[lace] Lace magazine - cover has inspired me to Honiton

2004-05-09 Thread Viv Dewar
Hi everyone.
I too was thrilled to get my Lace magazine this weekend. I saw the front
cover, was inspired and looked eagerly at the inside pages to see if the
design was accompanied by its pattern. Sadly it wasn't, but as I read
that it took the lacer (Barbara Churchward) ten years to complete I
engaged brain and thought that my initial adrenaline inspired idea to
embark on this as my first ever piece of Honiton lace was so way out as
to be ridiculous!
Does anyone on the list know any more about this mat? Does it look even
more stunning in reality? How large is it  so on?
Next to get back to the inspiration and a wish to have a go at Honiton
I'd like your ideas on the question Do I need the right equipment? I
know that if I take to this particular style of lace I would, but until
I know I wouldn't want to buy another pillow and a set of new bobbins.
I've got le UK Lace Guild's basic technical instruction book for
Honiton, which has enough details to tell me how. 
Would a 16in domed straw pillow be ok to start with? (or a flat
polystyrene one)
Would unspangled light weight midlands bobbins work, or would they be so
frustrating as to put me off before I got going?
When I did my first attempts at Milanese braids I enlarged the prickings
and used a thicker thread. What would the pitfalls of doing this as a
complete Honiton beginner?
 
Many thanks as always for your thoughts
Viv

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Re: [lace] Lace magazine - cover has inspired me to Honiton

2004-05-09 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Viv:

I haven't seen the Lace Guild magazine yet, but as to your other 
questions:

I'd like your ideas on the question Do I need the right equipment? I
know that if I take to this particular style of lace I would, but until
I know I wouldn't want to buy another pillow and a set of new bobbins.
Traditional Honiton uses very fine threads, and involves many sewings. 
You therefore need very lightweight bobbins that are smooth so they 
don't snag  break the threads when you do the sewings. They do not 
have to be traditional Honiton bobbins. I have made fine Honiton 
successfully with Binche bobbins and some very lightweight Swiss 
bobbins I happen to have, as well as unspangled Midlands bobbins, 
though if they're unfinished you'll have to be careful not to snag them.

As for pillows: I learned on a straw-filled pillow, and they're nice if 
you can easily get one cheap. I still have my first, all-too-ambitious 
Honiton project sitting on that straw-filled pillow (it's been 23 
years, now), so I use my standard cookie pillows for my newer (and less 
ambitious) projects.

When I did my first attempts at Milanese braids I enlarged the 
prickings
and used a thicker thread. What would the pitfalls of doing this as a
complete Honiton beginner?
Because Honiton uses such fine threads, it uses techniques that can be 
unsightly with thicker threads. For example, you may be directed to 
finish off 6 pairs of threads by bunching them together, tying threads 
around the bundle several times, and cutting off. That's pretty well 
invisible if you're using 170/2 thread - if you're using Pearl Cotton 
#8 it makes a really big bump! Probably you'd use some thread in 
between these two extremes, but I'd say that you may well do better to 
use a 100/2 or 80/2 for your first attempts, so you get something nice 
without having much of a problem with your thread breaking.

Hope this helps.

Adele
North Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)
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[lace] mayflower and other floral emblems, Schneeberger angel, tallies, money in Prague

2004-05-09 Thread Julie Ourom
Apologies...some of this probably should be on lace chat...except I'm not.

Mayflower - According to the Dept. of Agriculture (Canada), the Nova Scotia
floral emplem, the mayflower is a trailing arbutus (epigaea repens) that
grows across Atlantic and eastern Canada as far west as Saskatchewan.  It's
apparently very common in Nova Scotia and was selected for their emblem in
1901.  I have a booklet with photos that shows clusters of tiny white
flowers with large shiny evergreen leaves.  The booklet is likely out of
print - I purchased mine in 1967 for 50 cents - and a quick check of their
webpage failed to turn it up.  I have more info I can share on any of the
floral emblems (including how to grow them) if anyone wants to contact me
off list.

I've always wondered if anyone has tried reproducing the floral emblems in
lace?  Patons produced a knit afghan booklet with charts for the different
provincial flowers (alas, the territories are missing g), I know I've seen
various counted cross stitch renditions, and, of course, Bev Walker sells
sets of gorgeous bobbins painted with the emblems.If there's anything in
lace, I've not seen it.

I'm nowhere near the designing stage myself, but maybe one day I'll do
something myself.  Except, my experiences with Honiton and Duchesse a few
years back almost turned me off lace and those are the techniques that
spring to mind.

In the meantime, I have finally finished the Schneeberger angel from one of
Lia Baumeister Jonker's booklets that I started last fall.   It turned out
quite nicely, especially against a dark backing.   Most of the pattern was
straight forward although I had to really think through a few steps before I
worked them.  The instruction is in somewhat idiosyncratic English and while
very charming isn't always easy to follow with just the written information.

One funny little thing that I've encountered once before - in one place I
inadvertently looped my thread around the previous pin so I'm now stuck with
a tiny loop of loose thread on the right side.  Only thing I can think of is
to bring it through to the back and hide it there.  Fortunately, this piece
will be framed so it's unlikely to show.

One benefit of doing this design - I now have 25 tallies to my credit, and a
few of them actually look ok.  It's just as well that I have another 975
before I achieve perfection as it's going to take me that many g.

Money in Prague?  When I was there in 2000 (had really hoped to get there
this summer but it's just not working out), I had no trouble either changing
money or using my Visa card.  I use Visa wherever I can, it's works for me
like my current account, and I found even the smaller places there took it.
There were bank machines anywhere I needed one.  I usually used the one at
the subway stop where I was staying.  I was aware of all the horror stories
and I'm pretty street conscious overall.  There were places where I wouldn't
have used a bank machine, there were places I wouldn't have felt like
walking around... but that's no different than being anywhere else in the
world and IMO not anything to unduly stress about.   Oh yes, the first place
I used a bank machine was in a scruffy train station near Cheb (we were
coming from Bayreuth in Germany) where nothing was in English and it was not
easy to read the train schedule, signs or anything else.  That was just
after a few uncomfortable border incidents so we were somewhat psyched.
Fortunately, we found help, the bank machine got us money to buy our first
Czech beer and everything went well from there.  Most of you will likely be
travelling by main line stations and more conventional means - just be aware
of what's going on around you, and enjoy a wonderful country and a super
opportunity.  Sure wish I could be there too.

It's raining...maybe I should make some lace this afternoon.

JulieO in Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada where it's definitely spring although
not as warm and sunny as the cats and garden would like.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[lace] V A Lace book - postage

2004-05-09 Thread Adele Shaak
Just a reminder to those who want the new VA lace book by Clare Brown 
but don't want to pay the mail charges from England:

Way back in February when we talked about this book, I mentioned that 
it was being simultaneously published in the US by Harry Abrams. In 
fact, I just bought it from chapters.indigo (a canadian bookseller) and 
it cost me $47 CDN, which at current rates of exchange is about 19 
british pounds or about $35 US. They threw in the shipping for free 
because the order was over $39 Cdn.

If you want to try looking for it at your local booksellers, the ISBN 
of the US publication is 0810966239.

Adele
North Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)
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[lace] Re: lace-digest V2004 #143

2004-05-09 Thread Leonard Bazar
Viv

If you do want to try out Honiton without wasting
money on new equipment but without hampering yourself
so you give up unnecessarily, I'd suggest the
following:

Pillow: If you have a 16 inch domed straw pillow, use
it, provided it is firm.  If you want to use a
slightly domed polystyrene pillow, put a layer of felt
under to cover cloth - it needs a bit of give for
sewings, oddly enough.  I find it helpful to sit with
feet on a footstool and pillow on lap, but really, use
any set-up that works.  Photos of 19th century workers
shows they used pillows unlike our standard modern
Honiton ones anyway.  However, a very large 23 inch
one would almost certainly make life very difficult,
especially on smaller pieces.  At the Honiton class I
attend (in Honiton), most people use a stand or table
in any case, so all that matters is the top of the
pillow, not the depth, and the Belgian ladies use
the equipment they are used to.

Bobbins: I would buy a new set.  24 (12 pairs) should
be enough to take you to the stage of knowing whether
you like it or not, and proper ones are (at least in
the UK) not expensive - 33p each a couple of years
ago.  These standard beech ones are better than the
more expensive, generally thinner, ones sold by
general bobbin makers more used to Midlands bobbins. 
If you use the Continental ones with the bulbous ends,
you will probably find the Honiton techniques and ways
of working harder - the different bobbins and pillows
and Continental techniques work well together, but
you'll end up making Duchesse, not Honiton, not
surprisingly.

Books: The Lace Guild book is a good choice, so go
with it.  If you want another for comparison, and in
due course to progress, Susanne Thompson's two books
for Batsfords are in my opinion a model of what how
to do lace books should be.  The second is one of the
few that gets you into advance techniques smoothly,
and the patterns are not just efficient exercises, but
desirable in their own right.  However, the Guild book
is more than good enough for starters.

Thread: Use 120/2 Egyptian cotton or equivalent to
start with, and later, if you want to, use 170/2 or
equivalent (the Egyptian 170/2 is very close to other
spinners' 180/2).  The standard patterns are all
generally plotted for one or the other, your book for
the 120/2, and if you use something else, you'll have
to adapt patterns, use different numbers of pairs, or
get an odd result - too much of a pain when you're
learning.  Most Honiton workers will use just one or
the other, depending on preference or local tradition.
 The current habit in Honiton itself at present (ie in
the Perryman line) is in fact to use 120/2, so don't
feel the need to convert to thinner just to be more
correct, if you can't get on with it.  On the other
hand, if you want to and do, again go for it. 
Sticking with the one thickness is useful in
maintaining tension, instinctively knowing how many
pairs are needed, and if necessary how to prick out
your own patterns or true up old ones.

Pricking card: It is a lot easier to use the thicker
card, for sewings etc, and you really do need very
little.  The glue in sticky-backed plastic can be a
nuisance, but some people get on with it.  Prick with
a no 8 sharp (or betweens/quilting) needle; you do
need a good pinhole, and don't want to struggle
pushing pins all the way in.  Until I did this, I too
ended up roughing up finger tips, bending pins etc,
wondering whether I needed pushing devices.  Problem,
as so often, was between the ears; lacemakers should
follow their fingers, not their brains.

Needle pin: Do try and use a proper one, and persevere
with it.  Again, get a cheap beech one from a Honiton
supplier - I am amazed at how awkward some fancy ones
can be to use.  It is worth the effort, as the really
tricky sewings cannot be done with hooks or bits of
cotton in needles, and you always forget at least one
magic thread.  You need the practice on the simple
ones!  I got myself into the habit by not using a hook
until I had had three proper goes with the needle pin,
regardless.  At first, it was three goes, then the
hook did it, but gradually it happened, probably
because I was not tense, and just going through the
motions before I could use the hook.  On raised work
with several sewings, it's so much quicker with the
pin that you're not put off raising by the thought of
having to sew.  Do though pull up before and after the
edge stitch to get a clean pin hole.  It not only
looks better, it's so much easier for sewings.  Don't
forget, if you knit, you're used to pulling threads
through loops using a needle without a hook on the
end...

Hope this is helpful - it's from someone who learnt
the basics from Mrs Thompson's first book before going
to classes, so it can be done!  On the other hand, the
improvement on going to Mrs Perryman's classes was, to
put it mildly, marked!


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Honiton on a course with Mrs P. - 

Re: [lace] Lace magazine - cover has inspired me to Honiton

2004-05-09 Thread aurelia loveman
on 5/9/04 2:09 PM, aurelia loveman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 5/9/04 11:06 AM, Viv Dewar at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi everyone.
 I too was thrilled to get my Lace magazine this weekend. I saw the front
 cover, was inspired and looked eagerly at the inside pages to see if the
 design was accompanied by its pattern. Sadly it wasn't, but as I read
 that it took the lacer (Barbara Churchward) ten years to complete I
 engaged brain and thought that my initial adrenaline inspired idea to
 embark on this as my first ever piece of Honiton lace was so way out as
 to be ridiculous!
 Does anyone on the list know any more about this mat? Does it look even
 more stunning in reality? How large is it  so on?
 Next to get back to the inspiration and a wish to have a go at Honiton
 I'd like your ideas on the question Do I need the right equipment? I
 know that if I take to this particular style of lace I would, but until
 I know I wouldn't want to buy another pillow and a set of new bobbins.
 I've got le UK Lace Guild's basic technical instruction book for
 Honiton, which has enough details to tell me how.
 Would a 16in domed straw pillow be ok to start with? (or a flat
 polystyrene one)
 Would unspangled light weight midlands bobbins work, or would they be so
 frustrating as to put me off before I got going?
 When I did my first attempts at Milanese braids I enlarged the prickings
 and used a thicker thread. What would the pitfalls of doing this as a
 complete Honiton beginner?
 
 Many thanks as always for your thoughts
 Viv
 
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 Dear Viv --  Honiton isn't so terrifying as your e-letter might suggest! The
 16 domed pillow would be fine; so would the polystyrene cookie. You could
 certainly use the unspangled midlands bobbins; you could equally well use
 delicate and pretty little wooden Binche bobbins, if that's what you had.
 However, I would not  ‹‹  really, not!  ‹‹  do the enlarged pricking and the
 thicker thread. I think you would lose the sense of Honiton, the fine light
 hand, the delicate turns. (That's only my opinion) The most thing I would
 suggest is that you get a copy of Susanne Thompson's first book, Introduction
 to Honiton Lace. Sue will take you by the hand very gently, lead you past
 pillow and bobbin issues, and before you know it, you will be making Honiton
 lace! When you realize that that's, in fact, what you are doing, you will be
 so thrilled that you will rush right out and get Perryman and Voysey's New
 Designs in Honiton Lace. That book is pure heaven.
 
 I have survived beginnerhood in Honiton: my first teacher was Elsie Luxton,
 then Cynthia Voysey for years; and then (two or three years ago) a workshop
 with Pat Perryman. So I say, Don't hesitate!  Good luck!  Aurelia Loveman

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RE: [lace] V A Book and Postagess

2004-05-09 Thread Annette Meldrum
Dear Sue, and others,
I have ordered my copy from Amazon in US$ and it came to $38.90 plus
cheapest postage (4-5 weeks) $18 so with current exchange rates of 7.1 ? as
opposed to 4.1 ? that should be a better deal. It hasn't hit my bank
statement yet so can't give an exact value in Aussie$s. I should get it in
about 2 more weeks. I'm not surprised or disappointed to hear that there is
more needle lace than bobbin lace. When I visited the V and A last year the
needle lace I saw was stunning!

Annette Meldrum
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South Coast of New South Wales, Australia. Yesterday we had our first taste
of winter approaching and needed to turn on the heating.

 
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Sent: Sunday, 9 May 2004 10:34 AM
To: lace digest
Subject: [lace] V  A Book and Postagess

Hi All,

The current thread about postages charges reminded me that I had intended to
send a message to you all about the postal charges for the Lace book from V

A. This is of special interest to those of you at this end of the world!
(Oz,
NZ)

I ordered the book through the V and A site and had no problems, when I put
in
the option to have it sent to this part of the world the postage came up as
25
British pounds and like a fool I clicked to send the order!  The book itself
is 30 pounds and the cost of postage didn't penetrate through to my one
brain
cell until after I had sent the order off.  

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Re: [lace] mayflower and other floral emblems, Schneeberger angel, tallies, money in Prague

2004-05-09 Thread aurelia loveman
on 5/9/04 2:08 PM, Julie Ourom at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Apologies...some of this probably should be on lace chat...except I'm not.
 
 Mayflower - According to the Dept. of Agriculture (Canada), the Nova Scotia
 floral emplem, the mayflower is a trailing arbutus (epigaea repens) that
 grows across Atlantic and eastern Canada as far west as Saskatchewan.  It's
 apparently very common in Nova Scotia and was selected for their emblem in
 1901.  I have a booklet with photos that shows clusters of tiny white
 flowers with large shiny evergreen leaves.  The booklet is likely out of
 print - I purchased mine in 1967 for 50 cents - and a quick check of their
 webpage failed to turn it up.  I have more info I can share on any of the
 floral emblems (including how to grow them) if anyone wants to contact me
 off list.
 
 I've always wondered if anyone has tried reproducing the floral emblems in
 lace?  Patons produced a knit afghan booklet with charts for the different
 provincial flowers (alas, the territories are missing g), I know I've seen
 various counted cross stitch renditions, and, of course, Bev Walker sells
 sets of gorgeous bobbins painted with the emblems.If there's anything in
 lace, I've not seen it.
 
 I'm nowhere near the designing stage myself, but maybe one day I'll do
 something myself.  Except, my experiences with Honiton and Duchesse a few
 years back almost turned me off lace and those are the techniques that
 spring to mind.
 
 In the meantime, I have finally finished the Schneeberger angel from one of
 Lia Baumeister Jonker's booklets that I started last fall.   It turned out
 quite nicely, especially against a dark backing.   Most of the pattern was
 straight forward although I had to really think through a few steps before I
 worked them.  The instruction is in somewhat idiosyncratic English and while
 very charming isn't always easy to follow with just the written information.
 
 One funny little thing that I've encountered once before - in one place I
 inadvertently looped my thread around the previous pin so I'm now stuck with
 a tiny loop of loose thread on the right side.  Only thing I can think of is
 to bring it through to the back and hide it there.  Fortunately, this piece
 will be framed so it's unlikely to show.
 
 One benefit of doing this design - I now have 25 tallies to my credit, and a
 few of them actually look ok.  It's just as well that I have another 975
 before I achieve perfection as it's going to take me that many g.
 
 Money in Prague?  When I was there in 2000 (had really hoped to get there
 this summer but it's just not working out), I had no trouble either changing
 money or using my Visa card.  I use Visa wherever I can, it's works for me
 like my current account, and I found even the smaller places there took it.
 There were bank machines anywhere I needed one.  I usually used the one at
 the subway stop where I was staying.  I was aware of all the horror stories
 and I'm pretty street conscious overall.  There were places where I wouldn't
 have used a bank machine, there were places I wouldn't have felt like
 walking around... but that's no different than being anywhere else in the
 world and IMO not anything to unduly stress about.   Oh yes, the first place
 I used a bank machine was in a scruffy train station near Cheb (we were
 coming from Bayreuth in Germany) where nothing was in English and it was not
 easy to read the train schedule, signs or anything else.  That was just
 after a few uncomfortable border incidents so we were somewhat psyched.
 Fortunately, we found help, the bank machine got us money to buy our first
 Czech beer and everything went well from there.  Most of you will likely be
 travelling by main line stations and more conventional means - just be aware
 of what's going on around you, and enjoy a wonderful country and a super
 opportunity.  Sure wish I could be there too.
 
 It's raining...maybe I should make some lace this afternoon.
 
 JulieO in Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada where it's definitely spring although
 not as warm and sunny as the cats and garden would like.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Dear Julie ‹  Like you, I was 975 tallies distant from the goal, and it
might just as well have been 1,975 or 2,975, as nothing seemed to improve
much no matter how many I made. Then, unexpectedly, Christine Springett's
method of tally-making flew in the window one day, and the 975 just melted
away! Now I look at leaves and tallies as just all in the day's work. These
are made directly on the pillow, with your left hand holding the three
passives down. Your right hand, holding the weaver bobbin, travels leftward
over-under-over, and returns under-over-under, and then tension; meanwhile,
as your left hand is keeping a very strict discipline over those three
naughty passives, your right hand is subtly 

Re: [lace] May flower

2004-05-09 Thread Beth Schoenberg
Hi, all,

I don't know about any magical (or even medicinal) properties of the 
mayflower, but I do know what it looks like.  It's a moist-woodland 
plant, bright shamrock-green, that grows in colonies, each plant maybe 
10-12 inches tall.   Each one has an umbrella of a single leaf (with 
about 7 lobes or so -- don't remember for sure) on a straight, strong, 
vertical stem.   The flower grows on a delicate little curved stem 
immediately under the main leaf, is generally hidden by the leaf, and 
is pale and creamy;   it looks so different and delicate compared to 
the robust leaf and stem that you'd almost think they were a botanical 
hoax!

Is this the one you mean?  I'm dredging my memory on this -- we used to 
have them growing in the deeper woodsy areas behind my house in New 
Jersey.   There are probably other plants called mayflowers in other 
areas of N. America that are completely unrelated to this one, but this 
is the only one I'm even vaguely familiar with.  Hope it helps!

Beth Schoenberg
--- in beautiful downtown Wanniassa, Canberra, where we're having two 
*glorious* autumn days, and the thousands of imported deciduous trees 
are giving us a spectacular color show!

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Re: [lace-chat] Guimpe

2004-05-09 Thread Joy Beeson
At 01:44 PM 5/8/04 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Which reminds me that I set out to read and review all the library's Gene
Stratton-Porter books, and got distracted.   I read _Girl of the Limberlost_
long ago, so I don't recall any reference to guimpe.  

My old dictionary, however, defines it as [F, cf. Wimple] a kind of
chemisette, usually with sleeves, worn with a low-necked dress.  

Sounds like the precursor of the white blouses that were an essential part
of a girls wardrobe in the forties and fifties.  Guimps appear to have been
underwear -- but shirts were underwear in that era.  

Was this the book in which the girl went off to school in a gathered skirt
when the fashion was pleated?  And then later on her mother bleached her
face and did other desperate things to maker herself look sheltered and
idle, so that she wouldn't embarrass the girl before the high-toned people
she had met?

-- 
Joy

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Re: [lace-chat] Heather's Phone Call

2004-05-09 Thread H. Muth
Yes, all,

I did phone David, but not in the middle of the night.  He certainly didn't 
sound as Aussie as I expected, more like an Englishman who has lived in 
Australia for some time.

We had a nice talk about weather, climate change, David's summer holidays, 
time zones, forest fires, lace, old Arachnes, Tamara, linguistics, accents, 
and even more than that.

If I had used my regular telephone provider, it would have cost me just 
over $1CAD per minute but I used another long distance provider and it 
should only cost me $.25CAD per minute.  At least it better!  I won't find 
out until my bill comes in.  $5 for a chance to talk to David was well 
worth it, I thought.

I like having the voice and the photo to go along with the letters from 
Arachnids.  I 'hear' them when I read their writings.  I have a picture of 
Bev Walker in my mind whenever she writes.  And any others I have met or 
heard or of whom I have seen pictures.  It just adds to the daily Arachne dose.

Well, my billy has boiled and I'm off to enjoy a 'nice cup of tea'.

Heather
Sunny Abbotsford, BC
At 03:15 PM 07/05/2004 +1000, David Collyer wrote:
Dear Friends,
About half an hour ago I had the most delightful chat with Heather MUTH 
from B.C., Canada!! Yes, she phoned.
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[lace-chat] fans

2004-05-09 Thread Maureen Harvey
Dear Joan from Melbourne, thanks for your information, after looking for the
book for so long I was amazed to find an answer from yourself and also from
Jane in Vermont USA, it just goes to show what a good lot lacemakers are.
I now hope to track down the book and get making my miniature fan.
Best wishes from a grateful fellow lacer.

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[lace-chat] Canadian Antiques Roadshow

2004-05-09 Thread Margot Walker
Canada is finally going to have its own Antiques Roadshow and today they 
were evaluating and taping in Halifax, for viewing on CBC in the Fall.  
I got a ticket and found out that the painting I rescued from my 
ex-father-in-law's garbage can is worth C$400 - 600 and the drop leaf 
table that I inherited and that family legend has is a Duncan Phyfe, 
bought in New York City, is really a rare Montreal table from the 1790s 
and is worth C$24,000 - 26,000!  I'm walking on air.   Of course, if I 
sell the table my mother will disinherit me, but that's another story.  
It was fascinating seeing how the programme is put together and what 
other people brought in to be evaluated.  The tapings will be moving 
across Canada during the next couple of weeks.  Look at:

http://www.canadianantiquesroadshow.org/

to see if it will be near you and to get tickets.  It's a great way to 
spend a morning.

Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada
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[lace-chat] Re: Heather's Phone Call (pictures in my mind)

2004-05-09 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On May 8, 2004, at 16:43, H. Muth (Heather) wrote:

I like having the voice and the photo to go along with the letters 
from Arachnids.  I 'hear' them when I read their writings.  I have a 
picture of Bev Walker in my mind whenever she writes.  And any others 
I have met or heard or of whom I have seen pictures.  It just adds to 
the daily Arachne dose.
Indeed it does :) Which is one of the big reasons why I love my Mac 
(OSX) so much. Its Mail system has this cute feature, where you can put 
the photo of someone into your addressbook, with all the other details. 
And then, every time that person writes/posts on the list, you get to 
see the picture (in the top left corner, next to the header). I love 
it; have been scrounging photos for it everywhere I can. Even learning 
how to use the digital camera was greatly motivated by the desire to 
illustrate as much of my addressbook as possible :) I was absolutely 
*livid* when one of the Jaguar updates stole that feature from me, 
and greatly relieved when Panther restored it.

Don't have yours, Heather; wanna e-mail me one? Jpg format by 
preference, please.
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Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
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[lace-chat] Guimpe

2004-05-09 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
My Webster's dictionary says Guimpe : 1- A blouse worn under a jumper or
pinafore
2 -a wide cloth used to cover neck and shoulders by some nuns
3 - gimp
Hope this helps to make sense of the text.

from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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