Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Locale data date acceptance patterns, localizers HEADS UP please :)
Hi Jean-Baptiste, On Sunday, 2012-01-15 07:34:09 +0100, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: I think for fr_FR we need D/M. Asked for other FR variants on discuss@fr ML. Any news on that? If not, I'll just add D/M Eike -- LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer. GnuPG key 0x293C05FD : 997A 4C60 CE41 0149 0DB3 9E96 2F1A D073 293C 05FD -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Locale data date acceptance patterns, localizers HEADS UP please :)
Hi Yury, On Wednesday, 2012-01-18 09:24:42 +0200, Yury Tarasievich wrote: Of course, if the functionality is there, anyway, and has to be fed something, even such not-quite-intuitive forms will do. It doesn't _have_ to be fed something, without a specific pattern only input of a full date (here D.M.Y) yields a date and input of incomplete dates will not be possible. *In fact, I hereby request D/M/ and D.M. for the be_BY, please.* No problem, would do, but ... But it would be ever so better to have a possibility for computer to not second-guess at all, as such guesses might even be culturally irrelevant. ... I'm confused now, does be-BY want incomplete date patterns, yes or no? Eike -- LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer. GnuPG key 0x293C05FD : 997A 4C60 CE41 0149 0DB3 9E96 2F1A D073 293C 05FD -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Locale data date acceptance patterns, localizers HEADS UP please :)
Hi Niklas, On Tuesday, 2012-01-17 11:09:57 +0100, Niklas Johansson wrote: [... time separator ...] Is it possible to accept both . and : as separators? No, only one is possible. Common dateformats that LibreOffice doesn't support for Swedish include: D/M D/M EU-standard (not seen that often but since were in the EU and all EU documents , use this format it would be a good thing to support): D.M D.M. Which standard would that be? I only know of EN 28601 that followed ISO 8601. The SS-ISO 8601 standard -MM-DD is the most frequently used format and the current standard for Swedish in LibreOffice. Is it possible to support all these formats? You can define as many date formats (to display dates) you want by just adding them to the locale data file starting with formatindex=50, too many formats in the dialog may just confuse users though.. For date acceptance patterns, as long as the DMY order stays the same within one locale also multiple separators can be used, ISO 8601 and its YMD order is always supported internally, no need to define anything for that. Eike -- LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer. GnuPG key 0x293C05FD : 997A 4C60 CE41 0149 0DB3 9E96 2F1A D073 293C 05FD -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Locale data date acceptance patterns, localizers HEADS UP please :)
Hi Aferkiw, On Wednesday, 2012-01-18 00:05:58 +0100, Aferkiw N Tamazgha wrote: I don't understand ... What I need to change for kab_DZ kab-DZ uses DD/MM/ as edit date format, so D/M/Y is generated as date acceptance pattern. If additionally the input of incomplete dates, consisting of day and month only, shall be accepted, it would need a defined D/M or D/M/ pattern, probably D/M Eike -- LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer. GnuPG key 0x293C05FD : 997A 4C60 CE41 0149 0DB3 9E96 2F1A D073 293C 05FD -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Locale data date acceptance patterns, localizers HEADS UP please :)
On 01/18/2012 03:50 PM, Eike Rathke wrote: ... But it would be ever so better to have a possibility for computer to not second-guess at all, as such guesses might even be culturally irrelevant. ... I'm confused now, does be-BY want incomplete date patterns, yes or no? Yes. Sorry. And also it wants a possibility to switch off incomplete date recognition completely? Is this doable? Thanks! Yury -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Locale data date acceptance patterns, localizers HEADS UP please :)
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Eike Rathke er...@redhat.com wrote: Hi Cheng-Chia, On Tuesday, 2012-01-17 12:22:17 +0800, Cheng-Chia Tseng wrote: For zh-TW, full date patterns are: Y-M-D Y/M/D Y.M.D Y-M-D is the always accepted ISO 8601 pattern, and Y/M/D is already generated from FormatElement formatindex=21, no need for those. Added Y.M.D And incomplete date patterns are: M-D M/D M.D With decimal separator '.' the M.D pattern is not possible, added the other two. Also added Y年M月D日 and M月D日 as those are defined in the format codes, I hope that was correct.. http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=fa836f7bf0fcdab6029320bdf7830c561d5ea823 Thanks Eike Thank you a lot! That was correct. :) -- Sincerely, by Cheng-Chia Tseng -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Locale data date acceptance patterns, localizers HEADS UP please :)
Hi Eike [... time separator ...] Is it possible to accept both . and : as separators? No, only one is possible. OK, good to know. EU-standard (not seen that often but since were in the EU and all EU documents , use this format it would be a good thing to support): D.M D.M. Which standard would that be? I only know of EN 28601 that followed ISO 8601. Sorry, bad choice of words. The source of information that I used are the recommendations that Språkrådet (the Swedish language council) gives. In their book Svenska skrivregler they state that the format D.M. is used in all EU-documents regardless of language. After some searching on the net I found publications I found this link: http://publications.europa.eu/code/en/en-4100500en.htm And a few more (Swedish and English) that said something similar to Dates in the text should always be given in their full form (6 June 1992), whereas in footnotes they should always be abbreviated, i.e. 6.6.1992, not 6.6.92 You can define as many date formats (to display dates) you want by just adding them to the locale data file starting with formatindex=50, too many formats in the dialog may just confuse users though.. Thank you, I'll have a closer look. Did a quick test build and was able to add D/M . I'll discuss things further on the Swedish list and get back to you as soon as possible. For date acceptance patterns, as long as the DMY order stays the same within one locale also multiple separators can be used, ISO 8601 and its YMD order is always supported internally, no need to define anything for that. OK, in other words D/M might be a problem for us since the most common format is -MM-DD. I don't think it really matters that much, the most important (commonly used) formats are already supported. -- Thanks, /Niklas -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
