KR> weight and balance article

2013-10-18 Thread Tom


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At 04:44 PM 10/18/2013, you wrote: 
>Ok...I'll agree with that...just seems odd that they would use them as an 
>example for cg. 
++ 

Maybe they referenced them because they were the FIRST to have a CG 
problem with an airplane. :-) 

Larry Flesner 

? What were the figures?? at what points on the flyer did they use?? some 
where along the skids?? Since they invented the air plane and flew it, did they 
also establish the idea of CG?? all history buffs avation wise tell the whole 
story! 
Tom? 
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KR> weight and balance article

2013-10-18 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 04:44 PM 10/18/2013, you wrote:
>Ok...I'll agree with that...just seems odd that they would use them as an
>example for cg.
++

Maybe they referenced them because they were the FIRST to have a CG 
problem with an airplane. :-)

Larry Flesner




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2013-10-18 Thread jon kimmel
Ok...I'll agree with that...just seems odd that they would use them as an
example for cg.  I ran across one article that said if the flyer had been
stable the control surfaces were insufficient to actually control the
plane...they actually used the instability to their advantage...of course
nobody else at the time could fly it until they changed it.

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On Oct 18, 2013 4:23 PM, "Larry&Sallie Flesner" 
wrote:

> At 08:23 AM 10/18/2013, you wrote:
>
>> Google wright flyer unstable and you'll find it.  They did it on purpose.
>> When asked their coined response was something like the pilot should fly
>> the airplane.
>>
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>
> My only real point was that whatever the Wrights did does not discredit
> the article about what we know to be true now.
>
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2013-10-18 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 08:23 AM 10/18/2013, you wrote:
>Google wright flyer unstable and you'll find it.  They did it on purpose.
>When asked their coined response was something like the pilot should fly
>the airplane.
++

My only real point was that whatever the Wrights did does not 
discredit the article about what we know to be true now.

Larry Flesner




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2013-10-18 Thread jon kimmel
Google wright flyer unstable and you'll find it.  They did it on purpose.
When asked their coined response was something like the pilot should fly
the airplane.  My gut feel is they knew they simply didn't have the power
to spare.  They were brilliant.  There are some of their later planes at
the air force museum in dayton...as a bicycle racer/pilot/aerospace
engineer I am constantly amazed when I look at it and see what they could
do with bicycle parts...brake cables and chains and such.

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On Oct 18, 2013 7:07 AM, "Larry&Sallie Flesner" 
wrote:

> At 05:33 AM 10/18/2013, you wrote:
>
>> The article lost some credibility when it referred to the wright
>> brotherssince they intentionally made the wright flyer unstable.
>>
> ++**
>
> Where did you learn the Wright's made their Flyer unstable?  It wasn't in
> the article.Even if they did that doesn't take away from the
> credibility of the article.  They were just learning and we know better
> now.  I thought it was pretty much spot on.
>
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KR> weight and balance article link enclosed

2013-10-18 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 05:33 AM 10/18/2013, you wrote:
>The article lost some credibility when it referred to the wright
>brotherssince they intentionally made the wright flyer unstable.
++

Where did you learn the Wright's made their Flyer unstable?  It 
wasn't in the article.Even if they did that doesn't take away 
from the credibility of the article.  They were just learning and we 
know better now.  I thought it was pretty much spot on.

Larry Flesner