Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Recruiting translators/editors
One of Pootle shortcomings in my experience is lack of changes tracking. I don't see Pootle as techi tool. If you know how to log into facebook and post comment, you know how to translate on Pootle. But problem is, new people don't know what they did good and what wasn't good. For example, when you get new team member, you don't give him write permission, only permission to suggest. He makes 50 string suggestions, and I go trough all of them accepting, refusing and editing mistakes. But when I'm done, he can't possibly know what I accepted or corrected. My first translation was Mozilla Thunderbird, and my mentor was long time Firefox translator. HG was terrible, terrible tool for translating, but one of it strong points was change tracking. I learned what I did wrong and how to improve my translations from that same change tracking system. Sometime I even corrected mentor, everyone makes mistakes. :) I miss something like that in Pootle, to provide new people way to see their mistakes and improve their skills with that. Best regards, Mihovil 2.9.2014 u 10:26, Tom Davies je napisao/la: Hi :) 2 separate issues; 1. Wrt recruiting new people there is a constant source of potential new people on the various Users Support mailing lists. Most have arrived there to get answers to 1 or 2 questions and were t focused and/or confused to notice any of the other stuff that goes on, such as different mailing-lists for different teams. Often people on those mailing lists have no idea how to get involved. They are often surprised to learn that they can join other teams just as 'easily' as they joined the Users Support mailing list and that the instructions on how to do so were right at the beginning of their trek to join the Users Support mailing lists. I think mentioning, about once per month (or maybe fortnightly but not too often)) the L10n mailing list and maybe your specific language mailing lists on your User Support mailing-lists might attract some good people. 2. As far as native English speakers go, the people in their current Documentation Team's mailing list are not very technically minded and had a big struggle trying to understand how to edit wiki's. Anything more complex, even Pootle, would be a major blocker for them. They all use ODFAuthors. So, anyone new only gets help as long as they are trying to use ODFAuthors too. I try to help people understand how to do wiki-editing but i am a hugely unpopular maverick there. People generally don't join these teams to instantly find themselves embroiled in a fight = they just want to get on with doing something useful. So new people joining their team either also avoid me and wiki-editing or drop-out. The English Faq has been mostly done by Sophie and Alex (who seem to be in all teams and have tons of energy) or by people who are nothing to do with the English Docs Team. The English-speakers Documentation Team can only cope with doing the Published Guides. So, 1. I think you might be able to recruit more people from the User Support mailing lists but don't spam them with adverts and requests too much or too often! There are other places such as social media and all the usual good places to market stuff but the User Support mailing lists are an extra place that might be fruitful. 2. If you want native English speakers then you might have to think how to attract people who are not already in the English-speakers Documentation Team. Regards from Tom :) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Recruiting translators/editors
Hi :) 2 separate issues; 1. Wrt recruiting new people there is a constant source of potential new people on the various Users Support mailing lists. Most have arrived there to get answers to 1 or 2 questions and were t focused and/or confused to notice any of the other stuff that goes on, such as different mailing-lists for different teams. Often people on those mailing lists have no idea how to get involved. They are often surprised to learn that they can join other teams just as 'easily' as they joined the Users Support mailing list and that the instructions on how to do so were right at the beginning of their trek to join the Users Support mailing lists. I think mentioning, about once per month (or maybe fortnightly but not too often)) the L10n mailing list and maybe your specific language mailing lists on your User Support mailing-lists might attract some good people. 2. As far as native English speakers go, the people in their current Documentation Team's mailing list are not very technically minded and had a big struggle trying to understand how to edit wiki's. Anything more complex, even Pootle, would be a major blocker for them. They all use ODFAuthors. So, anyone new only gets help as long as they are trying to use ODFAuthors too. I try to help people understand how to do wiki-editing but i am a hugely unpopular maverick there. People generally don't join these teams to instantly find themselves embroiled in a fight = they just want to get on with doing something useful. So new people joining their team either also avoid me and wiki-editing or drop-out. The English Faq has been mostly done by Sophie and Alex (who seem to be in all teams and have tons of energy) or by people who are nothing to do with the English Docs Team. The English-speakers Documentation Team can only cope with doing the Published Guides. So, 1. I think you might be able to recruit more people from the User Support mailing lists but don't spam them with adverts and requests too much or too often! There are other places such as social media and all the usual good places to market stuff but the User Support mailing lists are an extra place that might be fruitful. 2. If you want native English speakers then you might have to think how to attract people who are not already in the English-speakers Documentation Team. Regards from Tom :) On 1 September 2014 19:30, Mihovil Stanic libreoff...@miho.im wrote: Thanks for heads up, but I'm on Pootle since last Mozilla summit, so almost a year now. :) I was describing my workflow before Pootle, just to point our how easy is to translate with tool like that. Best regards, Mihovil 1.9.2014. u 20:22, Rimas Kudelis je napisao/la: not that it's very relevant here, but just to let you know, you can actually translate Firefox and Thunderbird in Pootle as well. I migrated most of my Mozilla work to Pootle just a few weeks ago. There were some migration-related bumps, but I'm gonna see how it goes from here. Rimas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [pootle] Templates update for 4.3.2 (ui) [2014-09-02]
In data martedì 2 settembre 2014 16:50:01, Christian Lohmaier ha scritto: Hi *, update_against_templates is currently running for libo_ui (and help). One string was removed from help, so nothing to do there for you. In ui, the fileformat labels for some *Works formats were made more specific. Instead of just Foo Document and Foo Document it is now Foo Text Document and Foo Spreadsheet See the list of changes here: (total of 12 strings in filter/source/config/fragments/filters.po) Thanks for the advice, Christian Ciao -- Valter Open Source is better! LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [pootle] Templates update for 4.3.2 (ui) [2014-09-02]
Hi Christian On 02-09-2014 11:50, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi *, update_against_templates is currently running for libo_ui (and help). One string was removed from help, so nothing to do there for you. In ui, the fileformat labels for some *Works formats were made more specific. Instead of just Foo Document and Foo Document it is now Foo Text Document and Foo Spreadsheet See the list of changes here: (total of 12 strings in filter/source/config/fragments/filters.po) ciao Christian I must have made something really wrong... I reloaded the templates for the UI and I got a mix of the UI and zero translated HELPCONTENT in the same project... https://translations.documentfoundation.org/pt_BR/libo_ui/ Can you please help me to fix it? Thank you -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [pootle] Templates update for 4.3.2 (ui) [2014-09-02]
Argh, of course old link posted... http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/tmp/pootle_43_2014-09-02/template_update_14-09-02.html is the current diff. ciao Christain -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
