Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Unclear string in help file

2013-06-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
+1

I prefer Italo's suggestion too.  


Sergio's suggestions seemed fine except that they needed more thes and 
thats in English.  I suspect that  translations of it would have been 
perfect.  With these sorts of things i think it helps for a few people to 
discuss and put forwards alternative suggestions to help us understand what the 
original was trying to say.  It is extra noise/traffic on the lists which some 
may object to but i think it helps get a better result.  Anyway, i think Italo 
nailed it and i like to think that Sergio and i helped him get there.  

Regards from 
Tom :)  







 From: Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com
To: Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com 
Cc: Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com; Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com; 
LibreOffice-l10n l10n@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 June 2013, 1:52
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Unclear string in help file
 

2013/6/18 Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com

 maybe:

 In the emphQuery Properties/emph dialog, set the SQL Query properties
 that you need for your current task.


Correct. That´s what I´ve done. When suggesting I´ve made an literal
translation. Instead of SQL Query properties (correct) I´ve stated
properties of SQL Query (wrong).

My bad.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Unclear string in help file

2013-06-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Can we push these to the Documentation team's mailing list?  

documentat...@global.libreoffice.org

It really is only an odd 2 or 3 at the moment.  It looks like people here are 
intelligent enough and have an excellent level of English so they are able to 
make sense of all the rest.  It only seems to be an odd few originals that are 
causing problems but we are all having trouble with those same 2 or 3  
statements.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com
To: LibreOffice-l10n l10n@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Monday, 17 June 2013, 21:12
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Unclear string in help file
 

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Mihkel Tõnnov mihh...@gmail.com wrote:
 esmaspäev, 17. juuni 2013 Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com kirjutas:

 Hi Andras,
 Thanks.
 But i just can't make any sense of the string. Is this proper English?

 Definitely not. We really need to get these new English strings reviewed by
 (preferably) native speakers, this is getting embarrassing :(


Yes. The question is, how? If someone volunteers, it's fine.
Otherwise, there are 50+ help translators, who can report bugs, the
earlier, the better. I think localizers did a really good job in this
4.1 beta cycle, and helped to improve the quality a lot. Please, keep
up the good work.

Thanks,
Andras

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Unclear string in help file

2013-06-18 Thread Sérgio Marques
2013/6/18 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

 Hi :)
 +1

 I prefer Italo's suggestion too.

 I also prefer Italo´s suggestion. But what Andras has done is also fine.



 Sergio's suggestions seemed fine except that they needed more thes and
 thats in English.  I suspect that  translations of it would have been
 perfect.  With these sorts of things i think it helps for a few people to
 discuss and put forwards alternative suggestions to help us understand what
 the original was trying to say.  It is extra noise/traffic on the lists
 which some may object to but i think it helps get a better result.  Anyway,
 i think Italo nailed it and i like to think that Sergio and i helped him
 get there.


True. In Portugal we use more The and That than English language.

Regards





 
  From: Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com
 To: Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com
 Cc: Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com; Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com;
 LibreOffice-l10n l10n@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Tuesday, 18 June 2013, 1:52
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Unclear string in help file
 
 
 2013/6/18 Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com
 
  maybe:
 
  In the emphQuery Properties/emph dialog, set the SQL Query
 properties
  that you need for your current task.
 
 
 Correct. That´s what I´ve done. When suggesting I´ve made an literal
 translation. Instead of SQL Query properties (correct) I´ve stated
 properties of SQL Query (wrong).
 
 My bad.
 
 Regards
 --
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[libreoffice-l10n] Unclear string in help file

2013-06-17 Thread leif

Hi all,
Can someone explain to me what this sentence actually means:
In the emphQuery Properties/emph dialog, set properties belong to 
SQL Query, that you need your current task.


https://translations.documentfoundation.org/da/libo_help/translate.html#filter=incompleteunit=40268920

I simply can't understand what this string is about.


Cheers,
Leif

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Unclear string in help file

2013-06-17 Thread Andras Timar
Hi,

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:13 PM, leif leiflod...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 Can someone explain to me what this sentence actually means:
 In the emphQuery Properties/emph dialog, set properties belong to SQL
 Query, that you need your current task.

 https://translations.documentfoundation.org/da/libo_help/translate.html#filter=incompleteunit=40268920

 I simply can't understand what this string is about.


This is the Query Properties dialog:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Queryproperties.png

You can set DISTINCT and LIMIT keywords for your SELECT queries.

Best regards,
Andras

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Unclear string in help file

2013-06-17 Thread Leif Lodahl
Hi Andras,
Thanks.
But i just can't make any sense of the string. Is this proper English?


/Leif


2013/6/17 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:13 PM, leif leiflod...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
  Can someone explain to me what this sentence actually means:
  In the emphQuery Properties/emph dialog, set properties belong to
 SQL
  Query, that you need your current task.
 
 
 https://translations.documentfoundation.org/da/libo_help/translate.html#filter=incompleteunit=40268920
 
  I simply can't understand what this string is about.
 

 This is the Query Properties dialog:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Queryproperties.png

 You can set DISTINCT and LIMIT keywords for your SELECT queries.

 Best regards,
 Andras


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Unclear string in help file

2013-06-17 Thread Mihkel Tõnnov
esmaspäev, 17. juuni 2013 Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com kirjutas:
 Hi Andras,
 Thanks.
 But i just can't make any sense of the string. Is this proper English?

Definitely not. We really need to get these new English strings reviewed by
(preferably) native speakers, this is getting embarrassing :(

Best regards,
Mihkel
Estonian team



 /Leif


 2013/6/17 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:13 PM, leif leiflod...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
  Can someone explain to me what this sentence actually means:
  In the emphQuery Properties/emph dialog, set properties belong to
 SQL
  Query, that you need your current task.
 
 

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/da/libo_help/translate.html#filter=incompleteunit=40268920
 
  I simply can't understand what this string is about.
 

 This is the Query Properties dialog:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Queryproperties.png

 You can set DISTINCT and LIMIT keywords for your SELECT queries.

 Best regards,
 Andras


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Unclear string in help file

2013-06-17 Thread Andras Timar
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Mihkel Tõnnov mihh...@gmail.com wrote:
 esmaspäev, 17. juuni 2013 Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com kirjutas:

 Hi Andras,
 Thanks.
 But i just can't make any sense of the string. Is this proper English?

 Definitely not. We really need to get these new English strings reviewed by
 (preferably) native speakers, this is getting embarrassing :(


Yes. The question is, how? If someone volunteers, it's fine.
Otherwise, there are 50+ help translators, who can report bugs, the
earlier, the better. I think localizers did a really good job in this
4.1 beta cycle, and helped to improve the quality a lot. Please, keep
up the good work.

Thanks,
Andras

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Unclear string in help file

2013-06-17 Thread Sérgio Marques
2013/6/17 Leif Lodahl leiflod...@gmail.com

 Hi Andras,
 Thanks.
 But i just can't make any sense of the string. Is this proper English?



The English form is not that good.

For me I used:

In the emphQuery Properties/emph dialog, set properties belong to SQL
Query, that you need your current task.

In the emphQuery Properties/emph dialog, set the properties of SQL
Query that you need your current task.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Unclear string in help file

2013-06-17 Thread Sérgio Marques
2013/6/18 Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com

 maybe:

 In the emphQuery Properties/emph dialog, set the SQL Query properties
 that you need for your current task.


Correct. That´s what I´ve done. When suggesting I´ve made an literal
translation. Instead of SQL Query properties (correct) I´ve stated
properties of SQL Query (wrong).

My bad.

Regards
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Sérgio Marques

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