KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

2015-03-03 Thread Peter Drake
Rogelio

The sitka grown in the UK is only good for matchsticks and construction it 
grows too fast. We use it graded to C16 for construction which is on the 
limit.
Baltic pine is too dense and not as strong.
I have got Douglas fir spars on mine, but they are heavy compared to spruce 
and must be North American (see above for UK grown Spruce)
Hardwoods in general have too short a fibre length to be any good.
Sorry stuck with Spruce...

Peter

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On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
 wrote:

>
> Spruce is like Gold nowadays. Which is a good substitute? Baltic Pine?
> bald cypress?
>
> Anybody got a stand of stika spruce they can spare? ;-)
>

Half of commercial plantations in the UK actually plant Sitka Spruce.
But they are mostly used for paper, furniture and packing crates.
Packing crates!

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KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

2015-03-03 Thread Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
Im planning to use the cf for the main spar and a second spar at 50%
chord, wing skins and ailerons and flaps and landing gear.

But im going to build a stock kr2 for now.

I was trying to copy the colomban mc 100. high wing loading (about
same as a cessna!). small wetted surface area and light weight.

the gear needs to be taller to accommodate the flaps. which is
composed of a fowler flap under a plain flap, and it needs to be very
torsionally rigid so i can actuate it reliably from the fuselage. And
the wing root needs to be 5.4 inches thick using a different 15 %
airfoil.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Flesner via KRnet  
wrote:
> At 06:02 PM 3/1/2015, you wrote:
>>
>> I just ordered flat tow bid uni and triax carbon fiber fabric for my
>> spars.
>
> ++
> How are you planning to use carbon fiber on the spars?  The plans call for
> spruce and ply only.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
>




KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

2015-03-03 Thread Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
 wrote:

>
> Spruce is like Gold nowadays. Which is a good substitute? Baltic Pine?
> bald cypress?
>
> Anybody got a stand of stika spruce they can spare? ;-)
>

Half of commercial plantations in the UK actually plant Sitka Spruce.
But they are mostly used for paper, furniture and packing crates.
Packing crates!



KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

2015-03-03 Thread Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
Ill build it stock for now.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:48 AM, JAMES DUFF  
wrote:
> As Mike says.
>
> If you're flying under UK law it needs to be built as per plans which is
> what the design has been assessed against, unless it's a KR2S in which case
> it's as per plans plus some mandatory modifications which the LAA will send
> you drawings of.
>

I will do that later.

> It is possible to modify from the plans, but mods need to be approved via a
> documentation package demonstrating by calculation their safety and
> integrity. Structural mods will also require physical load testing.
>
> Dudley Pattison of the Swindon Aircraft Timber Company was good, but I hear
> he's trying to retire.
>

Spruce is like Gold nowadays. Which is a good substitute? Baltic Pine?
bald cypress?

Anybody got a stand of stika spruce they can spare? ;-)

> If built under UK law it needs to be built with Sitka Spruce and GL1 grade
> birch ply. You can use GL2 ply for non-structural stuff, but I can't think

WOW! That Law needs to be changed!

> of anything non-structural on a plans-built KR2 off the top of my head.
>
> I would most strongly suggest you heed Mike's advice and contact the LAA for
> advice before proceeding any further.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jamie
>




KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

2015-03-03 Thread Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
I decided to just build a stock kr2 and do trivial mods. I will build
the CF spar and have it tested and certified later.

Thank you for the advice Mike.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Mike  wrote:
> It certainly will be an issue if you expect to build and fly your KR under
> the UK Light Aircraft Association's Permit to Fly arrangements. I suggest
> you look on the LAA website and find a local inspector to guide you through
> the system.
> http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/inspectors/insp_home_page.html
>
> There are several UK builders who occasionally post here and might offer you
> their advice.
>
> Mike Mold




KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

2015-03-03 Thread Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Dan Heath via KRnet
 wrote:
> So, I guess that if you were to build a "one-up", it would be as bad as
> building a new certified aircraft here in the US.  Seems like a really good
> way to encourage "experimentation".
>


Its not that bad really. But I think ill consider flying to the US and
build a cf wing there...

Don't know if i could fly it back here though...



KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

2015-03-03 Thread Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
Hi Peter,


Thank you for the heads up. I got so excited about the CF i forgot
about the LAA.

What mods are you doing exactly?

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Peter Drake  wrote:
> Hi Rogelio
>
> I am based in Herefordshire and am building a much modified KR2s
> (www.peterskr2s.co.uk)
> DO NOT MAKE MODIFICATIONS LIGHTLY AND WITHOUT APPROVAL FROM LAA ENGINEERING,
> you will encounter big hassles if you do and you will not get a permit to
> fly without.
> I am speaking from personal experience!
>
> Getting spruce in the UK is difficult. However I have found a source in
> Oxfordshire called Bygone Aviation near Witney. (Matt at bygoneaviation.com).
>
> Give me a call on 01497 847340 if you want a chat.
>
> Cheers
>
> Peter Drake
>



KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

2015-03-03 Thread Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
Hi Mark,

That means individuals cannot do it alone anymore.

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Mark Langford via KRnet
 wrote:

>
> So yes, carbon fiber spars will almost certainly require more work than you
> can imagine to get past Engineering.  The few pounds you will save in the
> effort will likely cost years and thousands of BP.  But some people enjoy
> the chase and the sense of accomplishment at pulling it off, so feel free to
> blaze a trail for us...
>

I designed a small wing with big flaps. Actually double flaps and it
needs the rigidity of carbon fiber to work. The root chord is 38
inches and the tip is 24 inches. Wood just doesnt cut it for a max
gross of 900 lbs and a load factor of 7 G. A quarter inch thick 4 inch
wide cf spar cap is already overkill and that's way lighter than wood.
Besides Sitka Spruce is already approaching the price of Gold. Its
sustainable and all but nobody plants them anymore.

The fuselage need to be taller. The elevator needs to become a
stabilator. The vert needs to become an all moving rudder, Like the
Vee pee. The front fuse need to be shorter and straighter, 41 inches
wide and parallel to the firewall. And the landing gear leg needs to
be cf and really light and out of the prop wash.

The game changer for me in terms of carbon fiber is the flat tow
fabrics and reduced cost of triax. Its way better than the earlier
fabrics.



KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

2015-03-03 Thread Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
Hi Peter,

Doing it alone is very very hard.


On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Peter Drake via KRnet
 wrote:
> Mark
> I thought I enjoyed a chase, but that one is wearing a bit thin now!
>
> Peter Drake
>



KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

2015-03-03 Thread Patrick Driscoll
Can we change the subject on this thread? Doesn't look like finding wood 
anymore.
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Saint Paul, MN
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KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

2015-03-03 Thread Peter Drake
Mark
I thought I enjoyed a chase, but that one is wearing a bit thin now!

Peter Drake

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But some
people enjoy the chase and the sense of accomplishment at pulling it
off, so feel free to blaze a trail for us...

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
http://www.n56ml.com


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KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

2015-03-02 Thread Mark Langford
Not to be a naysayer or pile on, but Richard Mole was designing a new 
airplane in the UK with a carbon fiber spar, and had to build a 
full-scale spar and test apparatus, and bring it to LAA headquarters and 
demonstrate a live test, along with a pile of calculations that he said 
was several inches thick, which supported and proved his calculations 
and the test results matched.

So yes, carbon fiber spars will almost certainly require more work than 
you can imagine to get past Engineering.  The few pounds you will save 
in the effort will likely cost years and thousands of BP.  But some 
people enjoy the chase and the sense of accomplishment at pulling it 
off, so feel free to blaze a trail for us...

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
http://www.n56ml.com




KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

2015-03-02 Thread Mike
Dan, the fundamental difference between our respective systems, as I'm sure
has been mentioned before, is that in the USA you carry the responsibilities
individually, for the approval and airworthiness of you're a/c whereas in
the UK, the responsibility for approval is carried by the LAA and continued
airworthiness is a partnership between us as builders/aircraft owners, our
LAA inspectors and the LAA HQ Engineering Dept. Hence, unless we get
individual approval for any mods (which do not come lighty) we do not have
the same freedom for experimentation. On the other side of the coin,
however, we do have a very worthwhile safety net of regulation and
oversight.

Regards
Mike Mold

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Subject: Re: KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

So, I guess that if you were to build a "one-up", it would be as bad as
building a new certified aircraft here in the US.  Seems like a really good
way to encourage "experimentation".



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As Mike says.





If you're flying under UK law it needs to be built as per plans which is
what the design has been assessed against, unless it's a KR2S in which case
it's as per plans plus some mandatory modifications which the LAA will send
you drawings of.





It is possible to modify from the plans, but mods need to be approved via a
documentation package demonstrating by calculation their safety and
integrity. Structural mods will also require physical load testing.





Dudley Pattison of the Swindon Aircraft Timber Company was good, but I hear
he's trying to retire.





If built under UK law it needs to be built with Sitka Spruce and GL1 grade
birch ply. You can use GL2 ply for non-structural stuff, but I can't think
of anything non-structural on a plans-built KR2 off the top of my head.





I would most strongly suggest you heed Mike's advice and contact the LAA for
advice before proceeding any further.





Regards,





Jamie



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It certainly will be an issue if you expect to build and fly your KR under
the UK Light Aircraft Association's Permit to Fly arrangements. I suggest
you look on the LAA website and find a local inspector to guide you through
the system.

 <http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/inspectors/insp_home_page.html>
http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/inspectors/insp_home_page.html 



There are several UK builders who occasionally post here and might offer you
their advice.



Mike Mold



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> How are you planning to use carbon fiber on the spars?  The plans call 

> for spruce and ply only.

> 

> Larry Flesner



I am deviating from the plans. I hope it will not be too much of an issue.



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KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

2015-03-02 Thread Peter Drake
Hi Rogelio

I am based in Herefordshire and am building a much modified KR2s 
(www.peterskr2s.co.uk)
DO NOT MAKE MODIFICATIONS LIGHTLY AND WITHOUT APPROVAL FROM LAA ENGINEERING, 
you will encounter big hassles if you do and you will not get a permit to 
fly without.
I am speaking from personal experience!

Getting spruce in the UK is difficult. However I have found a source in 
Oxfordshire called Bygone Aviation near Witney. (Matt at bygoneaviation.com).

Give me a call on 01497 847340 if you want a chat.

Cheers

Peter Drake

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Date: 02 March 2015 00:02
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Subject: KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

Hi Guys,

I hope UK based builders can get in touch.

I live in the Isle of Man and I'm looking for spruce and okoume
plywood suppliers in the northwest of Britain.

I just ordered flat tow bid uni and triax carbon fiber fabric for my spars.

I hope to be building the fuse as soon as possible.

Thank you in advance.

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2015-03-02 Thread JAMES DUFF
As Mike says.


If you're flying under UK law it needs to be built as per plans which is what 
the design has been assessed against, unless it's a KR2S in which case it's as 
per plans plus some mandatory modifications which the LAA will send you 
drawings of.


It is possible to modify from the plans, but mods need to be approved via a 
documentation package demonstrating by calculation their safety and integrity. 
Structural mods will also require physical load testing.


Dudley Pattison of the Swindon Aircraft Timber Company was good, but I hear 
he's trying to retire.


If built under UK law it needs to be built with Sitka Spruce and GL1 grade 
birch ply. You can use GL2 ply for non-structural stuff, but I can't think of 
anything non-structural on a plans-built KR2 off the top of my head.


I would most strongly suggest you heed Mike's advice and contact the LAA for 
advice before proceeding any further.


Regards,


Jamie

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Date:Mon, 2 Mar, 2015 at 8:06
Subject:Re: KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

It certainly will be an issue if you expect to build and fly your KR under
the UK Light Aircraft Association's Permit to Fly arrangements. I suggest
you look on the LAA website and find a local inspector to guide you through
the system.
http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/inspectors/insp_home_page.html 

There are several UK builders who occasionally post here and might offer you
their advice.

Mike Mold

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Serrano Jr. via KRnet
Sent: 02 March 2015 00:22
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Subject: Re: KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

> How are you planning to use carbon fiber on the spars?? The plans call for
> spruce and ply only.
>
> Larry Flesner

I am deviating from the plans. I hope it will not be too much of an issue.

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2015-03-02 Thread Mike
It certainly will be an issue if you expect to build and fly your KR under
the UK Light Aircraft Association's Permit to Fly arrangements. I suggest
you look on the LAA website and find a local inspector to guide you through
the system.
http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/inspectors/insp_home_page.html 

There are several UK builders who occasionally post here and might offer you
their advice.

Mike Mold

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Sent: 02 March 2015 00:22
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Subject: Re: KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

> How are you planning to use carbon fiber on the spars?  The plans call for
> spruce and ply only.
>
> Larry Flesner

I am deviating from the plans. I hope it will not be too much of an issue.

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2015-03-02 Thread Dan Heath
So, I guess that if you were to build a "one-up", it would be as bad as
building a new certified aircraft here in the US.  Seems like a really good
way to encourage "experimentation".



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As Mike says.





If you're flying under UK law it needs to be built as per plans which is
what the design has been assessed against, unless it's a KR2S in which case
it's as per plans plus some mandatory modifications which the LAA will send
you drawings of.





It is possible to modify from the plans, but mods need to be approved via a
documentation package demonstrating by calculation their safety and
integrity. Structural mods will also require physical load testing.





Dudley Pattison of the Swindon Aircraft Timber Company was good, but I hear
he's trying to retire.





If built under UK law it needs to be built with Sitka Spruce and GL1 grade
birch ply. You can use GL2 ply for non-structural stuff, but I can't think
of anything non-structural on a plans-built KR2 off the top of my head.





I would most strongly suggest you heed Mike's advice and contact the LAA for
advice before proceeding any further.





Regards,





Jamie



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It certainly will be an issue if you expect to build and fly your KR under
the UK Light Aircraft Association's Permit to Fly arrangements. I suggest
you look on the LAA website and find a local inspector to guide you through
the system.

 <http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/inspectors/insp_home_page.html>
http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/inspectors/insp_home_page.html 



There are several UK builders who occasionally post here and might offer you
their advice.



Mike Mold



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> How are you planning to use carbon fiber on the spars?  The plans call 

> for spruce and ply only.

> 

> Larry Flesner



I am deviating from the plans. I hope it will not be too much of an issue.



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2015-03-02 Thread Tinyauto at aol.com


I am a member of the LAA out of the UK just because I have a lot of  
interest in British aircraft.  As I understand it, if you make  modifications 
to 
plans built aircraft in the UK, you have to get the ok from  the engineering 
dept within the LAA.  That spar mod might be an  issue.  

While mentioning the LAA...the monthly magazine is very good.  Right  on 
par with the EAA magazine and maybe better in some ways.  The only  thing I 
get little out of is the political/rules that is gone over every  month.  I 
don't care much for USA rules and I sure don't care about the  rules in the 
UK.  Give me the technical stuff and I am happy.  The  magazine is about $90 a 
year.  

Kevin Golden
Harrisonville, MO
Streak Shadow in progress (from the UK)
Hiperlight SNS 9 with Jabiru




In a message dated 3/1/2015 6:03:06 P.M. Central Standard Time,  kr
net at list.krnet.org writes:

Hi  Guys,

I hope UK based builders can get in touch.

I live in the  Isle of Man and I'm looking for spruce and okoume
plywood suppliers in  the northwest of Britain.

I just ordered flat tow bid uni and triax  carbon fiber fabric for my spars.

I hope to be building the fuse as  soon as possible.

Thank you in  advance.

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KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

2015-03-02 Thread Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
> How are you planning to use carbon fiber on the spars?  The plans call for
> spruce and ply only.
>
> Larry Flesner

I am deviating from the plans. I hope it will not be too much of an issue.



KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

2015-03-02 Thread Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
Hi Guys,

I hope UK based builders can get in touch.

I live in the Isle of Man and I'm looking for spruce and okoume
plywood suppliers in the northwest of Britain.

I just ordered flat tow bid uni and triax carbon fiber fabric for my spars.

I hope to be building the fuse as soon as possible.

Thank you in advance.



KR> UK aircraft grade lumber supplier?

2015-03-01 Thread Flesner
At 06:02 PM 3/1/2015, you wrote:
>I just ordered flat tow bid uni and triax carbon fiber fabric for my spars.
++
How are you planning to use carbon fiber on the spars?  The plans 
call for spruce and ply only.

Larry Flesner