[Bug 1278329] Re: [FFe] Qt 5.2

2014-02-26 Thread Steve Langasek
From a release standpoint, the hurdles put in place of this upload via
the CI process exceed anything the release team would normally require
for such an FFe.  And considering the Ubuntu phone image is currently
the predominant consumer of Qt5, there's no reason to be concerned that
the CI testing won't adequately cover us.  FFe granted.

** Changed in: qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 1278329] Re: [FFe] Qt 5.2

2014-02-23 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Dmitry: The relevant blockers are autopilot test failures and multimedia
on Ubuntu Touch. Some manual autopilot testing with phablet-test-run and
Nexus 4 can be seen at http://is.gd/JA1jg1. The latest news on
multimedia was that they know what needs to be done, but I don't have
the latest update from end of last week.

Additionally there is a handful of new build or unit test failures with
Qt 5.2.1 visible in the PPA, which look minor but need small fixes.

Fixed blockers include Qt 5.2.1 found to fix the can't unblank after
blanking bug and probably others that were lurking with 5.2.0. Many
bugs like crash on start of Dialer + Address book apps have been fixed.
Last week Debian also got up to speed with 5.2.1 so now syncing should
be possible to do properly.

People needed for the remaining fixes should be available this week, but
I will need some confirmations on above issues (when out of my own
hands) before making an updated prediction on the readiness. End of this
week should still be possible if the Qt 5.2.1 is validated as good
enough to fix remaining Touch problems later, although next week seems
more likely.

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[Bug 1278329] Re: [FFe] Qt 5.2

2014-02-21 Thread Dmitry Shachnev
Hi Timo, which of the blockers are still relevant? When do you expect it
to be ready?

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[Bug 1278329] Re: [FFe] Qt 5.2

2014-02-12 Thread Timo Jyrinki
I know this it not a workable solution for U. This is the first ever
major upgrade of Qt 5, because the Qt 5.1.1 already didn't happen
despite plans. 5.2 on the other hand is too important to not have. The
Qt 5.3 timeframe is such that we shouldn't delay moving to that in U,
but just bite the bullet as soon as possible (I expect KDE Frameworks 5
will also move to 5.3). 5.3 should also be about stabilization and
performance according to upstream, which sounds good; the QML engine
rewrite in 5.2 was a quite ambitious project.

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[Bug 1278329] Re: [FFe] Qt 5.2

2014-02-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
What's blocking this from landing now?  This has waited far too long in
my opinion.  I'm afraid we have so many rules about the development
release working perfectly now that it's almost impossible to use for
development.  This is in Debian Testing already.

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[Bug 1278329] Re: [FFe] Qt 5.2

2014-02-11 Thread Timo Jyrinki
You're correct that development release is now kept releasable each day,
and each daily Ubuntu Touch image should be flawless
(http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/trusty/touch/). The new CI Train
integration does not allow code merges to trunks unless they don't
regress those results.

The effects of the development method may not have been discussed enough
after the CI Airline vUDS discussion in November, from which the
current method has evolved. Everything is now worked in silos until they
are perfect, and there are tools to allow that. With Qt it's more manual
ensuring but still similar to smaller components. Parallel work until
all but polishing problems are fixed.

The current Qt 5.2.x blockers include:
- QA team has started testing 5.2.0, but only this week we've gotten tools to 
create system images using the PPA to be able to get more automated testing
- No multimedia related apps work yet because of lacking qtmultimedia-touch 
(Multimedia team is working on this)
- Some critical bugs making Touch images unusable like the inability to turn 
the screen back on once it has blanked
- The V4 engine is seen a bit risky considering the already identified bugs, so 
the complete 5.2.1 release seems better all around
- 5.2.1 has not been tested yet by QA team. The packaging syncs I've done with 
5.2.1 may cause some rebuild problems since the mkspecs directory changed.
- Debian has part of the 5.2.1 in experimental now, with more coming. I'd like 
to see all of 5.2.1 syncable from Debian for those modules that can be synced 
(most of them).

Lastly, the process of uploading and building the 20 Qt modules and
rebuilding 80 source packages, taking into account the dependencies and
architectures, may take several days in case there are any last minute
surprises that weren't noticed even with careful preparation.

All in all, 2.5 weeks from now sounds like something when pieces could
fall together. I'm putting 5.2.1 into use right now, which should be the
start of the final push.

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Re: [Bug 1278329] Re: [FFe] Qt 5.2

2014-02-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
Starting next cycle, Kubuntu will be a major user of Qt5.  Landing the major 
Qt5 revision just days before, or maybe even after, feature freeze, is totally 
unworkable.  I think we're likely not to introduce KDE Frameworks 5 packages 
in this development cycle, but to do post-release backports once it's more 
mature, so it turns out not to have a major impact for 14.04, but something 
better will have to be thought out for U.

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