Re: [lace] Puncetto help

2007-10-24 Thread Avital
Hi, all,

Unfortunately I don't have the Anchor Manual of Embroidery! That seems
to be the only English publication with Puncetto lace. I'm really glad
to see that some of you have experience with this kind of needle lace.
I knew Arachne would come through!

OK, here are my questions:

1. In the YouTube video, you can see that in addition to the usual
filled and unfilled squares, there are also diamonds. Are the diamonds
worked from the point, going back and forth and getting wider, then
narrower? Or are they worked along one of the straight edges, back and
forth, like a square?

2. The stitch itself is rather short and wide. So how do they work the
filled squares? Do they work back and forth in rows? Or do they make a
tall stitch and then knots going up the side, the way they do for
separating empty squares?

3. Someone on Flickr told me that she begins her Puncetto with a
3-stitch ladder (worked on a supporting thread wound around the
finger, like in the video) until it's long enough. It looks as though
the lacemaker is calculating the squares at 3 stitches (skip 2, make
the bar on the third stitch). Is this correct?

4. What kind of thread is recommended for Puncetto?

Thanks, everyone!
I even brought my tapestry needle and some perle cotton with me to work. ;-)

Avital

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Re: [lace] California fires OT and evacuation

2007-10-24 Thread Laceandbits
Although it is very off topic and not lace - except that you would need to 
decide how much/if any of your lace/lace equipment came into the essentials 
cetegory - on the flylady website there is a very good page on preparing for 
evacuation.

She suggests things such as keeping all your important documents together in 
one transportable container, having a single CD/DVD with copies of all your 
important photos,  having an emergency food packetc etc; all obvious if you can 
think about it in the cold light of day, but not so obvious when a 
considerable element of stress is included in the equation.  

The other thing that I would never had thought of (living at the top of a 
hill away from flooding areas, which seems to be our greatest UK risk) was that 
you need to practise your evacuation.  That everyone should know where each of 
the to-take items is kept and that you should go around the house pretending 
you are collecting them up, until it can be accomplished in a sensible time 
with as little panic as possible.

Jacquie in Lincolnshire   

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RE: [lace] Puncetto help

2007-10-24 Thread Annette Meldrum
Avital,
We used a number 30 crochet cotton and worked onto the folded edge of a
small piece of fabric while learning.
To make fabric just work stitches close together and on the return row,
stitch in between every stitch. You can work pyramids on an edge by
decreasing a stitch on each side in each row etc. To make holes, you work a
post eg. Across 3 back 3 across 3 then miss 2 stitches by making a larger
stitch across the space. This is really difficult to explain in words
without pictures but work 3 stitches up the loop to make a spoke, throw
across again etc.
Work back and forth without turning your work.

Enough for one virtual lesson?

Annette Meldrum
Australia

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OK, here are my questions:

1. In the YouTube video, you can see that in addition to the usual
filled and unfilled squares, there are also diamonds. Are the diamonds
worked from the point, going back and forth and getting wider, then
narrower? Or are they worked along one of the straight edges, back and
forth, like a square?

2. The stitch itself is rather short and wide. So how do they work the
filled squares? Do they work back and forth in rows? Or do they make a
tall stitch and then knots going up the side, the way they do for
separating empty squares?

3. Someone on Flickr told me that she begins her Puncetto with a
3-stitch ladder (worked on a supporting thread wound around the
finger, like in the video) until it's long enough. It looks as though
the lacemaker is calculating the squares at 3 stitches (skip 2, make
the bar on the third stitch). Is this correct?

4. What kind of thread is recommended for Puncetto?

Thanks, everyone!
I even brought my tapestry needle and some perle cotton with me to work. ;-)

Avital

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Re: [lace] Puncetto help

2007-10-24 Thread Avital
On 10/24/07, Annette Meldrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Avital,
 We used a number 30 crochet cotton and worked onto the folded edge of a
 small piece of fabric while learning.

Thanks! At first I thought the knot was like the Armenian knot, but
now I see that it isn't.

 To make fabric just work stitches close together and on the return row,
 stitch in between every stitch. You can work pyramids on an edge by
 decreasing a stitch on each side in each row etc. To make holes, you work a

Are diamonds worked like inverted pyramids, that is, starting at a
point and increasing? Or are they worked like squares (starting from
one edge and working back and forth), only tilted?

 post eg. Across 3 back 3 across 3 then miss 2 stitches by making a larger
 stitch across the space. This is really difficult to explain in words
 without pictures but work 3 stitches up the loop to make a spoke, throw
 across again etc.
 Work back and forth without turning your work.

How do you build up the webbing beside the large holes? I understand
from the video how to work up the spoke but how do you do the filled
squares? By working back and forth upwards or by doing a vertical
spoke in each stitch?

Thanks very much! I think I'll dig that tapestry needle out of my bag

Avital

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Re: [lace] California fires OT and evacuation

2007-10-24 Thread Scotlace
Very sensible advice in the light of a news item on BBc where a lady said 
they had thought they were prepared but ended up just throwing things into the 
car.  She thought they had one shoe - but didn't qualify that one.

Patricia in Wales   

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[lace] Preference of book format

2007-10-24 Thread Carole Lassak
I'm doing an informal survey and would value your opinions. Would you purchase 
a pattern book on CD if the CD insert showed thumbnail photos of the finished 
lace? If you had the choice of a printed pattern book--let's assume that it is 
not a hardbound volume--or a CD, which would you purchase? If you opted for the 
CD, how would you use it--to print out the entire publication, or only those 
patterns that were of specific interest to you. What would you consider a fair 
price for a pattern book on CD?

Thanks for your responses!! I'll keep track of the responses and offer a 
summary in a couple weeks after folks have had time to respond.

Carole
Dublin, OH USA

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RE: [lace] Preference of book format

2007-10-24 Thread Karen
I would prefer to buy it on CD and only print what I would need to use from
it when I need to use it for various reasons. 
- Space
- Environment
Are the main two.

Karen in Malta

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I'm doing an informal survey and would value your opinions. Would you
purchase a pattern book on CD if the CD insert showed thumbnail photos of
the finished lace? If you had the choice of a printed pattern book--let's
assume that it is not a hardbound volume--or a CD, which would you purchase?
If you opted for the CD, how would you use it--to print out the entire
publication, or only those patterns that were of specific interest to you.
What would you consider a fair price for a pattern book on CD?

Thanks for your responses!! I'll keep track of the responses and offer a
summary in a couple weeks after folks have had time to respond.

Carole
Dublin, OH USA

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[lace] Re: [lace-chat] Preference of book format

2007-10-24 Thread Shere'e
My preference would be for a CD as well. They store much easier than a
large book and I also like the ability to only print off what is
needed directly onto the card stock I use for my prickings.

There is a pattern book on EBay for $7.95 that is simply an emailed
file. I would expect a CD to run a bit more but if it was over $20 US
I would want the ability to see the patterns before purchasing it to
decide if it has anything I would use frequently enough to make the
cost worth it to me.

Shere'e
Seattle, WA USA
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Re: [lace] Preference of book format

2007-10-24 Thread C Johnson
Hi Carol

I would purchase a pattern book on a CD.

I would expect to see the pattern, a pricking and hints for working.

How much to pay would depend on how many patterns I am getting on the CD and 
how detailed the instructions are.
EX:  If I am just getting prickings with no instructions, I should pay 
less.
Several patterns handled with prickings, sample workings, and a working 
description for each pattern may mean the cost would be higher, much like we 
see in the paper media.

Susie Johnson
Website: http://home.comcast.net/~cjohnson0969/
Morris Illinois
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  I'm doing an informal survey and would value your opinions. Would you 
purchase a pattern book on CD if the CD insert showed thumbnail photos of 
the finished lace? If you had the choice of a printed pattern book--let's 
assume that it is not a hardbound volume--or a CD, which would you purchase? 
If you opted for the CD, how would you use it--to print out the entire 
publication, or only those patterns that were of specific interest to you. 
What would you consider a fair price for a pattern book on CD?

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[lace] RE: [lace-chat] Preference of book format

2007-10-24 Thread Sue
I would plump for a book every time because sometimes I don't want to
make anything but just to sit and browse through my lace books to decide
what to do next and I do not think I would get the same pleasure with
cd's

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK

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Re: [lace] Re: [lace-chat] Preference of book format

2007-10-24 Thread clayblackwell
I don't know which eBay offering you're referring to, but I would really like 
to take this opportunity to advise all Arachnids that in the not-too-distant 
past, the Professor's website at the University of Arizona was easily 
accessible to all.  No one ever imagined that people interested in weaving and 
lacemaking would steal the work of others and sell it to others.

However, there is good evidence that during that time, a number of people 
downloaded many files and compiled them into disks of books about weaving, 
lacemaking, and in some cases, a combination of the two.  These offerings on 
eBay are almost certainly illegal downloads from the work of the Professor, and 
the work of Tess Parrish who scanned most of the lace documents involved. 

The website now requires registration in order to download for your own use, 
but this helps prevent the wholesale download of the entire library.  CDs are 
available for LESS than the eBay selling price when you consider the quantity 
(and quality) of the information you get on your legal CD.  

So I fervently ask all lacemakers to avoid the offerings on eBay, and instead 
to support the work which was begun by Professor Ralph Griswald, with the 
assistance of Tess Parrish, and which is ongoing under the careful webmastery 
of Professor Griswald's successor (whose name escapes me... I am so sorry!).

Sincerely,

Clay
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Lynchburg, VA USA 


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 My preference would be for a CD as well. They store much easier than a 
 large book and I also like the ability to only print off what is 
 needed directly onto the card stock I use for my prickings. 
 
 There is a pattern book on EBay for $7.95 that is simply an emailed 
 file. I would expect a CD to run a bit more but if it was over $20 US 
 I would want the ability to see the patterns before purchasing it to 
 decide if it has anything I would use frequently enough to make the 
 cost worth it to me. 
 
 Shere'e 
 Seattle, WA USA 
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[lace] Preference of book format

2007-10-24 Thread Margot Walker
I really, really, really dislike 'reading' a book on the computer.   
So I rarely buy CDs, since I have to print them out and the cost of  
ink is more than buying a softcover book!  For me to buy a CD, the  
patterns would have to be spectacularly spectacular.


On 24 Oct 2007, at 18:09, Carole Lassak wrote:

I'm doing an informal survey and would value your opinions. Would  
you purchase a pattern book on CD if the CD insert showed thumbnail  
photos of the finished lace? If you had the choice of a printed  
pattern book--let's assume that it is not a hardbound volume--or a  
CD, which would you purchase? If you opted for the CD, how would  
you use it--to print out the entire publication, or only those  
patterns that were of specific interest to you. What would you  
consider a fair price for a pattern book on CD?


Thanks for your responses!! I'll keep track of the responses and  
offer a summary in a couple weeks after folks have had time to  
respond.


Carole
Dublin, OH USA

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Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada
Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site:
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot

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Re: [lace] RE: [lace-chat] Preference of book format

2007-10-24 Thread clayblackwell
Hello Sue - and Carol!!

I am totally in Sue's court on this one!  I savor my books.  I love to take 
them to bed for a read or a look-through.  My eyes get tired much quicker when 
I'm reading off a screen than reading a book, and I don't enjoy reading a book 
on my computer.

However  having said THAT...  I think that there is a tremendous market for 
a combination of the two!!  Without thumbing through my books, I know that 
there are a few already out which do this.  (Anny Noben-Slegers' Bevern folio 
comes to mind).  

The ideal, in my opinion, is a folio which would give, in printed form, a 
booklet with information about the lace which is the topic of the book.  
Suggested information includes history (if applicable), notes regarding color 
code for the diagrams, index, bibliography,.  AND  clear pictures of 
the projects presented in the folio.  The CD would contain full-color 
(printable) diagrams, prickings (a variety of scales for each project would be 
a bonus if alternate threads were indicated!!), and close-up diagrams for 
tricky sections, with additional explanations.  

Not asking for much!!  ; )

Clay

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 I would plump for a book every time because sometimes I don't want to 
 make anything but just to sit and browse through my lace books to decide 
 what to do next and I do not think I would get the same pleasure with 
 cd's 
 
 Sue M Harvey 
 Norfolk UK 
 
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[lace] Emergencies

2007-10-24 Thread Jane Viking Swanson
Hi All,  www.flylady.net has a list of 11 points of preparedness for any
time you need to evacuate your house.  It's quite thorough.  I hope none of
us have to do that!

Sorry to send this to both lists but it's got good information.  I just saw
that Jacqui sent FLYlady's name but I will send this along with the URL.

Jane in Vermont, USA where we had warm rain today.
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Re: [lace] RE: [lace-chat] Preference of book format

2007-10-24 Thread Beth Mccasland
Another thought on what Clay wrote.  How many of you remember 5 inch
floppies, or 3.5 inch disks?  My point is, we don't really know how long
the CD technology will last, and as computers seem to konk out after only
about 5 years, will your new machine be able to read the old format, or
open the disks.  So I vote for books, or at least as Clay suggests, a
pamphlet/booklet with reference information, then you can go to the CD for
complete details, and print what you want.  I'm another one that prefers to
read something printed on paper.  Or rather, I have difficulty reading long
things on a computer monitor.  Call me old fashioned, or a relic!

Beth McCasland 
Metairie, Louisiana


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 Hello Sue - and Carol!!

 I am totally in Sue's court on this one!  I savor my books.  I love to
take them to bed for a read or a look-through.  My eyes get tired much
quicker when I'm reading off a screen than reading a book, and I don't
enjoy reading a book on my computer.

 However  having said THAT...  I think that there is a tremendous
market for a combination of the two!!  Without thumbing through my books, I
know that there are a few already out which do this.  (Anny Noben-Slegers'
Bevern folio comes to mind).  

 The ideal, in my opinion, is a folio which would give, in printed form, a
booklet with information about the lace which is the topic of the book. 
Suggested information includes history (if applicable), notes regarding
color code for the diagrams, index, bibliography,.  AND  clear
pictures of the projects presented in the folio.  The CD would contain
full-color (printable) diagrams, prickings (a variety of scales for each
project would be a bonus if alternate threads were indicated!!), and
close-up diagrams for tricky sections, with additional explanations.  

 Not asking for much!!  ; )

 Clay

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 Lynchburg, VA USA 

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[lace] Re: Preference of book format

2007-10-24 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Oct 24, 2007, at 17:09, Carole Lassak wrote:

I'm doing an informal survey and would value your opinions. Would you 
purchase a pattern book on CD if the CD insert showed thumbnail photos 
of the finished lace?


Probably not, though thumbnail photos might make a difference.

If you had the choice of a printed pattern book--let's assume that it 
is not a hardbound volume--or a CD, which would you purchase?


A book, most definitely. I can read it -- with a flashlight or a candle 
-- even if the electricity goes out. And I can snuggle with it in bed, 
in full comfort. I already spend a lot of time sitting -- either at the 
pillow or at the 'puter -- and, since my backbone has never been in a 
great shape (due to childhood scoliosis), it objects, sometimes quite 
painfully. As do my eyes.


Like several others who'd responded, I get pattern books not so much 
because I plan to work the patterns, but to relax with, to glean some 
new techniques from the diagrams (oh, so *that* is how she's done it!) 
and to stimulate new ideas (if I were to move this there...) The 
computer screen doesn't offer me the same options.


If you opted for the CD, how would you use it--to print out the entire 
publication, or only those patterns that were of specific interest to 
you.


I probably shouldn't be answering this part, since I've already said 
I'd be unlikely to opt for for a CD over a book format but... I'd 
probably print out the whole shebang, because my tastes change over 
time and -- like Beth -- I might be worried that I'd be unable to print 
out the rest later on (always supposing I still remembered there was 
something else there). And, of course, a book printed out at home 
uses twice as much paper (it's usually, printed out on one side only) 
and is hard to manage, unless you invest in having it bound somehow. By 
the time you do, it'll cost more than buying a printed and bound book; 
you don't get a discount on binding a single copy.


I hate the electronic equipment which, nowadays, always comes with a 
manual on a CD. My -- otherwise beloved -- HP Color Laser Jet 
multi-function came that way. I printed out ca 200 pages of it (table 
of contents and, based on those, the pages which were most likely to be 
needed, like changing an ink cartridge) and hope it'll be enough until 
the machine dies. But, it's *not* convenient...


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Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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Re: [lace] What's going on in Brazil?

2007-10-24 Thread Joy Beeson

On 10/22/07 10:39 AM, Aurelia Loveman wrote:


Two by-the-ways:  1) Although the geographic place is
certainly spelled Tenerife (with one f), the needlework
is properly spelled Teneriffe with two f's. Don't ask
me why.


English spelling was very ad hoc in the eighteenth century
(and, presumably, earlier); you'd find several different
spellings of the same word in a single document written all
at one sitting.  It's not surprising that people talking
about the place and people talking about the lace would
choose different spellings when consistency came into style.

It's lucky that it is that way:  people in Tenerife can make
any kind of lace, and people anywhere can make Teneriffe
Lace, so it's nice to have even a small clue when discussing
Tenerife tatting or California Teneriffe.

It would be nice to take the capital off teneriffe, too -- 
we don't capitalize Tatting.


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Joy Beeson
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http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/
http://n3f.home.comcast.net/ -- Writers' Exchange
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[lace] Fw: Book or CD?

2007-10-24 Thread Christine Johnson
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 Hi Carole,
 I will buy a book every time. I look at a lot more patterns than I use and
 it's so much easier to just go and get the book off the shelf. I know
 postage is making CD's much more attractive, but I suspect most people (me
 included) will forget that the cost of printing is minor compared to the
 creative effort of designing the patterns and working the samples and be
 relatively mean about what they will pay for a CD.
 Christine Johnson (Sydney, Australia)
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[lace-chat] Ellen Byerrum

2007-10-24 Thread Jean Nathan
Jane, glad you liked them. I've read all 5 that are availabe in paperback, 
and must say that I enjoyed them even better than Monica Ferris.


I, like you, would love to get into her trunk full of 40s patterns, but I 
particularly liked the fashion bites at the end of the chapters. Lots of 
humour and good sense which applies no matter what your age.


Looking forward to the next one.

Jean in Poole. 


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[lace-chat] Preference of book format

2007-10-24 Thread Carole Lassak
I'm doing an informal survey and would value your opinions. Would you purchase 
a pattern book on CD if the CD insert showed thumbnail photos of the finished 
lace? If you had the choice of a printed pattern book--let's assume that it is 
not a hardbound volume--or a CD, which would you purchase? If you opted for the 
CD, how would you use it--to print out the entire publication, or only those 
patterns that were of specific interest to you. What would you consider a fair 
price for a pattern book on CD?

Thanks for your responses!! I'll keep track of the responses and offer a 
summary in a couple weeks after folks have had time to respond.

Carole
Dublin, OH USA

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[lace-chat] RE: [lace] Preference of book format

2007-10-24 Thread Karen
I would prefer to buy it on CD and only print what I would need to use from
it when I need to use it for various reasons. 
- Space
- Environment
Are the main two.

Karen in Malta

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Subject: [!! SPAM] [lace] Preference of book format

I'm doing an informal survey and would value your opinions. Would you
purchase a pattern book on CD if the CD insert showed thumbnail photos of
the finished lace? If you had the choice of a printed pattern book--let's
assume that it is not a hardbound volume--or a CD, which would you purchase?
If you opted for the CD, how would you use it--to print out the entire
publication, or only those patterns that were of specific interest to you.
What would you consider a fair price for a pattern book on CD?

Thanks for your responses!! I'll keep track of the responses and offer a
summary in a couple weeks after folks have had time to respond.

Carole
Dublin, OH USA

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[lace-chat] RE: [lace] California fires OT and evacuation

2007-10-24 Thread Sue
Have now moved my correspondence to chat - All the very sensible replies
that I have had to my query as to what you would take in an evacuation
has seriously made me think about all the important documents, deeds,
insurance etc and to get them all together where they are easily
accesible, although we would never have bush fires and as I live on high
ground would probably never get flooded we are as likely as anybody to
have a household fire, so it is on high priority list to do a.s.a.p.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK

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Re: [lace-chat] Preference of book format

2007-10-24 Thread Shere'e
My preference would be for a CD as well. They store much easier than a
large book and I also like the ability to only print off what is
needed directly onto the card stock I use for my prickings.

There is a pattern book on EBay for $7.95 that is simply an emailed
file. I would expect a CD to run a bit more but if it was over $20 US
I would want the ability to see the patterns before purchasing it to
decide if it has anything I would use frequently enough to make the
cost worth it to me.

Shere'e
Seattle, WA USA
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Re: [lace] Re: [lace-chat] Preference of book format

2007-10-24 Thread clayblackwell
I don't know which eBay offering you're referring to, but I would really like 
to take this opportunity to advise all Arachnids that in the not-too-distant 
past, the Professor's website at the University of Arizona was easily 
accessible to all.  No one ever imagined that people interested in weaving and 
lacemaking would steal the work of others and sell it to others.

However, there is good evidence that during that time, a number of people 
downloaded many files and compiled them into disks of books about weaving, 
lacemaking, and in some cases, a combination of the two.  These offerings on 
eBay are almost certainly illegal downloads from the work of the Professor, and 
the work of Tess Parrish who scanned most of the lace documents involved. 

The website now requires registration in order to download for your own use, 
but this helps prevent the wholesale download of the entire library.  CDs are 
available for LESS than the eBay selling price when you consider the quantity 
(and quality) of the information you get on your legal CD.  

So I fervently ask all lacemakers to avoid the offerings on eBay, and instead 
to support the work which was begun by Professor Ralph Griswald, with the 
assistance of Tess Parrish, and which is ongoing under the careful webmastery 
of Professor Griswald's successor (whose name escapes me... I am so sorry!).

Sincerely,

Clay
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Lynchburg, VA USA 


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From: Shere'e [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 My preference would be for a CD as well. They store much easier than a 
 large book and I also like the ability to only print off what is 
 needed directly onto the card stock I use for my prickings. 
 
 There is a pattern book on EBay for $7.95 that is simply an emailed 
 file. I would expect a CD to run a bit more but if it was over $20 US 
 I would want the ability to see the patterns before purchasing it to 
 decide if it has anything I would use frequently enough to make the 
 cost worth it to me. 
 
 Shere'e 
 Seattle, WA USA 
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 www.webeweddings.com 
 Unique Weddings for Unique Couples 
 
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Re: [lace] RE: [lace-chat] Preference of book format

2007-10-24 Thread clayblackwell
Hello Sue - and Carol!!

I am totally in Sue's court on this one!  I savor my books.  I love to take 
them to bed for a read or a look-through.  My eyes get tired much quicker when 
I'm reading off a screen than reading a book, and I don't enjoy reading a book 
on my computer.

However  having said THAT...  I think that there is a tremendous market for 
a combination of the two!!  Without thumbing through my books, I know that 
there are a few already out which do this.  (Anny Noben-Slegers' Bevern folio 
comes to mind).  

The ideal, in my opinion, is a folio which would give, in printed form, a 
booklet with information about the lace which is the topic of the book.  
Suggested information includes history (if applicable), notes regarding color 
code for the diagrams, index, bibliography,.  AND  clear pictures of 
the projects presented in the folio.  The CD would contain full-color 
(printable) diagrams, prickings (a variety of scales for each project would be 
a bonus if alternate threads were indicated!!), and close-up diagrams for 
tricky sections, with additional explanations.  

Not asking for much!!  ; )

Clay

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Lynchburg, VA USA 


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 I would plump for a book every time because sometimes I don't want to 
 make anything but just to sit and browse through my lace books to decide 
 what to do next and I do not think I would get the same pleasure with 
 cd's 
 
 Sue M Harvey 
 Norfolk UK 
 
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[lace-chat] Emergencies

2007-10-24 Thread Jane Viking Swanson
Hi All,  www.flylady.net has a list of 11 points of preparedness for any
time you need to evacuate your house.  It's quite thorough.  I hope none of
us have to do that!

Sorry to send this to both lists but it's got good information.  I just saw
that Jacqui sent FLYlady's name but I will send this along with the URL.

Jane in Vermont, USA where we had warm rain today.
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[lace-chat] Re: evacuation

2007-10-24 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Oct 24, 2007, at 17:17, Sue Harvey wrote:


has seriously made me think about all the important documents, deeds,
insurance etc and to get them all together where they are easily
accesible,


All our -- important but small -- documents (birth certificates, 
marriage certificates, my naturalization certificate, passports etc) 
are in a bank's lockbox. Well worth the price, since the bank's vaults 
are much better protected than anything we could provide at home. Also, 
banks' assets are the first, sometimes only ones, to be rescued (the 
root of the animosity betwen Mayor Giuliani and the NYC fire dept, post 
9/11)


For the rest... Just about everything is much beyond trying to rescue, 
even if we could decide what's most important (we both love books and 
the house is lined and littered with them). Like Sue, I'm neither in a 
flood plain nor in an area prone to wildfires. So, I'm very, very 
careful to make sure that every cigarette I smoke is fully extinguished 
:)


Though, a near fire we once had was not started by my smoking, but by 
our (then) 5yr old... Who made himself a reading nest on the top bunk 
bed, in storage in the basement (TV room). He nailed to the wall a wool 
blanket, which made a kind of tent around him and his pillows. From 
there, he could peek out at what his father was watching on TV but 
could also shut himself off and read, if it was of no interest to him. 
His reading light was a naked bulb. Which touched the blanket, 
sometimes. And which he forgot to turn off one evening... The next 
morning, as we descended from the top floor to the ground one, we were 
met by clouds of smoke coming up the staircase from the basement... 
Really scary, since, at the time, I was still into miniatures 
(dollhouse) and my workshop -- full of combustible and potentially 
explosive -- stuff was down there too...


Only the TV room ended up being a total loss (some becauuse things 
burnt, some because of the water), but we've been very, very careful 
about turning off the lights since, too :)


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Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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[lace-chat] :) Fwd: blonde joke

2007-10-24 Thread Tamara P Duvall
I can't decide whether it's a good thing or a bad thing that my memory 
is like a rusty sieve... I think I may have seen this one before, but 
I'm not sure.



From: R.P.


Two tourists were driving through Wisconsin. As they were approaching
Oconomowoc, they started arguing about the pronunciation of the
town's name. They argued back and forth until they stopped for lunch. As
they stood at the counter, one of the tourists asked the blonde 
employee,

Before we order, could you please settle an argument for us?  Would
you please pronounce where we are--very slowly?

The blonde girl leaned over the counter and said, 
Bur,gerrr, kng


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Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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[lace-chat] California fires OT and evacuation

2007-10-24 Thread Joy Beeson

Moved from Lace:

On 10/24/07 4:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


She suggests things such as keeping all your important
documents together in one transportable container, having
a single CD/DVD with copies of all your important photos,
having an emergency food packetc etc; all obvious if you
can think about it in the cold light of day, but not so
obvious when a considerable element of stress is included
in the equation.  


But the contents of that CD should *already* be in a remote
location.  Anything that easy to copy should have back-ups.

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http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/
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west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A.

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