Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-10 Thread Rimas Kudelis

2010.12.10 00:54, Martin Srebotnjak rašė:

2010/12/9 Rimas Kudelisr...@akl.lt:

Again, I don't really have experience with corporate software installation,
but I would guess that downloading the installer is not the biggest issue
there. However, your suggestion to allow telling the installer to just
download files for offline installation is a good one, and it should be
considered by LibO people.


Also, Rimas et. al. (since you are the only one responding to my mails
:) ), two more things I would like to point out:

1) the help size cannot be the reason to lose the help from packages -
it is mostly text that should be nicely squeezable/zippable, and only
10-15 pictures in all help content are localizable, all of the rest
are the same for all languages (!), so they would not need to be
duplicated in full all-languages build;

2) Multi-lang installer should offer multi-lang installation interface
- the first page should be a page to select installer language that
could be changed at runtime, IMHO


Agreed.

Is this all being documented in the wiki/Bugzilla anywhere? If not, it 
should.


Rimas


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[libreoffice-l10n] Kind of odd with pootle

2010-12-10 Thread Tseng, Cheng-Chia
Please see the link below which shows 380/393 strings translated.
http://pootle.documentfoundation.org/zh_TW/libo33/

However, the po file downloaded form pootle is 380/380 strings translated,
is there any new .pot file I have missed?

And how can I fix it?
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kind of odd with pootle

2010-12-10 Thread Rimas Kudelis

2010.12.10 14:02, Tseng, Cheng-Chia rašė:

Please see the link below which shows 380/393 strings translated.
http://pootle.documentfoundation.org/zh_TW/libo33/

However, the po file downloaded form pootle is 380/380 strings translated,
is there any new .pot file I have missed?


Nope. And when you click on the file name, you see correct numbers. It's 
just a problem with Pootle, ignore it.


Rimas


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kind of odd with pootle

2010-12-10 Thread Aron Xu
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 20:02, Tseng, Cheng-Chia pswo10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please see the link below which shows 380/393 strings translated.
 http://pootle.documentfoundation.org/zh_TW/libo33/

 However, the po file downloaded form pootle is 380/380 strings translated,
 is there any new .pot file I have missed?

 And how can I fix it?
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Open http://pootle.documentfoundation.org/zh_TW/libo33/admin_files.html
and click Rescan project files, this may help.

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[libreoffice-l10n] [NEW STRINGS] added readme +84 messages (1945 words)

2010-12-10 Thread Andras Timar
Hi Localizers,

As you may read earlier on this list, a new readme was written for
LibreOffice but it was not noticed by us and it was not offered for
translation. Tonight Thorsten fixed the last bits, the readme is final.

I updated the pot/po files in git. Rimas, I hope you are around and you
can update Pootle.

I'll grab your translations Sunday night for RC2. Hint: you must not use
p tags in your translation, because it breaks the readme for all
languages (I've just fixed one bug in sh/sr translation).

Some testers reported that they found references to Oracle and
OpenOffice.org in localized LibreOffice readmes. I'll remove all
conflicting lines from old translations. If you don't translate this
readme update, then you'll have English paragraphs - but not misleading
translated paragraphs.

Let me know, if you have any questions or comments.

Thanks,
Andras

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [NEW STRINGS] added readme +84 messages (1945 words)

2010-12-10 Thread Sophie Gautier

On 11/12/2010 08:17, Tseng, Cheng-Chia wrote:

There is a string called Also check the FAQ section ata href=\
http://www.libreoffice.org/faq/\;http://www.libreoffice.org/faq/./a.

I cannot get the link, is that http://www.documentfoundation.org/faq/instead?


The site is currently not live, it will be for the final release, 
currently you can reach it from here :

http://test.libreoffice.org/

I'll ask on the website list for the FAQ tab to be back...

Kind regards
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [NEW STRINGS] added readme +84 messages (1945 words)

2010-12-10 Thread Tseng, Cheng-Chia
String The are available from the same location as the main installation
archive. has a typo.

It should be They are...

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 11/12/2010 08:17, Tseng, Cheng-Chia wrote:

 There is a string called Also check the FAQ section ata href=\
 http://www.libreoffice.org/faq/\ http://www.libreoffice.org/faq/%5C
 http://www.libreoffice.org/faq/./a.

 I cannot get the link, is that
 http://www.documentfoundation.org/faq/instead?


 The site is currently not live, it will be for the final release, currently
 you can reach it from here :
 http://test.libreoffice.org/

 I'll ask on the website list for the FAQ tab to be back...

 Kind regards
 Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [NEW STRINGS] added readme +84 messages (1945 words)

2010-12-10 Thread Andras Timar
2010.12.11. 7:45 keltezéssel, Tseng, Cheng-Chia írta:
 String The are available from the same location as the main installation
 archive. has a typo.
 
 It should be They are...
 

I fixed this typo in the source and in pot/po files too.

Thanks,
Andras

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-10 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Kendy,

you really do not expect us to edit/translate the help via wiki? To
have wiki as the main localization infrastructure?

Lp, m.

2010/12/11 David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz:
 Hi Kendy, :-)

 On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 06:42, Jan Holesovsky ke...@suse.cz wrote:
 I got just 2 additional bugreports, I am not sure it is enough ;-)

 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32290
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32291

 All four are fixed now, but please - really test it.  Until we are sure
 that the quality of the conversion tool is good enough, it makes no
 sense to upload the l10n versions of the help - it would unnecessarily
 blow the size of the database with every improvement of the conversion
 tool.

 I have heard quite some complaints about the missing native language
 versions already; I am not sure I've explained it well enough
 previously, but this testing is blocking it.  So please - help me :-)

 Personally, I'm taken up this weekend with other work for LibO but,
 next week when I have more time, I will definitely look at the
 WikiHelp and do my best to provide practical help.

 David Nelson

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[libreoffice-l10n] The WordForge Localization Editor

2010-12-10 Thread Javier Sola

Dear Friends,

I would like to announce that we have just released version 0.8beta of 
the WordForge localization editor.


The WordForge Editor is specially prepared for working with either XLIFF 
or PO OpenOffice files.


If XLIFF files are used, then the number of features is much bigger, as 
it is possible to keep much more information in the files.


Some of its most important features are:

1) Immediate testing of quality of translation

-It recognizes OpenOffice variables, XML structures, and other 
constructions that must be replicated identically in the target, and 
gives an error if they are not present.
- It recognizes OpenOffice accelerator keys, and ignores them in 
glossary and TM use.
- It can also test the most usual problems in strings, such as extra or 
missing spaces, punctuation (it can check punctuation in scripts other 
than English).

- It can test correct use of glossary, if glossary is available.
- It can test correct replication of functions, URLs, e-mail addresses 
and many other types of objects in the target.


Errors can be overidden by the user, but they are recorded in XLIFF 
files (not the case in POs).
Files and full projects can be tested, and the strings that have errors 
will be marked for analysis.

Which tests to run in real time can be easily parametrized by user.

A file that is translated in the WordForge Editor with the testing 
feature enabled should always pass GSICHECK without any problems.


2) Glossary support.

- Glossaries are entered in the system, and then glossary words are 
indicated in the source string, and translation is given in a separate 
window.


3) Translation memory.

- Translation memory can be applied to files in a very flexible way, in 
some cases putting suggestions in the target (if the user wants to) and 
in some other cases it is stored in XLIFF files (or as temporary 
suggestions if working with PO).


4) Use of reference (third) languages

5) Embedding of glossary and Translation memories in XLIFF files.

- A translation manager can take all the files of a project, and embed 
in them the relevant glossary and translation memory. Only the glossary 
terms that are relevant to a file are embedded in the file (a subset of 
the complete glossary), and only TM suggestions that the translation 
manager choses to embed are embedded (percentage of match, etc.).
- Using this, the translation manager can send out files for translation 
to the team without needing them to have either the glossary or the TM, 
as everything is in the file.


6) Spell-checking of target.

7) Thesaurus for both source and target.

8) Filters for OpenOffice and other formats are accessed through the 
graphic user interface.


  - Fully functional filters for OpenOffice SDF  to/from XLIFF format 
are available, as well as an XLIFF upgrade filter


9) Files are packed into projects

 - Batch operation on glossary and TM can be done on all the files of a 
project at the same time.


Linux and Windows version of the editor are available in:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/wordforge2/

Regards,

Javier




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