[lace] The ISG Museum

2004-10-19 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Thank you, Devon, for 2 very interesting articles in the Bulletin. It sounds 
like you had a good time at the Convention!

And an especially big Thank You for the article on the Gardner Museum.  I am 
sure there are many lacemakers like me, who can only view these wonderful 
places through other people's eyes, and I am so grateful that you are 
willing to write up articles so we can all enjoy them.  And with photos - 
OH! that beautiful lappet!! (Photo 2)
What brilliantly clever lacemakers there were in the old days (as well as 
now - I hasten to add!) and what wonderful designers there were, too.  That 
lappet has such a lovely flowing design, with the twirls in the centre, and 
the swirls at the end! It is great to know these things have been 
preserved for us to enjoy.

More lovely articles and photos, please!!! :))
from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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[lace] Interesting use for lace

2004-10-19 Thread Jean Nathan
Sorry, not for this list I know, but I can't resist this.

Su wrote:

Is this an answer to that perennial question -- what to give the person who
has everything?

Thought the answer to that was 'penicillin' :-)

Jean in Poole

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[lace] Political comments

2004-10-19 Thread Avital
Hi, all,

My home computer is in the shop having a brain transplant, so I'm only able to check 
my personal e-mail (briefly) at work. Thank-you, all, for your e-mails. I can't write 
individual replies because of time constraints but I appreciate your taking the time 
to write. 

Sylvia, the lace list is not for political debate. A sig is okay. A debate is not. So 
if you want to debate these issues with Tamara, it's best to take it to chat or, 
better yet, to private e-mail. I confess that Tamara's comments passed right over my 
head because I'm not American. I'm more concerned with suicide bombers than Bush's tax 
cuts.

Tamara, please remember that this is an international list. Half the time when you 
post comments construed as 'political,' I haven't the foggiest idea what you're 
talking about. Your complaints about the Bush administration would, I think, be better 
directed to your closest friends or to an American-dominated list.

In the interests of list peace (I know feelings run high before elections over there), 
I am going to ask all of you to keep a lid on the political commentary for a while.

The next person who posts a political comment will get daily, excruciatingly detailed 
e-mails from me about candidates in the Maale Adumim municipal elections. ;-)

Best wishes,

Avital,
in hot, sunny Israel

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Re: [lace] 2 questions

2004-10-19 Thread Clay Blackwell
In answer to your second question, the rings which are an
alternative to the green horseshoe:

The ring is a piece of flexible tubing which has a small
post to join the two ends.  In the package, you get two
different sized rings.  If neither of these is big enough,
you can join the two for a much bigger ring.

The tubing reminds me of the tubing used for air hoses in
aquariums.

I've not used this device, but happened to see it at a lace
day not long ago.

Clay

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From: Elizabeth Ligeti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 9:50 PM
Subject: [lace] 2 questions


 I always seem to be asking questions!!  (I think I was one
of those terrible
 kids who said Why to everything!!!)

 1)I seem to have lost from my Favourites bookmarking,
the web site, where
 there are translations of Lace Terms.  Could anyone please
give it to me
 again?

 2) I understand there is a Ring thing that works even
better than the Green
 Horseshoe, and that it has extensions to make larger
rings.  Does anyone
 know of these?  Can you point me in the right direction to
find them,
 please? - and perhaps give me it's correct name!

 from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
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Re: [lace] 2 questions

2004-10-19 Thread Tregellas Family
Hi Liz,

At 11:50 AM 19-10-04 +1000, Liz Ligeti wrote:
2) I understand there is a Ring thing that works even better than the Green 
Horseshoe, and that it has extensions to make larger rings.  Does anyone 
know of these?  Can you point me in the right direction to find them, 
please? - and perhaps give me it's correct name!


Maybe somebody who attended our AGM still hasn't cleaned out their
goodies bag yet (I did 'cos I needed it to travel to Perth last week) but
there was an advert in it for just this same thing.  So please,  Helene and
others, dig deep to find the info for Liz if you can.

Bye for now,
Shirley T - Adelaide, South Australia, 20deg. C  forecast for tomorrow
Yippee, beach here I come

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Re: [lace] 2 questions Plastic Tubing

2004-10-19 Thread WebbRP54
Thanks for the information on the ring.  I'm going to stop at the hardware 
store after work and pick up some plastic tubing.  I can make my ring and use a 
piece of dowel to put it together.
SueW
Morrisonville, NY

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[lace] RE: Ring thing

2004-10-19 Thread purple lacer
Liz wrote:
2) I understand there is a Ring thing that works even better than the Green 
Horseshoe, and that it has extensions to make larger rings.  Does anyone 
know of these?  Can you point me in the right direction to find them, 
please? - and perhaps give me it's correct name!
This past weekend our local guild had the opportunity to have Lacy Susan 
stop by our annual retreat with all her wonderful goodies.  I got one of 
those Green Horseshoes.  She also had another gadget that was essentially 
clear plastic tubing joined into a circle. There were 2 different sizes of 
circles.  I imagine you could connect both together to form a larger circle. 
 I didn't get them because they were more expensive that the green thing.  
IIRC maybe ~$8-9?  IMO way too expensive for just tubing, even if it came in 
a nice plastic case.

I asked DH about where I might be able to find clear plastic tubing.  He 
suggested a local hardware store.  I thought they might also have the 
connector thinges to make it into a circle.

HTH,
Anita
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Re: [lace] 2 questions

2004-10-19 Thread Dorte Zielke
Well allso an answer to second question,
I don't know the price of the ready packed rings, but at a petshop where
they are selling aquariums they have thouse flexible tubing, also they have
the post for joining, there you can bay by the meters, and as fahr as I can
remember it is cheeper then the ready packed
Dorte
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From: Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Elizabeth Ligeti [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [lace] 2 questions


 In answer to your second question, the rings which are an
 alternative to the green horseshoe:

 The ring is a piece of flexible tubing which has a small
 post to join the two ends.  In the package, you get two
 different sized rings.  If neither of these is big enough,
 you can join the two for a much bigger ring.

 The tubing reminds me of the tubing used for air hoses in
 aquariums.

 I've not used this device, but happened to see it at a lace
 day not long ago.

 Clay

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 From: Elizabeth Ligeti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 9:50 PM
 Subject: [lace] 2 questions


  I always seem to be asking questions!!  (I think I was one
 of those terrible
  kids who said Why to everything!!!)
 
  1)I seem to have lost from my Favourites bookmarking,
 the web site, where
  there are translations of Lace Terms.  Could anyone please
 give it to me
  again?
 
  2) I understand there is a Ring thing that works even
 better than the Green
  Horseshoe, and that it has extensions to make larger
 rings.  Does anyone
  know of these?  Can you point me in the right direction to
 find them,
  please? - and perhaps give me it's correct name!
 
  from Liz in Melbourne, Oz,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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[lace] Snake bookmark

2004-10-19 Thread Lacemania
Here is a bookmark I created in tatting.  It is from my new book Animal 
bookmarks, a Tatted Zoo.  It is relatively easy.  I used a new device in the picot, 
it is knotted.  This is something I have not seen before.  Several of the new 
patterns in the book use this devise as a way of embellishing the bookmark. 

www.domesticarts.com/Patterns/snake.htm 

Dianna Stevens
Kent Washington, USA
www.domesticarts.com 

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[lace] Of signatures and lace

2004-10-19 Thread Aurelia Loveman
Dear Avital -- Allow me to disagree with you. Are you telling us that 
if somebody wanted to put obscenities out on Arachne, all she (he?) 
would have to do is put them into the signature, not in the body of 
the e-mail, and that would be OK with you? Hardly. I think the same 
thing holds true with aggressive, offensive political statements. 
There are venues for that sort of thing, but our lace list is not the 
place. Signature vs. e-mail body has got nothing to do with it.

Aurelia
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RE: [lace] Halasi Lace

2004-10-19 Thread Annette Meldrum
Dear Dora,
Your stories are always very entertaining and interesting so please post
them for us all to enjoy.

Annette Meldrum 
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Wollongong, South Coast of New South Wales, Australia 
Where we have just received 2 days of much needed rain


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In a message dated 10/18/04 10:48:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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 Dear Lacers, having read some of your reports about the Halasi Lace,
 I thought you might be interested about my visit to Kiskunhalas and
 Kalocsa in 1984. Alas the report is fairly long but I could send  it in
 seperate articles if you like.

Dear Dora,

This is a most generous offer. It covers a time period when the situation in

Kiskunhalas was quite different - before Hungary became an independent 
nation.  I would be most grateful for the information you compiled in 1984,
and will share it with the lacemakers in Budapest 

If others on Arachne agree, I would suggest if you receive 10 or more 
requests for your 1984 information, it should come to the list.  

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace  Embroidery Resource Center

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[lace] plastic tubing for ring things

2004-10-19 Thread purple lacer
Hey all,
I was out running errands today and found some plastic tubing at Wal-Mart.  
My thanks to Eva in Spain for mentioning it is used in aquariums.  8' for 
less than $1!

Anita
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Re: [lace] RE: Ring thing

2004-10-19 Thread Clay Blackwell
Anita asked where to get tubing...  I suggest a pet shop
with supplies for aquariums.  That is the size I remember
seeing.

Clay

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 I asked DH about where I might be able to find clear
plastic tubing.  He
 suggested a local hardware store.  I thought they might
also have the
 connector thinges to make it into a circle.

 HTH,
 Anita

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[lace] tool question

2004-10-19 Thread Madelin Holtkamp
Dear Arachnes,

I'm getting very interested in needlelace and am working on my first
sampler.  In many of the books I've acquired, the authors refer to a tool
called a afficot, a wooden tool for polishing threads, mostly in Gros Point
de Venise.  They say that poor lacers also made them out of lobster claws
attached to a wooden handle.  Are they necessary? and available?  I sure
don't find much when I Google the word.

Thanks--Madelin
Ukiah, CA

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[lace] Afficot

2004-10-19 Thread Brian Lemin
Yes indeed, that is the story.  It is used to press down one part of the lace
so as to raise and emphasise another part pf the design.


Some time ago I made a few sets of needle lace tools that include an afficot,
lifters, ringsticks etc.  I thought I would buy my Mercedes on the proceeds,
but there was not much interest, probably because I do not make many tools for
commercial sale and thus do not advertise them;  Rather I make things that no
one else seems to make.  Now I know why few  makers make needle lace tools!


Brian and Jean from Cooranbong Australia

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[lace] Re: Ring thing

2004-10-19 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Oct 19, 2004, at 23:22, Valerie Stewart wrote:
What is the Green Horseshoe used for. I assume the plastic tubing
is used for the same thing.
Yes, to your second question. Either can be used when making tape/braid 
kind of laces (Russian, Milanese, etc) which involve a lot of pillow 
turning, working back to or over previously worked areas, etc. You push 
the older pins down as far as you can, but, sometimes, they can still 
catch on the new threads. To prevent that, you lift the new threds off 
the pillow by resting them on the ring thing or on the Green 
Horseshoe.

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Re: [lace] RE: Ring thing

2004-10-19 Thread palmhaven
Valerie,

It is used on laces to keep the threads on your pillow from getting frayed
by the pins that you have already pushed in.  I have used it on Duchesse and
Brugge because you are turning the pillow quite often while you are making
the lace.

I suppose you could use it for other laces that require turning the pillow.
I prefer the horseshoe over the ring, because if you don't put the ring on
at the beginning you have to put your bobbins through the ring.  If you are
working with a large number of bobbins, that can be a real hassle.

Lacy Susan has some of the rings as well as horseshoes.  I do not know why
your tubing wouldn't work just as well.  I'd try it and see how it works.
Before I bought a horseshoe I used my crochet hook to raise it up a little.
I tried a ring from a canning jar but didn't care for it.  Hope this helps.

Sylvia Andrews
Lacemaking talent on loan from God.

Sylvia



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 Ok you guys.
  I guess I missed something somewhere. What is the
 Green Horseshoe used for. I assume the plastic tubing
 is used for the same thing. I was making Hair Halos
 for the girls around my area,so I have a lot of this
 plastic tubing. I was glueing a smaller piece into
 the larger tubing to hold it togather in a ring. So
 If I can find out how it works.Maybe I already
 have one ;-).
 Valerie
  Liz wrote:
  2) I understand there is a Ring thing that works
  even better than the Green
  Horseshoe

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[lace] Re: Ring thing

2004-10-19 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Oct 20, 2004, at 0:16, palmhaven (Sylvia) wrote:
I prefer the horseshoe over the ring, because if you don't put the 
ring on
at the beginning you have to put your bobbins through the ring.
I almost added the same warning to my message... :)
I don't use either gizmo (made myself a heavy, hole-in-the-middle 
work cloth, with a thickly-padded inner ring instead), and while I have 
the Green Horseshoe one, I've never even seen the ring-thing one.

But then... I thought back on the descriptions of the ring-thing 
provided by those who had seen it, and it dawned on me that, indeed, it 
could be better than the horsehoe. If there are two - different size - 
rings provided in a packet, and if both can be combined to make a - 
still larger - single ring, that has to mean that neither of the rings 
is a *permanent* ring. Each has to have the ability to be straightened 
out into a line before being closed into a ring...

If so, then all one has to do is slide the line under all the bobbins 
*before* closing the circle. You don't have to thread the bobbins 
one-by-one, or even pair-by pair, into a rigidly defined circle, bcause 
there *is no* rigidly defined circle. OTOH, a tube circle, made up of 
sections and joins would allow for indefinite expansion (and, as a 
colateral, for an indefinite number of bobbins to be confined in 
comfort) while the capacity of a horsehoe contraption is definitely 
limited...

I still prefer my work-cloth though; one less contraption on my pillow 
to keep track of :)

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[lace-chat] Secret Pal thanks

2004-10-19 Thread Anne Nicholas
Hi Secret Pal,

Thank you so much for my parcel of goodies that arrived today.

I hope that you enjoyed your trip and thank you so much for the gifts that
you collected along the way.

I have added the seed magnet to my collection on the fridge and the pen has
been in use already!

The divider will come in handy and my son has bagged the teabag !!

I love the kookaburra brooch and will use the bookmark and remember you.

Thanks again as always you have been very generous!

Anne Nicholas
Hanworth,
Middx.
England

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[lace-chat] The Bill

2004-10-19 Thread Helene Gannac
david wrote:
You may recall some months back we had a discussion about what's been 
happening on The Bill. Well obviously the UK were far ahead of us when I
went to their Homepage.

DH used to watch every episode of The Bill, and he thought it was one of
the best ever police drama on TV, and even I used to watch it, and that's
a compliment indeed, as I'm usually more inclined to read or write
letters, or even make lace!
However, we stopped watching it last year, when the subject of the series
changed and became so terribly daggy and sexy and non-police oriented. We
get so fed up with steamy stories about everyone love affairs and sleeping
arrangements!! And you get the full spectrum, man-woman, woman-woman,
man-man, man-woman-man, etcSoon, we'll be into child pornography on
the screen!

Obviously the writers have run out of ideas for good police action stories
and are resorting to sex to keep their show on air. Well, it's not
succeeding with us! Give us back the good old days where policemen and
women went on the beat and actually did some worthwhile work every day!!!
If this new series reflects what our police really acts like, I want to
stop paying taxes to support them!

Helene, the froggy from Melbourne


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Re: [lace-chat] Re: Mediteranean flowers - Morning Glory

2004-10-19 Thread David Collyer
Dear Friends,
May I just thank everyone who got back to me about the lovely blue flower
we saw whilst on holiday in Southern France - it was Morning Glory.
I gather it's a cousin of the Bindweed and just as rampant in the right
conditions :(
Here in Australian rural communities we rip them out by the truckloads and 
curse our forepeople who brought them here - along with heaps of other 
lovely flowers of course, e.g. gorse, blackberries, South African cape 
weed (great for making daisy chains); onion weed, mustard grass, fennel, 
South American mimosa with its impenetrable thorns.

There have been some very recent disasters up in our Northern Territory. In 
the 70s and 80s Mission grass, Calowpo (?spelling) and Gamba grass were 
brought in as cattle fodder. Now this stuff grows up to 10 feet high. It's 
now rampant over the whole of the Top End, but the irony is that the cattle 
didn't even like it and won't eat it!!!
Love
David in Ballarat


Regards to you all,
Ann McClean
in Llanmerewig, Mid-Wales, U.K.
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  To: Lace-chat
  Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 10:38 AM
  Subject: Mediteranean flowers
  DH  I have just returned from a week's holiday in Southern France.
  We stayed in Laroque des Alberes, a village at the foot of the Chaine des
  Alberes mountain range which in turn is the eastern end of the Pyrenees.
  Everywhere we went we saw a particular climbing flower - which I cannot
  find the name of!  The flower was a trumpet shape, about the size of
  bindweed, and an intense Mediteranean blue in colour.
  The leaves were trefoil shaped, about the size of sycamore.
  And it was the one subject I didn't take a picture of :(
  At first I thought it was a clematis, but the flower construction and
  the leaves don't match - hence my request.
  Can anyone help?  Have done an image search on Google, and plenty
  of oleander and bourgainvillea which we also saw lots of, but not this
  particular one.
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[lace-chat] More Art Bras

2004-10-19 Thread H. Muth
Hello all,

Here's more art bras.  These ones all from Australia (I think).I'm 
tempted to make one myself to hang in my craft room.  Maybe men will come 
up with a decorated jock strap fundraiser for prostate cancer.

http://www.atasda.org.au/images/exhibits/bazaar_bras/index.htm

http://inaminuteago.com/braimages/Canbra.html

Heather
Overcast and cool Abbotsford.  Back from a day trip to Victoria to see the 
Treasures of Egypt exhibit.

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[lace-chat] Minute Waltz analysed

2004-10-19 Thread Schuette.Fifty
Thought you might like to read this. Found it in my attic, so it must be old
and I dont know where it comes from.


A company Managing Director who had been given tickets for a performance of
Chopin's Minute Waltz, could not attend, so he passed them to his Total
Quality Management consultant.The next morning, when the MD asked the
consultant if he had enjoyed the concert, he was handed the following
memorandum.

1) For considerable periods the four oboe players had nothing to do

2) The number should be reduced and their work spread over the whole
orchestra, thus eliminating peaks of activity

3) All twelve of the violins were playing identical notes. This seemed
unnecessary duplication and the staff of this section should
be cut drastically.

4) No useful purpose is served by repeating with horns the passage that had
already been played by the strings.

If all such redundant passages were eliminated, the whole thing could be
reduced to about five seconds.

Poor Chopin will be turning in his grave.

Greetings from the Knotter UK

Dora Northern
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Re: [lace-chat] The Bill

2004-10-19 Thread dominique
Helene Gannac a décidé d' écrire à  Ò[lace-chat] The BillÓ.
[2004/10/19 10:10]


 We
 get so fed up with steamy stories about everyone love affairs and sleeping
 arrangements!! And you get the full spectrum, man-woman, woman-woman,
 man-man, man-woman-man, etcSoon, we'll be into child pornography on
 the screen!
 
 Obviously the writers have run out of ideas for good police action stories
 and are resorting to sex to keep their show on air. Well, it's not
 succeeding with us! 

not with me either .. good to know i'm not the only one ! i was wondering 
.

dominique from lovely cold and rainy Paris, france. 

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