KR> Homebuilt pricing

2014-01-03 Thread Dan Prichard
I spoke to Lynn about the plane a few months ago. He was looking to sell the 
engine and mount. Needs new mags and hasn't run in a few years. His daughter 
and son want to hang the air plane at a business. Very nice people and hanging 
the plane in public would be a great tribute to their father. Very good 
workmanship. 

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> On Jan 3, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Craig Williams  wrote:
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> That's a nice plane.  I talked to Lynn a while back and he told me he was 
> going to sell it.  If I was closer I would snatch it up.  Hope someone does 
> before it gets the axe.
> 
> Craig
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> On Friday, January 3, 2014 11:15 AM, peter  wrote:
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> Dear All;
> I looked at Lynn Hyders "30's racer KR2" over the weekend, and I was 
> shocked! This gorgeous plane was sitting in his daughter's garage with the 
> wings cut off, no takers when he offered it for $4,800! The 235 lyc had new 
> yellow-tagged cylinders, new prop, just the prettiest little gem of a plane. 
> I would love to buy the plane, install WAFs, and fly off the test time (yes, 
> SAC has been issued!), but the little monster is a single seater, and 
> test-flying is not my cup of tea, and I think I'll finish my Osprey2 and call 
> it good. The extended wings and belly board should make it a dream to land, 
> but you will need to get the tail up early to see what's ahead on takeoff.
> Last month on Ebay I saw my old BD4 listed...unchanged from the day I 
> sold her decades ago. I overhauled the 0-320 at A&P school, cool 4 
> seater...$2,400.  Maybe we should have a "Young Builders" program for passing 
> on our projects. When I "dreamed" of owning a plane I watched hundreds of 
> tri-pacers rotting in the weeds, their old owners unwilling to sell for what 
> I had to offer. I remember the theme that EAA used in the 80's: "the dream of 
> flight" and I always thought how ironic it was...so much of the work going 
> into those dreams was unrealistic and wasted. The safest (and cheapest) way 
> to get airborne was to rent. If you wanted adventure, Matias Rust landed a 
> 172 in Red Square...beat that Burt Rutan! Giving (donating) your dream to the 
> next generation is a necessary extension of  the "dream". Staying alive while 
>  flying was never about dreaming, but was a result of hard-headed calculation 
> and self-discipline. 
> I'm old, and can be cynical, so If you want the next generation to pay 
> more for your project, call Paul Poberezny or Steve Whitman (the men who 
> inspired thousands to build)...oh, they aren't answering their phones. This 
> mess was predictable, and it will get worse before it improves. The price of 
> something is not it's value, and the value of all aircraft is ridiculously 
> below replacement cost. Contact me for more info on that dreamy KR, before 
> they put it into the dumpsterPeter
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KR> Homebuilt pricing

2014-01-03 Thread Craig Williams
That's a nice plane.? I talked to Lynn a while back and he told me he was going 
to sell it.? If I was closer I would snatch it up.? Hope someone does before it 
gets the axe.

Craig





On Friday, January 3, 2014 11:15 AM, peter  wrote:




Dear All;
? ? I looked at Lynn Hyders "30's racer KR2" over the weekend, and I was 
shocked! This gorgeous plane was sitting in his daughter's garage with the 
wings cut off, no takers when he offered it for $4,800! The 235 lyc had new 
yellow-tagged cylinders, new prop, just the prettiest little gem of a plane. I 
would love to buy the plane, install WAFs, and fly off the test time (yes, SAC 
has been issued!), but the little monster is a single seater, and test-flying 
is not my cup of tea, and I think I'll finish my Osprey2 and call it good. The 
extended wings and belly board should make it a dream to land, but you will 
need to get the tail up early to see what's ahead on takeoff.
? ? Last month on Ebay I saw my old BD4 listed...unchanged from the day I sold 
her decades ago. I overhauled the 0-320 at A&P school, cool 4 seater...$2,400.? 
Maybe we should have a "Young Builders" program for passing on our projects. 
When I "dreamed" of owning a plane I watched hundreds of tri-pacers rotting in 
the weeds, their old owners unwilling to sell for what I had to offer. I 
remember the theme that EAA used in the 80's: "the dream of flight" and I 
always thought how ironic it was...so much of the work going into those dreams 
was unrealistic and wasted. The safest (and cheapest) way to get airborne was 
to rent. If you wanted adventure, Matias Rust landed a 172 in Red Square...beat 
that Burt Rutan! Giving (donating) your dream to the next generation is a 
necessary extension of? the "dream". Staying alive while? flying was never 
about dreaming, but was a result of hard-headed calculation and 
self-discipline. 
? ? I'm old, and can be cynical, so If you want the next generation to pay more 
for your project, call Paul Poberezny or Steve Whitman (the men who inspired 
thousands to build)...oh, they aren't answering their phones. This mess was 
predictable, and it will get worse before it improves. The price of something 
is not it's value, and the value of all aircraft is ridiculously below 
replacement cost. Contact me for more info on that dreamy KR, before they put 
it into the dumpsterPeter









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KR> Homebuilt pricing

2014-01-03 Thread peter



Dear All;
I looked at Lynn Hyders "30's racer KR2" over the weekend, and I was 
shocked! This gorgeous plane was sitting in his daughter's garage with the 
wings cut off, no takers when he offered it for $4,800! The 235 lyc had new 
yellow-tagged cylinders, new prop, just the prettiest little gem of a plane. I 
would love to buy the plane, install WAFs, and fly off the test time (yes, SAC 
has been issued!), but the little monster is a single seater, and test-flying 
is not my cup of tea, and I think I'll finish my Osprey2 and call it good. The 
extended wings and belly board should make it a dream to land, but you will 
need to get the tail up early to see what's ahead on takeoff.
Last month on Ebay I saw my old BD4 listed...unchanged from the day I sold 
her decades ago. I overhauled the 0-320 at A&P school, cool 4 seater...$2,400.  
Maybe we should have a "Young Builders" program for passing on our projects. 
When I "dreamed" of owning a plane I watched hundreds of tri-pacers rotting in 
the weeds, their old owners unwilling to sell for what I had to offer. I 
remember the theme that EAA used in the 80's: "the dream of flight" and I 
always thought how ironic it was...so much of the work going into those dreams 
was unrealistic and wasted. The safest (and cheapest) way to get airborne was 
to rent. If you wanted adventure, Matias Rust landed a 172 in Red Square...beat 
that Burt Rutan! Giving (donating) your dream to the next generation is a 
necessary extension of  the "dream". Staying alive while  flying was never 
about dreaming, but was a result of hard-headed calculation and 
self-discipline. 
I'm old, and can be cynical, so If you want the next generation to pay more 
for your project, call Paul Poberezny or Steve Whitman (the men who inspired 
thousands to build)...oh, they aren't answering their phones. This mess was 
predictable, and it will get worse before it improves. The price of something 
is not it's value, and the value of all aircraft is ridiculously below 
replacement cost. Contact me for more info on that dreamy KR, before they put 
it into the dumpsterPeter











KR> Homebuilt pricing

2013-12-29 Thread Doran Jaffas
Folks
With all due respect anyone that has built , sold or purchased a
project or completed aircraft knows that labor on a dollar per hour basis
is never recovered in a sale. Usually 50 to 70 cents on the dollar for
materials is about all one expect. Sometimes less. We build for a variety
if reasons, purchase projects and completed homebuilts also for a variety
of reasons including prideeducation .. and performance but those
are not all inclusive.  When claims an experimental is a percentage
along...it IS ONLY THEIR INTERPRETATION of just that.  All of us have
differing opinions of this and a percieved value of any aircraft.  That
does nout make anyone wrong unless they are INTENTIONALLY trying to
decieve. In 30 years of homebuilt I have never that I know of...run
into this as the stakes are too high for all of us.