Re: [lace] Fans

2005-05-17 Thread Jenny Barron
try here
http://www.annmargaretkeller.com/
jenny barron
Scotland

Fran Higham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been to check out Malcolm Cox's fanstick site and notice that he
mentions that his fanssticks suit patterns by Springetts, Snowgoose and Ann
Keller.

Can anyone tell me who Ann Keller happens to be and where I may see her
patterns?

TIA

Fran

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[lace] Milanese Lace on ebay

2005-05-17 Thread Lynn Scott
Has anyone seen this piece of lace up for sale on ebay at almost $13,000
US.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=2219item=7323077731rd=1ssPageName=WD2V

Boy have I got the wrong idea about Milanese, I thought it would be
simpler than Bedfordshire or Honiton, I don't think so.

Lynn Scott in Wollongong, Australia

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Re: [lace] travel pillow on eBay

2005-05-17 Thread Malvary J Cole
When I was at Lace Convention in Bristol in April, the lady sitting next to 
me had a pillow almost identical to this one.  The main modification was 
that her husband had made a tray with a cutout hole to fit over the working 
surface so that she had more room to work.  When she packed it up for 
travelling, the tray came off and fitted down the back of the specially made 
pillowbag.  It had been home-made and the sides were made from the bottoms 
of the boxes that dates come in (usually around Christmas and from the time 
when the bottoms were actually made of wood).  The support on hers was also 
made from the bottoms of date boxes.  It worked very well and packed up very 
nicely and fitted into the travel bag she had specially made for it.  I took 
note of it at the time so that I could make one sometime.

Malvary in Ottawa
Here's a funny-looking little travel pillow:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=19158item=8191702313rd=1
Do you think it would be useful?
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[lace] decorating bobbins

2005-05-17 Thread Jenny Barron
I've just seen an easy way of decorating bobbins with postage stamps, I suppose 
it's decoupage
 
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=19319item=8192139510rd=1
 
of course to work properly the body of the bobbin would have to be straight.
 
jenny barron
Scotland where its very sunny but the north wind doth blow

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Re: [lace] decorating bobbins

2005-05-17 Thread Barb ETx
...And there are so many pretty lace stamps from  'round the world.Once
could 'build'  nice set of bobbins..

I have a set of glass bobbins that have these stamps slipped inside the stem.
Cannot remember where I got them..almost 20 years ago?   Beggars Lace,
I think.  Of course I love them,even tho' I use only Continental bobbins.

I might even try a set like those shown on ebay.What fun!
BarbE
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  I've just seen an easy way of decorating bobbins with postage stamps, I
suppose it's decoupage

  http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=19319item=8192139
510rd=1

  of course to work properly the body of the bobbin would have to be
straight.

  jenny barron
  Scotland where its very sunny but the north wind doth blow

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Re: [lace] ebay tatted coasters

2005-05-17 Thread Lacemania
Sue, as a tatter I am not offended just frustrated that most people can't 
recognize the differences between the laces.  So many times, at demos, folks 
will 
confuse tatting with crochet or bobbin lace.  I have had it also confused 
with drop spindle spinning (amazingly enough)!

So no offense.  I am glad the seller did correct her statements.

Dianna Stevens
www.domesticarts.com

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re: [lace] tatting

2005-05-17 Thread Bev Walker
Hi everyone and Jane who wrote:

 Apparently, tatting in machine lace terminology means a geometric lace
(ie of bobbin lace appearance, not tatting done with a shuttle). Hence
the number of ladies of a certain generation who insist that bobbin lace
is tatting - though they are more than likely thinking of the correct
terminology they saw applied to machine made lace in shops in their
youth, than distinguishing between terms for machine and hand made lace.

Thank you for sharing this tidbit. I'm always willing to give people the
benefit of the doubt. I also think that many people who don't do thread
craft consider 'tatting' to be anything that refers to what someone does
bent to task with thread and things. In their minds it is the same.
:p

bye for now
Bev in Sooke, BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)
Cdn. floral bobbins
www.woodhavenbobbins.com

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RE: [lace] Milanese Lace on ebay

2005-05-17 Thread Patricia Dowden
Has anyone seen this piece of lace up for sale on ebay at almost $13,000
US.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=2219item=7323077731rd=1ssPageName=WD2V

Boy have I got the wrong idea about Milanese, I thought it would be
simpler than Bedfordshire or Honiton, I don't think so.

Lynn Scott in Wollongong, Australia

===

Hi Lynn,

Yes, Milanese can be quite complex.  I have serious doubts that this is 1640 
Milanese.
The double bar brides bother me; when I see them, I always thinks later 
Flemish.  The complete symmetry of the design.  The large single piece.  Most 
of the larger items of lace from the period are more likely to have been piece 
together and built up in layers, so to speak.  

I find that the oldest laces have quality of spontaneity that later laces gave 
up for exquisiteness and order.  

These are fairly flimsy points to hang an objection on, but it just doesn't 
feel right.
My gut reaction is 19th century revival.  But everyone has an opionion, don't 
they???  LOL

Patty Dowden

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re: [lace] Milanese lace on ebay

2005-05-17 Thread Bev Walker
Hi everyone and Lynn,

Thanks for the link to the Milanese lace of antiquity!
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=2219item=7323077731rd=1ssPageName=WD2V

The description by the lace evaluator is excellent, but for that money I'd
like a bit more provenance. I note the seller prefers Paypal and
will mail the thing for $9.75 - a pedestrian amount compared to the
opening bid

Interesting to see a rate of $10.00 per square inch, new commission value.
this would be why the item is priced the way it is.
At an inch an hour, working 8-hour days, a person would be busy for about
8 months on this thing. Is it worth it?
(and would the lacemaker get benefits?)
;)

 -- bye for now
Bev in Sooke, BC (on a pretty spring day on Vancouver Island, west coast
of Canada)
Cdn. floral bobbins www.woodhavenbobbins.com

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re: [lace] decorating bobbins

2005-05-17 Thread Bev Walker
Hi everyone and Jenny:

 I've just seen an easy way of decorating bobbins with postage stamps, I
 suppose it's decoupage

Definitely is, the art of cutting out and pasting on  ;)
Works well with paper napkins too, if you have a lightweight one with a
pretty design, butterflies for instance - clip out and dab on to bare
bobbin wood, allow to dry then apply varnish.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=19319item=8192139510rd=1

 of course to work properly the body of the bobbin would have to be
 straight.

If your stamps aren't 'special' like the ones at the ebay link - they are
the US lace stamps! - you can trim the stamp to fit, or paste away and
forgive the overlap. I did a lot of the cub bobbins that SMP sells for
travel bobbins, just using standard postage stamps soaked off my mail.

-- 
bye for now
chatty Bev in Sooke, BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)
Cdn. floral bobbins
www.woodhavenbobbins.com

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[lace] Carrickmacross Lace

2005-05-17 Thread Lindy Taylour
Hi All

For those interested in Carrickmacross lace, Mary Shields tells me she will
be teaching at the IOLI Convention in Denver in August.  She will also be
giving a class at  Ithaca next October for the Finger Lakes Lace Guild's
25th Annual Lace Day Event.

Hope some of you can attend these classes. I thoroughly recommend Mary.  She
is an excellent teacher and a really nice person.

Lindy in Ireland (who has begun to learn Carrickmacross from Mary)

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Re: [lace] Milanese Lace on ebay

2005-05-17 Thread Alice Howell
At 04:17 AM 5/17/2005, you wrote:
Has anyone seen this piece of lace up for sale on ebay at almost $13,000
US.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=2219item=7323077731rd=1ssPageName=WD2V
Boy have I got the wrong idea about Milanese, I thought it would be
simpler than Bedfordshire or Honiton, I don't think so.

Don't give up, Lynn.  Milanese is not harder.  It just uses a different 
approach and working routine.  To some people, Bedfordshire is near 
impossible with the leaves and the adding/removing of many pairs.  Milanese 
tape patterns can be either very simple or very elaborate.  The same can be 
said of Bedfordshire and Honiton.  When learning a lace style, you start 
with the basics and work up to the fancier techniques.  Take a look at 
Louise Colgan's Milanese in Color patterns.  The heart pattern is not 
intimidating.

Anyway.as to the piece of Milanese on eBay, I think I tend to 
agree with Patty rather than the statements on the listing.  They say the 
comments came from a lace appraiser, but not who this person is  or the 
background/training of the person,  The reference books are the same ones I 
have.  I'm still learning, so could be very wrong with my impressions.

Just because a piece does not have a mesh background, does not mean that it 
is early 17th century.  V   A museum has a large piece dated 3rd quarter 
that has no brides at all.  See fig. 200 in Levy's book.

Also, there is no way to prove that only one person made this piece.  The 
large flower head (cabbage rose type thing) was made separately and 
fastened in when the leaf/stem trail came past it.  These could easily have 
been made by different people.  Sections could have been done by different 
people and put together when the connecting motif was reached.  The 
separate fillings in the middle of the tulip-like flower could have been 
done by a different person.  The project could have been mounted on a main 
pillow and worked on in sequence by a whole crew of lacemakers.  (It has 
been documented that rush orders were sometimes worked on round the clock 
by multiple lacemakers in rotation.)

I would more easily believe the revival lace timeline than the early date 
listed.  I could be wrong -- have been before --- and will again in the 
future, I'm sure. G

The beginning bid price is extremely high.  I would be surprised if they 
sold it.  As to the commission price comment, I guess that explains how 
they set their price because there would be 1296 square inches in it, 
though I don't know where the extra $29 fits in -- perhaps that's that cost 
of posting this item. G

By the way -- if anyone is interested in a nice needle lace tablecloth 
that's 172 inches long by 68 inches wide, there's one listed on eBay under 
either needlelace or needle lace (or just search the number 172).  It would 
fit a 12 foot table most nicely.  Perhaps a wedding caterer could put it to 
good use.

Alice in Oregon -- where I'd better get my shopping done because a big 
storm is supposed to start later today. 

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[lace] needle lace cloth 172 long

2005-05-17 Thread Alice Howell
I looked up the address for this item.  It's interesting.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7323065941
Alice in Oregon
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RE: [lace] needle lace cloth 172 long

2005-05-17 Thread Patricia Dowden
Subject: [lace] needle lace cloth 172 long
I looked up the address for this item.  It's interesting.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7323065941

Alice in Oregon

===

Hi Alice,

This sure looks like the conbined efforts of several lacemakers.  The design 
has a lovely flow.  I wonder if we could detect the hand of different 
lacemakers if we could examine the tablecloth?  This kind of project or any 
project requiring multiple workers and a consistent product is the root of all 
the rules of lacemaking.  The only real reason to be obligated to always work a 
certain way is so that many pairs of hands can produce matching work.  But even 
in the sameness, the individual spark of each pair of hands will leave subtle 
differences.

H . .

Patty

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[lace] lace fairs and football

2005-05-17 Thread Viv Dewar
Dear Friends
Having had my DH say Or Both when I was musing about attending the
Tamworth Lace Day (4 June) or the Chepstow Lace Fair (21 May) I thought
- Go for it.
What I'm wondering is how will the traffic be driving to Chepstow via
the M5 and Severn Bridge on Saturday when the Cup Final (English
Association Football for interested non-UK folks) is taking place in
Cardiff the same afternoon.
Does anyone know what it's like on these roads when there's a major
sporting event at the Millenium Stadium? (When one of the competing
teams comes from Manchester)
Would I be better off trying the M50 route (I'll be driving from
Worcestershire)?
Many thanks
Viv
Ps - Jane, my ticket for Tamworth arrived today - thank you. See you
soon!

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[lace] Veruschka's Secret - Hand Crochet from Poland

2005-05-17 Thread Jeriames
Dear Lacemakers,

Have been waiting for someone else who read The New York Times Style Magazine 
on Sunday, May 15, to report on the color photo of a Polish crocheted lace 
thong, on page 24 of the Travel Supplement.  The Web Site to see the line of 
these items -- on models (fair warning), is:

www.koniakow.com

Choose the British flag, and go to the Shop.

You will recall quite a discussion on Arachne about this a year ago, when 
(among other things) we learned Angela T. had brought one of these fashion 
items 
back for, I think, The Lace Guild's collection.  I will quote the first 
paragraph of the NYT caption, and someone else can quote the second (funnier) 
paragraph - so you all can have some fun discussing at some appropriate Summer 
lace 
event:

Three years ago, the women of Koniakow, a small village in southwest Poland 
(the country's lacemaking center), had a knotty problem: no orders.  Driven by 
necessity, they started producing lacy thongs that were sold to tourists at 
the nearby ski resorts.  A collective was formed to sell the lingerie online, 
and orders began pouring in from as far away as Japan.

Next

Jeri Ames in Maine USA  

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[lace] Re: Matisse exhibition and lace

2005-05-17 Thread Leonard Bazar
  The EG review is illustrated
 with 5 color photographs:  
 a French toile de jouy, embroidered Romanian peasant
 blouse, Turkish woman's 
 robe, North African pierced and appliqued hanging,
 plus a painting Decorative 
 Figure on an Ornamental Background - 1926.  The
 reviewer says the show 
 reveals textiles as an intrinsic element previously
 neglected in the analysis of 
 this much-studied artist, and now Matisse's love of
 textiles is set to take 
 center stage in the reassessment of one of modern
 art's greatest founding fathers.
 
 The catalog by Spurling  Matisse, His Art and His
 Textiles: The Fabric of 
 Dreams  was published by Royal Academy Publications
 in 2004, 0-9039734-6-5, 
 hardback, 40 pounds (probably around $75-$80 in
 U.S.)   The big question is 
 whether there is any lace in his collection?  This
 book may already be in the 
 bookshops of the Baltimore Museum of Art and the
 Metropolitan Museum of Art.
 

Dear Jeri

I am afraid there is no lace; the selection printed by
the EG is a good summary - though the pattern books
from the weaving firms are very impressive, the
interest is mainly colour and design, and there are
some couture garments that appear in his work as well,
and the ecclesiastical vestments.  It is an
understatement to say that for anyone interested in
Matisse or textiles, the exhibition is more than worth
while, and it makes the influence of his textiles on
his paintings obvious now, though I'd never noticed it
before!  Hilary Spurling points out that the late
paper-cutouts he used show a dressmaker's skill with
scissors.  The African wall hangings (haiti) could
inspire lace - they are coloured cotton fabrics
appliqued to sack cloth and pierced, in some cases the
holes being bound.  Techniques possibly of broderie
Anglaise or Richelieu work, but results not!

In the UK, as is often the case with exhibitions
especially at the Royal Academy, a paperback version
of the catalogue is available, but only at the
gallery.  The paper just as good as the hardback, and
it is well bound.  It's about half the price of the
hardback (I paid GBP19.95, with discount), so it might
be worth discovering if you'll be able to get it in
the US at the exhibition.


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Re: [lace] Re: Matisse exhibition and lace

2005-05-17 Thread Sue Babbs
Some info is also available on the  Royal Academy website:
http://www.ramagazine.org.uk/index.php?pid=228
Sue
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2005-05-17 Thread JOAN WILSON
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[lace] Tatted mats

2005-05-17 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
I have just looked at this item on Ebay, and it came up, still, with the 
Tatting explanation.
As I scrolled down the digest, I see it has , supposedly, been corrected. 
Well, at 2.04pm Australian Eastern Standard Time, it had not!  (It is now 
2.05 pm A.e.s.t.)

Still, it is nice to know the Tatting Lady is still alive and well, out 
there!   (said very sarcastically!!!  :))  )
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz
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Re: [lace-chat] Speed on motorways

2005-05-17 Thread Eve Morton
Steph Peters wrote:

 The M25 around Heathrow is one of the busiest
 parts; I've been told that 50 limits there are quite normal.


Also with the roadwork widening the M25 between the M3 junction to the 
M4 the speed limit at that point is only 40mph.

Eve
London, UK.
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RE: [lace-chat] Speed on motorways

2005-05-17 Thread liz thackray
Don't tell me - I spent nearly 2 hours yesterday doing the stretch between
the M40 and the M23 - about 30 miles!!!

Cheers

Liz


Steph Peters wrote:

 The M25 around Heathrow is one of the busiest parts; I've been told 
 that 50 limits there are quite normal.


Also with the roadwork widening the M25 between the M3 junction to the
M4 the speed limit at that point is only 40mph.

Eve

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Re: [lace-chat] Speed on motorways

2005-05-17 Thread Scotlace
Janice wrote the driver who didn't say a word...  Coach drivers aren't 
supposed to talk while they are driving;  It is a safety issue.  I, for one, 
get 
very uneasy when one does start chatting to the passengers nearest him.  I feel 
he is not concentrating fully on his driving and the road and traffic 
conditions.

Patricia in Wales
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