[lace] Use of aficot and laying instructions

[Janis Savage]

Dear Jeri
Thank you so much for your information on the use of an aficot and the 
reasoning behind laying threads. I had heard about these things before but 
you explained it all so beautifully that I now understand why it is done. I 
intend to print it out and keep it with my embroidery things.

Thank you from
Janis Savage
lacem...@mweb.co.za
in Honeydew, South Africa
where I am just recovering from a total hip transplant and once I can sitt 
comfortably again, I inten to use my recovery time finishing some of those 
UFOs.


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[lace] Tallies

[Elizabeth Ligeti]

Bev said "I still need to work on picot-edged tallies "

Please explain these tallies - they sound Intriguing!!   I tend to get
unwanted "picots" sometimes (just loose loops on the sides!) - but a bit of
back-tracking, and I can then tension them up properly!!!

But to deliberately make picots along the sides - Now that is 'something'!!!

Please, Bev, - elaborate!
Regards from Liz in Melbourne
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[lace] What is an afficot?

[Elizabeth Ligeti]

Pene, an aficot is a tool that is used to smooth out and 'polish' lace, - as
far as I know.

www.guildofneedlelaces.org  may have one on show in their For Sale section.
They say (in the magazine, where there is a photo of one) it is "a tool
originally devised from a lobster claw used to lay and burnish threads. "
These days they are usually made from polished wood, but I have heard of
people using the back of a spoon which works just as well, apparently!!
I have a nice polished wood one - but don't use it, much. Hmm! I Must use it
more, I think. I got it for my needlelace, but I suppose it can be used on
bobbin lace, too.

It has a bulbous part that sits in the hand, and a curved part leading to a
point. The curved part would be used to burnish the threads, and the point
would be used to make the threads lay straight.

Regards from Liz in very windy Melbourne, Oz.
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[lace] Re: making a leaf tally (now saving videos)

[Susan Reishus]

I should have said DVD to burn to (not CD), and forgot to mention that the
idea would be that one can play it on their television, if easier and where
you are doing your bobbin lace, but will also play on a computer and other
applications.  It could even be played for audio via a CD player in your CD
player or car. 
They typically say the life for DVD/CD's is 6 years, but liability purposes
restrict the timing, but most feel they last longer.  (They also give the life
of video tapes as 10 years, but I am certain we all have some much older than
that, that are still good and working copies).
HTH,Susan Reishus
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 07:45:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Susan Reishus 
Subject: Re: [lace] making a leaf tally

I "believe" that one should be able to burn a CD from their saved video,
which
would give you about 6 years (or more) of safe storage, and last longer than
most PC's and some Macs.

The steps I dare not go into, as I dance between computers and often hesitate
at the differing steps, but am certain others have quick access from their
frontal lobes for most applications.  

Best,Susan Reishus

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[lace] aficot & afficot??

[hottleco]

Does this mean that we have two highly similar French words that refer to 2 
completely different tools used in the field of threads/fibers/textiles!?!  Who 
knew?  Susan, in Erie, thinking about serving tomayto aspic with a tomahto 
aspic server ;-)  

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Re: [lace] What is an aficot? Controlling quality of stitching.

[Jeriames]

In answer to Janice, Pene, and all others seeking "perfection",
 
I have been embroidering over 60 years, and spent $thousands$ learning many 
 tricks.  In the case of needlelace (considered to be both a lace and  an 
embroidery) and the aficot tool, think of it being used in lace not to  press 
- but to polish or emboss threads that lay side-by-side so that they  
almost merge -- they then look like one continuous piece of narrow  shiny 
fabric. 
 Polish in the direction of the threads.  This  was done in the old 
Venetian laces, where parts are padded with threads, and  then closely stitched 
over (like satin stitch) to hold in place.  It  is also sometimes used in white 
embroidered work with the same sort of  padded stitches.  The aficot must 
be very smooth, without  any bumps or cracks to snag threads.
 
I don't think of an aficot as being best as a laying tool.  A  laying tool 
is used in embroidery to control two or more threads in a  needle on the 
down stroke, so they will not twist over each other. You  use it to gently 
stroke the threads and encourage the threads to lay  side-by-side, and then as 
the needle plunges and the threads above the work get  shorter, you slowly 
slide the tool away.  Right-handed embroiderers  would hold a laying tool with 
the left hand, while stitching with the  right.  Of course, this requires 
the work to be mounted on a stretcher that  is clamped to or rested on a 
table or other surface, with the area being  stitched pulled over your lap for 
ease of stitching movement.  This is  what you see in professional embroidery 
workshops.  
 
Since so many people today object to stitching whilst sitting in a  
straight chair at a table, I doubt many will use this method.  However, I  
assure 
you that if you stitch for many hours it is best to sit on a  straight-back 
chair at a table where you can use both sets of fingers to control  stitches. 
 This is what Chinese silk embroiderers have been doing  many hours a day - 
for centuries. 
 
A laying tool is mostly used to control straight stitches that lay  next to 
each other, as in satin stitch.  It makes the surface look so  lovely when 
light travels across it.  You can use something  as simple as a large 
darning needle with blunt point, or a plastic collar stay  from a man's shirt.  
If 
you want to spend money, you can buy laying  tools just for the purpose.  
Friends joke about me, because I have done  whole large pieces of cross 
stitch by laying the threads.  Again,  a very lovely untwisted overall effect 
that is the mark of professional  stitching.  You should be able to look up or 
down the diagonal of cross  stitching and see what I mean.
 
If you are instructed to add metallic with floss in the needle,  it does 
not work well.  It is best to do the whole bit with floss first,  and then 
stitch the metallic highlights in a separate "trip".  This is  because it is 
nearly impossible to lay the two different materials in one  "journey" so it 
looks good to a critical eye.  Metallic is slippery, and is  best tied into 
the eye of the needle.  (How, requires another set of  instructions!)
 
Another trick with more than one thread in the needle is to bring the  
needle up, then down, with the needle's eye facing in the direction you want 
the 
 stitch to lay.  This helps to stop multiple threads from twisting at  the 
fabric entrance points in both up and down directions.  Try  it!!!  Magic!!! 
 I found this tip in the books of only one  teacher/author.
 
Embroidery is like lace, in that you can proudly say that you learned from  
a book, but I can assure you that having an experienced teacher at the  
ready when you are learning is what develops best habits for success.
 
Most important?  Wash your hands!!  
 
Jeri Ames in  Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center  

 
In a message dated 9/10/2009 4:56:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jbl...@sbcglobal.net writes:

Clay  wrote:

Pene, if you have Gertrude Whiting's book, "Old-Time Tools &  Toys of 
Needlework", you'll see an aficot pictured on page 328.  It  is a 
pressing tool, but also a laying tool in embroidery.  The  pointed end 
could be used for laying, and the rounded end used to press  creases.  It 
does rather resemble a lobster claw...  with the  hinged part removed. 

Being new to needle lace, what do you mean by  "laying", and what creases
would you need to press?
Janice

Janice  Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois,  USA
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[lace] Humped tallies?

[Debora Lustgarten]

wow, that sparked my curiosity!
Ae there pictures of a humped tally anywhere on the web?  How do you make them?
...and, of course, my nasty and very earthy nature started going on 
all sorts of off-colour tangents... ;-)


Debora L.

At 05:08 PM 10/09/2009, you wrote:

Don't forget humped tallies which were traditional in old beds and went out
of vogue.  Most people now do rolled tallies, but they're slower to make and
humped ones are faster - an important thing if you're making lace by the
yard for sale and a living.

Humped tallies shouldn't be confused with overlayed/flat overlayed tallies.

Helen, in lovely sunny Duvall, WA

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Re: [lace] What is an afficot?

[Janice Blair]

Clay wrote:

Pene, if you have Gertrude Whiting's book, "Old-Time Tools & Toys of 
Needlework", you'll see an aficot pictured on page 328.  It is a 
pressing tool, but also a laying tool in embroidery.  The pointed end 
could be used for laying, and the rounded end used to press creases.  It 
does rather resemble a lobster claw...  with the hinged part removed. 

Being new to needle lace, what do you mean my "laying", and what creases
would you need to press?
Janice

 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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[lace] saving a video to a Mac

[tess parrish]

Thanks to Margot for looking up the directions for saving a video to a  
Mac if you have Safari.  Open the video (in this case it was Jean's  
video, but it worked with the YouTube one as well), go to File and  
click on Save As, tell it where you want it to go, and there it is!


Now for David's...and anyone else?

Also, I really liked Susan's idea of putting it on a portable little  
flash drive.


Thanks to Arachne, one and all.

Tess (tess1...@aol.com) in cooling-off Maine USA.

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RE: [lace] OT question (about my first name/Joker)

[J. Falkink]

> In game shows, the expression "play the joker" is used in the 
> way you describe.

Thanks, I gueas that is what I was looking for, sorry for the detour.
Jo

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Re: [lace] OT question (about my first name/Joker)

[Liz Thackray]

In game shows, the expression "play the joker" is used in the way you  
describe.  I don't know if the expression is used in any card games.


The other connotation of Joker is as one of Batman's adversaries.

Liz


On 10 Sep 2009, at 20:27, J. Falkink wrote:

I'm more looking especially for something like betting on the joker,  
or put
the joker into play. A dutch expression also used to double you  
points in a

tele-quiz.

Jo


-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: bev walker [mailto:walker.b...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: donderdag 10 september 2009 19:12
Aan: J. Falkink
CC: lace@arachne.com
Onderwerp: Re: [lace] OT question (about my first name/Joker)

You might like "The joker is wild."  In cards, a wild card is
one that can have any value.

I believe your name is pronounced with the 'e' - in English
'yo-key' (or do you pronounce the 'j' as a soft g sound).

Lace content: we have 'wild lace' too, a chaotic but organized style.



On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:00 AM, J. Falkink
 wrote:


Dear spiders

On English list I usually sign with Jo, but my full
first name is Joke (the
Dutch female version of Johny). I'm looking for
expressions with the joker
in a deck of cards.

Jo

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west coast of Canada




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RE: [lace] OT question (about my first name/Joker)

[J. Falkink]

I'm more looking especially for something like betting on the joker, or put
the joker into play. A dutch expression also used to double you points in a
tele-quiz. 

Jo

> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: bev walker [mailto:walker.b...@gmail.com] 
> Verzonden: donderdag 10 september 2009 19:12
> Aan: J. Falkink
> CC: lace@arachne.com
> Onderwerp: Re: [lace] OT question (about my first name/Joker)
> 
> You might like "The joker is wild."  In cards, a wild card is 
> one that can have any value. 
> 
> I believe your name is pronounced with the 'e' - in English 
> 'yo-key' (or do you pronounce the 'j' as a soft g sound).
> 
> Lace content: we have 'wild lace' too, a chaotic but organized style.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:00 AM, J. Falkink 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>   Dear spiders
>   
>   On English list I usually sign with Jo, but my full 
> first name is Joke (the
>   Dutch female version of Johny). I'm looking for 
> expressions with the joker
>   in a deck of cards.
>   
>   Jo
>   
>   -
> 
> 
> --
> Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, 
> west coast of Canada
> 
> 

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Re: [lace] making a leaf tally

[Janice Blair]

Alice wrote:

  

I think I have seen and tried 4 methods.

Anny Noben Slieger showed me this method in 2008 of holding the two bobbins, 
but I found that when working on my Binche, I was in a very cramped area 
working long tallies and had trouble holding onto the bobbins, so I reverted 
back to the Springett way of holding the 3 passives on the pillow and weaving 
with a longer worker.  I used to do them the Cook Russian method, holding 3 
bobbins between my fingers and weaving with the other bobbin. This worked well 
until I learnt the Springett way.  I did try doing the ttc method on the pillow 
but always lost my worker and ended up with a plait :-)  I guess there must be 
a method holding them fingers up on a bolster pillow but have not seen that 
demonstrated.  I wonder what the other 3 tally methods are unless they are 
referring to squares, rolled, long, crescent or tallies with picots, in which 
case there are even more than 8.

Janice

 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
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[lace] Afficot Raffle

[Margot Walker]

I just got home from buying 2 live lobsters for dinner tonight and  
was reading all the emails about afficots.  Since I will have 4  
lobster claws available, I thought I'd raffle off the pincers.  (The  
large part of the claw can also be used as an afficot, but mine will  
be broken to get the meat out.)  So if you'd like one, send me your  
name and address and I'll pull 4 names out of a hat on Sept. 25 and  
send them off - surface mail.  There shouldn't be any problem with  
entry into another country since they will have been boiled and  
bleached.


Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada
Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site:
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot

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Re: [lace] OT question (about my first name/Joker)

[bev walker]

You might like "The joker is wild."  In cards, a wild card is one that can
have any value.

I believe your name is pronounced with the 'e' - in English 'yo-key' (or do
you pronounce the 'j' as a soft g sound).

Lace content: we have 'wild lace' too, a chaotic but organized style.


On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:00 AM, J. Falkink  wrote:

> Dear spiders
>
> On English list I usually sign with Jo, but my full first name is Joke (the
> Dutch female version of Johny). I'm looking for expressions with the joker
> in a deck of cards.
>
> Jo
>
> -


-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
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[lace] OT question (about my first name/Joker)

[J. Falkink]

Dear spiders

On English list I usually sign with Jo, but my full first name is Joke (the
Dutch female version of Johny). I'm looking for expressions with the joker
in a deck of cards. 

Jo

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[lace] Lace / supply stores in Paris?

[Debora Lustgarten]

Dear Arachnes,
June Wong, a friend of mine who some of you may know, is travelling 
to Paris for a week this fall, and she'd like to know the address of 
any good lace or lace supplies store in the city.
She tends to go on very tight-scheduled trips, so the best would be 
stores or places in the central areas of Paris.
Since her computer connection is not that good, I offered to ask on 
her behalf. I know basic French, so if you have website links, those 
are also good.

Many thanks in advance for your replies!
Debora Lustgarten
Toronto, Canada

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Re: [lace] What is an afficot?

[bev walker]

To add to the excellent links already: I went to our list archives, found
further info.
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=afficot&l=lace%40arachne.com

And yes I think your pronunciation is correct.
:)

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:55 AM, pene piip  wrote:

>
> So, is it a French word pronounced like "picot" & not like "apricot"?
> I also googled the word & came up with 2 references on the Arachne
> Archive when in Jan. 2007 a real lobster claw was raffled.
>
>

-- 
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Re: [lace] afficot & saving files

[Avital]

A portable flash drive is handy for carrying files around but not
recommended for long-term storage because they're too fragile. If you
step on one, it's gone. Really important files should be backed up on
something sturdier, like an external hard drive or an on-line service
like www.carbonite.com. Large hard drives  are not very expensive
these days. I keep one in a shoebox and once a month I back up my
files using Syncback, a free program. OTOH, if I want to take some
files to work or to someone else's computer, a flash drive is a great
gadget. My flash drive and card reader (for camera card) go everywhere
with me.

Avital


On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:24 PM,   wrote:
>  to saving files, after my computer crashed this summer & I lost all kinds of 
> files, I invested in--less than $20--a flash drive.  I used to keep my files 
> on my hard drive because I didn't like the idea of burning a CD all the time. 
>  The flash drive has all the attributes of the old "floppy" 
> technology--portability, plus adding & deleting files & 2gig seems like a 
> nice round number.  I just put it in my pocket when I visit friends so they 
> can dow
>  nload any files they'd like & I can do the same.  Hope this helps some other 
> low tech lacemakers out there!  Sincerely, Susan
>

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Re: [lace] Making a Leaf tally

[Avital]

Videos are normally only taken down from YouTube if there is a
copyright violation involved or if the original uploader decides to
delete it. So it seems that Tess's video is likely to be around for a
while.

Avital

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Regina Haring  wrote:
> The bottom-line question - it seems to me anyway - is how long a video will
> remain on YouTube, and who makes the decision as to when it is taken off. If
> I could be sure it will remain available for a good long time (and I surely
> hope so, as it looks like a wonderful technique), then all I would do is add
> it to my Favorites list.
>
> Does anyone know who decides when a video is taken off YouTube?
>
> Regina Haring
> Nanuet, NY
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Re: [lace] Making a Leaf tally

[Regina Haring]

The bottom-line question - it seems to me anyway - is how long a video will 
remain on YouTube, and who makes the decision as to when it is taken off. 
If I could be sure it will remain available for a good long time (and I 
surely hope so, as it looks like a wonderful technique), then all I would do 
is add it to my Favorites list.


Does anyone know who decides when a video is taken off YouTube?

Regina Haring
Nanuet, NY 


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[lace] Future Lacemakers of the Holy Land

[Sister Claire]

Mayliss and Elvira started their lessons again. There were terrible problems
scheduling last year, and I was ill at the end of the year and beginning of
this one, so they only managed to learn the basic stitches. Last week they
started on fan-and-triangle mats from Gilian Dye's book. After a few false
starts last week, this week they started lacing in earnest.

Here are a couple of pictures. (They didn't want their faces this time.) <
http://picasaweb.google.com/srclaireedith/LaceClass200910?feat=directlink>

Sr. Claire

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Re: [lace] making a leaf tally

[Susan Reishus]

I "believe" that one should be able to burn a CD from their saved video, which
would give you about 6 years (or more) of safe storage, and last longer than
most PC's and some Macs.

The steps I dare not go into, as I dance between computers and often hesitate
at the differing steps, but am certain others have quick access from their
frontal lobes for most applications.  

Best,Susan Reishus

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[lace] afficot & saving files

[hottleco]

Hello All!  If you found the arachne archives for afficot, you passed the 
Google results for several French sites that give a short explanation.  Just 
click on the translate button.  There are several references to Picardy & 
Patois Normand indicating that the afficot is used to hook, fix or fasten, as 
in "a small turned & perforated boxwood instrument in which one supports or 
'fixes' one of a pair of knitting needles."  That sort of makes sense.  Does 
anyone want to bet that an item fitting this description will turn up on 
EBay??!  As to saving files, after my computer crashed this summer & I lost all 
kinds of files, I invested in--less than $20--a flash drive.  I used to keep my 
files on my hard drive because I didn't like the idea of burning a CD all the 
time.  The flash drive has all the attributes of the old "floppy" 
technology--portability, plus adding & deleting files & 2gig seems like a nice 
round number.  I just put it in my pocket when I visit friends so they can dow
 nload any files they'd like & I can do the same.  Hope this helps some other 
low tech lacemakers out there!  Sincerely, Susan

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RE: [lace] What is an afficot?

[Jay Ekers]

Hello Pene,

check
www.guildofneedlelaces.org/Sales.html

They have a photo of an aficot for sale for 9 English pounds.

Jay, currently visiting grandchildren in Perth, Australia
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pene piip
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Can anyone describe what an afficot looks like & how is it used?
Thanks,
Pene

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Re: [lace] What is an afficot?

[Clay Blackwell]

Pene, if you have Gertrude Whiting's book, "Old-Time Tools & Toys of 
Needlework", you'll see an aficot pictured on page 328.  It is a 
pressing tool, but also a laying tool in embroidery.  The pointed end 
could be used for laying, and the rounded end used to press creases.  It 
does rather resemble a lobster claw...  with the hinged part removed. 


If you don't have this book, I can send you a scan of the page...

Clay

pene piip wrote:

I was have a little dip into Rosemary Shepherd's new book
"An Early Lace Workbook" and on page 63 I read this:

"To press some of the stitches flat I used the round end of a
19th century bone bodkin as an afficot (not having a lobster
claw to hand)."

Well, I wanted to know what an afficot is?
I looked up www.dictionary.com & the word could not be found.
So, is it a French word pronounced like "picot" & not like "apricot"?
I also googled the word & came up with 2 references on the Arachne
Archive when in Jan. 2007 a real lobster claw was raffled.

Can anyone describe what an afficot looks like & how is it used?
Thanks,
Pene

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Re: [lace] Re: Saving Making a Leaf tally

[Lesley Blackshaw]

Tamara P Duvall wrote:

Google is my friend; it knows where YouTube "lives". Type in: "making a 
leaf tally+YouTube" and there you are... It's already *been* saved -- on 
YouTube; I don't have to waste space on my personal 'puter.


This, of course, relies on having internet access whenever you need to 
view the video.  Saving to hard drive is useful for those times when the 
internet can't or won't be accessed. That said, I've just marked this 
one in my favourites folder on Firefox, and as soon as my Open 
University end of course assessment is done, I'm going to give it a go.


Lesley
in a surprisingly warm and
sunny Cheshire.

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Re: [lace] Other ways to make a tally - Jean Leader video

[Brenda Paternoster]

My way is similar to Jean's but I don't let go of the weaver bobbin at  
all and I do the tensioning with a sort of double flick each time the  
weaver has gone underneath the right hand passive.  I usually use  
spangled bobbins (they don't roll around!) but the method works with  
any style of bobbin.

Maybe one day I'll set up the camcorder to record how I do it.

Brenda

>
> Here's the link to Lean Leader's tally video.
>
> http://www.jeanleader.co.uk/techniques/leaftallies.html
>

Brenda in Allhallows
paternos...@appleshack.com
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/

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[lace] Tallies

[Alex Stillwell]

Thank you Tess. The big problems lacemakers have are often the related to the
technique of making them rather than the proces itself. This one proves my
point. If anyone has a particular problem try thinking of different ways of
making it and asking ofhers how they do it, you may find an answer.

Alex

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RE: [lace] What is an afficot?

[Elizabeth Pass]

Good Morning all,

Take a look at this page - http://www.guildofneedlelaces.org/Sales.html - it
shows a modern aficot (pronounced 'aff ee co' a bit like picot, with the
stress on the first syllable.)  Make sure that you scroll down at least half
way to find it.

By the way, if anyone needs a good introductory book, the first on the page
is very useful and modestly priced.  I haven't seen the second one yet.  

I'm not a member of this guild so have no vested interest in the sales page.

Liz Pass
In Poole, Dorset - at last a sunny day.

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[lace] Other ways to make a tally - Jean Leader video

[Jean Nathan]

Alice wrote:

tally..


I would like to see the 8 (or more) methods illustrated,>

Here's the link to Lean Leader's tally video.

http://www.jeanleader.co.uk/techniques/leaftallies.html

Jean In Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] making a leaf tally

[Alice Howell]

Someone commented that they were shown 8 different ways to make a tally.  I 
have seen several, though not eight.  This variation in the video was new to me.

I learned to make tallies with midland bobbins.  It's very possible, though 
perhaps not the best for the method in the video.  I never tried to hold two of 
the bobbins constantly in my fingers.  In fact, when I learned tallies, I had 
active arthritis in my fingers and could not hang on to the bobbins in any 
normal fashion.  I was taught the method where the bobbins lie on the pillow 
and are lifted separately when the worker weaves over and under.  At the end of 
each pass, the passives are held spread under tension with the fingers while 
the worker is gently pulled into position.  Due to the pain in my fingers, the 
only way I could hold the bobbins under tension was with my forearm across the 
three bobbins and the other hand controlling the worker.  I was in a class and 
*had* to do it right then so I could proceed with the pattern.  It was awkward 
but I did what I had to.

Normally, now I hold the three bobbins tight with three fingers pressing them 
firmly to the pillow during the tensioning.  I have also seen a demostration of 
making tallies while holding the three passives between the fingers and moving 
the weaver in and out between them.  I think this is more common with bolster 
pillows.

Some people tension the worker after passing over and back, so they tension 
always from one side.  Some people tension on each side.  The central passive 
is sometimes held firmly in the middle, and sometimes moved from side to side, 
opposite of the worker thread.

I want to encourage people that they can make tallies no matter what kind of 
bobbins or pillow they use.  There's more than one way to make a leaf or tally.

Maybe this is a subject that someone could research and write up in a book.  I 
would like to see the 8 (or more) methods illustrated.

Alice in Oregon ... where I'm setting up a project that has lots of square 
tallies in it. It should give me practice.



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From: tess parrish 

...  I also notice that I made much of the difference in ease of working 
tallies this way with continental bobbins as opposed to midlands bobbins.  This 
was because my friend, something of a beginner at lacemaking, had been having 
trouble making tallies with her midlands bobbins, which are all she has.  It is 
not meant to be a slur on one kind of bobbin over the other (I started out with 
midlands myself), but to suggest that she might find it easier to try bobbins 
without spangles.

Anyway, what's done is done, and I hope that this will clear up some of the 
confusion which inevitably occurs when one is trying to explain a process 
without visual aids.  The link to YouTube is: 
  I hope you find it useful.

Tess (tess1...@aol.com) in Maine USA on a lovely day.

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[lace] New Tally Video

[David C COLLYER]

Dear Friends,
It's now 6:00pm Friday here in Ballarat and my friend Mike KONTUR has 
just left. He recorded me making a leaf tally using midlands bobbins 
and will now edit it and then post it on Utube.


I shall let you know the link as soon as he's done it.
David

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[lace] What is an afficot?

[pene piip]

I was have a little dip into Rosemary Shepherd's new book
"An Early Lace Workbook" and on page 63 I read this:

"To press some of the stitches flat I used the round end of a
19th century bone bodkin as an afficot (not having a lobster
claw to hand)."

Well, I wanted to know what an afficot is?
I looked up www.dictionary.com & the word could not be found.
So, is it a French word pronounced like "picot" & not like "apricot"?
I also googled the word & came up with 2 references on the Arachne
Archive when in Jan. 2007 a real lobster claw was raffled.

Can anyone describe what an afficot looks like & how is it used?
Thanks,
Pene

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[lace] Downloading Youtube videos

[Jean Nathan]

Putting the video in Favourites, takes you to the Youtube site when you 
click it, but does not save it to the hard drive of your computer to play 
again if/when you're not connected to the net. Fine if you're on broadband 
and don't have a download limit, but not if on dial-up. Plus as has been 
mentioned, videos are sometimes removed from Youtube after a while.


I used to use 'Youtube to iPod converter' to save videos to my hard disk, 
but that stopped working after a while. They must make 'improvements' to 
Youtube so that a particular saving programme no longer works, and someone 
comes up with another that will.


I now prefer to copy and save from the temporary internet files, because you 
don't need to download it twice as you do when you view it to see if you 
want to keep it and then save it with another programme. It also doesn't 
depend on a third party programme which might cease to work in a few months.


I've already saved Jean Leader's video and watched it over and over again. 
That sorted out the problems I was having making and finishing leaves - 
thank you Jean. I've glanced at Tess's while doing something else which 
needed to be dealt with urgently, and I'll spent time this afternoon 
watching it over and over to see if I can improve further. I like Jean's 
method - on the pillow - because my left hand gets painfully stuck if I hold 
the bobbins apart in my fingers.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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