Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC1 available

2011-10-28 Thread Andras Timar 

2011.10.27. 22:45 keltezéssel, Valter Mura írta:

Il 27/10/2011 17:32, Andras Timar ha scritto:

Hi Martin,

Yes, there were some last minute changes to help, basically links to
*.services.openoffice.org were changed to links that point to TDF
servers. I changed the links in translations, too, but I'll release
the new pot/sdf files ASAP and update Pootle.


We are waiting for you, Andras... :)


Yesterday I put new SDF/POT files online.
http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/latest-POT/
http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/latest-SDF/

By this morning Pootle update is done for help, it is still running for 
the UI. But please note, that if you do nothing, then you are still 
fine, because the URLs have been replaced in git with a sed script. This 
Pootle update serves no other purpose than to sync source and Pootle 
again. So don't panic, if you don't have time to work on 3.4 
translations this weekend.


Best regards,
Andras


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC1 available

2011-10-27 Thread Valter Mura 

Il 27/10/2011 17:32, Andras Timar ha scritto:

Hi Martin,

Yes, there were some last minute changes to help, basically links to
*.services.openoffice.org were changed to links that point to TDF
servers. I changed the links in translations, too, but I'll release
the new pot/sdf files ASAP and update Pootle.


We are waiting for you, Andras... :)

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC1 available

2011-10-27 Thread Yury Tarasievich 

On 10/27/2011 06:35 PM, Andras Timar wrote:

No, 3.4.4 is stable. You can use an older KeyID build (3.4.0beta2),
strings are 99.99% percent the same.


Thanks. You should note, that that KeyID build 
can't be used directly on some systems:


$ ldd -r libpyuno.so
ldd: warning: you do not have execution 
permission for `./libpyuno.so'
undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_DecodeUTF8 
(./libpyuno.so)
undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_GetSize 
(./libpyuno.so)
undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_AsUnicode 
(./libpyuno.so)
undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_FromUnicode 
(./libpyuno.so)
undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_AsUTF8String 
(./libpyuno.so)

...

So I had to substitute the libpyuno.so for the 
one from today's 3.4.4 build.


Also, is there a possibility to have two 
instances of LibO from different installations 
(e.g., 3.4.4 and KeyID), running simultaneously? 
Right now if I have one running, starting 
another just activates the already running 
instance. Bit of a bother.


-Yury

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC1 available

2011-10-27 Thread Michael Bauer 

Hi Andras,

27/10/2011 19:29, sgrìobh Andras Timar:
Typical installation does not offer language selection. It selects and 
installs languages supported by the system. On a typical Windows 
installation it is one language, I presume it is English (UK) in your 
case. 
Not again, I absolutely *detest* that "function" >.< Yes, I'm on English 
(UK)... given that a large % of LO localisations won't have localised 
operating systems, that is sheer lunacy...  But at least I now know. 
 yet more tech support work coming my way.



It is doable but risky, and we don't have a second chance to correct
it for 3.4.4. Accelerator removing scripts are untested.
I'll have another look then. I think a few locales used scripts to 
remove theirs - could someone let me know how that turned out in the end?

There will be an rc2, because there were Windows build fixes and other
last minute patches were coming in. I'll check Pootle for updates on
October 30, Sunday evening.

Ah ok, so I'll implement the spelling corrections in Pootle.

Many thanks - and sorry about the moan above, but that increasingly 
common "feature" really does my head in.


Michael



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC1 available

2011-10-27 Thread Andras Timar 
Hi Michael,

2011/10/27 Michael Bauer :
> 1) I had to choose Custom Install, then select Gaelic (gd) as an additional
> language. If I choose Typical, then I don't get a language choice. Is this
> because this is a rc and not the full blow thing or should Typical
> installation not offer the interface language during installation?

Typical installation does not offer language selection. It selects and
installs languages supported by the system. On a typical Windows
installation it is one language, I presume it is English (UK) in your
case.


>
> 2) The accelerators are a bit of a mess and putting them right would be a
> bit of a fruitless task, methinks, especially since it's rarely easy to tell
> which string is which. I followed the thread about those and I jotted down
> the code, but I don't trust myself with code of that complexity given my
> lack of programming skills. Is there any chance of someone stripping those
> from all the gd files?
>
> I considered leaving it till after but given that nobody really is used to
> certain combinations at the moment, I reckon it would be better for
> continuity to change them before.
>
> If that's not doable at all, I don't consider it an issue critical enough
> not to go with the 8 Nov though.
>

It is doable but risky, and we don't have a second chance to correct
it for 3.4.4. Accelerator removing scripts are untested.

> 3) Sort of related to 2). At which point should I start/stop correcting
> those in relation to 8 Nov? Or in other terms, if I change a type now, will
> it affect what's in the release? Or would it be better to wait until after?
>

There will be an rc2, because there were Windows build fixes and other
last minute patches were coming in. I'll check Pootle for updates on
October 30, Sunday evening.

Best regards,
Andras

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC1 available

2011-10-27 Thread Michael Bauer 

I'm a dunce >.< thanks, got it.

Ok, I have a slack handful of questions. But first of all, overall I'm 
happy with it to go live - there are small linguistic things to tweak 
but nothing that affects overall functionality and workability. 


1) I had to choose Custom Install, then select Gaelic (gd) as an 
additional language. If I choose Typical, then I don't get a language 
choice. Is this because this is a rc and not the full blow thing or 
should Typical installation not offer the interface language during 
installation?


2) The accelerators are a bit of a mess and putting them right would be 
a bit of a fruitless task, methinks, especially since it's rarely easy 
to tell which string is which. I followed the thread about those and I 
jotted down the code, but I don't trust myself with code of that 
complexity given my lack of programming skills. Is there any chance of 
someone stripping those from all the gd files?


I considered leaving it till after but given that nobody really is used 
to certain combinations at the moment, I reckon it would be better for 
continuity to change them before.


If that's not doable at all, I don't consider it an issue critical 
enough not to go with the 8 Nov though.


3) Sort of related to 2). At which point should I start/stop correcting 
those in relation to 8 Nov? Or in other terms, if I change a type now, 
will it affect what's in the release? Or would it be better to wait 
until after?


le meas,

Michael

27/10/2011 16:30, sgrìobh Andras Timar:

Hi Michael,

helppacks are for help only, the big installer contains all UI translations.

Best regards,
Andras



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC1 available

2011-10-27 Thread Andras Timar 
2011/10/27 Korrawit Pruegsanusak :
> Hello Andras,
>
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 22:32, Andras Timar  wrote:
>> Hi Martin,
>>
>> Yes, there were some last minute changes to help, basically links to
>> *.services.openoffice.org were changed to links that point to TDF
>> servers. I changed the links in translations, too, but I'll release
>> the new pot/sdf files ASAP and update Pootle.
>>
>> 2011/10/27 Martin Srebotnjak :
>>> Does 3.4.4 contain any new or changed strings?
>
> As I read commit log, IMHO there's one change to string here:
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/calc/commit/?h=libreoffice-3-4-4&id=2db0bea297ed0393fbf2b896e2f1b258d88dacdc
>

Oh, I forgot about this. I did not count it as a real string change,
because it was rephrasing of the English string without changing the
meaning.

Best regards,
Andras

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC1 available

2011-10-27 Thread Korrawit Pruegsanusak 
Hello Andras,

On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 22:32, Andras Timar  wrote:
> Hi Martin,
>
> Yes, there were some last minute changes to help, basically links to
> *.services.openoffice.org were changed to links that point to TDF
> servers. I changed the links in translations, too, but I'll release
> the new pot/sdf files ASAP and update Pootle.
>
> 2011/10/27 Martin Srebotnjak :
>> Does 3.4.4 contain any new or changed strings?

As I read commit log, IMHO there's one change to string here:
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/calc/commit/?h=libreoffice-3-4-4&id=2db0bea297ed0393fbf2b896e2f1b258d88dacdc

Best Regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC1 available

2011-10-27 Thread Andras Timar 
Hi Yuri,

No, 3.4.4 is stable. You can use an older KeyID build (3.4.0beta2),
strings are 99.99% percent the same.
http://ftp.fsf.hu/LibreOffice/KeyID/

Best regards,
Andras


2011/10/27 Yury Tarasievich :
> Will there be KeyID builds, possibly?
>
> On 10/27/2011 12:38 PM, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
> ...
>>
>> for 3.4.4 rc1, we're now uploading builds to a public (but
>
> ...
>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC1 available

2011-10-27 Thread Andras Timar 
Hi Martin,

Yes, there were some last minute changes to help, basically links to
*.services.openoffice.org were changed to links that point to TDF
servers. I changed the links in translations, too, but I'll release
the new pot/sdf files ASAP and update Pootle.

Best regards,
Andras


2011/10/27 Martin Srebotnjak :
> Does 3.4.4 contain any new or changed strings?
>
> Lp, m.
>
> 2011/10/27 Thorsten Behrens 
>
>> Hi *,
>>
>> for 3.4.4 rc1, we're now uploading builds to a public (but
>> non-mirrored - so don't spread news too widely!) place, as soon as
>> they're available (Windows not yet fully there, but should be in the
>> next few hours). Grab them here:
>>
>> http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/
>>
>> If you've a bit of time, please give them a try & report *critical*
>> bugs not yet in bugzilla here, so we can incorporate them into the
>> release notes. Please note that it takes approximately 24 hours to
>> populate the mirrors, so that's about the time we have to collect
>> feedback.
>>
>> The list of fixed bugs in this release is here:
>>
>>
>> http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/bugfixes-libreoffice-3-4-release-3.4.4.1.log
>>
>> So playing with the areas touched there also greatly appreciated - and
>> validation that those bugs are really fixed.
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your help,
>>
>> -- Thorsten
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC1 available

2011-10-27 Thread Andras Timar 
Hi Michael,

helppacks are for help only, the big installer contains all UI translations.

Best regards,
Andras


2011/10/27 Michael Bauer :
> There's quite a few locales missing - including my own (gd). Is the /win
> branch still not quite there or am I looking in the wrong place?
>
> Michael
>
> 27/10/2011 10:38, sgrìobh Thorsten Behrens:
>>
>> for 3.4.4 rc1, we're now uploading builds to a public (but
>> non-mirrored - so don't spread news too widely!) place, as soon as
>> they're available (Windows not yet fully there, but should be in the
>> next few hours). Grab them here:
>>
>> http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/
>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC1 available

2011-10-27 Thread Martin Srebotnjak 
Does 3.4.4 contain any new or changed strings?

Lp, m.

2011/10/27 Thorsten Behrens 

> Hi *,
>
> for 3.4.4 rc1, we're now uploading builds to a public (but
> non-mirrored - so don't spread news too widely!) place, as soon as
> they're available (Windows not yet fully there, but should be in the
> next few hours). Grab them here:
>
> http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/
>
> If you've a bit of time, please give them a try & report *critical*
> bugs not yet in bugzilla here, so we can incorporate them into the
> release notes. Please note that it takes approximately 24 hours to
> populate the mirrors, so that's about the time we have to collect
> feedback.
>
> The list of fixed bugs in this release is here:
>
>
> http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/bugfixes-libreoffice-3-4-release-3.4.4.1.log
>
> So playing with the areas touched there also greatly appreciated - and
> validation that those bugs are really fixed.
>
> Thanks a lot for your help,
>
> -- Thorsten
>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC1 available

2011-10-27 Thread Michael Bauer 
There's quite a few locales missing - including my own (gd). Is the /win 
branch still not quite there or am I looking in the wrong place?


Michael

27/10/2011 10:38, sgrìobh Thorsten Behrens:

for 3.4.4 rc1, we're now uploading builds to a public (but
non-mirrored - so don't spread news too widely!) place, as soon as
they're available (Windows not yet fully there, but should be in the
next few hours). Grab them here:

http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.4.4 RC1 available

2011-10-27 Thread Yury Tarasievich 

Will there be KeyID builds, possibly?

On 10/27/2011 12:38 PM, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
...

for 3.4.4 rc1, we're now uploading builds to a public (but

...

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