[lace] New Ulrike Voelcker book

2007-02-28 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
What gorgeous flowers.  They look like some of the Venetian Gros Point 
Needlelace flowers.
Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, -  just back from holidays, and where we 
have had some Rain :)
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[lace] making lace for a historical costume

2007-02-28 Thread Nelleke Glansdorp
Dear Arachneans Thanks for all the help on getting the right kind of
pattern for de lace that will go on the sleeves of Prince Maurits (around
1600). I hereby want to thank everyone who wrote to me with advice or
helpt me in a different manner. It is finished. Well within the
timelimits. In a couple of weeks the lace will be on display in the army
museum in Delft, The Netherlands. Before handing it over to the costume
maker, I made a scan of the lace. The pattern is an adaptation of a
pattern from the Linnenkast from the OIDFA study group of old Dutch
household linnens. By reducing the size to suit linnen 120/2, it is now a
very delicate little lace. The costume maker got a flattering, greedy
look in her eyes and started to talk about how it would look on this
piece of red velvet she had. And how she could make me a nice period
dress if I provided her with another 50 centimeters of the same stuff.
Almost a pitty I don't need a period dress.Is there somewhere I could
sent the picture so that it can be seen? There will be more pictures, the
costume-maker assured me. Maybe I can convince my fiancee to teach me how
to make my own photo album, so I will be able to share those pictures
with you. Greetings from Nelleke Glansdorp in Leiden, The Netherlands.



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[lace] Finished garter!

2007-02-28 Thread Dona B.
I'm doing the happy dance because I've finished my daughter's wedding garter.
Actually I finished the garter a little over a week ago just before leaving
for a week long holiday in Morocco.  Made our trip all the more enjoyable to
know I'd finished.
I've made a bit of lace before but usually just to learn a new technique or
try a new pattern.  I've not made something to be used so I'm excited to
have finished and with plenty of time before the wedding.
Today I took some photos and put them onto webshots.  The garter has not been
pressed and does not yet have a ribbon or the gathering.  I've decided to not
do those things until after I take it back to the States for the wedding in
May.  It will be much easier to fold flat and carry in my bag -hand bag- as
I'm certainly not going to take a chance of having it in my luggage and lost
just before the big day!
I've enjoyed making this garter as once the pattern was established it was
easy to leave for awhile and come back to but after 30 inches I am glad to be
finished and move on to other things.  This will also give me more time to
devote to learning about and making lace with the lace group here in Belgium
without the pressure of thinking I should really finish the garter.   I've not
been able to participate with the group as much as I'd hoped to between social
requirements for DH's job at NATO and non-stop visitors.  The next group
arrives Sat. and we'll have guests through the entire month.  Guess that's
what happens when you live in such a wonderful place!  But I do plan to make
time for making lace despite the guests and acting as tour guide.  Good excuse
to eat out - oh, is it dinnertime? Guess I got involved in my lace and forgot
to prepare something :-)
Thanks again to all who sent their advice and ideas when I first started
inquiring about garters, patterns, threads, and lengths.  I was a bit
concerned that I was biting off more than I could chew with an overseas move
ahead of me plus the other demands of daughters, husbands, weddings and such
but am certainly happy I took the challenge.
Dona in a blustery Belgium where some of the shrubs are beginning to flower.

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[lace] making lace for a historical costume

2007-02-28 Thread Nelleke Glansdorp
Hi allI just uploaded the scans of the piece of lace on webshots. Thanks
to Dona B. for help on how to do 
that.http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003-date
Nelleke Glansdorp



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Re: [lace] making lace for a historical costume

2007-02-28 Thread Barb ETx
Oh Nelleke, this is truly lovely..sort of  Van Dyke style edging.  How 
appropriate. Lovely work...no wonder the costumemaker had a greedy look in 
her eyes..me, too.  Thanks for sharing.


Smiles,
BarbE
Texas USA

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Re: [lace] making lace for a historical costume

2007-02-28 Thread clayblackwell
Hello Nelleke!

Yes, I can see why the costume make had greedy eyes!  That is a beautiful piece 
of lace, and very nicely done.  Thank you for showing it to us!

Clay

in Lynchburg, VA, USA, where I have daffodils in bloom!

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From: Nelleke Glansdorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 Hi allI just uploaded the scans of the piece of lace on webshots. Thanks 
 to Dona B. for help on how to do 
 that.http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003-date 
 Nelleke Glansdorp 

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Re: [lace] making lace for a historical costume

2007-02-28 Thread Pamela Thompson
Nelleke

What a beautiful job. Lovely work. So delicate.
Pam in Ohio
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[lace] making lace for a historical costume


Dear Arachneans Thanks for all
the help on getting the right kind of
pattern for de lace that will go on the
sleeves of Prince Maurits (around
1600). I hereby want to thank everyone who
wrote to me with advice or
helpt me in a different manner. It is finished.
Well within the
timelimits. In a couple of weeks the lace will be on display
in the army
museum in Delft, The Netherlands. Before handing it over to the
costume
maker, I made a scan of the lace. The pattern is an adaptation of a
pattern from the Linnenkast from the OIDFA study group of old Dutch
household linnens. By reducing the size to suit linnen 120/2, it is now a
very
delicate little lace. The costume maker got a flattering, greedy
look in her
eyes and started to talk about how it would look on this
piece of red velvet
she had. And how she could make me a nice period
dress if I provided her with
another 50 centimeters of the same stuff.
Almost a pitty I don't need a period
dress.Is there somewhere I could
sent the picture so that it can be seen?
There will be more pictures, the
costume-maker assured me. Maybe I can
convince my fiancee to teach me how
to make my own photo album, so I will be
able to share those pictures
with you. Greetings from Nelleke Glansdorp in
Leiden, The Netherlands.

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[lace] A quesiton of copyright

2007-02-28 Thread Jenny De Angelis

HI,

I wonder if anyone can help me on the above point.

I have a lave booklet  which is one produced by the lace guild and I know it 
is still in publication.  This was an unwanted gift form a friend a few 
years ago and I am wondering what the position would be if I offer it up for 
a raffle on the list.


I don't think I would be breaking any copyright by raffling the booklet off 
because I am not selling it to make money, nor am I reporducing any part of 
the book in any way.


Would I be OK to offer it for raffle in the circumstances can anyone say?

Thanks
Jenny DeAngelis
Spain. 


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Re: [lace] making lace for a historical costume

2007-02-28 Thread Sue Babbs
Very pretty piece of lace - well done! You worked it very quickly. It seems 
no time at all since you were asking for pattern advice.


Where did you find the pattern in the end?

Sue 


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Re: [lace] A quesiton of copyright

2007-02-28 Thread clayblackwell
Hi Jenny -

As long as you are raffling the original book and not a reproduction of it, 
there is no problem.  You could even sell the book (on eBay or through a used 
book-seller), as long as you were selling the original and not a reproduction.

We've had numerous raffles of books which were duplicates or for some other 
reason not needed in the donor's library - and the recipient is usually 
delighted to have the book (otherwise why would they enter their name in the 
raffle?)

So go for it!  A raffle is always fun!

Clay

-- Original message -- 
From: Jenny De Angelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 HI, 
 
 I wonder if anyone can help me on the above point. 
 
 I have a lave booklet which is one produced by the lace guild and I know it 
 is still in publication. This was an unwanted gift form a friend a few 
 years ago and I am wondering what the position would be if I offer it up for 
 a raffle on the list. 
 
 I don't think I would be breaking any copyright by raffling the booklet off 
 because I am not selling it to make money, nor am I reporducing any part of 
 the book in any way. 
 
 Would I be OK to offer it for raffle in the circumstances can anyone say? 
 
 Thanks 
 Jenny DeAngelis 
 Spain. 
 
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Re: [lace] Finished garter!

2007-02-28 Thread Sue Babbs
May.  It will be much easier to fold flat and carry in my bag -hand bag- 
as
I'm certainly not going to take a chance of having it in my luggage and 
lost

just before the big day!


Congratulations on finishing the lace - another very pretty piece. I'm sure 
it will be much appreciated.


Just one small suggestion: cover a cardboard tube with a clean piece of 
fabric, and wrap the lace round that rather than folding the lace. You don't 
want it to get creased from the journey
Sue (in Illinois) 


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Re: [lace] Bucks point pattern raffle -and the winner is...

2007-02-28 Thread Diane Williams
Beth,
   
  The Bucks pattern arrived in my mail yesterday; thank you so much!  My 
husband gave me a look because he thought I'd been shopping on ebay again :)  
I'm inspired to start something new, especially since my current project is 
winding down.
   
  Thanks again; what a treat!
   
  Diane Williams
  Galena, Illinois USA
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beth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ...Dianne Williams of Illinois.

I have your snail mail address Dianne, so I'll get the pattern into the post 
to you next time I'm passing the post office.

There were 48 entries for this raffle -sorry I only had one copy to give away.

Beth
in Cheshire, UK, where the weather has returned to normal for this winter ie 
damp and drizzly but peculiarly warm for February.

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Re: [lace] A quesiton of copyright

2007-02-28 Thread Jenny De Angelis

Thanks Clay,

I have had a couple of replies telling me it will be OK, as I thought it 
would but didn't want to tread on any toes.


Regards
Jenny
Spain.

 As long as you are raffling the original book and not a reproduction of 
it, there is no problem.  You could even sell the book (on eBay or through a 
used book-seller), as long as you were selling the original and not a 
reproduction.
We've had numerous raffles of books which were duplicates or for some 
other reason not needed in the donor's library - and the recipient is 
usually delighted to have the book (otherwise why would they enter their 
name in the raffle?)

So go for it!  A raffle is always fun!


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[lace] What I'm working on

2007-02-28 Thread Diane Williams
I hope you aren't all tired of this thread...
   
  I've been home sick for two weeks; too sick to knit or make lace!  But just 
before I got sick I created a blog for my projects.  Here is the address,
  http://dianelaces.wordpress.com/
   
  I've been working on a length of Ispwich lace since our virtual lace day in 
April last year.  (Are we going to do that again?)  My pace has slowed down 
considerably in the last two months since I reached the 3-yard mark.  I want to 
put it on a garment, not sure what it will be, and I think 3 yards should be 
enough.  I got some more Ipswich patterns from Karen Thompson and I think I 
will work some samples with the thread left on my bobbins.  
   
  What to do next?  I'm toying with the idea of starting a Polychrome Blonde 
piece, some 's Gravenmoer or the new Bucks pattern I won in Beth's raffle.  I 
might be able to scrounge enough bobbins to start two projects.  I still have a 
small white Ipswich edging on my travel pillow that I thought would be good for 
a convict bonnet.  Has the deadline for that project passed yet?
   
  I've really enjoyed reading about everyone else's projects.  It's inspiring.
   
  Diane


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[lace] lace More photo`s

2007-02-28 Thread Daphne Martin

Hello One and All
 I have uploaded some more photo`s of my designs. If you would like to 
see them just click on the link below.


http://good-times.webshots.com/album/557775699hYUmMQ

Daphne cold windy Norfolk England

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Re: [lace] Finished garter!

2007-02-28 Thread Dona B.
Thanks for that bit of advice, Sue.  Hadn't thought about  it creasing so the
fold wouldn't come out after being pressed.  Do you think that will be a
problem?  I've kept it on a roller as I made it.  I've sewn the garter
together so short of putting it around something quite large- 30- then it
will have a fold of some kind while being transported.  DD decided she didn't
care for the idea of a tied garter, fearing it coming untied sometime during
the day so my plan is to enclose elastic in blue ribbon to run through the
center.  Hopefully if it's folded with padding in between the folds so they
are not hard, all will be okay.
Another arachnean wrote to say while I may have helped Nelleke post her pretty
pictures, I failed to put in the url for mine.  Must be this headcold I'm
trying to beat.
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/557912382dKxLXo
Dona Bushong in Maisieres Belgium
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  To: lace Arachne
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [lace] Finished garter!


   May.  It will be much easier to fold flat and carry in my bag -hand bag-
   as
   I'm certainly not going to take a chance of having it in my luggage and
   lost
   just before the big day!

  Congratulations on finishing the lace - another very pretty piece. I'm sure
  it will be much appreciated.

  Just one small suggestion: cover a cardboard tube with a clean piece of
  fabric, and wrap the lace round that rather than folding the lace. You don't
  want it to get creased from the journey
  Sue (in Illinois)

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[lace] Raffle of unwanted items.

2007-02-28 Thread Jenny De Angelis

Now that my sister has returned home after visiting me last week I have time
to concentrate on running my little raffle.

I have 3 items to raffle and rather than make 3 prizes in one raffle I
thought it better to run 3 raffles, one for each item then everyone
interested in one of the items gets an even chance of being the winner of
just that item. Of course if you want to enter for all 3 items separately
you can do so.

Please put the name of the item you want to enter the raffle for, in the
way I have stated below, in the subject line of your message to me off list
as I am making 3 separate files for each of the items and can sort your
entry into the right file.  If you want to enter for all 3 items then please
send me 3 messages, one for each item.

The items are.

1) Set of 6 Lace Stamps from Spain, the same as have been raffled on other
occasions, they are all still attached to each other and are in good
condition. These were produced in 1989 by the Spanish Post Office, Correos.
I will add a pair of modern day turned Spanish bobbins to these stamps to 
make a

bit more of a prize.  These are fatter bobbins than typical English ones but
they can be used for gimps amongst spangled bobbins, but could be drilled
and spangled too.
Make Subject line Stamps

2) Set of 8 Postcards depicting pieces of  Spanish lace, needle and bobbin,
I can put a note with the cards giving a translation from Catalan to
English of the description of the pieces shown on each card.   These cards
are not brand new, I bought them at the OIDFA conference when it was held in
Barcelona in August 1994.  The backs of the cards are slightly yellowed with
age and one has a small crease in one corner but otherwise they are in good
condition
Make Subject line Post Cards

3) Lace Guild booklet An Introduction to Bucks Point Lace by Jean Leader.
An unwanted Christmas gift from several years ago but it is in mint
condition as I have never used it. I was further on with Bucks Point lace
than the point the booklet goes up to when it was bought for me by a non
Bucks Point lacemaker.
Make Subject line Booklet

The Closing date for all 3 raffles will be Midnight CET, one hour ahead of
GMT, on  the night of Wednesday March 14th, 2 weeks from today. So please 
make sure you enter in time.   I will draw the raffles a day or two after 
that date and

announce the winners names on the list when I will want addresses to post
the prizes to.

Regards
Jenny DeAngelis.
Spain.

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[lace] My new website

2007-02-28 Thread Jean Leader
One of my New Year resolutions was to make this the year when I got 
my own website together - I've been thinking about one for over two 
years but not getting down to it until now.


But it is now up and running at
http://www.jeanleader.co.uk

David designed it and did all the stuff 'under the bonnet/hood' and I 
filled in the content. I will be adding to it as and when I have time 
but I need to get on with other things right now.


Jean in wet, grey Glasgow

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Re: [lace] New Ulrike Voelcker book

2007-02-28 Thread Barbara Joyce
Can anyone tell me about Mechlin Lace? Specifically how does its
construction differ from other point ground laces, such as Bucks, Chantilly
and Tønder? The lace looks to me somewhat like other point ground laces, but
the web site that shows a couple of close-ups pf the new book shows a
pricking that looks different to me from what I'm used to seeing. It almost
looks as though there's ring pair around the flower motifs, reminiscent of
Flanders.

http://www.kloeppelbuch.de/shop/product_info.php?products_id=649SESS=862676
ab696c49640562facd1d08a659

  OR

http://tinyurl.com/28m6p9

Thanks for any information that will help me decide I need this book!

Barbara

Snoqualmie, WA
USA

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Re: [lace] My new website

2007-02-28 Thread micki cameron
Jean I enjoyed seeing your collection and also looking at your various items 
of lace you have made - lovely.


Just thought I would mention that some of the links didn't work for me, I 
use standard internet explorer as a browser, so nothing fancy there.


thanks
Micki
from wet scottish highland

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Subject: [lace] My new website


One of my New Year resolutions was to make this the year when I got my own 
website together - I've been thinking about one for over two years but not 
getting down to it until now.


But it is now up and running at
http://www.jeanleader.co.uk



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RE: [lace] New Ulrike Voelcker book (What kind of lace is Mechlin?)

2007-02-28 Thread Patricia Dowden
Can anyone tell me about Mechlin Lace? Specifically how does its
construction differ from other point ground laces, such as Bucks, Chantilly
and Tønder? The lace looks to me somewhat like other point ground laces, but
the web site that shows a couple of close-ups pf the new book shows a
pricking that looks different to me from what I'm used to seeing. It almost
looks as though there's ring pair around the flower motifs, reminiscent of
Flanders.

http://www.kloeppelbuch.de/shop/product_info.php?products_id=649SESS=862676
ab696c49640562facd1d08a659

  OR

http://tinyurl.com/28m6p9

Thanks for any information that will help me decide I need this book!

Barbara

Snoqualmie, WA
USA



Hi Joyce,

You have a very good eye.  I don't have any scholarly evidence to back me up, 
but my impression is that Mechlin came first and its ground is a plaited ground 
that was often worked without pins!  Mechlin is firmly in the 
Binche-Valenciennes-Flanders continental group of laces.  So having a ring pair 
is not an aberration. 

Point Ground is T T T C pin 
(In spite of being a Cross Twister, I work point ground Twist Cross.)

Mechlin ground, which Ulrike has so kindly put the ground pinholes into, is 
worked in a hexagon, like point ground, but where point ground just has a 
single Cross, Mechlin actually plaits a couple of times.  The only difference 
between Mechlin or Ice ground and Droeschel, an even older ground, is the 
number of stitches in the plait.

A lot of point ground designs are clearly borrowed from Mechlin (Lille, Bucks, 
Beveren, Spanish Ret-Fi (literally fine net) and worked in the simpler 
technique of point ground.  (All things are relative!).

Some of the Czech lace designers have been playing with macro Mechlin ground 
for the last few years.  It has a different flavor and is quite effective.

Patty
Back to work wage slave! In stormy Silicon Valley USA

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Re: [lace-chat] the tall Dutch and conversion factors

2007-02-28 Thread Hazel Smith
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 But
 my husband had it worse -- once I remember him
 coming out of a bathroom
 totally flustered, as the height of the urinal in it
 was too high!
 
I hadn't thought of that problem but asked DH (who's
actually rather below average height) and he said yes
he'd had the same difficulty but that usually there
was a lower urinal provided for kids so he used that.
However in somewhere kids wouldn't be likely to go
this could be a real problem

By the way, folks, no need for too much complicated
maths on these conversions the easy way is that every
10 cms is about 4 inches (Yes, Brenda, I know it's not
exact but it's close enough for everyday purposes). So
at 5ft4 I'm 1m60, 36in wide fabric is 90cms, 4in tiles
are 10cms, and so on - (just don't use it for buying a
bra in mainland Europe cos they size by the underbust
measuremant unlike UK and, I think, USA)



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Re: [lace-chat] the tall Dutch and conversion factors - apology

2007-02-28 Thread Hazel Smith
Apologies to all for not signing my previous post. I
knew there was a reason I was too scared to post all
these years - I'm just too scatty!

Hazel (in Oude Wetering, Netherlands)






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[lace-chat] Re Height.

2007-02-28 Thread Shirley
1 m 71 converts to 5 ft 6 inches

I don't think that is right as I am 5ft 6 in and the Dr says I am 163 cms.
Shirley in Corio Oz.


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[lace-chat] Height

2007-02-28 Thread Jane Partridge
I used to be 5'2 in my teens - by the time I had my first daughter age
28 it was down to 5'1 3/4, and I think I lost another quarter of an inch
by the time I had Hannah at 31! 

The main problems with shopping for me are 

1. When you need something off the top shelf, DH has done a disappearing
act (he's been glued to your side up to that point).

and

2. The magazines I read are always on the top shelf, out of the way (and
I'm talking steam railway magazines, not the usual top shelf ones!). 

I did once point out to the staff of one of the larger chains of
newsagents I was in how ridiculous it was that they put the
pregnancy/mother and baby magazines on the bottom shelf - not exactly
easy to reach in that condition a few weeks later, and they had
moved, to the top shelf! Unfortunately the branch staff can't do much
about it, it is corporate policy that dictates what goes where, and the
powers that be obviously don't think about the logistics from the
shopper's angle, just that the ones they expect to sell more of get easy
to reach position and to h*ll with everyone else!
-- 
Jane Partridge

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Re: [lace-chat] the tall Dutch and conversion factors

2007-02-28 Thread Malvary J Cole

And not only in Holland...

My boyfriend had the same problem at East Croydon railway station.  The 
men's loo was locked and there was only a urinal available.  He then had to 
find someone to unlock the sit-down facility.


We have 10cm of snow forecast for Friday and I always think of that at 4 
inches, not that it is easy to measure the exact depth of snow as it blows 
around quite a bit.


Malvary in Ottawa (who uses East Croydon station frequently when I'm 
visiting England).


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[lace-chat] Visit to Australia

2007-02-28 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti

Lise-Aurore,
Welcome to Oz!!

In Sydney there is the Powerhouse Museum, with a big lace display - and a 
study room, I believe. (Sorry, but I have never been there - Yet!!)  I live 
in Melbourne, about  1000+ km away!
There are lots of Lacemakers in Sydney, with various groups who meet on 
various days.


(Sydney traffic is horrendous, so I am told, with one-way streets - that we 
got caught up in many years ago - and have never been there 
again! :)  )


There is a group at Canberra who meet  on the 4th Sat of the month.

If you can let me know - Off list - when you will be in Canberra, and your 
Sydney dates, I can perhaps put you in touch with the relevant people.


We always love to meet overseas visitors, and I can assure you, you will be 
made Most Welcome.


Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, where it is another warm day!
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[lace-chat] Re:the tall Dutch and conversion factors

2007-02-28 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Feb 28, 2007, at 5:03, Hazel Smith wrote:


By the way, folks, no need for too much complicated
maths on these conversions the easy way is that every
10 cms is about 4 inches (Yes, Brenda, I know it's not
exact but it's close enough for everyday purposes).


I grew up with the metric system, so, for me, the translation goes in 
the opposite direction: every foot is about 30cm (30.5, to be precise 
but, for everyday conversion, it really doesn't matter all that much). 
For practical purposes, a yard is one danged *short* meter :)


I'm struck at how many of us here are 5'2. I used to be 5foot, 2 *and 
a half* inches tall (reason enough to prefer metrics), though have no 
idea what I might be now that I'm in the shrinking mode (though my test 
for bone density, was -- grudgingly -- rated by the doc as very good. 
Grudgingly, because he doesn't approve of people who smoke, drink, shun 
exercise and visit a doctor once every 14 yrs g). I am *very nimble* 
at climbing shelves in stores, to reach the item I want; in some 
stores, the crew knows me and my habits, so, quite often, someone will 
follow me around and offer assistance :)


The answer to high tables and chairs is a footstool to rest your legs 
on, something I learnt only when my son reached his 6th year and 
started playing piano. It's good for circulation, too :)


I never thought the day would come when I'd stop envying men their 
ability to pee standing up behind any odd tree... But, midgety as I may 
be, I've never had any problem with bathrooms :)


--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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