[libreoffice-l10n] Search for strings in Pootle
Hi Is the search funciotn realllyyy working in our Pootle installation? Two issues I am facing, while I am at the root tree of teh UI or HC. - I can't find a tring by a given keyID... - In one out of three trials I can find a string in the repo. Some obvious and unique strings returns nothing (and has no accelerator). Am I the only one who miss such feature? Thanks -- Olivier Hallot Founder, Board of Directors Member - The Document Foundation LibreOffice translation leader for Brazilian Portuguese +55-21-8822-8812 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Search for strings in Pootle
2011/11/28 Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org Hi Is the search funciotn realllyyy working in our Pootle installation? Two issues I am facing, while I am at the root tree of teh UI or HC. - I can't find a tring by a given keyID... Neither can I. This is a must have. If now we have keyID to identify strings, but can´t find them (by search) at pootle what do we need them for? - In one out of three trials I can find a string in the repo. Some obvious and unique strings returns nothing (and has no accelerator). Sometimes happens to me. Same words different days. In one appears, on the other doesn´t. Regards -- Sérgio Marques -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Search for strings in Pootle
2011/11/28 Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com: 2011/11/28 Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org Hi Is the search funciotn realllyyy working in our Pootle installation? Two issues I am facing, while I am at the root tree of teh UI or HC. - I can't find a tring by a given keyID... Neither can I. This is a must have. If now we have keyID to identify strings, but can´t find them (by search) at pootle what do we need them for? For KeyID search, in Search dropdown tick the Comment checkbox, too. Make sure you read the KeyID well (e.g. 0 is not O and l is not I). Best regards, Andras -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Search for strings in Pootle
2011/11/28 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com 2011/11/28 Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com: 2011/11/28 Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org Hi Is the search funciotn realllyyy working in our Pootle installation? Two issues I am facing, while I am at the root tree of teh UI or HC. - I can't find a tring by a given keyID... Neither can I. This is a must have. If now we have keyID to identify strings, but can´t find them (by search) at pootle what do we need them for? For KeyID search, in Search dropdown tick the Comment checkbox, too. Make sure you read the KeyID well (e.g. 0 is not O and l is not I). Best regards, Andras Done that. Still doesn´t work. Can You please check: M0JU Ne9f 7T_Q #tUX Lri2 I really can´t find them but Olivier said that they exist. Regards -- Sérgio Marques -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Search for strings in Pootle
2011/11/28 Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com 2011/11/28 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com 2011/11/28 Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com: 2011/11/28 Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org Hi Is the search funciotn realllyyy working in our Pootle installation? Two issues I am facing, while I am at the root tree of teh UI or HC. - I can't find a tring by a given keyID... Neither can I. This is a must have. If now we have keyID to identify strings, but can´t find them (by search) at pootle what do we need them for? For KeyID search, in Search dropdown tick the Comment checkbox, too. Make sure you read the KeyID well (e.g. 0 is not O and l is not I). Best regards, Andras Done that. Still doesn´t work. Can You please check: M0JU Ne9f 7T_Q #tUX Lri2 I really can´t find them but Olivier said that they exist. Hi Olivier, I´ve tested some other KeyID and search works with them. Maybe KeyID You gave me are incorrect? It could help if You tell me where did you find the errors. Something like location or some part of the strings. Regards -- Sérgio Marques -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Search for strings in Pootle
2011/11/28 Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com: 2011/11/28 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com 2011/11/28 Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com: 2011/11/28 Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org Hi Is the search funciotn realllyyy working in our Pootle installation? Two issues I am facing, while I am at the root tree of teh UI or HC. - I can't find a tring by a given keyID... Neither can I. This is a must have. If now we have keyID to identify strings, but can´t find them (by search) at pootle what do we need them for? For KeyID search, in Search dropdown tick the Comment checkbox, too. Make sure you read the KeyID well (e.g. 0 is not O and l is not I). Best regards, Andras Done that. Still doesn´t work. Can You please check: M0JU Other languages have M0JU. pt and pt_BR does not have them. See for example: https://translations.documentfoundation.org/fr/libo35x_ui/translate.html?search=M0JUsfields=sourcesfields=targetsfields=notessfields=locations Did you modify your files outside Pootle? Best regards, Andras -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Search for strings in Pootle
2011/11/28 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com 2011/11/28 Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com: 2011/11/28 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com 2011/11/28 Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com: 2011/11/28 Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org Hi Is the search funciotn realllyyy working in our Pootle installation? Two issues I am facing, while I am at the root tree of teh UI or HC. - I can't find a tring by a given keyID... Neither can I. This is a must have. If now we have keyID to identify strings, but can´t find them (by search) at pootle what do we need them for? For KeyID search, in Search dropdown tick the Comment checkbox, too. Make sure you read the KeyID well (e.g. 0 is not O and l is not I). Best regards, Andras Done that. Still doesn´t work. Can You please check: M0JU Other languages have M0JU. pt and pt_BR does not have them. See for example: https://translations.documentfoundation.org/fr/libo35x_ui/translate.html?search=M0JUsfields=sourcesfields=targetsfields=notessfields=locations Did you modify your files outside Pootle? No I didn´t. And when I went to referenced string M0JU appears as KeyID . What about other 4 KeyID? Noticed anything wrong? -- Sérgio Marques -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Inconsistencies with percent and degree signs
Hi Mihkel, 2011/11/27 Mihkel Tõnnov mihh...@gmail.com: Hi *, I found a few inconsistencies regarding the usage of % and ° signs in LibreOffice, esp. the 3.5 branch. In most places, where a number has % or ° sign after it, there is no space between them. However: 1) In the View - Zoom dialog, there's 100 %. 2) In the new Color Picker dialog (e.g. Tools - Options - Colors - Edit), all % and ° signs are separated from numbers with a space. Even if there is no consensus about the % in English [1], the degree sign shouldn't be spaced in that context [2], and the usage should certainly be consistent within one project. Many thanks for the bug report. I pushed the fix a few minutes ago. Best regards, Andras -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice name hardcoded
Hi Olivier, On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Em 26-11-2011 10:07, Christian Lohmaier escreveu: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org wrote: I noticed that the name LibreOffice is hardcoded in some places at least in the UI... Usually we use %PRODUCTNAME ... e.g. Extension requires at least LibreOffice version %VERSION This is exactly the same reason as for the OpenOffice.org string in the other thread → see http://www.mail-archive.com/l10n@global.libreoffice.org/msg03489.html Allow me to disagree in this case, although it comes close... Well, everybody is entitled to his/her own opinion. If I rebrand LO as WhateverOffice, then the string will be Extension requires at least WhateverOffice version %VERSION No. As you wrote yourself it is not using the placeholder, but hardcodes LibreOffice. Again: The extension doesn't care about what brand of the software you're running - those things refer to the API compatibility as defined by the reference implementation LibreOffice version Or, in an attempt to remove ambiguities, we should say perhaps: Extension requires at least a version of WhateverOffice compatible with OpenOffice.org version %VERSION, This use long for no specific reason. But yes, that is the meaning. But that message is useless, as the user cannot tell what version of WhateverOffice will correspond to that. since we are still umbilically connected to our OOo mothercode, extension-wise. *still*. Yes. But just refer to the links I posted in the other message. This explains why there is the need for both hardcoded OpenOffice.org as well as LibreOffice strings. Even your suggestion will not work without those hardcoded strings. you would then just have an additional %PRODUCTNAME in the string. I don't know whether that string is displayed in its own dialog (and thus the length would not really matter) or whether it is displayed in a single line in some statusarea of another dialog. Feel free to suggest a change to Extension requires at least a version of %PRODUCTNAME compatible with OpenOffice.org version %VERSION, and Extension requires at least a version of %PRODUCTNAME compatible with LibreOffice version %VERSION So you can have an *additional* %PRODUCTNAME, but the hardcoded OpenOffice.org or LibreOffice must stay. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[PUSHED] ast-ES date and currency formats (was: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] added possessive genitive case month names, HEADS UP localizers ;-))
Hi Xuacu, On Sunday, 2011-11-27 17:51:04 +0100, Xuacu Saturio wrote: New (and hopefully last) version of ast_ES.xml available here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13043022/LibreOffice/ast_ES.xml Looks good, pushed to master http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=56a6704509bd24ac699d9ee9e4c430225f1b07cd Thanks Eike -- LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer. GnuPG key 0x293C05FD : 997A 4C60 CE41 0149 0DB3 9E96 2F1A D073 293C 05FD -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] added possessive genitive case month names, HEADS UP localizers ; -)
Hi Martin, On Sunday, 2011-11-27 20:52:00 +0100, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: So, what should I do for Slovenian. If Slovenian uses genitive case month names in dates (I guess it does) then please obtain the current Slovenian locale data file http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/plain/i18npool/source/localedata/data/sl_SI.xml and add the GenitiveMonths (and possibly PartitiveMonths) elements as described below. When done send the file as attachment back to me, personally as this list strips attachments. I am not sure about the usefulness of this, it might come handy. So is there a way I translate these strings and then try with beta0 with some switch in the conf file or somewhere and decide what is best? There will be no switch. Maybe this overview will help: * Locale data (submitted by localizer): * MonthsOfYear element, nominative (nouns) month names * always specified * includes Month, MonthID, DefaultAbbrvName and DefautFullName elements * GenitiveMonths element, genitive case month names * optional * follows the MonthsOfYear element * consists of same elements as MonthsOfYear element * if GenitiveMonths are not specified then MonthsOfYear names are used * PartitiveMonths element, partitive case month names * optional * follows the GenitiveMonths element, or follows the MonthsOfYear element if the GenitiveMonths element is not specified * consists of same elements as MonthsOfYear element * if PartitiveMonths are not specified then GenitiveMonths names are used, if that is not specified then MonthsOfYear names are used * Rules for use of nominative / genitive / partitive case month names in number formatter when encountering MMM or : * MMM or immediately preceded or followed by a literal character other than space = nominative month name (noun), for Excel and backwards compatibility such as Finnish ta * no day of month (D or DD) present in format code = nominative name * day of month (D or DD) after MMM or = genitive name * no genitive names defined = nominative names * day of month (D or DD) before MMM or = partitive name * no partitive names defined = genitive names * no genitive names defined = nominative names * NOTE: if only MonthsOfYear and PartitiveMonths are specified but not GenitiveMonths, then for D(D) MMM(M) formats the MonthsOfYear nominative name is displayed. Only for MMM(M) D(D) formats the PartitiveMonths name is displayed. Eike -- LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer. GnuPG key 0x293C05FD : 997A 4C60 CE41 0149 0DB3 9E96 2F1A D073 293C 05FD -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] added possessive genitive case month names, HEADS UP localizers ;-)
Hi Michael, On Monday, 2011-11-28 16:47:35 +, Michael Bauer wrote: By the way, please assume the gd.xml and any further contributions of code I make as being under LGPLv3+ and MPL 1.1 or whatever else is appropriate. Great, thanks. Eike -- LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer. GnuPG key 0x293C05FD : 997A 4C60 CE41 0149 0DB3 9E96 2F1A D073 293C 05FD -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] added possessive genitive case month names, HEADS UP localizers ; -)
Hi, On Monday, 2011-11-28 18:21:07 +0100, Eike Rathke wrote: * NOTE: if only MonthsOfYear and PartitiveMonths are specified but not GenitiveMonths, then for D(D) MMM(M) formats the MonthsOfYear nominative name is displayed. Only for MMM(M) D(D) formats the PartitiveMonths name is displayed. Bah, fingers crossed sense.. this is of course vice versa and should read: * NOTE: * if only MonthsOfYear and PartitiveMonths are specified but not GenitiveMonths, then for MMM(M) D(D) formats the MonthsOfYear nominative name is displayed. Only for D(D) MMM(M) formats the PartitiveMonths name is displayed. * if only for MMM(M) D(D) formats the GenitiveMonths are to be displayed but nominative names for D(D) MMM(M), then specify PartitiveMonths identical to MonthsOfYear, do not omit it as otherwise it would inherit from GenitiveMonths again. Eike -- LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer. GnuPG key 0x293C05FD : 997A 4C60 CE41 0149 0DB3 9E96 2F1A D073 293C 05FD -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [PUSHED] an-ES locale data
Thanks Eike for pushing the changes on an-ES locale data. I also state that this (an_ES.xlm) an further contributions of code that I make are under LGPLv3+ and MPL 1.1 license. I cc to the mailing list. Best, Juan Pablo El 28/11/2011 19:15, Eike Rathke escribió: Hi Juan, On Monday, 2011-11-28 11:51:16 +0100, Juan Pablo Martínez Cortés wrote: I send you the diff file for the changes needed in the locale. Thanks, looks good, pushed to master http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=e34584e74201bc2264c907e06c4f8b0026bd1f98 Nice work on the IndexKey btw, I only joined the lines again as everything between XML element tags is taken as data, including the line feeds. Sorry for reacting so late. No problem, there's enough for me to do :) I added the genitive forms (adding the preposition de or d' (i.e., of) at the beginning, similar to catalan or asturian), and took the opportunity to fix some errors and do some additional small changes. So, please, modify the an_ES locale when possible. My doubt now is whether LongDateMonthSeparater should be now voided. Currently it is like that:LongDateMonthSeparator de /LongDateMonthSeparator That's fine. But I don't want the months to have double preposition 8 de de chinero (like 8 of of april). No, they don't, the separator is not used in formatting, only in parsing. As this was your first contribution to the actual code base, please send us a blanket statement that this and your further contributions will be under LGPLv3+ and MPL 1.1 license, either to the mailing list or to me. Thanks Eike -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Is help- about menu translated in your language?
Þann þri 29.nóv 2011 00:21, skrifaði Lior Kaplan: Hi, I've noticed something for the Hebrew l10n packs, and wanted to confirm with the rest of you - the help-about window is always in English, although the strings are translated in pootle (a long time ago). Tested in both 3.4.4 and 3.5.0-dev with Hebrew langpack. Kaplan For 3.4.4. in Icelandic it's translated. Sveinn -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Is help- about menu translated in your language?
2011/11/29 Sveinn í Felli svei...@nett.is Þann þri 29.nóv 2011 00:21, skrifaði Lior Kaplan: Hi, I've noticed something for the Hebrew l10n packs, and wanted to confirm with the rest of you - the help-about window is always in English, although the strings are translated in pootle (a long time ago). Tested in both 3.4.4 and 3.5.0-dev with Hebrew langpack. Kaplan For 3.4.4. in Icelandic it's translated. In Estonian 3.4.4 it's translated as well. In Estonian 3.5 daily snapshot (2011-11-25) it's untranslated, but that's probably because the strings changed for 3.5 and the translations of 3.5 from Pootle haven't/hadn't been pushed to Git yet. Regards, Mihkel -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted