will be next year..that's the way it's always worked.
>
> I think I just saw three Spitfires fly over in formation, and then a DC-3 
> like thing, all headed in the direction of Popham airport, so I'm outta 
> here...
>
> Mark Langford
> N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
> website at http://www.N56ML.com
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[Mark Langford]

OK, I lied.  I haven't given up yet.  Although Dana's Key West idea really 
is pure genius, that's a long way for me, and I live in Alabama!  I have 
another plan.  I just looked through some of the old Gathering photos, and 
the ones of Red Oak Iowa (http://www.airnav.com/airport/KRDK) still remind 
me of the nice rural countryside, multiple runway airport, and great people. 
Mike Garbez and Steve Bennett put this one on, and I'm guessing that if 
others volunteer to deal with hats T-shirts and awards, that'd make things a 
lot easier on them, and they might be coerced into doing it again.  That'd 
be closer to the West Coast, near Omaha's major airport. It struck most of 
us as being a perfect place when we were there.  The nearest hotel is 2.2 
miles, and the beer store is only slightly further, and they have kegs!  The 
only way you could get any closer to the center of the country is go a 
little south to Kansas City Missouri or maybe western Kansas.

Having said all of this, I don't have a problem with going to California one 
year, but I wouldn't want it to be the only KR Gathering of the year because 
many east coast folks wouldn't be able to attend.  But as a "freebie" 
Gathering, I think that's a great idea for those who could make it.  Same 
with the other locations that volunteered.

Of course this is all somewhat hypothetical, as there has to be a vote at 
this year's Gathering on where the 2010 Gathering will be, and it's really 
anybody's game.  If somebody comes up with a better idea and we vote it in, 
that's great.  It's really up to all of this year's Gathering attendees to 
vote for where it will be next year..that's the way it's always worked.

I think I just saw three Spitfires fly over in formation, and then a DC-3 
like thing, all headed in the direction of Popham airport, so I'm outta 
here...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Dana Overall]

> From: n5...@hiwaay.net
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010
> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 12:47:58 -0500

> 
> But let me get this straight now...every suggestion so far has been along 
> the extreme perimeter of the country...west, northwest, north, northeast, 
> far east.  All we're missing is the tip of Florida.
> 
> So I guess I'll give up at this point, and see y'all at MVN in 2010.  I'll 
> just be content to talk Joe Horton into meeting me at various places, and 
> visiting folks like Dan Heath or John Backer...


As a former host of the 2 KR gatherings, I have to chime in on Mark's 
observation.  I have been watching this thread with interest.  Even though I do 
have a KR anymore, I do try to stay in contact with the KR crowd and attend the 
gatherings, I'll be at MVN this year.  I am sure many who have posted 
suggestions have great airports. However, they have all seemed to be on one 
coast or the other, extreme NE or extreme NW, I'm like Mark, how come someone 
hasn't chimed in with Key West yet:-)?  

The reason I held the gathering at Lake Barkley, a 1.5 hour flight west for me 
at the time, instead of my home airport, which is centrally located anyway, is 
Lake Barkley is a little further west which allowed the western people a better 
opportunity to attend while not ruling out the eastern people.  My opinion, and 
it's just mine, as I have no dog in this fight (not very PC with the Michael 
Vick thing:-) but I think you really want a more centrally located airport than 
on a coast.  If you do go with a coast location, plan on buying fewer shirt, 
hats and don't buy as much food, you will have immediately reduced the 
attendance of the gathering.  Optimal location: Midwest, away from town, 
multiple runways, large hangar, restaurant, banquet area, close to a commercial 
airport with camping.hum, sound like anyplace any of us has visited.

BTW, sorry I missed the Wings and Wheels yesterday, Elaine and I flew as a two 
ship to Columbus, OH to help supervise (never can have enough supervisors) the 
move of a friends RV-10 from the paint shop, did a little acro on the way, 
visited two graduation parties, had a great dinner and flew back just before 
sunset, in time to get home and watch a movie with a couple of tasty barley 
popsgonna fly to Texas next Friday for a three day formation 
clinich.get off this computer gang and go do something on your project, 
flying is much more fun than building!!  

Dana Overall 

1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
Richmond, KY i39

RV-7 slider "Black Magic" 
Flying..well sorta, useta, kinda
Barrett Precision O 360 A1A
Hartzell C2YR-1BFP/F7497-2 
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[Tim]

Everything is very close, I've been to em' all, like Arlington best

Closest for Alaska builders   ;-)

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott" <scottwat...@gmail.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010



I like the idea of Arlington.




On Jun 5, 2009, at 5:07 AM, "Tim" <t...@telus.net> wrote:

> Why not use the Arlington EAA Fly-injust the right size
> http://www.nweaa.org
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[Mark Langford]

If you're talking about going on the weekend that they are also having the 
big Flyin, I'm not sure that's a great idea.  First off, witnesses.  Then 
there's the diluted crowd of folks who we'll spend our time talking to, 
rather than to each other or new/other builders, and then there's the air 
traffic.  I know once I fly into OSH or SNF, I'm happy I made it in one 
piece and call it good until I fly out early in the morning on departure 
day.  Arlington's probably not nearly that bad, but I wouldn't feel like it 
was really a "KR Gathering" if there were several thousand other planes 
hoards of people there.

But let me get this straight now...every suggestion so far has been along 
the extreme perimeter of the country...west, northwest, north, northeast, 
far east.  All we're missing is the tip of Florida.

So I guess I'll give up at this point, and see y'all at MVN in 2010.  I'll 
just be content to talk Joe Horton into meeting me at various places, and 
visiting folks like Dan Heath or John Backer...

Mark Langford
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website at http://www.N56ML.com

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Scott]

I like the idea of Arlington.




On Jun 5, 2009, at 5:07 AM, "Tim"  wrote:

> Why not use the Arlington EAA Fly-injust the right size
> http://www.nweaa.org
>
>
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KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Richard Hasbrook]

Northern Minnesota... 6 Miles off the Canadian Border in Minnesota

Dick
Salol, MN

Deems Herring wrote:
> Canada
>
>
>
>
>  
>   
>> From: jsell...@keybase.com
>> To: kr...@mylist.net
>> Subject: RE: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010
>> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:37:26 -0300
>>
>> Richard;
>> Can you remind us where Lake of the Woods is located?
>> Jim
>>
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[Deems Herring]

Canada





> From: jsell...@keybase.com
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Subject: RE: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010
> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:37:26 -0300
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> Richard;
> Can you remind us where Lake of the Woods is located?
> Jim
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[Mark Langford]

> Can you remind us where Lake of the Woods is located?

See http://www.airnav.com/airport/KRRT .  If you haven't discovered 
www.airnav.com , it's the way I plan regarding airports that I'm flying 
into.

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website: www.N56ML.com 

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Jim Sellars]

Richard;
Can you remind us where Lake of the Woods is located?
Jim

James E. Sellars, B.A., (Econ.), CFP

International Financial Planner

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-Original Message-
From: Richard Hasbrook [mailto:has...@mncable.net] 
Sent: June 5, 2009 7:20 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

I will throw in the Possibility of Warroad, MN On the SW Shore of 
Lake of the Woods... But will have to do some checking first with the 
local Chapter and Airport Manager. I do not think Camping space would be 
a problem, Meeting site has possibilities, but Hangers are rather 
full... tie down only. A Casino, and 3 fair Motels 1 mile away from 
Airport. If there is interest, I will need time to check it out take 
care

Dick
Salol, MN

Mark Langford wrote:
> So that's it?  California, New Hampshire, or South Carolina?  The far 
> extremes of the country?  I'm sure those places are great, but it'd be
nice 
> if the location was a little more convenient to the majority of attendees.

> Nobody else closer to the middle of the country is interested in hosting
the 
> Gathering?
>
> Otherwise, all three of these places sound good enough for me.  We still 
> need to get a mass KR "fly-out" to the West organized sometime, and
Steve's 
> airport at Corona sounds fine for that.  That's 1760 miles for me, which 
> would take 12 hours of flying, 50 gallons of fuel one way, with at least 
> four fuel stops along the way.  Maybe I need to add that extra wing tank 
> first.  And we wonder why the west coast guys don't show up every year...
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
> mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
> website: www.N56ML.com 
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[Tim]

Why not use the Arlington EAA Fly-injust the right size
http://www.nweaa.org

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Richard Hasbrook]

I will throw in the Possibility of Warroad, MN On the SW Shore of 
Lake of the Woods... But will have to do some checking first with the 
local Chapter and Airport Manager. I do not think Camping space would be 
a problem, Meeting site has possibilities, but Hangers are rather 
full... tie down only. A Casino, and 3 fair Motels 1 mile away from 
Airport. If there is interest, I will need time to check it out take 
care

Dick
Salol, MN

Mark Langford wrote:
> So that's it?  California, New Hampshire, or South Carolina?  The far 
> extremes of the country?  I'm sure those places are great, but it'd be nice 
> if the location was a little more convenient to the majority of attendees. 
> Nobody else closer to the middle of the country is interested in hosting the 
> Gathering?
>
> Otherwise, all three of these places sound good enough for me.  We still 
> need to get a mass KR "fly-out" to the West organized sometime, and Steve's 
> airport at Corona sounds fine for that.  That's 1760 miles for me, which 
> would take 12 hours of flying, 50 gallons of fuel one way, with at least 
> four fuel stops along the way.  Maybe I need to add that extra wing tank 
> first.  And we wonder why the west coast guys don't show up every year...
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
> mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
> website: www.N56ML.com 
>
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KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Mark Langford]

So that's it?  California, New Hampshire, or South Carolina?  The far 
extremes of the country?  I'm sure those places are great, but it'd be nice 
if the location was a little more convenient to the majority of attendees. 
Nobody else closer to the middle of the country is interested in hosting the 
Gathering?

Otherwise, all three of these places sound good enough for me.  We still 
need to get a mass KR "fly-out" to the West organized sometime, and Steve's 
airport at Corona sounds fine for that.  That's 1760 miles for me, which 
would take 12 hours of flying, 50 gallons of fuel one way, with at least 
four fuel stops along the way.  Maybe I need to add that extra wing tank 
first.  And we wonder why the west coast guys don't show up every year...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website: www.N56ML.com 

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[airgu...@comcast.net]

That would make sense; Hampton is 7B3 and the runway is 2100'. Camping of the 
field happens during the annual flymarket weekend so I don't know why it would 
be different any other time. We also have PSM in Portsmouth, a ANG (KC135) base 
11,321 X 150 near a Mt Vernon sized city. Lots of Lobsta' for those that like. 



Paul 

Derry, NH 



- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net> 
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 10:54:13 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010 

airgu...@comcast.net wrote: 

> Would anyone consider a grass (ok, with some pebbles) strip about 2800'. 
> Loads of vintage ac, EAA antique chapter on the firld as well as a full up 
> restaurant. Couple of miles from the beach (complete with arcades and 
> shoportinities). 

A clue as to where this is (the airport identifier if there is one) would be 
nice.  I think grass would be a good experience for a lot of folks.  A 2800' 
grass strip is probably equivatlent to a 3600' paved strip, depending on how 
tall the grass is.  Although it would be nice, I'm not sure that inside 
hangar storage would be imperative.  After all, we leave them outside for 
days at SNF and OSH every year. 

I forgot to mention camping in my first message.  Camping on the field would 
be very good.  A lot of folks have grown quite fond of it, spoiled by MVN's 
camping area with the pond/swimming hole. 

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL 
mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net 
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[airgu...@comcast.net]

They do have 1 large hangar, numerous t-hangers, and some private hangers. I am 
not connected with this airport, just fly there. 



Paul 

Derry, NH 



- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" <da...@windstream.net> 
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 9:06:37 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: RE: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010 

What about overnight aircraft hangar space? 

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics  
See you at the 2009 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Ill 
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying 
has begun. 
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC 


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Of airgu...@comcast.net 
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:59 AM 
To: KRnet 
Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering location, 2010 

Would anyone consider a grass (ok, with some pebbles) strip about 2800'. 
Loads of vintage ac, EAA antique chapter on the firld as well as a full up 
restaurant. Couple of miles from the beach (complete with arcades and 
shoportinities). 




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[n92...@cox.net]

If anyone is interested in a trek to California I could check in to what 
accomodations I can come up with at Corona (AJO). Nice uncontrolled field. Real 
homey but not as big as Mt. Vernon. 3200' runway. Fairly close to everything So 
Cal has to offer for entertainment for the families or spouses. 

Steve Glover
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Sent: Jun 2, 2009 7:54 AM

airgu...@comcast.net wrote:

> Would anyone consider a grass (ok, with some pebbles) strip about 2800'. 
> Loads of vintage ac, EAA antique chapter on the firld as well as a full up 
> restaurant. Couple of miles from the beach (complete with arcades and 
> shoportinities).

A clue as to where this is (the airport identifier if there is one) would be 
nice.  I think grass would be a good experience for a lot of folks.  A 2800' 
grass strip is probably equivatlent to a 3600' paved strip, depending on how 
tall the grass is.  Although it would be nice, I'm not sure that inside 
hangar storage would be imperative.  After all, we leave them outside for 
days at SNF and OSH every year.

I forgot to mention camping in my first message.  Camping on the field would 
be very good.  A lot of folks have grown quite fond of it, spoiled by MVN's 
camping area with the pond/swimming hole.

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
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KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Mark Langford]

airgu...@comcast.net wrote:

> Would anyone consider a grass (ok, with some pebbles) strip about 2800'. 
> Loads of vintage ac, EAA antique chapter on the firld as well as a full up 
> restaurant. Couple of miles from the beach (complete with arcades and 
> shoportinities).

A clue as to where this is (the airport identifier if there is one) would be 
nice.  I think grass would be a good experience for a lot of folks.  A 2800' 
grass strip is probably equivatlent to a 3600' paved strip, depending on how 
tall the grass is.  Although it would be nice, I'm not sure that inside 
hangar storage would be imperative.  After all, we leave them outside for 
days at SNF and OSH every year.

I forgot to mention camping in my first message.  Camping on the field would 
be very good.  A lot of folks have grown quite fond of it, spoiled by MVN's 
camping area with the pond/swimming hole.

Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
website: www.N56ML.com

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Larry Flesner]

At 07:59 AM 6/2/2009, you wrote:
>Would anyone consider a grass (ok, with some pebbles) strip about 2800'.
+++

That depends.  Just where is this strip located and would it be possible to
"flag" some of those pebbles so we could avoid them.  I'd hate to have to
buy a new prop. :-)

Larry Flesner

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Larry Flesner]

At 05:31 PM 6/1/2009, you wrote:
>I'm guessing that Larry Flesner would like just sit back in a lawn 
>chair and watch the KRs go by next year.  Think about it...
>
>Mark Langford
+

Mark and I discussed this issue on the phone and I told him that it would not
hurt my feelings whatsoever if the location changed.  This years Gathering will
be my 20th consecutive Gathering and host for the last five years, year six
coming up.  I drove or flew to 13 Gatherings before my KR was completed and
since completion I've made the 20 mile trip to Mt.Vernon each 
year.  I too would
like to fly to a new location.  It might mean missing a Gathering for 
weather, etc.,
but I would probably drive in that case.  I'd hate to break a 20 year string.

I can't begin to thank everyone for the GREAT support, both physically and
financially, that everyone has given while I've been hosting the Gathering.
Mt.Vernon has a great facility and the support from Chris Collins and staff,
as well as the FBO, has been over the top.  Chris would like to
see us make Mt.Vernon the permanent home for the Gathering but we
must make the wishes of the attendees our number one priority.  Change
is sometimes good, even if it just makes us appreciate what we had.

If someone wishes to host the 2010 Gathering at a different location I will
give them my complete support on planning and hosting the Gathering.
Just do your homework and make your invitation known to the group.
Just one thing.  I would appreciate a nice shade tree to set under while
I watch the KR's doing their fly-bys. :-)

Till then, I'll see you at Mt.Vernon.

Larry Flesner

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[airgu...@comcast.net]

Would anyone consider a grass (ok, with some pebbles) strip about 2800'. Loads 
of vintage ac, EAA antique chapter on the firld as well as a full up 
restaurant. Couple of miles from the beach (complete with arcades and 
shoportinities).




00 

KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Scott]

How about chino, ca?


On Jun 1, 2009, at 11:04 PM, "Jeff Scott"  wrote:

> I have to say, I was really looking forward to a gathering in  
> Granada, MS and was disappointed when it was turned down.  I like  
> the idea of doing Mt Vernon every other year, or maybe I should say  
> flying somewhere other than Mt vernon every second or third year.   
> Larry and Chris do a great job and set the bar very high, but I'd  
> like to travel to some other places as well.  The challenge is to  
> find people towards the middle of the country willing to host a  
> Gathering.
>
> We could do a Los Alamos (KLAM) Gathering.  It has all the  
> benefits.  A one way airport with the West end of the runway right  
> against a housing area, no overflights, no go arounds, no touch and  
> goes, restricted area (R-5101) at the South airport boundary, field  
> elevation of 7200', density altitude during September is usually 9 -  
> 10,000', no hangar space (other than my hangar), no FBO, and the  
> main highway into town is right next to the runway so every little  
> incident involves a phone call to the police followed by a phone  
> call to the FAA.  Yeah, this place should be ideal!  Actually, this  
> place makes me really look forward to retiring and leaving it behind.
>
> OK, surely somebody (or everybody) flies from a better airport than  
> this.  So how about some proposals?  I'm anxious to travel to  
> someplace different.
>
> -Jeff Scott
> Los Alamos, NM
>
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[Jeff Scott]

I have to say, I was really looking forward to a gathering in Granada, MS and 
was disappointed when it was turned down.  I like the idea of doing Mt Vernon 
every other year, or maybe I should say flying somewhere other than Mt vernon 
every second or third year.  Larry and Chris do a great job and set the bar 
very high, but I'd like to travel to some other places as well.  The challenge 
is to find people towards the middle of the country willing to host a 
Gathering.  

We could do a Los Alamos (KLAM) Gathering.  It has all the benefits.  A one way 
airport with the West end of the runway right against a housing area, no 
overflights, no go arounds, no touch and goes, restricted area (R-5101) at the 
South airport boundary, field elevation of 7200', density altitude during 
September is usually 9 - 10,000', no hangar space (other than my hangar), no 
FBO, and the main highway into town is right next to the runway so every little 
incident involves a phone call to the police followed by a phone call to the 
FAA.  Yeah, this place should be ideal!  Actually, this place makes me really 
look forward to retiring and leaving it behind.

OK, surely somebody (or everybody) flies from a better airport than this.  So 
how about some proposals?  I'm anxious to travel to someplace different.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM


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KR> KR Gathering location, 2010

[Mark Langford]

KRnetHeads,

I've been thinking for a couple of years now that while Mount Vernon is a great 
place for the KR Gathering (there may be no better place), I miss going 
somewhere different.  I wouldn never have gone to Red Oak Iowa, Pine Bluff 
Arkansas, Perry Oklahoma, Lake Barkley Kentucky, Covington Tennesse, or 
Columbia Tennesee if we hadn't moved around every year.  Given that Mount 
Vernon really is perfect, and Larry does a job that's probably impossible to 
top as far as running it goes, can we accept that maybe we ought to mix it up a 
little, and maybe move it every other year to somewhere else, but go back to 
Mount Vernon every OTHER year rather than EVERY year?  

This would give Larry and Chris a well-deserved break, get us a little closer 
to folks in other places that aren't quite as close to Illinois an opportunity 
to attend (although I know if you're a real KRhead you'll drive whatever it 
takes), and more importantly, break up the monotony!  I talked to Scottish KR 
bilder/pilot Willie Wilson (G-DGWW) the other day, and he lamented it's been 
three years since he attended a Gathering, partially because having it in the 
same place has taken some of the shine off of it.  Back when we moved it every 
other year, he had the opportunity to visit a different part of the country 
every time he came to the US, whereas now he goes to the same old place, stays 
at the same hotel, etc. 

So here's what I'm asking.  Would somebody please volunteer to host the 
Gathering NEXT year?  I can't do it because my airport is "private" and it's 
not legal to fly in if you are not an owner (or part owner, as in stockholder). 
  Wayne from Mississippi volunteered to host it a few years ago (twice), but 
died before we allowed him to do it.  I'm sure there are others who would like 
the opportunity to put their airport on the KR map. The requisites are that the 
airport has to be uncontrolled (or the controller is blind and deaf), somewhat 
out of town so the FBO doesn't get alot of complaints or has good neighbors, 
food has to be brought in (a big grille and burgers will work), someplace for 
the banquet is good (although I've enjoyed the ones in the hangar at Pine Bluff 
and Mount Vernon), inside storage at night for the KR's is a big plus, and the 
host has to do all of the organization.  Support from an EAA chapter would be 
helpful, and local church or high school band groups often have fund-raising 
efforts that will do the cooking for you.  H...I may have just killed it 
right there!  But it never hurts to dream.  

As an example of what you can do, Dana Overall hosted one at Lake Barkley and 
that was a very long way from where he lived, yet it was still a great success. 
I'm guessing that Larry Flesner would like just sit back in a lawn chair and 
watch the KRs go by next year.  Think about it...

Mark Langford
"variety is the spice of lifesheep AND goats..."
N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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KR> Gathering location

[Lee Van Dyke]

Amen,,, the dream is god

- Original Message - 
From: "Larry H." <lah...@yahoo.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Gathering location


>I wish we could take a C5a with all the krs loaded in plus all our bodies, 
>fly to Johns place, take our own hangar with us, eat Johns cows and fly krs 
>around. What could be better ? Oh well a guy can dream can't he ?
>  Larry H.
>
> Bavo <baving...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  I've got an 800 metre grass strip on my place, and enough beef on the 
> hoof
> to ensure there's a prime rib for everyone, even Larry. And it's only 
> 14DME
> from Melbourne Intl for those who don't want to bring thier own KR!
> What more could you ask for?
>
> John Bavington
> Secretary SAAA Chapter 20
> P.O.Box 759 Sunbury 3429.
> http://www.saaa.com/
>
> http://au.geocities.com/johnbavington
>
>
> On 8/7/06, Mark Langford wrote:
>>
>> Maybe there's a little room for compromise here. I don't think anybody
>> can
>> complain about the venue that Larry and Chris have provided at MVN. It's
>> hard to imagine how it could be much better. But I also think there's
>> something to be said for the adventure of going to a new airport, and
>> giving
>> somebody else the chance to make me say "wow...this is a neat part of the
>> country", or "what a great Gathering that was!". Would you want to miss
>> the
>> great "Colorado Springs Gathering of '08"? No way! Or maybe San Antonio
>> or Ohio, or Wisconsin or MN? We could conceivably do it one year at MVN
>> and
>> the next somewhere "strange", still by secret ballot vote at the banquet,
>> of
>> course. Although there's something to be said for the traditional
>> "banquet
>> pitch", you have to admit that it makes more sense to kick it around on
>> the
>> internet weeks in advance so people have a chance to investigate, run it
>> by
>> family members, think about it some, point out pluses or minuses to
>> others,
>> or whatever. Maybe this is the best of both worlds... I don't know.
>>
>> I also feel like the west coast guys are getting a raw deal. It's great
>> that Lee, Steve, Jeff, Richard, and Rich fly all the way out here to the
>> Gatherings, but I'd love to have a year where we all fly to Jeff Scott's
>> field in New Mexico to see what a density altitude of 9500' is like. And
>> I"ll bet there are a bunch of west coast KRs that we've never even seen
>> before. If we had a Gathering out there and brought in some new ones,
>> maybe
>> they would come to MVN the next year. Or maybe we need to start cooking
>> up
>> "KR Karavan" trips in the Spring just to get out and get together
>> somewhere,
>> like Joe Horton and I did in West Viginia one day.
>>
>> Just another angle on the Gathering thing. I'd volunteer to have one at
>> my
>> father's farm (which I visited today), but I'm a little worried that
>> somebody would roll one up in a ball down there...
>>
>> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
>> see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
>> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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KR> Future KR Gathering location

[Dan Heath]

---Original Message---
One other thought I'll throw out this one time and then not
again.  Chris Collins, the airport manager, and the community of Mt.Vernon,
would like to see the KR
Gathering return to MVN every year.  That decision will be made by
those attending the Gathering and voted on Saturday night at the banquet.

My Biased and emotionally charged opinion

The KR community has had a long standing tradition of NOT, having the
gathering at a given location, more than two consecutive years.  At least
that was my understanding, until last year, when, without notice, that
tradition was broken.  

To vote on continuing to conduct the gathering at the current location, is
and was, sort of like "stacking the deck", in that, the closer people live
to that gathering location, the easier it is for them to get to the
gathering.  I know that I would not have driven to Pine Bluff or Red Oak
more than twice, even though they were both excellent locations and the
hosts did an excellent job.

Needless to say, after printing brochures and presenting a gathering
location for 3 years, only to have the rules changed at the last minute, was
very disappointing to me, and I seriously doubt that I will ever be involved
with hosting a gathering again.   Wayne Williams brought his family to the
gathering along with a slide presentation to show the attendees what they
might expect at the proposed gathering location, only to get shot down from
behind.  He and I both knew that we had a very good shot at getting the
gathering to be at Grenada, and if there were no other presenters, then we
knew that it would definitely be Grenada in 2006.  This KR community has
never before had that much preparation go into the proposal for the next
gathering, and it may never happen again.

Mt Vernon is an excellent location, Larry was a fantastic, if not the best,
host that we have ever had. It is flattering and an honor for the KR
community to have the support of the town and airport manager of Mt. Vernon.
 If the tradition of moving to different locations were to be changed to a
fixed location, I think that decision should either be made by the entire KR
community, or it should be done at a location other than at the proposed
fixed location. 

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building
is OVER.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

KR> Future KR Gathering location

[Pat Driscoll]

Dan,
   As you said, This is a "proposed" option. If you want the gathering to go to 
Grenada, then you must attend this gathering to make your point and to vote 
against the proposal to keep it at Mount Vernon. I myself would like to see it 
moved around.
Pat Driscoll
Saint Paul, MN 
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KR> Future KR Gathering location

[Bob Glidden]

When are you going to have as big a group together at one time other then 
the gathering.It is nice to see other airport,but I think one of the big 
factors discussed last year about Grenada was the weather at that time of 
year(Hurricane season) and being able to hanger them all if the weather did 
come up.And this is in no way trying to get everyone to vote one way or the 
other.I think we should take a hour or so on Saturday when the most people 
are there and decide what everyone would like to do.Just KR guy's and 
gal's.I really hate to see this debated on the net,because it will go on for 
ever.Like the current emails about diets,my KR don't need a diet.

Bob Glidden
Eminence,Indiana
KR2S N181FW (building)
Corvair 110
glid...@ccrtc.com 

KR> Gathering location

[Larry Flesner]

At 01:16 PM 8/6/2006, you wrote:
The KR community has had a long standing tradition of NOT, having the
gathering at a given location, more than two consecutive years.  At least
that was my understanding, until last year, when, without notice, that
tradition was broken.
>Daniel R. Heath
+++

Dan and KR community,

I appreciate you kind remarks on my hosting of the Gathering and
I apologize if you or Wayne Williams felt "shot down
from behind".  Wayne gave a very good presentation on what
his location had to offer.

Having attended the past 16 Gatherings, I think the primary reason
the "tradition" of moving the Gathering each year or two got started
was because no one wanted to host the event more than one
or two years in a row.  I was not fond of the idea of hosting the Gathering
again this year but when the vote was taken I agreed to do so with the
help of Chris Collins, the airport manager.  It has also been the "tradition"
to vote on next years location at the Saturday night awards banquet.

Personally, I like the idea of the Gathering changing locations every few
years so that more / different people feel they can attend and for those
regular attendees to see some new scenery.  I attended every Gathering
during the thirteen years of construction, sometimes driving as much as
ten hours to get there, only to fly 20 miles to the Gathering when I got mine
finished.  How's that for a kick in the head?  Again, on a personal note, I'd
prefer not to have hosting duties so I could have more time to "enjoy" the
Gathering and spend more time flying and socializing with the attendees.

I know that Chris Collins is excited about the Gathering and is working hard
to make it as enjoyable as possible for everyone.  He wants to see activity
at his airport and the city of Mt.Vernon.  He respects the KR group and enjoys
spending time with those attending.  However, the Gathering is not for
Chris but the KR community.  They are the ones to decide where and
when they want to get together.  I do feel that the vote of those 
participating
(attending) should carry the most weight in any decision made.  It won't
and can't be convenient for everyone but there are those that fly and drive
from all parts of the country, year after year, to attend.  It is 
their dedication
that keeps the event going.

This is my attempt to put perspective on the subject and let everyone know
that I really don't have a horse in this race.  I know Chris will be making his
pitch to have the Gathering return and will be disappointed if you chose to
change locations.  It is, however, your event and your decision to make.
Anyone willing to host the event should come ready to convince those attending
that they need to come to their airport and their community next year
with the realization that only one location will be selected.  Now, how many
more day till the Gathering???

With all that said I intend to eat supper and then go blow the dust of the KR.

YEEE H;;;

Larry Flesner

KR> Gathering location

[Lee Van Dyke]

I don't really care, where the gathering is.  I can't host it in PHX, and 
will have to fly antwhere to get to the gathering.  I just want PRIME RIB 
when its my turn in the friggin line.  I was tired of chicken.

Lee Van Dyke


- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Flesner" <fles...@verizon.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 3:15 PM
Subject: KR> Gathering location


>
> At 01:16 PM 8/6/2006, you wrote:
> The KR community has had a long standing tradition of NOT, having the
> gathering at a given location, more than two consecutive years.  At least
> that was my understanding, until last year, when, without notice, that
> tradition was broken.
>>Daniel R. Heath
> +++
>
> Dan and KR community,
>
> I appreciate you kind remarks on my hosting of the Gathering and
> I apologize if you or Wayne Williams felt "shot down
> from behind".  Wayne gave a very good presentation on what
> his location had to offer.
>
> Having attended the past 16 Gatherings, I think the primary reason
> the "tradition" of moving the Gathering each year or two got started
> was because no one wanted to host the event more than one
> or two years in a row.  I was not fond of the idea of hosting the 
> Gathering
> again this year but when the vote was taken I agreed to do so with the
> help of Chris Collins, the airport manager.  It has also been the 
> "tradition"
> to vote on next years location at the Saturday night awards banquet.
>
> Personally, I like the idea of the Gathering changing locations every few
> years so that more / different people feel they can attend and for those
> regular attendees to see some new scenery.  I attended every Gathering
> during the thirteen years of construction, sometimes driving as much as
> ten hours to get there, only to fly 20 miles to the Gathering when I got 
> mine
> finished.  How's that for a kick in the head?  Again, on a personal note, 
> I'd
> prefer not to have hosting duties so I could have more time to "enjoy" the
> Gathering and spend more time flying and socializing with the attendees.
>
> I know that Chris Collins is excited about the Gathering and is working 
> hard
> to make it as enjoyable as possible for everyone.  He wants to see 
> activity
> at his airport and the city of Mt.Vernon.  He respects the KR group and 
> enjoys
> spending time with those attending.  However, the Gathering is not for
> Chris but the KR community.  They are the ones to decide where and
> when they want to get together.  I do feel that the vote of those
> participating
> (attending) should carry the most weight in any decision made.  It won't
> and can't be convenient for everyone but there are those that fly and 
> drive
> from all parts of the country, year after year, to attend.  It is
> their dedication
> that keeps the event going.
>
> This is my attempt to put perspective on the subject and let everyone know
> that I really don't have a horse in this race.  I know Chris will be 
> making his
> pitch to have the Gathering return and will be disappointed if you chose 
> to
> change locations.  It is, however, your event and your decision to make.
> Anyone willing to host the event should come ready to convince those 
> attending
> that they need to come to their airport and their community next year
> with the realization that only one location will be selected.  Now, how 
> many
> more day till the Gathering???
>
> With all that said I intend to eat supper and then go blow the dust of the 
> KR.
>
> YEEE H;;;
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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KR> Gathering location

[Mark Jones]

Yep, Lee I agree with you. Someone ate my prime rib too. There were some 
folks who took two helpings and you know who you are. Maybe those folks will 
buy our  banquet tickets for us this year.


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Visit my web site: www.flykr2s.com
E-mail: flyk...@wi.rr.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Lee Van Dyke" <l...@vandyke5.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Gathering location


>I don't really care, where the gathering is.  I can't host it in PHX, and
> will have to fly antwhere to get to the gathering.  I just want PRIME RIB
> when its my turn in the friggin line.  I was tired of chicken.
>
> Lee Van Dyke
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Larry Flesner" <fles...@verizon.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 3:15 PM
> Subject: KR> Gathering location
>
>
>>
>> At 01:16 PM 8/6/2006, you wrote:
>> The KR community has had a long standing tradition of NOT, having the
>> gathering at a given location, more than two consecutive years.  At least
>> that was my understanding, until last year, when, without notice, that
>> tradition was broken.
>>>Daniel R. Heath
>> +++
>>
>> Dan and KR community,
>>
>> I appreciate you kind remarks on my hosting of the Gathering and
>> I apologize if you or Wayne Williams felt "shot down
>> from behind".  Wayne gave a very good presentation on what
>> his location had to offer.
>>
>> Having attended the past 16 Gatherings, I think the primary reason
>> the "tradition" of moving the Gathering each year or two got started
>> was because no one wanted to host the event more than one
>> or two years in a row.  I was not fond of the idea of hosting the
>> Gathering
>> again this year but when the vote was taken I agreed to do so with the
>> help of Chris Collins, the airport manager.  It has also been the
>> "tradition"
>> to vote on next years location at the Saturday night awards banquet.
>>
>> Personally, I like the idea of the Gathering changing locations every few
>> years so that more / different people feel they can attend and for those
>> regular attendees to see some new scenery.  I attended every Gathering
>> during the thirteen years of construction, sometimes driving as much as
>> ten hours to get there, only to fly 20 miles to the Gathering when I got
>> mine
>> finished.  How's that for a kick in the head?  Again, on a personal note,
>> I'd
>> prefer not to have hosting duties so I could have more time to "enjoy" 
>> the
>> Gathering and spend more time flying and socializing with the attendees.
>>
>> I know that Chris Collins is excited about the Gathering and is working
>> hard
>> to make it as enjoyable as possible for everyone.  He wants to see
>> activity
>> at his airport and the city of Mt.Vernon.  He respects the KR group and
>> enjoys
>> spending time with those attending.  However, the Gathering is not for
>> Chris but the KR community.  They are the ones to decide where and
>> when they want to get together.  I do feel that the vote of those
>> participating
>> (attending) should carry the most weight in any decision made.  It won't
>> and can't be convenient for everyone but there are those that fly and
>> drive
>> from all parts of the country, year after year, to attend.  It is
>> their dedication
>> that keeps the event going.
>>
>> This is my attempt to put perspective on the subject and let everyone 
>> know
>> that I really don't have a horse in this race.  I know Chris will be
>> making his
>> pitch to have the Gathering return and will be disappointed if you chose
>> to
>> change locations.  It is, however, your event and your decision to make.
>> Anyone willing to host the event should come ready to convince those
>> attending
>> that they need to come to their airport and their community next year
>> with the realization that only one location will be selected.  Now, how
>> many
>> more day till the Gathering???
>>
>> With all that said I intend to eat supper and then go blow the dust of 
>> the
>> KR.
>>
>> YEEE H;;;
>>
>> Larry Flesner
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
>
>
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KR> Gathering location

[Mark Jones]

Flame away guys but I am going to tell it like it is about last years 
decision.

Last year I voted to keep the Gathering at MVN and I will most likely do 
so again this year unless someone can really put on a good presentation as 
to why we should have it at another location. I am going to step up here and 
honestly have to say that Wayne Williams shot himself down with his 
presentation. After the first five minutes of the slide show, folks were 
grimacing and squirming in their seats and after fifteen minutes of looking 
at wildlife, trees, scenery, etc... people were looking for a nice way to 
ask for the presentation to be ended. A presentation should be to the point, 
concise, informative and not drawn out to the point of some folks actually 
leaving the room. We want to know about the airport,  we want to know about 
flying around the airport, what we can do in the air and what we can't do 
and where our planes will be parked and what services they have for us.  We 
want to know how the gathering will be managed. What forums will be 
presented and what the banquet facilities are. Will there be food and 
refreshments at the airport or will it be off airport only. Tell us about 
the lodging and a little about the town. Most of us don't care if there are 
casinos, river rides, tours, ball room dances, theaters, etc.. A true KR 
enthusiast will spend his or her entire day and night at the airport. After 
all, that is what we are there for, Right?
I also think that if the Gathering stays in a fairly central location 
and managed as an annual event by the airport, along with the city's 
support, the Gathering will grow each year. People will get used to the 
location, they will get used to the airport, they will get used to the time 
and will start making this an annual pilgrimage. Right now MVN is a short 3 
hour flight for me but I am moving next summer two hours farther north up 
the state of Wisconsin so it will be farther for me to fly to the Gathering 
in 2007 regardless of where the Gathering winds up.
Now, that being said, I am a committed KR enthusiast and will fly to the 
Gathering no matter where it is and if my plane is not up to it, I will fly 
commercial or drive there. The comments made above are not to degrade, 
insult, or hurt anyone's feelings. I hope there will be some optional 
locations presented so that we can still have a vote as to where the 
gathering will be held. After all, was the vote not taken last year? And was 
not MVN the winner by a landslide. If Chris wants to keep us at MVN then he 
must pitch the winning presentation. The votes at the gathering used to be 
done with a raising of hands but last year the vote was by secrete ballot 
which I feel should be the case again this year.
The sad thing is that no matter where the Gathering is, there will 
always be someone unhappy about it.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Visit my web site: www.flykr2s.com
E-mail: flyk...@wi.rr.com 

KR> Gathering location

[Mark Langford]

Maybe there's a little room for compromise here.  I don't think anybody can 
complain about the venue that Larry and Chris have provided at MVN.  It's 
hard to imagine how it could be much better.  But I also think there's 
something to be said for the adventure of going to a new airport, and giving 
somebody else the chance to make me say "wow...this is a neat part of the 
country", or "what a great Gathering that was!".  Would you want to miss the 
great "Colorado Springs Gathering of '08"?  No way!   Or maybe San Antonio 
or Ohio, or Wisconsin or MN?  We could conceivably do it one year at MVN and 
the next somewhere "strange", still by secret ballot vote at the banquet, of 
course.  Although there's something to be said for the traditional "banquet 
pitch", you have to admit that it makes more sense to kick it around on the 
internet weeks in advance so people have a chance to investigate, run it by 
family members, think about it some, point out pluses or minuses to others, 
or whatever.  Maybe this is the best of both worlds... I don't know.

I also feel like the west coast guys are getting a raw deal.  It's great 
that Lee, Steve, Jeff, Richard, and Rich fly all the way out here to the 
Gatherings, but I'd love to have a year where we all fly to Jeff Scott's 
field in New Mexico to see what a density altitude of 9500' is like.  And 
I"ll bet there are a bunch of west coast KRs that we've never even seen 
before.  If we had a Gathering out there and brought in some new ones, maybe 
they would come to MVN the next year.  Or maybe we need to start cooking up 
"KR Karavan" trips in the Spring just to get out and get together somewhere, 
like Joe Horton and I did in West Viginia one day.

Just another angle on the Gathering thing.  I'd volunteer to have one at my 
father's farm (which I visited today), but I'm a little worried that 
somebody would roll one up in a ball down there...

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net

KR> Gathering location

[Bavo]

I've got an 800 metre grass strip on my place, and enough beef on the hoof
to ensure there's a prime rib for everyone, even Larry. And it's only 14DME
from Melbourne Intl for those who don't want to bring thier own KR!
What more could you ask for?

John Bavington
Secretary SAAA Chapter 20
P.O.Box 759 Sunbury 3429.
http://www.saaa.com/

http://au.geocities.com/johnbavington


On 8/7/06, Mark Langford  wrote:
>
> Maybe there's a little room for compromise here.  I don't think anybody
> can
> complain about the venue that Larry and Chris have provided at MVN.  It's
> hard to imagine how it could be much better.  But I also think there's
> something to be said for the adventure of going to a new airport, and
> giving
> somebody else the chance to make me say "wow...this is a neat part of the
> country", or "what a great Gathering that was!".  Would you want to miss
> the
> great "Colorado Springs Gathering of '08"?  No way!   Or maybe San Antonio
> or Ohio, or Wisconsin or MN?  We could conceivably do it one year at MVN
> and
> the next somewhere "strange", still by secret ballot vote at the banquet,
> of
> course.  Although there's something to be said for the traditional
> "banquet
> pitch", you have to admit that it makes more sense to kick it around on
> the
> internet weeks in advance so people have a chance to investigate, run it
> by
> family members, think about it some, point out pluses or minuses to
> others,
> or whatever.  Maybe this is the best of both worlds... I don't know.
>
> I also feel like the west coast guys are getting a raw deal.  It's great
> that Lee, Steve, Jeff, Richard, and Rich fly all the way out here to the
> Gatherings, but I'd love to have a year where we all fly to Jeff Scott's
> field in New Mexico to see what a density altitude of 9500' is like.  And
> I"ll bet there are a bunch of west coast KRs that we've never even seen
> before.  If we had a Gathering out there and brought in some new ones,
> maybe
> they would come to MVN the next year.  Or maybe we need to start cooking
> up
> "KR Karavan" trips in the Spring just to get out and get together
> somewhere,
> like Joe Horton and I did in West Viginia one day.
>
> Just another angle on the Gathering thing.  I'd volunteer to have one at
> my
> father's farm (which I visited today), but I'm a little worried that
> somebody would roll one up in a ball down there...
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
>
>
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KR> Gathering location

[M & C]

You got my vote. I always did want to see down under.

Mike Turner
Jackson Mo
Swing the prop and light the fire, dance amoung the stars.N642MC

- Original Message - 
From: "Bavo" <baving...@gmail.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Gathering location


> I've got an 800 metre grass strip on my place, and enough beef on the hoof
> to ensure there's a prime rib for everyone, even Larry. And it's only 
> 14DME
> from Melbourne Intl for those who don't want to bring thier own KR!
> What more could you ask for?
>
> John Bavington
> Secretary SAAA Chapter 20
> P.O.Box 759 Sunbury 3429.

KR> Gathering location

[Larry H.]

I wish we could take a C5a with all the krs loaded in plus all our bodies, fly 
to Johns place, take our own hangar with us, eat Johns cows and fly krs around. 
What could be better ? Oh well a guy can dream can't he ?
  Larry H.

Bavo  wrote:
  I've got an 800 metre grass strip on my place, and enough beef on the hoof
to ensure there's a prime rib for everyone, even Larry. And it's only 14DME
from Melbourne Intl for those who don't want to bring thier own KR!
What more could you ask for?

John Bavington
Secretary SAAA Chapter 20
P.O.Box 759 Sunbury 3429.
http://www.saaa.com/

http://au.geocities.com/johnbavington


On 8/7/06, Mark Langford wrote:
>
> Maybe there's a little room for compromise here. I don't think anybody
> can
> complain about the venue that Larry and Chris have provided at MVN. It's
> hard to imagine how it could be much better. But I also think there's
> something to be said for the adventure of going to a new airport, and
> giving
> somebody else the chance to make me say "wow...this is a neat part of the
> country", or "what a great Gathering that was!". Would you want to miss
> the
> great "Colorado Springs Gathering of '08"? No way! Or maybe San Antonio
> or Ohio, or Wisconsin or MN? We could conceivably do it one year at MVN
> and
> the next somewhere "strange", still by secret ballot vote at the banquet,
> of
> course. Although there's something to be said for the traditional
> "banquet
> pitch", you have to admit that it makes more sense to kick it around on
> the
> internet weeks in advance so people have a chance to investigate, run it
> by
> family members, think about it some, point out pluses or minuses to
> others,
> or whatever. Maybe this is the best of both worlds... I don't know.
>
> I also feel like the west coast guys are getting a raw deal. It's great
> that Lee, Steve, Jeff, Richard, and Rich fly all the way out here to the
> Gatherings, but I'd love to have a year where we all fly to Jeff Scott's
> field in New Mexico to see what a density altitude of 9500' is like. And
> I"ll bet there are a bunch of west coast KRs that we've never even seen
> before. If we had a Gathering out there and brought in some new ones,
> maybe
> they would come to MVN the next year. Or maybe we need to start cooking
> up
> "KR Karavan" trips in the Spring just to get out and get together
> somewhere,
> like Joe Horton and I did in West Viginia one day.
>
> Just another angle on the Gathering thing. I'd volunteer to have one at
> my
> father's farm (which I visited today), but I'm a little worried that
> somebody would roll one up in a ball down there...
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
>
>
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[Steve Bray]

mark
I also would love to have one at Los Alamos airport becouse my son works 
there but it is not exactly an easy airport to land at. Its a one-way 
airport with some tricky winds. On departure even if you don't get airborne 
your gonna fly.off the mountain.
Sante Fe might be a real good place for the westcoasters too.
Steve Bray
Jackson, Tennessee




>From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
>Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
>To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
>Subject: Re: KR> Gathering location
>Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 21:22:47 -0500
>
>Maybe there's a little room for compromise here.  I don't think anybody can
>complain about the venue that Larry and Chris have provided at MVN.  It's
>hard to imagine how it could be much better.  But I also think there's
>something to be said for the adventure of going to a new airport, and 
>giving
>somebody else the chance to make me say "wow...this is a neat part of the
>country", or "what a great Gathering that was!".  Would you want to miss 
>the
>great "Colorado Springs Gathering of '08"?  No way!   Or maybe San Antonio
>or Ohio, or Wisconsin or MN?  We could conceivably do it one year at MVN 
>and
>the next somewhere "strange", still by secret ballot vote at the banquet, 
>of
>course.  Although there's something to be said for the traditional "banquet
>pitch", you have to admit that it makes more sense to kick it around on the
>internet weeks in advance so people have a chance to investigate, run it by
>family members, think about it some, point out pluses or minuses to others,
>or whatever.  Maybe this is the best of both worlds... I don't know.
>
>I also feel like the west coast guys are getting a raw deal.  It's great
>that Lee, Steve, Jeff, Richard, and Rich fly all the way out here to the
>Gatherings, but I'd love to have a year where we all fly to Jeff Scott's
>field in New Mexico to see what a density altitude of 9500' is like.  And
>I"ll bet there are a bunch of west coast KRs that we've never even seen
>before.  If we had a Gathering out there and brought in some new ones, 
>maybe
>they would come to MVN the next year.  Or maybe we need to start cooking up
>"KR Karavan" trips in the Spring just to get out and get together 
>somewhere,
>like Joe Horton and I did in West Viginia one day.
>
>Just another angle on the Gathering thing.  I'd volunteer to have one at my
>father's farm (which I visited today), but I'm a little worried that
>somebody would roll one up in a ball down there...
>
>Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
>see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
>email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
>
>
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Réf. : Re: KR> Gathering location

[Serge VIDAL]

Count me in, John! Just give me another 6 weeks to move Down Under, and 
find a big suitcase to fit the KR in it!

Serge Vidal
KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud"
Paris, France





Bavo <baving...@gmail.com>

Envoyé par : krnet-boun...@mylist.net
07/08/2006 04:46
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Remis le : 07/08/2006 04:47


Pour :  KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
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    Objet : Re: KR> Gathering location



I've got an 800 metre grass strip on my place, and enough beef on the hoof
to ensure there's a prime rib for everyone, even Larry. And it's only 
14DME
from Melbourne Intl for those who don't want to bring thier own KR!
What more could you ask for?

John Bavington
Secretary SAAA Chapter 20
P.O.Box 759 Sunbury 3429.
http://www.saaa.com/

http://au.geocities.com/johnbavington


On 8/7/06, Mark Langford <n5...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>
> Maybe there's a little room for compromise here.  I don't think anybody
> can
> complain about the venue that Larry and Chris have provided at MVN. It's
> hard to imagine how it could be much better.  But I also think there's
> something to be said for the adventure of going to a new airport, and
> giving
> somebody else the chance to make me say "wow...this is a neat part of 
the
> country", or "what a great Gathering that was!".  Would you want to miss
> the
> great "Colorado Springs Gathering of '08"?  No way!   Or maybe San 
Antonio
> or Ohio, or Wisconsin or MN?  We could conceivably do it one year at MVN
> and
> the next somewhere "strange", still by secret ballot vote at the 
banquet,
> of
> course.  Although there's something to be said for the traditional
> "banquet
> pitch", you have to admit that it makes more sense to kick it around on
> the
> internet weeks in advance so people have a chance to investigate, run it
> by
> family members, think about it some, point out pluses or minuses to
> others,
> or whatever.  Maybe this is the best of both worlds... I don't know.
>
> I also feel like the west coast guys are getting a raw deal.  It's great
> that Lee, Steve, Jeff, Richard, and Rich fly all the way out here to the
> Gatherings, but I'd love to have a year where we all fly to Jeff Scott's
> field in New Mexico to see what a density altitude of 9500' is like. And
> I"ll bet there are a bunch of west coast KRs that we've never even seen
> before.  If we had a Gathering out there and brought in some new ones,
> maybe
> they would come to MVN the next year.  Or maybe we need to start cooking
> up
> "KR Karavan" trips in the Spring just to get out and get together
> somewhere,
> like Joe Horton and I did in West Viginia one day.
>
> Just another angle on the Gathering thing.  I'd volunteer to have one at
> my
> father's farm (which I visited today), but I'm a little worried that
> somebody would roll one up in a ball down there...
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
>
>
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KR> Gathering location

[VIRGIL N SALISBURY]

If we would not dream, we would not be building KR's, Virg

On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 20:11:58 -0700 (PDT) "Larry H." 
writes:
> I wish we could take a C5a with all the krs loaded in plus all our 
> bodies, fly to Johns place, take our own hangar with us, eat Johns 
> cows and fly krs around. What could be better ? Oh well a guy can 
> dream can't he ?
>   Larry H.
> 
> Bavo  wrote:
>   I've got an 800 metre grass strip on my place, and enough beef on 
> the hoof
> to ensure there's a prime rib for everyone, even Larry. And it's 
> only 14DME
> from Melbourne Intl for those who don't want to bring thier own KR!
> What more could you ask for?
> 
> John Bavington
> Secretary SAAA Chapter 20
> P.O.Box 759 Sunbury 3429.
> http://www.saaa.com/
> 
> http://au.geocities.com/johnbavington
> 
> 
> On 8/7/06, Mark Langford wrote:
> >
> > Maybe there's a little room for compromise here. I don't think 
> anybody
> > can
> > complain about the venue that Larry and Chris have provided at 
> MVN. It's
> > hard to imagine how it could be much better. But I also think 
> there's
> > something to be said for the adventure of going to a new airport, 
> and
> > giving
> > somebody else the chance to make me say "wow...this is a neat part 
> of the
> > country", or "what a great Gathering that was!". Would you want to 
> miss
> > the
> > great "Colorado Springs Gathering of '08"? No way! Or maybe San 
> Antonio
> > or Ohio, or Wisconsin or MN? We could conceivably do it one year 
> at MVN
> > and
> > the next somewhere "strange", still by secret ballot vote at the 
> banquet,
> > of
> > course. Although there's something to be said for the traditional
> > "banquet
> > pitch", you have to admit that it makes more sense to kick it 
> around on
> > the
> > internet weeks in advance so people have a chance to investigate, 
> run it
> > by
> > family members, think about it some, point out pluses or minuses 
> to
> > others,
> > or whatever. Maybe this is the best of both worlds... I don't 
> know.
> >
> > I also feel like the west coast guys are getting a raw deal. It's 
> great
> > that Lee, Steve, Jeff, Richard, and Rich fly all the way out here 
> to the
> > Gatherings, but I'd love to have a year where we all fly to Jeff 
> Scott's
> > field in New Mexico to see what a density altitude of 9500' is 
> like. And
> > I"ll bet there are a bunch of west coast KRs that we've never even 
> seen
> > before. If we had a Gathering out there and brought in some new 
> ones,
> > maybe
> > they would come to MVN the next year. Or maybe we need to start 
> cooking
> > up
> > "KR Karavan" trips in the Spring just to get out and get together
> > somewhere,
> > like Joe Horton and I did in West Viginia one day.
> >
> > Just another angle on the Gathering thing. I'd volunteer to have 
> one at
> > my
> > father's farm (which I visited today), but I'm a little worried 
> that
> > somebody would roll one up in a ball down there...
> >
> > Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> > see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
> > email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
> >
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KR> Future KR Gathering location

[Fred Johnson]

What about 4SD for a future gathering spot???

Fred Johnson
Product Manager
T.E. West, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: krnet-bounces+fred=renotruss@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+fred=renotruss@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Bob
Glidden
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 11:52 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Future KR Gathering location

When are you going to have as big a group together at one time other
then 
the gathering.It is nice to see other airport,but I think one of the big

factors discussed last year about Grenada was the weather at that time
of 
year(Hurricane season) and being able to hanger them all if the weather
did 
come up.And this is in no way trying to get everyone to vote one way or
the 
other.I think we should take a hour or so on Saturday when the most
people 
are there and decide what everyone would like to do.Just KR guy's and 
gal's.I really hate to see this debated on the net,because it will go on
for 
ever.Like the current emails about diets,my KR don't need a diet.

Bob Glidden
Eminence,Indiana
KR2S N181FW (building)
Corvair 110
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KR> Future KR Gathering location

[Mark Jones]

Any airport is a possibility, but to have it considered, you must be
willing to host the Gathering, you must be at the current Gathering to
make a presentation to have the Gathering at your desired airport and
then it must be voted on by the attendies at the banquet. The winning
vote takes the Gathering to their airport. Simple as that! Be present,
pitch your plan of action and win the election. Then we will come.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
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-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Fred Johnson
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 11:13 AM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Future KR Gathering location


What about 4SD for a future gathering spot???

Fred Johnson
Product Manager
T.E. West, LLC.

-Original Message-
From: krnet-bounces+fred=renotruss@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+fred=renotruss@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Bob
Glidden
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 11:52 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Future KR Gathering location

When are you going to have as big a group together at one time other
then 
the gathering.It is nice to see other airport,but I think one of the big

factors discussed last year about Grenada was the weather at that time
of 
year(Hurricane season) and being able to hanger them all if the weather
did 
come up.And this is in no way trying to get everyone to vote one way or
the 
other.I think we should take a hour or so on Saturday when the most
people 
are there and decide what everyone would like to do.Just KR guy's and 
gal's.I really hate to see this debated on the net,because it will go on
for 
ever.Like the current emails about diets,my KR don't need a diet.

Bob Glidden
Eminence,Indiana
KR2S N181FW (building)
Corvair 110
glid...@ccrtc.com 


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KR> Gathering location---West?

[william Clapp]

I like the idea of having a KRavan going west for a gathering location with 
some different atmosphere.any takers?


Mark Langford  wrote:
  Maybe there's a little room for compromise here. I don't think anybody can 
complain about the venue that Larry and Chris have provided at MVN. It's 
hard to imagine how it could be much better. But I also think there's 
something to be said for the adventure of going to a new airport, and giving 
somebody else the chance to make me say "wow...this is a neat part of the 
country", or "what a great Gathering that was!". Would you want to miss the 
great "Colorado Springs Gathering of '08"? No way! Or maybe San Antonio 
or Ohio, or Wisconsin or MN? We could conceivably do it one year at MVN and 
the next somewhere "strange", still by secret ballot vote at the banquet, of 
course. Although there's something to be said for the traditional "banquet 
pitch", you have to admit that it makes more sense to kick it around on the 
internet weeks in advance so people have a chance to investigate, run it by 
family members, think about it some, point out pluses or minuses to others, 
or whatever. Maybe this is the best of both worlds... I don't know.

I also feel like the west coast guys are getting a raw deal. It's great 
that Lee, Steve, Jeff, Richard, and Rich fly all the way out here to the 
Gatherings, but I'd love to have a year where we all fly to Jeff Scott's 
field in New Mexico to see what a density altitude of 9500' is like. And 
I"ll bet there are a bunch of west coast KRs that we've never even seen 
before. If we had a Gathering out there and brought in some new ones, maybe 
they would come to MVN the next year. Or maybe we need to start cooking up 
"KR Karavan" trips in the Spring just to get out and get together somewhere, 
like Joe Horton and I did in West Viginia one day.

Just another angle on the Gathering thing. I'd volunteer to have one at my 
father's farm (which I visited today), but I'm a little worried that 
somebody would roll one up in a ball down there...

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net


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KR> Gathering location---West?

[Mark Jones]

Sounds like fun but you can not lead the pack. :-)

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
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Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com


-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of william Clapp
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:57 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Gathering location---West?


I like the idea of having a KRavan going west for a gathering location with 
some different atmosphere.any takers?


Mark Langford <n5...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
  Maybe there's a little room for compromise here. I don't think anybody can 
complain about the venue that Larry and Chris have provided at MVN. It's 
hard to imagine how it could be much better. But I also think there's 
something to be said for the adventure of going to a new airport, and giving 
somebody else the chance to make me say "wow...this is a neat part of the 
country", or "what a great Gathering that was!". Would you want to miss the 
great "Colorado Springs Gathering of '08"? No way! Or maybe San Antonio 
or Ohio, or Wisconsin or MN? We could conceivably do it one year at MVN and 
the next somewhere "strange", still by secret ballot vote at the banquet, of 
course. Although there's something to be said for the traditional "banquet 
pitch", you have to admit that it makes more sense to kick it around on the 
internet weeks in advance so people have a chance to investigate, run it by 
family members, think about it some, point out pluses or minuses to others, 
or whatever. Maybe this is the best of both worlds... I don't know.

I also feel like the west coast guys are getting a raw deal. It's great 
that Lee, Steve, Jeff, Richard, and Rich fly all the way out here to the 
Gatherings, but I'd love to have a year where we all fly to Jeff Scott's 
field in New Mexico to see what a density altitude of 9500' is like. And 
I"ll bet there are a bunch of west coast KRs that we've never even seen 
before. If we had a Gathering out there and brought in some new ones, maybe 
they would come to MVN the next year. Or maybe we need to start cooking up 
"KR Karavan" trips in the Spring just to get out and get together somewhere, 
like Joe Horton and I did in West Viginia one day.

Just another angle on the Gathering thing. I'd volunteer to have one at my 
father's farm (which I visited today), but I'm a little worried that 
somebody would roll one up in a ball down there...

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net


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KR> Gathering location---West?

[william Clapp]

Whats up Mark?---you picking on me ?  -  I,ll  just get there early an take a 
nap then and wait for you


Mark Jones <mjo...@muellersales.com> wrote:
  Sounds like fun but you can not lead the pack. :-)

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Web site: www.flykr2s.com
Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of william Clapp
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:57 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Gathering location---West?


I like the idea of having a KRavan going west for a gathering location with 
some different atmosphere.any takers?


Mark Langford wrote:
Maybe there's a little room for compromise here. I don't think anybody can 
complain about the venue that Larry and Chris have provided at MVN. It's 
hard to imagine how it could be much better. But I also think there's 
something to be said for the adventure of going to a new airport, and giving 
somebody else the chance to make me say "wow...this is a neat part of the 
country", or "what a great Gathering that was!". Would you want to miss the 
great "Colorado Springs Gathering of '08"? No way! Or maybe San Antonio 
or Ohio, or Wisconsin or MN? We could conceivably do it one year at MVN and 
the next somewhere "strange", still by secret ballot vote at the banquet, of 
course. Although there's something to be said for the traditional "banquet 
pitch", you have to admit that it makes more sense to kick it around on the 
internet weeks in advance so people have a chance to investigate, run it by 
family members, think about it some, point out pluses or minuses to others, 
or whatever. Maybe this is the best of both worlds... I don't know.

I also feel like the west coast guys are getting a raw deal. It's great 
that Lee, Steve, Jeff, Richard, and Rich fly all the way out here to the 
Gatherings, but I'd love to have a year where we all fly to Jeff Scott's 
field in New Mexico to see what a density altitude of 9500' is like. And 
I"ll bet there are a bunch of west coast KRs that we've never even seen 
before. If we had a Gathering out there and brought in some new ones, maybe 
they would come to MVN the next year. Or maybe we need to start cooking up 
"KR Karavan" trips in the Spring just to get out and get together somewhere, 
like Joe Horton and I did in West Viginia one day.

Just another angle on the Gathering thing. I'd volunteer to have one at my 
father's farm (which I visited today), but I'm a little worried that 
somebody would roll one up in a ball down there...

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net


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KR> Gathering location---West?

[Mark Jones]

Don't put your taters before the spud. Changes are coming

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
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Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of william Clapp
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 3:09 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: RE: KR> Gathering location---West?


Whats up Mark?---you picking on me ?  -  I,ll  just get there early an take a 
nap then and wait for you


Mark Jones <mjo...@muellersales.com> wrote:
  Sounds like fun but you can not lead the pack. :-)

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Web site: www.flykr2s.com
Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com


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Behalf Of william Clapp
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:57 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Gathering location---West?


I like the idea of having a KRavan going west for a gathering location with 
some different atmosphere.any takers?


Mark Langford wrote:
Maybe there's a little room for compromise here. I don't think anybody can 
complain about the venue that Larry and Chris have provided at MVN. It's 
hard to imagine how it could be much better. But I also think there's 
something to be said for the adventure of going to a new airport, and giving 
somebody else the chance to make me say "wow...this is a neat part of the 
country", or "what a great Gathering that was!". Would you want to miss the 
great "Colorado Springs Gathering of '08"? No way! Or maybe San Antonio 
or Ohio, or Wisconsin or MN? We could conceivably do it one year at MVN and 
the next somewhere "strange", still by secret ballot vote at the banquet, of 
course. Although there's something to be said for the traditional "banquet 
pitch", you have to admit that it makes more sense to kick it around on the 
internet weeks in advance so people have a chance to investigate, run it by 
family members, think about it some, point out pluses or minuses to others, 
or whatever. Maybe this is the best of both worlds... I don't know.

I also feel like the west coast guys are getting a raw deal. It's great 
that Lee, Steve, Jeff, Richard, and Rich fly all the way out here to the 
Gatherings, but I'd love to have a year where we all fly to Jeff Scott's 
field in New Mexico to see what a density altitude of 9500' is like. And 
I"ll bet there are a bunch of west coast KRs that we've never even seen 
before. If we had a Gathering out there and brought in some new ones, maybe 
they would come to MVN the next year. Or maybe we need to start cooking up 
"KR Karavan" trips in the Spring just to get out and get together somewhere, 
like Joe Horton and I did in West Viginia one day.

Just another angle on the Gathering thing. I'd volunteer to have one at my 
father's farm (which I visited today), but I'm a little worried that 
somebody would roll one up in a ball down there...

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net


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KR> Gathering location

[Lee Van Dyke]

Netters

Is it me or do you think that Mark L and changed his tune.  The last 2 years 
of Mark's talks at Oshkosh have changed!  Now that he is flying he wants to 
talk about flying the KR2S, not that it is a bad thing, rather that talking 
about building.  Yes I would love to fly my plane anywhere for the 
gathering. With the options that were persented to us last year MVN was the 
best choice.  I liked staying at the Hotel but this year I will be camping, 
and flying my plane in.  Yea a potty and a shower at hand would be nice, but 
I want to hang with the airport and the campers.  Next year, maybe a BETTER 
option will persent itself, if not I have no problem going to MVN again, 
they are nice and the airport is a great location.  The bottom line is where 
do the KR netters want to be, and then make the best of it.
By the way this started about Mark L.  He is a GREAT guy and loves the KR2, 
but he is flying and not building anymore,,, get it off the bench and in the 
air...

NO MORE FROM ME ABOUT THIS SUBJECT>>>


Lee Van Dyke


- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Gathering location


> Maybe there's a little room for compromise here.  I don't think anybody 
> can
> complain about the venue that Larry and Chris have provided at MVN.  It's
> hard to imagine how it could be much better.  But I also think there's
> something to be said for the adventure of going to a new airport, and 
> giving
> somebody else the chance to make me say "wow...this is a neat part of the
> country", or "what a great Gathering that was!".  Would you want to miss 
> the
> great "Colorado Springs Gathering of '08"?  No way!   Or maybe San Antonio
> or Ohio, or Wisconsin or MN?  We could conceivably do it one year at MVN 
> and
> the next somewhere "strange", still by secret ballot vote at the banquet, 
> of
> course.  Although there's something to be said for the traditional 
> "banquet
> pitch", you have to admit that it makes more sense to kick it around on 
> the
> internet weeks in advance so people have a chance to investigate, run it 
> by
> family members, think about it some, point out pluses or minuses to 
> others,
> or whatever.  Maybe this is the best of both worlds... I don't know.
>
> I also feel like the west coast guys are getting a raw deal.  It's great
> that Lee, Steve, Jeff, Richard, and Rich fly all the way out here to the
> Gatherings, but I'd love to have a year where we all fly to Jeff Scott's
> field in New Mexico to see what a density altitude of 9500' is like.  And
> I"ll bet there are a bunch of west coast KRs that we've never even seen
> before.  If we had a Gathering out there and brought in some new ones, 
> maybe
> they would come to MVN the next year.  Or maybe we need to start cooking 
> up
> "KR Karavan" trips in the Spring just to get out and get together 
> somewhere,
> like Joe Horton and I did in West Viginia one day.
>
> Just another angle on the Gathering thing.  I'd volunteer to have one at 
> my
> father's farm (which I visited today), but I'm a little worried that
> somebody would roll one up in a ball down there...
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
>
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KR> Gathering location

[Lee Van Dyke]

Bring it to the Sat night Banquet

Lee
- Original Message - 
From: "Bavo" <baving...@gmail.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Gathering location


> I've got an 800 metre grass strip on my place, and enough beef on the hoof
> to ensure there's a prime rib for everyone, even Larry. And it's only 
> 14DME
> from Melbourne Intl for those who don't want to bring thier own KR!
> What more could you ask for?
>
> John Bavington
> Secretary SAAA Chapter 20
> P.O.Box 759 Sunbury 3429.
> http://www.saaa.com/
>
> http://au.geocities.com/johnbavington
>
>
> On 8/7/06, Mark Langford <n5...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe there's a little room for compromise here.  I don't think anybody
>> can
>> complain about the venue that Larry and Chris have provided at MVN.  It's
>> hard to imagine how it could be much better.  But I also think there's
>> something to be said for the adventure of going to a new airport, and
>> giving
>> somebody else the chance to make me say "wow...this is a neat part of the
>> country", or "what a great Gathering that was!".  Would you want to miss
>> the
>> great "Colorado Springs Gathering of '08"?  No way!   Or maybe San 
>> Antonio
>> or Ohio, or Wisconsin or MN?  We could conceivably do it one year at MVN
>> and
>> the next somewhere "strange", still by secret ballot vote at the banquet,
>> of
>> course.  Although there's something to be said for the traditional
>> "banquet
>> pitch", you have to admit that it makes more sense to kick it around on
>> the
>> internet weeks in advance so people have a chance to investigate, run it
>> by
>> family members, think about it some, point out pluses or minuses to
>> others,
>> or whatever.  Maybe this is the best of both worlds... I don't know.
>>
>> I also feel like the west coast guys are getting a raw deal.  It's great
>> that Lee, Steve, Jeff, Richard, and Rich fly all the way out here to the
>> Gatherings, but I'd love to have a year where we all fly to Jeff Scott's
>> field in New Mexico to see what a density altitude of 9500' is like.  And
>> I"ll bet there are a bunch of west coast KRs that we've never even seen
>> before.  If we had a Gathering out there and brought in some new ones,
>> maybe
>> they would come to MVN the next year.  Or maybe we need to start cooking
>> up
>> "KR Karavan" trips in the Spring just to get out and get together
>> somewhere,
>> like Joe Horton and I did in West Viginia one day.
>>
>> Just another angle on the Gathering thing.  I'd volunteer to have one at
>> my
>> father's farm (which I visited today), but I'm a little worried that
>> somebody would roll one up in a ball down there...
>>
>> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
>> see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
>> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
>>
>>
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