Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Quick poll on QA on your localized version
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, This is a quick poll on QA done by your team on the builds in your language, please take 5 mn to answer: Answering for Hebrew l10n. - Are you doing manual tests on the builds? . on the RC only? . using Litmus? Might try to use it for myself, nothing very ordered. - Are you running other types of tests .which one? None. - You are not doing any tests . because you're not interested . because you don't have the manpower to run them . because they are not adapted to your language . because you're not aware of any test manpower - couldn't find people to invest time on this area. Kaplan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Quick poll on QA on your localized version
Hi Sophie, Here is my response: - Are you doing manual tests on the builds? . on the RC only? . using Litmus? No - Are you running other types of tests No .which one? I am not aware of any type of tests :( is it important? from where can i learn more? please guide me. - You are not doing any tests . because you're not interested Oh no...i am surely interested, but i don't have any knowledge :( . because you don't have the manpower to run them Yes...I don't have yet :( . because they are not adapted to your language what? . because you're not aware of any test Yeah :( Hope you are not disappointed, cause I am just a new comer :) Regards... Urdulizer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Quick poll on QA on your localized version
Sophie Gautier skrev 2012-03-02 12:02: Hi all, This is a quick poll on QA done by your team on the builds in your language, please take 5 mn to answer: - Are you doing manual tests on the builds? Yes, specific features that is important for me, at the moment of testing. . on the RC only? It can be Beta or even daily snapshots. . using Litmus? No, I've looked at it briefly but it was a bit confusing. Since I don't even have the time to test the features most important to myself ... Best regards, Niklas -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Quick poll on QA on your localized version
Hi all, A big thank for all your answers, it's really interesting. I'm gonna sum them up, but I think the most given answer is lack of manpower. So I'll come back again with some questions on how you think we could improve the situation for our community. Thanks again Kind regards Sophie On 02/03/2012 12:11, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: Slovenian: not aware, but somewhat also running short on manpower, so only basic tests could be done in the near future. thanks, m. 2012/3/2 Sophie Gautiergautier.sop...@gmail.com: Hi all, This is a quick poll on QA done by your team on the builds in your language, please take 5 mn to answer: - Are you doing manual tests on the builds? . on the RC only? . using Litmus? - Are you running other types of tests .which one? - You are not doing any tests . because you're not interested . because you don't have the manpower to run them . because they are not adapted to your language . because you're not aware of any test Thanks a lot for your answers :-) Kind regards Sophie -- Founding member of The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Founding member of The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Quick poll on QA on your localized version
2012/3/2 Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com Hi all, This is a quick poll on QA done by your team on the builds in your language, please take 5 mn to answer: - Are you doing manual tests on the builds? . on the RC only? . using Litmus? - Are you running other types of tests .which one? - You are not doing any tests . because you're not interested . because you don't have the manpower to run them . because they are not adapted to your language . because you're not aware of any test Thanks a lot for your answers :-) Hi Sophie, I wasn't aware of the Litmus procedure, but I have started a check for the Italian RC in Windows and I'll give also an advice in the Italian Users List Ciao -- Valter *Open Source is better!* KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Quick poll on QA on your localized version
On Friday 02 March 2012, Sophie Gautier wrote: - Are you doing manual tests on the builds? . on the RC only? RCs and Betas (when available). . using Litmus? No. - Are you running other types of tests .which one? Testing in everyday use + checking for localization errors. - You are not doing any tests . because you don't have the manpower to run them Lack of manpower means we don't test every release and all of the testing we do tends to be mostly uncoordinated. Harri -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Quick poll on QA on your localized version
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, This is a quick poll on QA done by your team on the builds in your language, please take 5 mn to answer: - Are you doing manual tests on the builds? . on the RC only? I have builded for seeing the new UI strings. . using Litmus? No. How to use it? Any guide? - Are you running other types of tests .which one? Well, I don't know - You are not doing any tests . because you're not interested . because you don't have the manpower to run them . because they are not adapted to your language . because you're not aware of any test I am not aware of any test. Thanks a lot for your answers :-) Kind regards Sophie -- Founding member of The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Sincerely, by Cheng-Chia Tseng -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] Quick poll on QA on your localized version
Hi all, This is a quick poll on QA done by your team on the builds in your language, please take 5 mn to answer: - Are you doing manual tests on the builds? . on the RC only? . using Litmus? - Are you running other types of tests .which one? - You are not doing any tests . because you're not interested . because you don't have the manpower to run them . because they are not adapted to your language . because you're not aware of any test Thanks a lot for your answers :-) Kind regards Sophie -- Founding member of The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Quick poll on QA on your localized version
Slovenian: not aware, but somewhat also running short on manpower, so only basic tests could be done in the near future. thanks, m. 2012/3/2 Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com: Hi all, This is a quick poll on QA done by your team on the builds in your language, please take 5 mn to answer: - Are you doing manual tests on the builds? . on the RC only? . using Litmus? - Are you running other types of tests .which one? - You are not doing any tests . because you're not interested . because you don't have the manpower to run them . because they are not adapted to your language . because you're not aware of any test Thanks a lot for your answers :-) Kind regards Sophie -- Founding member of The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Quick poll on QA on your localized version
This is for gd (Scots Gaelic) 02/03/2012 11:02, sgrìobh Sophie Gautier: Hi all, This is a quick poll on QA done by your team on the builds in your language, please take 5 mn to answer: - Are you doing manual tests on the builds? . on the RC only? Rarely . using Litmus? No - Are you running other types of tests .which one? None. - You are not doing any tests . because you're not interested . because you don't have the manpower to run them Yes . because they are not adapted to your language Not sure I understand the question but probably No . because you're not aware of any test No Can I add Other reasons? I did a lot of testing for our first release. Since that is now fairly stable and since I use LO frequently and given time constraints, my view is that any translation related issues are unlikely to cause a massive mess and, with the quicker release schedule LO has, can be fixed in a reasonable amount of time. If there was a totally new feature, say a DTP module, then I'd test before releasing. Second, I can obviously install a RC but beyond that, I don't have the technical skills to to any fancy stuff. Cheers Michael -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Quick poll on QA on your localized version
Þann fös 2.mar 2012 11:02, skrifaði Sophie Gautier: Hi all, This is a quick poll on QA done by your team on the builds in your language, please take 5 mn to answer: - Are you doing manual tests on the builds? Occasionally . on the RC only? Mostly . using Litmus? Tried a long time ago, may return when time constraints permit. - Are you running other types of tests .which one? Yes; I load peculiar files known to have problems, other files with delicate formatting, etc. I also test on most releases (beta, RC, public) our new soontobepublished hunspell spellchecker for my language. - You are not doing any tests . because you're not interested . because you don't have the manpower to run them . because they are not adapted to your language . because you're not aware of any test This was the short version, I'll comment on Litmus and some other things when I've a bit more time (rather soon I hope). Thanks a lot for your answers :-) De même... Sveinn í Felli Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Quick poll on QA on your localized version
For Estonian (et): 2012/3/2 Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com -Are you doing manual tests on the builds? . on the RC only? Yes (including alpha/beta when they are made available), but only to check how/if the translated strings fit, etc, or to see how something works to know how to translate it. When bigger changes occur in the Windows installer, I play around with that a bit in VirtualBox to see if anything is broken/not translated/unfitting/etc. . using Litmus? No. - Are you running other types of tests No. - You are not doing any tests . because you're not interested . because you don't have the manpower to run them I'd rather say I don't find testing the localized build very necessary, apart from what I'm already doing. . because they are not adapted to your language This plays no part for me. . because you're not aware of any test I am aware that there are tests, but I haven't really taken a closer look at them. Best regards, Mihkel -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Quick poll on QA on your localized version
Hi Sophie, this is the answer for the Asturian Team El 02/03/12 12:02, Sophie Gautier escribió: Hi all, This is a quick poll on QA done by your team on the builds in your language, please take 5 mn to answer: - Are you doing manual tests on the builds? . on the RC only? Yes. Also betas. Tests consist of normal use of LibreOffice with random documents, and a quick glance at the interface. . using Litmus? No - Are you running other types of tests No .which one? - You are not doing any tests . because you're not interested . because you don't have the manpower to run them . because they are not adapted to your language . because you're not aware of any test We are a small team and it's not likely we can improve our testing unless it's really easy to do it on the fly. I mean, It would be fine if we can tell an occasional tester open this URL in your browser, do what it says and you're done in 30 minutes. Easy to say, but hard to code, I know :) Thanks a lot for your answers :-) Kind regards Sophie You're welcome. Best regards -- Xuacu Saturio Sent while testing Thunderbird Unviáu dende Thunderbird en pruebes -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Quick poll on QA on your localized version
Not really doing any tests, apart from checking if the translations are correct, or as a side-effect of trying various functions when searching where the hell* is that stupid string that can be translated several different ways in my language. So I'm really testing only the functionality I need to check during translation. I'm only checking the beta and RC releases, main reason is lack of time and not enough knowledge to do my own test builds, not to mention the difficulty to make compiling work on Windows. I'm not aware about any existing testing infrastructure. * On this note, it would be great if there was a file listing all the dialogs (and how to get them displayed) with string IDs that are used on each particular dialog. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, This is a quick poll on QA done by your team on the builds in your language, please take 5 mn to answer: - Are you doing manual tests on the builds? . on the RC only? . using Litmus? - Are you running other types of tests .which one? - You are not doing any tests . because you're not interested . because you don't have the manpower to run them . because they are not adapted to your language . because you're not aware of any test Thanks a lot for your answers :-) Kind regards Sophie -- Founding member of The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Quick poll on QA on your localized version
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Sophie Em 02-03-2012 08:02, Sophie Gautier escreveu: Hi all, This is a quick poll on QA done by your team on the builds in your language, please take 5 mn to answer: - Are you doing manual tests on the builds? . on the RC only? yes . using Litmus? No. Although I wrote/translated some of the test in the past, I found the tool quite confusing and hard to use. Perhaps it just me, but to run the litmus test on every beta and rc was a bit overhelming for my little spare time, mostly because the release schedule is very tight. - Are you running other types of tests .which one? I test installation and some basic functions on subjects I am concerned. I use to look for the recently translated strings, but I have no method. - You are not doing any tests . because you're not interested . because you don't have the manpower to run them . because they are not adapted to your language . because you're not aware of any test All of them... But I'll take not interested out and add boring task/tool Regards - -- Olivier Hallot Founder, Board of Directors Member - The Document Foundation LibreOffice translation leader for Brazilian Portuguese +55-21-8822-8812 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPUQwHAAoJEJp3R7nH3vLxGOEH/izWY7I00+lP6w4OIr/fHoKp 2xp+YaQnEzvxK4i+jp6RLwPpyrsnVM5iV4dWSjXYanOnKfmxJtV5xlSLW8vyl39Z 8PwYdc99y5VUBX7lCrmnT4II4+oAiEsQviXDymN42zRs5lNirS/b85KKW45QKM98 3znj6SVXKdWw4VESp4llxtv3Z6IGVc+4uE3baWAZ1w3CByBJN3zk85sF4jV2BsqA R7jj7KpaaXdHKIeYwO43si7dWe5zow+/U2d2fqrvYMNCwemTe1GqgMkROqTcTD1P nnAObxkaJrOmIWaO3sZ96VdNGnlV9hOby9tMb/oVL7RbsyL2awCAi+9V3xzl13M= =svMH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Quick poll on QA on your localized version
From the Danish Team...: On 02-03-2012 12:02, Sophie Gautier wrote: - Are you doing manual tests on the builds? . on the RC only? ... - You are not doing any tests . because you don't have the manpower to run them Thanks a lot for your answers :-) Thank you for your interest ;-) /Leif -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Quick poll on QA on your localized version
Hi Sophie, Sophie Gautier wrote (02-03-12 12:02) This is a quick poll on QA done by your team on the builds in your language, please take 5 mn to answer: - Are you doing manual tests on the builds? Yes. Sometimes more, sometimes less. . on the RC only? Encourage others from our group to do some testing, with varying success. . using Litmus? Sometimes - not much. - Are you running other types of tests .which one? Working with all kind of builds - if time allows. - You are not doing any tests ... not doing more tests ...: . because you don't have the manpower to run them Thanks a lot for your answers :-) You're welcome :-) -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to l10n+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted