[lace] Lace magazine - cover has inspired me to Honiton
Hi everyone. I too was thrilled to get my Lace magazine this weekend. I saw the front cover, was inspired and looked eagerly at the inside pages to see if the design was accompanied by its pattern. Sadly it wasn't, but as I read that it took the lacer (Barbara Churchward) ten years to complete I engaged brain and thought that my initial adrenaline inspired idea to embark on this as my first ever piece of Honiton lace was so way out as to be ridiculous! Does anyone on the list know any more about this mat? Does it look even more stunning in reality? How large is it so on? Next to get back to the inspiration and a wish to have a go at Honiton I'd like your ideas on the question Do I need the right equipment? I know that if I take to this particular style of lace I would, but until I know I wouldn't want to buy another pillow and a set of new bobbins. I've got le UK Lace Guild's basic technical instruction book for Honiton, which has enough details to tell me how. Would a 16in domed straw pillow be ok to start with? (or a flat polystyrene one) Would unspangled light weight midlands bobbins work, or would they be so frustrating as to put me off before I got going? When I did my first attempts at Milanese braids I enlarged the prickings and used a thicker thread. What would the pitfalls of doing this as a complete Honiton beginner? Many thanks as always for your thoughts Viv - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace magazine - cover has inspired me to Honiton
Hi Viv: I haven't seen the Lace Guild magazine yet, but as to your other questions: I'd like your ideas on the question Do I need the right equipment? I know that if I take to this particular style of lace I would, but until I know I wouldn't want to buy another pillow and a set of new bobbins. Traditional Honiton uses very fine threads, and involves many sewings. You therefore need very lightweight bobbins that are smooth so they don't snag break the threads when you do the sewings. They do not have to be traditional Honiton bobbins. I have made fine Honiton successfully with Binche bobbins and some very lightweight Swiss bobbins I happen to have, as well as unspangled Midlands bobbins, though if they're unfinished you'll have to be careful not to snag them. As for pillows: I learned on a straw-filled pillow, and they're nice if you can easily get one cheap. I still have my first, all-too-ambitious Honiton project sitting on that straw-filled pillow (it's been 23 years, now), so I use my standard cookie pillows for my newer (and less ambitious) projects. When I did my first attempts at Milanese braids I enlarged the prickings and used a thicker thread. What would the pitfalls of doing this as a complete Honiton beginner? Because Honiton uses such fine threads, it uses techniques that can be unsightly with thicker threads. For example, you may be directed to finish off 6 pairs of threads by bunching them together, tying threads around the bundle several times, and cutting off. That's pretty well invisible if you're using 170/2 thread - if you're using Pearl Cotton #8 it makes a really big bump! Probably you'd use some thread in between these two extremes, but I'd say that you may well do better to use a 100/2 or 80/2 for your first attempts, so you get something nice without having much of a problem with your thread breaking. Hope this helps. Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] mayflower and other floral emblems, Schneeberger angel, tallies, money in Prague
Apologies...some of this probably should be on lace chat...except I'm not. Mayflower - According to the Dept. of Agriculture (Canada), the Nova Scotia floral emplem, the mayflower is a trailing arbutus (epigaea repens) that grows across Atlantic and eastern Canada as far west as Saskatchewan. It's apparently very common in Nova Scotia and was selected for their emblem in 1901. I have a booklet with photos that shows clusters of tiny white flowers with large shiny evergreen leaves. The booklet is likely out of print - I purchased mine in 1967 for 50 cents - and a quick check of their webpage failed to turn it up. I have more info I can share on any of the floral emblems (including how to grow them) if anyone wants to contact me off list. I've always wondered if anyone has tried reproducing the floral emblems in lace? Patons produced a knit afghan booklet with charts for the different provincial flowers (alas, the territories are missing g), I know I've seen various counted cross stitch renditions, and, of course, Bev Walker sells sets of gorgeous bobbins painted with the emblems.If there's anything in lace, I've not seen it. I'm nowhere near the designing stage myself, but maybe one day I'll do something myself. Except, my experiences with Honiton and Duchesse a few years back almost turned me off lace and those are the techniques that spring to mind. In the meantime, I have finally finished the Schneeberger angel from one of Lia Baumeister Jonker's booklets that I started last fall. It turned out quite nicely, especially against a dark backing. Most of the pattern was straight forward although I had to really think through a few steps before I worked them. The instruction is in somewhat idiosyncratic English and while very charming isn't always easy to follow with just the written information. One funny little thing that I've encountered once before - in one place I inadvertently looped my thread around the previous pin so I'm now stuck with a tiny loop of loose thread on the right side. Only thing I can think of is to bring it through to the back and hide it there. Fortunately, this piece will be framed so it's unlikely to show. One benefit of doing this design - I now have 25 tallies to my credit, and a few of them actually look ok. It's just as well that I have another 975 before I achieve perfection as it's going to take me that many g. Money in Prague? When I was there in 2000 (had really hoped to get there this summer but it's just not working out), I had no trouble either changing money or using my Visa card. I use Visa wherever I can, it's works for me like my current account, and I found even the smaller places there took it. There were bank machines anywhere I needed one. I usually used the one at the subway stop where I was staying. I was aware of all the horror stories and I'm pretty street conscious overall. There were places where I wouldn't have used a bank machine, there were places I wouldn't have felt like walking around... but that's no different than being anywhere else in the world and IMO not anything to unduly stress about. Oh yes, the first place I used a bank machine was in a scruffy train station near Cheb (we were coming from Bayreuth in Germany) where nothing was in English and it was not easy to read the train schedule, signs or anything else. That was just after a few uncomfortable border incidents so we were somewhat psyched. Fortunately, we found help, the bank machine got us money to buy our first Czech beer and everything went well from there. Most of you will likely be travelling by main line stations and more conventional means - just be aware of what's going on around you, and enjoy a wonderful country and a super opportunity. Sure wish I could be there too. It's raining...maybe I should make some lace this afternoon. JulieO in Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada where it's definitely spring although not as warm and sunny as the cats and garden would like. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] V A Lace book - postage
Just a reminder to those who want the new VA lace book by Clare Brown but don't want to pay the mail charges from England: Way back in February when we talked about this book, I mentioned that it was being simultaneously published in the US by Harry Abrams. In fact, I just bought it from chapters.indigo (a canadian bookseller) and it cost me $47 CDN, which at current rates of exchange is about 19 british pounds or about $35 US. They threw in the shipping for free because the order was over $39 Cdn. If you want to try looking for it at your local booksellers, the ISBN of the US publication is 0810966239. Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: lace-digest V2004 #143
Viv If you do want to try out Honiton without wasting money on new equipment but without hampering yourself so you give up unnecessarily, I'd suggest the following: Pillow: If you have a 16 inch domed straw pillow, use it, provided it is firm. If you want to use a slightly domed polystyrene pillow, put a layer of felt under to cover cloth - it needs a bit of give for sewings, oddly enough. I find it helpful to sit with feet on a footstool and pillow on lap, but really, use any set-up that works. Photos of 19th century workers shows they used pillows unlike our standard modern Honiton ones anyway. However, a very large 23 inch one would almost certainly make life very difficult, especially on smaller pieces. At the Honiton class I attend (in Honiton), most people use a stand or table in any case, so all that matters is the top of the pillow, not the depth, and the Belgian ladies use the equipment they are used to. Bobbins: I would buy a new set. 24 (12 pairs) should be enough to take you to the stage of knowing whether you like it or not, and proper ones are (at least in the UK) not expensive - 33p each a couple of years ago. These standard beech ones are better than the more expensive, generally thinner, ones sold by general bobbin makers more used to Midlands bobbins. If you use the Continental ones with the bulbous ends, you will probably find the Honiton techniques and ways of working harder - the different bobbins and pillows and Continental techniques work well together, but you'll end up making Duchesse, not Honiton, not surprisingly. Books: The Lace Guild book is a good choice, so go with it. If you want another for comparison, and in due course to progress, Susanne Thompson's two books for Batsfords are in my opinion a model of what how to do lace books should be. The second is one of the few that gets you into advance techniques smoothly, and the patterns are not just efficient exercises, but desirable in their own right. However, the Guild book is more than good enough for starters. Thread: Use 120/2 Egyptian cotton or equivalent to start with, and later, if you want to, use 170/2 or equivalent (the Egyptian 170/2 is very close to other spinners' 180/2). The standard patterns are all generally plotted for one or the other, your book for the 120/2, and if you use something else, you'll have to adapt patterns, use different numbers of pairs, or get an odd result - too much of a pain when you're learning. Most Honiton workers will use just one or the other, depending on preference or local tradition. The current habit in Honiton itself at present (ie in the Perryman line) is in fact to use 120/2, so don't feel the need to convert to thinner just to be more correct, if you can't get on with it. On the other hand, if you want to and do, again go for it. Sticking with the one thickness is useful in maintaining tension, instinctively knowing how many pairs are needed, and if necessary how to prick out your own patterns or true up old ones. Pricking card: It is a lot easier to use the thicker card, for sewings etc, and you really do need very little. The glue in sticky-backed plastic can be a nuisance, but some people get on with it. Prick with a no 8 sharp (or betweens/quilting) needle; you do need a good pinhole, and don't want to struggle pushing pins all the way in. Until I did this, I too ended up roughing up finger tips, bending pins etc, wondering whether I needed pushing devices. Problem, as so often, was between the ears; lacemakers should follow their fingers, not their brains. Needle pin: Do try and use a proper one, and persevere with it. Again, get a cheap beech one from a Honiton supplier - I am amazed at how awkward some fancy ones can be to use. It is worth the effort, as the really tricky sewings cannot be done with hooks or bits of cotton in needles, and you always forget at least one magic thread. You need the practice on the simple ones! I got myself into the habit by not using a hook until I had had three proper goes with the needle pin, regardless. At first, it was three goes, then the hook did it, but gradually it happened, probably because I was not tense, and just going through the motions before I could use the hook. On raised work with several sewings, it's so much quicker with the pin that you're not put off raising by the thought of having to sew. Do though pull up before and after the edge stitch to get a clean pin hole. It not only looks better, it's so much easier for sewings. Don't forget, if you knit, you're used to pulling threads through loops using a needle without a hook on the end... Hope this is helpful - it's from someone who learnt the basics from Mrs Thompson's first book before going to classes, so it can be done! On the other hand, the improvement on going to Mrs Perryman's classes was, to put it mildly, marked! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Looking forward to a week at the beginning of July in Honiton on a course with Mrs P. -
Re: [lace] Lace magazine - cover has inspired me to Honiton
on 5/9/04 2:09 PM, aurelia loveman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/9/04 11:06 AM, Viv Dewar at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone. I too was thrilled to get my Lace magazine this weekend. I saw the front cover, was inspired and looked eagerly at the inside pages to see if the design was accompanied by its pattern. Sadly it wasn't, but as I read that it took the lacer (Barbara Churchward) ten years to complete I engaged brain and thought that my initial adrenaline inspired idea to embark on this as my first ever piece of Honiton lace was so way out as to be ridiculous! Does anyone on the list know any more about this mat? Does it look even more stunning in reality? How large is it so on? Next to get back to the inspiration and a wish to have a go at Honiton I'd like your ideas on the question Do I need the right equipment? I know that if I take to this particular style of lace I would, but until I know I wouldn't want to buy another pillow and a set of new bobbins. I've got le UK Lace Guild's basic technical instruction book for Honiton, which has enough details to tell me how. Would a 16in domed straw pillow be ok to start with? (or a flat polystyrene one) Would unspangled light weight midlands bobbins work, or would they be so frustrating as to put me off before I got going? When I did my first attempts at Milanese braids I enlarged the prickings and used a thicker thread. What would the pitfalls of doing this as a complete Honiton beginner? Many thanks as always for your thoughts Viv - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Viv -- Honiton isn't so terrifying as your e-letter might suggest! The 16 domed pillow would be fine; so would the polystyrene cookie. You could certainly use the unspangled midlands bobbins; you could equally well use delicate and pretty little wooden Binche bobbins, if that's what you had. However, I would not really, not! do the enlarged pricking and the thicker thread. I think you would lose the sense of Honiton, the fine light hand, the delicate turns. (That's only my opinion) The most thing I would suggest is that you get a copy of Susanne Thompson's first book, Introduction to Honiton Lace. Sue will take you by the hand very gently, lead you past pillow and bobbin issues, and before you know it, you will be making Honiton lace! When you realize that that's, in fact, what you are doing, you will be so thrilled that you will rush right out and get Perryman and Voysey's New Designs in Honiton Lace. That book is pure heaven. I have survived beginnerhood in Honiton: my first teacher was Elsie Luxton, then Cynthia Voysey for years; and then (two or three years ago) a workshop with Pat Perryman. So I say, Don't hesitate! Good luck! Aurelia Loveman - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] V A Book and Postagess
Dear Sue, and others, I have ordered my copy from Amazon in US$ and it came to $38.90 plus cheapest postage (4-5 weeks) $18 so with current exchange rates of 7.1 ? as opposed to 4.1 ? that should be a better deal. It hasn't hit my bank statement yet so can't give an exact value in Aussie$s. I should get it in about 2 more weeks. I'm not surprised or disappointed to hear that there is more needle lace than bobbin lace. When I visited the V and A last year the needle lace I saw was stunning! Annette Meldrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] South Coast of New South Wales, Australia. Yesterday we had our first taste of winter approaching and needed to turn on the heating. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Fink Sent: Sunday, 9 May 2004 10:34 AM To: lace digest Subject: [lace] V A Book and Postagess Hi All, The current thread about postages charges reminded me that I had intended to send a message to you all about the postal charges for the Lace book from V A. This is of special interest to those of you at this end of the world! (Oz, NZ) I ordered the book through the V and A site and had no problems, when I put in the option to have it sent to this part of the world the postage came up as 25 British pounds and like a fool I clicked to send the order! The book itself is 30 pounds and the cost of postage didn't penetrate through to my one brain cell until after I had sent the order off. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] mayflower and other floral emblems, Schneeberger angel, tallies, money in Prague
on 5/9/04 2:08 PM, Julie Ourom at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apologies...some of this probably should be on lace chat...except I'm not. Mayflower - According to the Dept. of Agriculture (Canada), the Nova Scotia floral emplem, the mayflower is a trailing arbutus (epigaea repens) that grows across Atlantic and eastern Canada as far west as Saskatchewan. It's apparently very common in Nova Scotia and was selected for their emblem in 1901. I have a booklet with photos that shows clusters of tiny white flowers with large shiny evergreen leaves. The booklet is likely out of print - I purchased mine in 1967 for 50 cents - and a quick check of their webpage failed to turn it up. I have more info I can share on any of the floral emblems (including how to grow them) if anyone wants to contact me off list. I've always wondered if anyone has tried reproducing the floral emblems in lace? Patons produced a knit afghan booklet with charts for the different provincial flowers (alas, the territories are missing g), I know I've seen various counted cross stitch renditions, and, of course, Bev Walker sells sets of gorgeous bobbins painted with the emblems.If there's anything in lace, I've not seen it. I'm nowhere near the designing stage myself, but maybe one day I'll do something myself. Except, my experiences with Honiton and Duchesse a few years back almost turned me off lace and those are the techniques that spring to mind. In the meantime, I have finally finished the Schneeberger angel from one of Lia Baumeister Jonker's booklets that I started last fall. It turned out quite nicely, especially against a dark backing. Most of the pattern was straight forward although I had to really think through a few steps before I worked them. The instruction is in somewhat idiosyncratic English and while very charming isn't always easy to follow with just the written information. One funny little thing that I've encountered once before - in one place I inadvertently looped my thread around the previous pin so I'm now stuck with a tiny loop of loose thread on the right side. Only thing I can think of is to bring it through to the back and hide it there. Fortunately, this piece will be framed so it's unlikely to show. One benefit of doing this design - I now have 25 tallies to my credit, and a few of them actually look ok. It's just as well that I have another 975 before I achieve perfection as it's going to take me that many g. Money in Prague? When I was there in 2000 (had really hoped to get there this summer but it's just not working out), I had no trouble either changing money or using my Visa card. I use Visa wherever I can, it's works for me like my current account, and I found even the smaller places there took it. There were bank machines anywhere I needed one. I usually used the one at the subway stop where I was staying. I was aware of all the horror stories and I'm pretty street conscious overall. There were places where I wouldn't have used a bank machine, there were places I wouldn't have felt like walking around... but that's no different than being anywhere else in the world and IMO not anything to unduly stress about. Oh yes, the first place I used a bank machine was in a scruffy train station near Cheb (we were coming from Bayreuth in Germany) where nothing was in English and it was not easy to read the train schedule, signs or anything else. That was just after a few uncomfortable border incidents so we were somewhat psyched. Fortunately, we found help, the bank machine got us money to buy our first Czech beer and everything went well from there. Most of you will likely be travelling by main line stations and more conventional means - just be aware of what's going on around you, and enjoy a wonderful country and a super opportunity. Sure wish I could be there too. It's raining...maybe I should make some lace this afternoon. JulieO in Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada where it's definitely spring although not as warm and sunny as the cats and garden would like. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Julie Like you, I was 975 tallies distant from the goal, and it might just as well have been 1,975 or 2,975, as nothing seemed to improve much no matter how many I made. Then, unexpectedly, Christine Springett's method of tally-making flew in the window one day, and the 975 just melted away! Now I look at leaves and tallies as just all in the day's work. These are made directly on the pillow, with your left hand holding the three passives down. Your right hand, holding the weaver bobbin, travels leftward over-under-over, and returns under-over-under, and then tension; meanwhile, as your left hand is keeping a very strict discipline over those three naughty passives, your right hand is subtly
Re: [lace] May flower
Hi, all, I don't know about any magical (or even medicinal) properties of the mayflower, but I do know what it looks like. It's a moist-woodland plant, bright shamrock-green, that grows in colonies, each plant maybe 10-12 inches tall. Each one has an umbrella of a single leaf (with about 7 lobes or so -- don't remember for sure) on a straight, strong, vertical stem. The flower grows on a delicate little curved stem immediately under the main leaf, is generally hidden by the leaf, and is pale and creamy; it looks so different and delicate compared to the robust leaf and stem that you'd almost think they were a botanical hoax! Is this the one you mean? I'm dredging my memory on this -- we used to have them growing in the deeper woodsy areas behind my house in New Jersey. There are probably other plants called mayflowers in other areas of N. America that are completely unrelated to this one, but this is the only one I'm even vaguely familiar with. Hope it helps! Beth Schoenberg --- in beautiful downtown Wanniassa, Canberra, where we're having two *glorious* autumn days, and the thousands of imported deciduous trees are giving us a spectacular color show! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Guimpe
At 01:44 PM 5/8/04 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which reminds me that I set out to read and review all the library's Gene Stratton-Porter books, and got distracted. I read _Girl of the Limberlost_ long ago, so I don't recall any reference to guimpe. My old dictionary, however, defines it as [F, cf. Wimple] a kind of chemisette, usually with sleeves, worn with a low-necked dress. Sounds like the precursor of the white blouses that were an essential part of a girls wardrobe in the forties and fifties. Guimps appear to have been underwear -- but shirts were underwear in that era. Was this the book in which the girl went off to school in a gathered skirt when the fashion was pleated? And then later on her mother bleached her face and did other desperate things to maker herself look sheltered and idle, so that she wouldn't embarrass the girl before the high-toned people she had met? -- Joy To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Heather's Phone Call
Yes, all, I did phone David, but not in the middle of the night. He certainly didn't sound as Aussie as I expected, more like an Englishman who has lived in Australia for some time. We had a nice talk about weather, climate change, David's summer holidays, time zones, forest fires, lace, old Arachnes, Tamara, linguistics, accents, and even more than that. If I had used my regular telephone provider, it would have cost me just over $1CAD per minute but I used another long distance provider and it should only cost me $.25CAD per minute. At least it better! I won't find out until my bill comes in. $5 for a chance to talk to David was well worth it, I thought. I like having the voice and the photo to go along with the letters from Arachnids. I 'hear' them when I read their writings. I have a picture of Bev Walker in my mind whenever she writes. And any others I have met or heard or of whom I have seen pictures. It just adds to the daily Arachne dose. Well, my billy has boiled and I'm off to enjoy a 'nice cup of tea'. Heather Sunny Abbotsford, BC At 03:15 PM 07/05/2004 +1000, David Collyer wrote: Dear Friends, About half an hour ago I had the most delightful chat with Heather MUTH from B.C., Canada!! Yes, she phoned. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] fans
Dear Joan from Melbourne, thanks for your information, after looking for the book for so long I was amazed to find an answer from yourself and also from Jane in Vermont USA, it just goes to show what a good lot lacemakers are. I now hope to track down the book and get making my miniature fan. Best wishes from a grateful fellow lacer. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Canadian Antiques Roadshow
Canada is finally going to have its own Antiques Roadshow and today they were evaluating and taping in Halifax, for viewing on CBC in the Fall. I got a ticket and found out that the painting I rescued from my ex-father-in-law's garbage can is worth C$400 - 600 and the drop leaf table that I inherited and that family legend has is a Duncan Phyfe, bought in New York City, is really a rare Montreal table from the 1790s and is worth C$24,000 - 26,000! I'm walking on air. Of course, if I sell the table my mother will disinherit me, but that's another story. It was fascinating seeing how the programme is put together and what other people brought in to be evaluated. The tapings will be moving across Canada during the next couple of weeks. Look at: http://www.canadianantiquesroadshow.org/ to see if it will be near you and to get tickets. It's a great way to spend a morning. Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Heather's Phone Call (pictures in my mind)
On May 8, 2004, at 16:43, H. Muth (Heather) wrote: I like having the voice and the photo to go along with the letters from Arachnids. I 'hear' them when I read their writings. I have a picture of Bev Walker in my mind whenever she writes. And any others I have met or heard or of whom I have seen pictures. It just adds to the daily Arachne dose. Indeed it does :) Which is one of the big reasons why I love my Mac (OSX) so much. Its Mail system has this cute feature, where you can put the photo of someone into your addressbook, with all the other details. And then, every time that person writes/posts on the list, you get to see the picture (in the top left corner, next to the header). I love it; have been scrounging photos for it everywhere I can. Even learning how to use the digital camera was greatly motivated by the desire to illustrate as much of my addressbook as possible :) I was absolutely *livid* when one of the Jaguar updates stole that feature from me, and greatly relieved when Panther restored it. Don't have yours, Heather; wanna e-mail me one? Jpg format by preference, please. - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Guimpe
My Webster's dictionary says Guimpe : 1- A blouse worn under a jumper or pinafore 2 -a wide cloth used to cover neck and shoulders by some nuns 3 - gimp Hope this helps to make sense of the text. from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]