[lace] Lace with paper strings
I'm just starting the sunflower from Eva Kortelahti's book Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings. Has anyone worked something from this book? For those who haven't seen these designs, they have cut lengths of twisted, coloured paper string trapped in the work the same way that gimps are trapped. The ends of the string stick out and are unravelled when the piece is finished to form flower petals, leaves, or wings (or sometimes just as a very thick gimp). The cover of the book with three of the flower panels, including the sunflower one, can be seen on: http://www.lace-making.com/books/paper%20string.jpg tinied: http://tinyurl.com/yfdqer It appears that the lace is worked from the right side - the pricking isn't a mirror of the finished lace, (unless the photo of the finished pieces has been mirrored). It makes sense to work from the right side because it would easier to leave the ends of the paper strings laying on top of the work than try and slide them through to the wrong side. The accompanying illustration also suggests that the strings are laid on top. That results in a problem - finishing. If the threads are just trapped and cut off, that isn't a problem, but if they're knotted it means they have to be taken through to the underside for knotting. How? The teacher in the group I attend has made several of the item from the book, including the sunflower, yesterday but she had a mental block and can't remember if she worked them from the right side or the wrong side and how she finished them off - she's made so many things since then and we all know you have to really think about it when changing techniques even if it's something you've done many times in the past. I didn't give her any warning that I wanted to make the something from this book. By next week her brain will have rewound and she'll remember what she did, but in the meantime, if anyone has made something, it could help others who want to try ine if the designs in the future. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] starching on a pillow
Hello Robin I believe there are different forms of PVA. The adhesive you describe for plant sheet labels sound like the PVA adhesive we used to have on postage stamps before the peel-and-stick ones came along, and that is removable. However, glue sold for sticking wood together is also PVA and once that's set it's not water soluable. I've done a bit of Googling http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/projects/pvaadhesive.htm PVA or Polyvinyl Acetate is, in its simplest form, glue for sticking pieces of paper together. One step up the ladder, and a little stronger, it becomes an excellent wood glue for Diy enthusiasts and joiners alike. In its extreme, big boy/girl form it becomes an extremely versatile, waterproof adhesive and sealer, which has an extraordinary number of uses in the building trade. http://www.chemsystems.com/newsletters/perp/Dec02_N01S5.cfm In general, fully hydrolyzed grades of polyvinyl alcohol are used mainly in paper coating, in textile warp sizing of hydrophilic fibers, such as cotton and rayon staple yarns, and in laminating film in safety glass (after conversion to polyvinyl butyral). On the other hand, partially hydrolyzed grades are used mainly in protective colloids in emulsions, in remoistenable adhesives, in textile warp sizing for rayon filaments and polyester fibers, and in printing plates. I may have got it wrong but I've always thought that the Moravia permanent 'starch' was in fact much the same as the woodworking adhesive, and a teaspoonful of that diluted 50:50 with water will permanently stiffen lace or other textiles - at a fraction of the price! Brenda On 24 Oct 2006, at 02:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PVA certainly isn't starch, but I've not heard of it being unwash-out- able. In fact, in museum herbaria, they use only PVA for the labels on the plant sheets, exactly because it can be removed. If it can be washed out of paper, surely it can be washed out of lace. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 23, 2006 7:33 am Subject: Re: [lace] starching on a pillow To: bevw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Arachne [EMAIL PROTECTED] The permanent stiffener from Jana isn't actually starch (despite the fact that that's what she calls it in translation). It's actually PVA, or some similar polymer. Once it's applied to lace, or anything else, it's there permanently and no amount of washing will get it out. Starch on the other hand is a carbohydrate and will wash out. Brenda On 21 Oct 2006, at 17:52, bevw wrote: This is strictly personal opinion. If you have a different kind of starch, you may have different results that I had. Yes, Jana uses a different kind of starch that penetrates the thread to bind with it, chemically, and can't be removed (e.g. as by washing the lace). The lace piece is quite preserved therefore, and I suppose the goop doesn't ooze through the pricked holes in the pattern card and plastic film.I bought some by mail order, but didn't try it, not trusting myself with the idea of applying it while the lace was still on the pillow (I gave it away to another lacemaker who said 'it worked.'). Jana also sells a more conventional thread stiffener that is washable. But, usually for the ornaments she specifies the permanent type. Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line:unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings
Hello Jean I'm just starting the sunflower from Eva Kortelahti's book Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings. Has anyone worked something from this book? No, but it's on my list to have a go one day, so Ill be interested in anyone else's experiences. It appears that the lace is worked from the right side - the pricking isn't a mirror of the finished lace, (unless the photo of the finished pieces has been mirrored). It makes sense to work from the right side because it would easier to leave the ends of the paper strings laying on top of the work than try and slide them through to the wrong side. The accompanying illustration also suggests that the strings are laid on top. That results in a problem - finishing. If the threads are just trapped and cut off, that isn't a problem, but if they're knotted it means they have to be taken through to the underside for knotting. How? Do you mean the regular threads or the paper string? Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace making in Sri Lanka
You can read all about the Sri Lanka lace industry on their web site: powerofhandsfoundation.org Pompi Parry - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings
I mean the regular threads. If the piece is worked from the right side, the linen threads need to be on the back (somehow) if they're to be tied off. Not a problem if they are being cut off. At first glance, I think they'll need to be transferred to the back because there are only the two paper strings running all around the edge as thick gimps with just a pair of linen threads worked through them. Might find it's obvious when I get down to the bottom to finish off. At the moment I'm just trying to tame the pair of snakes along the top edge (it's the side actually on the finished piece). Two paper strings run all around the edge so they're fairly long. They won't wind on to bobbins, but I've managed to coil them to make them a bit more manageable. They're quite stiff and behave like springy wire. Jean - Original Message - From: Brenda Paternoster To: Jean Nathan Cc: Lace Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings Hello Jean I'm just starting the sunflower from Eva Kortelahti's book Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings. Has anyone worked something from this book? No, but it's on my list to have a go one day, so Ill be interested in anyone else's experiences. Do you mean the regular threads or the paper string? Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Missing person
I have tried several times to get in touch with Linda Sheff in Lowel, MA. USA, but no luck so far. Webb master can not find her on her reg. mail adress . Does anybody know anything about her? I need to get in touch for pos. course in Sweden 2007. Please help if you can! Ewa Eskilsson in Sweden, where we are waiting for a storm. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings
Jean, I'm sorry I can't be of any help with your question, but I have one for you. I've never seen this book and am enchanted with the photo of the cover. I'd like to give it a try, but I don't recall ever seeing the paper string for sale at any vendor's table or any Internet listing. Can anyone suggest a source for obtaining the paper strings? Oh! It just occurred to me that Alice Howell (Hi, Alice!) made an little angel with paper string wings and flower for the 2004 Arachne Christmas exchange. You can see it here (scroll down): http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/arachne/ Perhaps Alice can answer your question and/or mine! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA I'm just starting the sunflower from Eva Kortelahti's book Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings. Has anyone worked something from this book? For those who haven't seen these designs, they have cut lengths of twisted, coloured paper string trapped in the work the same way that gimps are trapped. The ends of the string stick out and are unravelled when the piece is finished to form flower petals, leaves, or wings (or sometimes just as a very thick gimp). The cover of the book with three of the flower panels, including the sunflower one, can be seen on: http://www.lace-making.com/books/paper%20string.jpg tinied: http://tinyurl.com/yfdqer snip - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings
Yep -- worked all the flower pictures. We used these for banquet decorations at our conference. Yes, you work from the front. Use temporary pins to help hold the stiff paper strings in place or out of your way. Expect to work slower than normal because of inserting the strings, but you'll soon get used to it. These pictures actually go quite fast since they have widely spaced pinholes. Finishing -- I finished the first one on the front and did not like it. Here is what I did on the rest of them. When working the side where all the knots are, work the stitch on top as normal. Place pin. Close. Lift the bobbins involved with the edging and tuck all the discard threads UNDER them and towards the top of the pillow, above the next edging pinhole. Use a temp pin to hold the threads up out of the way. Do the Tuck Under process on all the way down this side. Finish the fourth side where you sew in all the connections. Leave the last two threads long after you tie them off. (Will explain later.) Now the fun part. Bundle all the discard bobbins, or remove the bobbins leaving the thread ends hanging. Unpin the whole thing. Carefully turn it over and repin two rows above the loose threads.Tie off the hanging threads in pairs. Trim ends, or if you're really fussy, weave in the ends and then trim. Back to the last corner, where the outline paper strings meet the start. I tuck the excess paper strings to the back of the picture, and bend them to fit behind the starting strings. Use one of the hanging strings to overcast the paper string ends to the beginning ones, following the thread lines of the pattern. Do this for 1/2 - 1 inch. Fasten thread. Cut off excess paper string. Weave in second hanging string. Trim. Then have patience while you untwist the paper string ends in the picture. Let me know if this is not clearly explained. Alice in Oregon -- where my jury duty today was cancelled so I have the day for myself --- Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just starting the sunflower from Eva Kortelahti's book Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings. Has anyone worked something from this book? .. That results in a problem - finishing. If the threads are just trapped and cut off, that isn't a problem, but if they're knotted it means they have to be taken through to the underside for knotting. How? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings
Thanks to Alice for giving the answer on finishing and handling the string - also useful for anyone else who makes any of the designs using paper strings. To answer Barbara's question on where to get paper strings, I got 9 different coloured bundles of strings from Tim Parker at last year's Poole Bobbin Lace Day. I also got 5 yards of white this week from him (he's in the next town). I believe he is going to stop selling them - probably not a great deal of demand for them. They're currently listed on his web site under sundries: PAPER STRINGS As used by Eeva-Liisa Kortelahti in her new book 'Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings' 10 metre skein - available in 16 colours each £1.25 175 metre hanks - white each £12.00 Colours available - white, natural, dark green, light green, red, lilac, pink,yellow, blue, apricot, orange, brown, blue/black, coral red and grey. http://www.cyberlink.co.uk/timparker/index.html Link to the catalogue is at the bottom of the page - the left hand pane doesn't work for me. I have no connection with Tim other than being a satisfied customer. There are 5 suppliers addresses listed in the front of the book - three in Finland, Theo Brejaart in the Netherlands and one address (other than Tim) in England. I'm told the large angel featured in the book takes 8 yards of string. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - Original Message - From: Barbara Joyce To: Jean Nathan ; Lace Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings Jean, I'm sorry I can't be of any help with your question, but I have one for you. I've never seen this book and am enchanted with the photo of the cover. I'd like to give it a try, but I don't recall ever seeing the paper string for sale at any vendor's table or any Internet listing. Can anyone suggest a source for obtaining the paper strings? Oh! It just occurred to me that Alice Howell (Hi, Alice!) made an little angel with paper string wings and flower for the 2004 Arachne Christmas exchange. You can see it here (scroll down): http://homepage.mac.com/bejoyce/arachne/ Perhaps Alice can answer your question and/or mine! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA I'm just starting the sunflower from Eva Kortelahti's book Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings. Has anyone worked something from this book? For those who haven't seen these designs, they have cut lengths of twisted, coloured paper string trapped in the work the same way that gimps are trapped. The ends of the string stick out and are unravelled when the piece is finished to form flower petals, leaves, or wings (or sometimes just as a very thick gimp). The cover of the book with three of the flower panels, including the sunflower one, can be seen on: http://www.lace-making.com/books/paper%20string.jpg tinied: http://tinyurl.com/yfdqer snip - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] My website pattern has been changed
Dear friends At long last I have got around to changing the BL pattern on my website - it's now the hexagonal edging which was pattern 1. The voting was very close with pattern 1 getting 59 votes, pattern 2 got 55 votes and pattern 3 trailed with 31 votes. I am especially pleased that pattern 1 was the favourite - it's a variation on the rainbow mat which the late Jean Barratt was especially fond of, and as she was one of the first to vote for it, it's on the website in memory of her. Please have a look at the new choices and register your votes Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/pattern/lacepattern.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings
Hello Jean I think Alice has answered the question about how to deal with knotting the threads. Re managing the paper strings without bobbins; you could try holding the coil together with a clothes peg, or a mini bulldog clip, or maybe just an elastic band. Brenda On 24 Oct 2006, at 11:39, Jean Nathan wrote: I mean the regular threads. If the piece is worked from the right side, the linen threads need to be on the back (somehow) if they're to be tied off. Not a problem if they are being cut off. At first glance, I think they'll need to be transferred to the back because there are only the two paper strings running all around the edge as thick gimps with just a pair of linen threads worked through them. Might find it's obvious when I get down to the bottom to finish off. At the moment I'm just trying to tame the pair of snakes along the top edge (it's the side actually on the finished piece). Two paper strings run all around the edge so they're fairly long. They won't wind on to bobbins, but I've managed to coil them to make them a bit more manageable. They're quite stiff and behave like springy wire. Jean - Original Message - From: Brenda Paternoster To: Jean Nathan Cc: Lace Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Lace with paper strings Hello Jean I'm just starting the sunflower from Eva Kortelahti's book Bobbin Lace with Paper Strings. Has anyone worked something from this book? No, but it's on my list to have a go one day, so Ill be interested in anyone else's experiences. Do you mean the regular threads or the paper string? Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Missing Person
Linda got in touch with me herself a coulpe of hours after I sent my request! Her computer has been in disorder. All is well that ends well! Ewa Eskilsson in Sweden. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lori, Lacefairy, Recovering in Hospital
Dear Lacemakers, Picked up our Lacefairy at 5:30 a.m. today to transport to hospital for knee replacement surgery and stayed to fetch and serve. Her surgeon told us at 2:00 p.m. that he expected her to sit up for dinner, and will send her home on Thursday. My! That is a rapid turnaround. She'll go for the second knee replacement in a few months.. I'm back home from tickling toes - and yes, there was a giggle response. Jeri Ames in Maine USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
