Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 3.3 End Of Life and will be removed from Pootle
Þann fös 4.nóv 2011 07:12, skrifaði André Schnabel: Hi, Am 04.11.2011 03:36, schrieb Nguyễn Vũ Hưng: On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 06:53, Andras Timartima...@gmail.com wrote: I meant, if some teams wanted to archive for themselves It may sound nooblish but could you explain what do you mean by archive Download the full set of po files for your language (as zip) and store it at your favourite place for archiving files ;) ... which can then be read into your Translation Memory of choice for being able to get suggestions based on older strings while translating offline ... :-) Sveinn -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 3.3 End Of Life and will be removed from Pootle
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 14:57, Sveinn í Felli svei...@nett.is wrote:
Download the full set of po files for your language (as zip)
and store it at your favourite place for archiving files ;)
... which can then be read into your Translation Memory of choice for being
able to get suggestions based on older strings while translating offline ...
:-)
Thanks for the explanation :)
I thought that LibO already does that for us?
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 3.3 End Of Life and will be removed from Pootle
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 16:15, Sveinn í Felli svei...@nett.is wrote:
Not really; Pootle can create a terminology file which you can then edit.
Terminology is mostly a word-by-word aide to have consistent terms in your
texts and can be used in Pootle itself (as well as in many offline editors).
Yes, if one uses pootle to translate; which is a perfect place to
quick fix translation bugs.
I prefer poedit for big po file transation.
Normally I work with several different TM's; one for business texts, another
for UI-strings and Help, and a specific one for networking jargon. Depends
on your language and workflow.
That is amazing and I'd want you to share the tools and the workflow of yours.
You can create those TM's with some of the Translate Toolkit on the CLI
(e.g. po2tmx); you can also do it with some of the offline-editors which
either let you add all opened files to the TM or even are capable to parse
through a folder structure of choice.
This is where it can be handy to keep archives of older files.
Now I understand why we need (various) archived po files at the end
of release cycles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Translate_Toolkit
http://socialsourcecommons.org/toolbox/show/1107
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-assisted_translation
Which ones are you using?
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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-projects] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC2 available
Heinz W. Simoneit píše v Pá 04. 11. 2011 v 08:27 +0100: Petr Mladek schrieb: I wonder if it is something new in 3.4.4 or if it was already in 3.4.3 or other earlier releases. didn'thave this issue in 3.4.3 -- but in earlier releases. I am a bit mixed. Did it work in 3.4.3? Was it broken in an earlier version? What was the earlier version? It sounds strange if it worked in 3.4.3, was broken in older versions and got broken again in 3.4.4. Also, I wonder if it happens only with the MySQL connector (3rd party exstension?) or if you see it also with other database drivers. I'm using MySQL connector eternally. Tried ODBC with early OOo without great success... MySQL connector now: 1.0.1 I see :-( Anyway, please, report it into bugzilla. Will do it later on. Thanks a lot in advance. Best Regards, Petr -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC2 available
Errr it's great to see Scots Gaelic there (gd) but who picked the word Gaeilge (which means Irish)? What's the quickest way of getting that fixes? It should say Gàidhlig. Should I file a bug? Cheers Michael 04/11/2011 11:13, sgrìobh Thorsten Behrens: Dear Community, The Document Foundation is happy to announce the second release candidate of LibreOffice 3.4.4. The upcoming 3.4.4 will be the fourth in a series of frequent bugfix releases for our 3.4 code line. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC2 is not yet ready for production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.3.4 and 3.4.3 for that. The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA builds download page at http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC2 available
2011/11/4 Michael Bauer f...@akerbeltz.org: Errr it's great to see Scots Gaelic there (gd) but who picked the word Gaeilge (which means Irish)? What's the quickest way of getting that fixes? It should say Gàidhlig. Should I file a bug? Where did you see Gaeilge? Cheers, Andras -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC2 available
The dropdown on http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ Michael 04/11/2011 11:40, sgrìobh Andras Timar: 2011/11/4 Michael Bauerf...@akerbeltz.org: Errr it's great to see Scots Gaelic there (gd) but who picked the word Gaeilge (which means Irish)? What's the quickest way of getting that fixes? It should say Gàidhlig. Should I file a bug? Where did you see Gaeilge? Cheers, Andras -- *Akerbeltz http://www.faclair.com/* Goireasan Gàidhlig air an lìon Fòn: +44-141-946 4437 Facs: +44-141-945 2701 *Tha Gàidhlig aig an lìon - feuch e:* Am Faclair Beag http://www.faclair.com/ ◦ Addtoany http://www.addtoany.com/buttons/ ◦ Firefox http://www.mozilla.com/gd/ ◦ Google http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=gd ◦ Joomla! http://community.joomla.org/translations/joomla-16-translations.html ◦ Thunderbird http://www.mozillamessaging.com/gd/thunderbird/ ◦ Opera 11 http://www.opera.com/ ◦ Opera Mini http://www.opera.com/mobile/ ◦ Uicipeid http://gd.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr%C3%AComh-Dhuilleag ◦ MediaWiki http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki *Innealan do chleachdaichean Firefox/Thunderbird/OpenOffice:* Accentuate https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/accentuateus/ ◦ An Dearbhair Beag (Mozilla) https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/scottish-gaelic-spell-checker/ ◦ An Dearbhair Beag (OO) http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/faclair-afb ◦ Lightning http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/lightning/ ◦ QLS https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/quick-locale-switcher/ *Spòrs: *An Crochadair http://www.foramnagaidhlig.net/stuth/geamannan/crochadair/ ◦ FreeCiv http://www.foramnagaidhlig.net/foram/viewtopic.php?f=28t=1971 ◦ LiChess http://gd.lichess.org/ ◦ Scrabble http://scrabble.game-server.cc/wiki/index.php/Main_Page/gd ◦ Tetris http://www.foramnagaidhlig.net/stuth/geamannan/tetris/ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 3.3 End Of Life and will be removed from Pootle
Op Vr, 2011-11-04 om 16:22 +0700 skryf Nguyễn Vũ Hưng: On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 16:15, Sveinn í Felli svei...@nett.is wrote: Not really; Pootle can create a terminology file which you can then edit. Terminology is mostly a word-by-word aide to have consistent terms in your texts and can be used in Pootle itself (as well as in many offline editors). Yes, if one uses pootle to translate; which is a perfect place to quick fix translation bugs. I prefer poedit for big po file transation. I agree that Pootle is ideal for quick fixes and for many aspects of team work and review. It is also great for searching through all files in a project. An offline editor can be useful in other cases. See also my other email about future features of Pootle and how we try to narrow the feature gap. Normally I work with several different TM's; one for business texts, another for UI-strings and Help, and a specific one for networking jargon. Depends on your language and workflow. That is amazing and I'd want you to share the tools and the workflow of yours. Virtaal stores all local TM in a database which can be swapped out if you want (a single database file in your profile). It also allows to enable/disable different plugins for translation memory as you prefer. I don't think a lot of people are interested in this kind of customisability if they only translate software GUIs and help, but of course some people might want to do so anyway. You can create those TM's with some of the Translate Toolkit on the CLI (e.g. po2tmx); you can also do it with some of the offline-editors which either let you add all opened files to the TM or even are capable to parse through a folder structure of choice. This is where it can be handy to keep archives of older files. Now I understand why we need (various) archived po files at the end of release cycles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Translate_Toolkit http://socialsourcecommons.org/toolbox/show/1107 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-assisted_translation Which ones are you using? The Translate Toolkit can combine lots of PO files into a TMX file with po2tmx. You can import the translated strings from any supported file into Virtaal's TM by saving it inside Virtaal. (Saving might be disabled if you only openend it, so just add and remove a space to enable 'Save'.) If you want to import a lot of PO files into the TM database of Virtaal, you can also use the script from the Translate Toolkit called build_tmdb. Keep well Friedel -- Recently on my blog: http://translate.org.za/blogs/friedel/en/content/firefox-maybe-now-most-popular-africa -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] translation memory (was: LibreOffice 3.3 End Of Life and will be removed from Pootle)
Op Vr, 2011-11-04 om 09:15 + skryf Sveinn í Felli: Þann fös 4.nóv 2011 08:19, skrifaði Nguyễn Vũ Hưng: On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 14:57, Sveinn í Fellisvei...@nett.is wrote: Download the full set of po files for your language (as zip) and store it at your favourite place for archiving files ;) ... which can then be read into your Translation Memory of choice for being able to get suggestions based on older strings while translating offline ... :-) Thanks for the explanation :) I thought that LibO already does that for us? Not really; Pootle can create a terminology file which you can then edit. Terminology is mostly a word-by-word aide to have consistent terms in your texts and can be used in Pootle itself (as well as in many offline editors). For reference, here is the information about this functionality in Pootle: http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/pootle/terminology_matching Similar terminology matching is available in Virtaal. Translation Memory Database (TM) works with one or many words (segments) so that one can have suggestions on longer text strings - some translation software lets you decide how close matches you want as suggestions, and to construct rules about word order and such. For the upcoming version of Pootle we have support for translation memory during translation. The new version isn't quite ready for release yet, but we have already used it successfully at some localisation events and it looks very promising. It uses an online Translation Memory service that we can keep up to date with the latest translations of things like LibreOffice. This service is already available with Virtaal 0.7. I don't think the current TM database has the very latest LibreOffice translations, but we can hopefully do a refresh of the data quite soon. If people are able to help in testing or giving the last bit of refinement for the upcoming Pootle release, that would be great to speed up the process. A testing server for the upcoming release is available here: http://test.locamotion.org/ It is loaded with some old copy of the database of our main Pootle server. All data entered there will be lost at some stage, but feel free to play around. You can see a translation memory result here, for example: http://test.locamotion.org/fr/virtaal/fr.po/translate/#unit=187419 Keep well Friedel -- Recently on my blog: http://translate.org.za/blogs/friedel/en/content/firefox-maybe-now-most-popular-africa -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-projects] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC2 available
Hi Petr (sic!), *, Petr Mladek schrieb: Heinz W. Simoneit píše v Pá 04. 11. 2011 v 08:27 +0100: Petr Mladek schrieb: I wonder if it is something new in 3.4.4 or if it was already in 3.4.3 or other earlier releases. didn'thave this issue in 3.4.3 -- but in earlier releases. I am a bit mixed. Did it work in 3.4.3? Was it broken in an earlier version? What was the earlier version? It sounds strange if it worked in 3.4.3, was broken in older versions and got broken again in 3.4.4. sorry! :-) It worked in 3.4.3. Before that I tried 3.3. and some versions out of the Debian-repo. One of them was broken too - i don't exactly remember which one. :-[ Best, Heinz -- Have a nice time! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-projects] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC2 available
Hi Peter, *, Petr Mladek schrieb: Hello Heinz, On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 08:20 +0100, Heinz W. Simoneit wrote: drew schrieb: On Wed, 2011-11-02 at 17:24 +0100, Heinz W. Simoneit wrote: tried basics in (de-) - writer - calc - base (MySQL-DB) without any probs. One minor flaw in base: When opening a table by double-click it doesn't stay opened -- you have to right-click and open. Running Ubuntu 10.10 (AMD64), Gnome - no problem opening a table with dbl-click? (only checked for embedded DB and SQLite w/ODBC) running Debian testing (AMD64), KDE 4.6.5, MySQL Connector. When dbl-clicking table opens and closes at once. Right-click and open works fine. Great catch! I wonder if it is something new in 3.4.4 or if it was already in 3.4.3 or other earlier releases. didn'thave this issue in 3.4.3 -- but in earlier releases. Also, I wonder if it happens only with the MySQL connector (3rd party exstension?) or if you see it also with other database drivers. I'm using MySQL connector eternally. Tried ODBC with early OOo without great success... MySQL connector now: 1.0.1 Anyway, please, report it into bugzilla. Will do it later on. Thanks for testing and feedback. Welcome! :-) Best, Heinz -- Have a nice time! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
