Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [BUG] Fomula SYD description

2013-07-20 Thread Yury Tarasievich 
Might be the English descriptions for Calc 
functions were initially translated, at least 
partially, from German.


-Yury

On 07/20/2013 11:31 PM, Mihovil Stanic wrote:

Dana 20.7.2013. 18:31, Mirosław Zalewski je

...

Personally, I favor precise and hermetic
language. People who need certain
information will understand; people who don't,
they don't care.


I'm also in favor of writing it in language
which people who needs it will understand. But
some descriptions are complicated without reason.


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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-website] New DL-Page - request for updated Translations

2013-07-20 Thread elcico2001 एल्चिको 

Il 17/07/2013 22:16, Rimas Kudelis ha scritto:

Hello, L10n,

to satisfy the request quoted below, I've just updated the website
project on Pootle to contain new strings. The update brings 71 new
words. Please update your translations by the end of this week, so that
I can make a pull request early next week.

Regards!
Rimas




Italian translations updated.
Thanks!
Luca :)

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[libreoffice-l10n] Errors in help pages

2013-07-20 Thread Sérgio Marques 
Insert mode is enabled. The text cursor is a blinking vertical line. 
Click on the area to enable the overwrite mode.

In help page wiki:

Insert mode is enabled. When in WriterThe text cursor is a blinking vertical line. 
Click on the area to enable the overwrite mode.


The overwrite mode is enabled. The text cursor is a blinking block. 
Click on the area to enable insert mode.

In help page wiki:

The overwrite mode is enabled. When in
WrtiterThe text cursor is a blinking block. 
Click on the area to enable insert mode.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description

2013-07-20 Thread Sérgio Marques 
Acturial value is mostly used in finance and insurance.

Actuarial value is a measure of the percentage of expected health care
costs a specific health plan will cover for the "standard" population.
Actuarial value is generally calculated using the ratio of:

*the total expected payments by the plan for essential health benefits*
*__ *

*the total expected costs of the "standard" population for essential health
benefits *

It´s the discipline that uses statistis and math in the way to determine
risk and income (cash flow) and try to estabilish te present value of
future cash flows. In a way it´s similar to TIR.

http://www.zanebenefits.com/blog/bid/252609/What-is-Actuarial-Value-AV

Regards

2013/7/20 Mihovil Stanic 

> https://translations.**documentfoundation.org/hr/**libo_ui/sc/source/ui/**
> translate.html#unit=29744374
> Currect desc: Returns the actuarial rate of interest of an investment
> excluding costs or profits.
> Oasis desc = MS Office desc: Compute the internal rate of return for a
> series of cash flows.
> http://docs.oasis-open.org/**office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-**
> v1.2-os-part2.html#IRR
>
> I for one studied economics and had a hard time finding out waht actuarial
> means... As far as I understood it it's math based on statistics and
> probabilities.
> That can be in some way applied to this formula, but it's
> t complicated description. Why can't it be just
> like it's in Oasis and MS Office?
>

I also think that string should be as ODFF states. My translation states
that way. I must say that many of descriptions were changed in my
translations.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [BUG] Fomula SYD description

2013-07-20 Thread anne-ology 
   exactly.



From: Mihovil Stanic 
Date: Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [BUG] Fomula SYD description
To: l10n@global.libreoffice.org



Dana 20.7.2013. 18:31, Mirosław Zalewski je napisao:

 On 20/07/2013 at 17:16, "anne-ology"  wrote:
>
>  What a great example of a convoluted expression -
>>  which keeps us, the laymen, from completely understanding
>> this
>> world of electronics  ;-)
>>
> Actually it has nothing to do with "electronics"; rather exchange and
> market.
>
> Personally, I favor precise and hermetic language. People who need certain
> information will understand; people who don't, they don't care.
>
>  I'm also in favor of writing it in language which people who needs it
will understand. But some descriptions are complicated without reason.

Best regards,
Mihovil

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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC3 available

2013-07-20 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen 
Hi,

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 01:36:21AM +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
> The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
> builds download page at
> 
>   http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

And Ubuntu users find a packaged build in the pre-releases PPA at:

 https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-prereleases

with builds for Ubuntu saucy (13.10), Ubuntu 13.04 (raring) and Ubuntu 12.04
LTS precise. A big "Thank you!" to Rico Tzschichholz for providing the backports
this timely.

Best,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [BUG] Fomula SYD description

2013-07-20 Thread Mihovil Stanic 


Dana 20.7.2013. 18:31, Mirosław Zalewski je napisao:

On 20/07/2013 at 17:16, "anne-ology"  wrote:


What a great example of a convoluted expression -
 which keeps us, the laymen, from completely understanding this
world of electronics  ;-)

Actually it has nothing to do with "electronics"; rather exchange and market.

Personally, I favor precise and hermetic language. People who need certain
information will understand; people who don't, they don't care.

I'm also in favor of writing it in language which people who needs it 
will understand. But some descriptions are complicated without reason.


Best regards,
Mihovil

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[libreoffice-l10n] SUMIFS function

2013-07-20 Thread Mihovil Stanic 

Hello again,

this is string for search criteria in SUMIFS function:
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/hr/libo_ui/sc/source/ui/translate.html#unit=33753040

If I didn't understand something wrong, this is 100% incorrect.
Criteria is NOT range.It's criteria, condition(number, text, logical 
value etc...), but not range. Range is defined 2 strings before thatand 
that is range on which CRITERIA is applied.


Please check this, and ifI didn't understood this incorrectly, that 
description should be changed.


Same goes also for AVERAGEIFS and COUNIFS function.

Also, where is SUMIFS, AVERAGEIFS and COUNTIFS help?
Couldn't find it.

Best regards,
Mihovil

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [BUG] Fomula SYD description

2013-07-20 Thread Mirosław Zalewski 
On 20/07/2013 at 17:16, "anne-ology"  wrote:

>What a great example of a convoluted expression -
> which keeps us, the laymen, from completely understanding this
> world of electronics  ;-)

Actually it has nothing to do with "electronics"; rather exchange and market.

Personally, I favor precise and hermetic language. People who need certain 
information will understand; people who don't, they don't care.

>   how about changing 'Compute the amount of depreciation at a given
> period of time using the Sum-of-the-Years'-Digits method.'
>   to read, To compute depreciation, use the
> Sum-of-the-Years'-Digits method.

No, because it changes meaning of words.
Sum-of-the-Years'-Digits method is established algorithm in investment; it is 
used by this function internally. You can't tell people to use this method, 
because you will be telling them to look elsewhere while they are looking at 
exactly good place (also, why should brief function description mention any 
other function? There is place in help for that).
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description

2013-07-20 Thread anne-ology 
   You're so right  :-)

   But to simplify even further, how about having it read, To compute
the internal rate of return - profit.



From: Mihovil Stanic 
Date: Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 5:09 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description
To: LibreOffice-l10n 


https://translations.**documentfoundation.org/hr/**libo_ui/sc/source/ui/**
translate.html#unit=29744374
Currect desc: Returns the actuarial rate of interest of an investment
excluding costs or profits.
Oasis desc = MS Office desc: Compute the internal rate of return for a
series of cash flows.
http://docs.oasis-open.org/**office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-**
v1.2-os-part2.html#IRR

I for one studied economics and had a hard time finding out waht actuarial
means... As far as I understood it it's math based on statistics and
probabilities.
That can be in some way applied to this formula, but it's
t complicated description. Why can't it be just
like it's in Oasis and MS Office?

Best regards,
Mihovil

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [BUG] Fomula SYD description

2013-07-20 Thread anne-ology 
   What a great example of a convoluted expression -
which keeps us, the laymen, from completely understanding this
world of electronics  ;-)

   'arithmetically declining'  ???
could be referring to that 'new math', huh  ;-)

   To simplify matters -
[yes, the Keep It Simple S method  ;-)  ]

  how about changing 'Compute the amount of depreciation at a given
period of time using the Sum-of-the-Years'-Digits method.'
  to read, To compute depreciation, use the
Sum-of-the-Years'-Digits method.



From: Mihovil Stanic 
Date: Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 4:23 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-l10n] [BUG] Fomula SYD description
To: LibreOffice-l10n 


Current description:Calculates the arithmetically declining value of an
asset (depreciation) for a specified period.
Oasis description: Compute the amount of depreciation at a given period of
time using the Sum-of-the-Years'-Digits method.

Name of formula is SYD (Sum-of-the-Years-Digits) and it isn't mentioned at
all in formula description. I used Oasis description as refference for my
translation and I think english string should be changed also.

Best regards,
Mihovil

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[libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description

2013-07-20 Thread Mihovil Stanic 

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/hr/libo_ui/sc/source/ui/translate.html#unit=29744374
Currect desc: Returns the actuarial rate of interest of an investment 
excluding costs or profits.
Oasis desc = MS Office desc: Compute the internal rate of return for a 
series of cash flows.

http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part2.html#IRR

I for one studied economics and had a hard time finding out waht 
actuarial means... As far as I understood it it's math based on 
statistics and probabilities.
That can be in some way applied to this formula, but it's 
t complicated description. Why can't it be 
just like it's in Oasis and MS Office?


Best regards,
Mihovil

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[libreoffice-l10n] [BUG] Fomula SYD description

2013-07-20 Thread Mihovil Stanic 
Current description:Calculates the arithmetically declining value of an 
asset (depreciation) for a specified period.
Oasis description: Compute the amount of depreciation at a given period 
of time using the Sum-of-the-Years'-Digits method.


Name of formula is SYD (Sum-of-the-Years-Digits) and it isn't mentioned 
at all in formula description. I used Oasis description as refference 
for my translation and I think english string should be changed also.


Best regards,
Mihovil

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