KR> Regressive upgrades... or

2016-05-29 Thread Roger
I hope they are worthy. I mounted a set of P mags in my O235. By separating the 
coil from the guts, I was able to cram the engine aft against the firewall. 
First fire should be in a month. 
Roger
OK

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> On May 28, 2016, at 10:28 PM, Jeff Scott via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> No good deed goes unpunished.
> I'm beginning to wonder about the mechanical reliably of the Pmags.
> They should not be breaking like that.
> 
> --
> Wayne DeLisle Sr.
> 
> -
> The only thing I can say about the Pmags is that the failures I have seen are 
> not typical to them.  Emag said they thought I may have bumped the edge 
> connector during installation causing the original failure some 65 hours 
> later.  I don't think so, but it is a possibility.  The second failure was 
> caused by them fixing the first and not torquing the assembly properly when 
> they put it back together.  Would I still buy them again.  Yeah.  I think I 
> would.  But my enthusiasm isn't as high as before.
> 
> In general, they would like to have you ship them back for inspection every 
> couple of hundred hours.  Their inspections are inexpensive.  But like many 
> "new" products in aviation, it really is still and R product and doesn't 
> have the millions of hours of history like Slick or Bendix.  I will say their 
> service has been really good.  They have never charged me a cent for repairs. 
>  Not even shipping.  If I had a mag failure 100 hrs down the road, I'd be 
> buying a new mag on my nickel.
> 
> -Jeff Scott
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KR> Regressive upgrades... or

2016-05-29 Thread Jeff Scott

No good deed goes unpunished.
I'm beginning to wonder about the mechanical reliably of the Pmags.
They should not be breaking like that.

--
Wayne DeLisle Sr.

-
The only thing I can say about the Pmags is that the failures I have seen are 
not typical to them.  Emag said they thought I may have bumped the edge 
connector during installation causing the original failure some 65 hours later. 
 I don't think so, but it is a possibility.  The second failure was caused by 
them fixing the first and not torquing the assembly properly when they put it 
back together.  Would I still buy them again.  Yeah.  I think I would.  But my 
enthusiasm isn't as high as before.

In general, they would like to have you ship them back for inspection every 
couple of hundred hours.  Their inspections are inexpensive.  But like many 
"new" products in aviation, it really is still and R product and doesn't have 
the millions of hours of history like Slick or Bendix.  I will say their 
service has been really good.  They have never charged me a cent for repairs.  
Not even shipping.  If I had a mag failure 100 hrs down the road, I'd be buying 
a new mag on my nickel.

-Jeff Scott



KR> Regressive upgrades... or

2016-05-29 Thread Jeff Scott
Sorry about the blank email.  Sometimes I fail to change the format to text 
only



Or When is an upgrade not really an upgrade?
?
As most everyone knows, I'm always trying to improve my KR.? But much like 
building, every little change has a string of unintended consequences.? There 
comes a point where sometimes I think things would be much simpler if I had 
only left well enough alone.? But I'm getting old, and at the twilight of my 
career the governmenet pays me lots of money to do what I do, so I've spent 
more than my fair share on my KR finding out what works... and what doesn't.
?
Three years ago, the tired old cylinders on my O-200 just gave up.? The 
compressions were way off and I had been nursing them along for many hundreds 
of hours, so I decided to install new cylinders, and while I was at it, 
installed the 8.5:1 pistons for an O-200-D.? I had heard those pistons weren't 
readily available, so I was quite surprised when Aircraft Specialties said they 
had them and could replace the pistons in my cylinder kits with the higher 
compression pistons.? Great! (I thought).? I got the new cylinder kits, did 
some minor port clean up in the cylinders, and went to put the engine back 
together.? That is when I discovered that Continental had changed to a tapered 
ring for the higher compression pistons.? No problen, I call Aircraft 
Specialties to order.? To their surprise, they couldn't get them.? And if they 
could, they were unaffordably expensive.? So I take my new pistons off to my 
friendly machinist and had him cut the top ring groove to fit the old style 
O-200 ring, and installed the pistons with the much less expensive rings.? That 
has turned out to work just great.?
?
At the same time I did the top overhaul, I pulled my relatively low time 
magnetos off, sold them and bought a pair of P-mags.? After all, the P-mags 
only have one moving part, so what could possibly go wrong?? At 65 hrs, I had 
an edge connector on the PC card in one of the Pmags simply break.? I was a 
couple of hundred miles away from home on an overnight trip, so turned back and 
flew home with 2 cylinders not firing on one ignition system.? Emag was very 
good with their service and repaired the unit at no cost.??
?
The first trip to the KR gathering following the top overhaul and Pmag upgrade, 
my generator failed with what was clearly worn out brushes.? I guess they just 
wear out every 700 hrs or so.? Breaking down away from home is not only 
inconvenient, but a bit expensive.? What would have cost me $10 for a set of 
brushes at home ended up costing me $500 for an overhauled generator and two 
extra nights at the Holiday Inn in Mt Vernon.? The guys at SRT in Mt Vernon 
were kind enough to let me use their tools to change out the generator and 
didn't charge me for the shop time.? Man it would have been much less expensive 
if I had an alternator on this plane as they are usually good for the life of 
the engine.? So I promised myself I was going to upgrade to a new alternator 
before this generator needs brushes.
?
I also had an older Delco pull cable starter.? With the higher compression 
engine, the old inefficient starter, and the light weight Prince Prop, when the 
engine would pass the compression stroke on a cylinder while turning on the 
starter, the prop would outrun the slow old starter causing the sprag clutch in 
the starter to release, then as the engine hit the compression stroke of the 
next cylinder, the clutch would grab again with a bang.? Yep, I creamed the 
sprag clutch in my starter... twice... at $350 a pop.? Ok, I promised myself to 
upgrade the starter as well next time I have money to burn and get serious 
about work on the KR.
?
Now we are three years and 160 hrs down the road from installing the Pmags and 
high compression pistons.? My second starter clutch is failing.? On the return 
trip from the spring fly-in at Casa Grande, AZ, I apparently flew a good 
portion of the trip with one failed Pmag.? Turned out to be the same Pmag as 
what failed before.? This time the head of the Pmag was flopping around loose 
on it's mounting flange.? Emag explained to me there are 4 screws that hold the 
head onto the mounting flange.? Apparently they had failed to torque them 
properly 100 hrs earlier when they had repaired this unit.? So I was going to 
be down for 2 or 3 weeks while the Pmag made another round trip to Emag for 
repairs.? While I was dealing with that, I found someone that had just removed 
a low time Plane power alternator and B starter from his C-85 and was willing 
to part with them for a reasonable price.? Hot dog!? Now I can fix my starter 
clutch problem as well as replacing the generator with a much more reliable 
alternator.? That, of course required some wiring upgrades for the higher 
current output of the alternator, but I could finally retire the generator.? 
One concern was that the alternator can put out up to 

KR> Regressive upgrades... or

2016-05-29 Thread Jeff Scott


KR> Regressive upgrades... or

2016-05-28 Thread Wayne
> Or When is an upgrade not really an upgrade?

No good deed goes unpunished.
I'm beginning to wonder about the mechanical reliably of the Pmags.
They should not be breaking like that.

-- 
Wayne DeLisle Sr.