Re: [lace] various stitch definitions coral reef crochet
And then, whenever I forget which way cross is, I remind myself that it contains the letter r, so goes to the right, which means that twist is to the left. Agnes Boddington I also find it much less tongue-tying to teach a stitch naming the moves cross, twist, cross than the two over three. sequence! However, some people are more numerically minded and find the numbers easier to understand than the words we are all different! -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Posh Bags
They are, I saw an ad for them in the current Lace magazine, I don't have it to hand though and they are not one of the advertisers on the web site, perhaps someone could look it up for you jenny Scotland On 28 Mar 2010, at 22:03, thelace...@aol.com wrote: HI Guys, Been a little while since I posted. Are Posh Bags still going? If so, does anyone have a web or postal address for them? Thanks in advance Liz Baker - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] various stitch definitions coral reef crochet
Thanks for that tip Agnes - because I too find it hard to remember which is a cross and which is a twist. My fingers just do them automatically and without thinking which is which! Karen in Malta -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Agnes Boddington Sent: 29 March 2010 10:05 To: Jane Partridge Cc: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] various stitch definitions coral reef crochet And then, whenever I forget which way cross is, I remind myself that it contains the letter r, so goes to the right, which means that twist is to the left. Agnes Boddington I also find it much less tongue-tying to teach a stitch naming the moves cross, twist, cross than the two over three. sequence! However, some people are more numerically minded and find the numbers easier to understand than the words we are all different! -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Hyperbolic Crochet
I was lucky enough to see the Sydney Hyperbolic Crochet Reef (or part of it) when it was exhibited in London 2 or 3 years ago. It was beautifully displayed and lit. Quite awesome - using fishing line and bits of plastic as well as conventional materials to conjure up the beauty of all the sea creatures that are threatened by damage to Coral Reefs. Bridget, in Pinner, Middlesex Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 13:04:54 -0500 From: deanna7 Cohen Subject: [lace] Hyperbolic Crochet patterns Here are some free patterns for hyperbolic crochet, if you want to try it. I had fun with some of these and others quite a while back. Don't remember what I did with them or I would post a picture. http://sydneyreef.blogspot.com/2009/04/blog-post.html - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] The Tudors - costumes
HENRY VIII On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Sue Harvey wrote: I was lucky enough to get a couple of photos of Henry VIII and did notice that the front of his costumes seemed to be decorated with gold bobbin lace Hi Sue, you obviously had a wonderful day out at Hampton Court. Thank you for posting the photos. The costumes look splendid, and really bring the portraits to life. I think the goldwork may have been embroidery rather than lace on the original. Though, again going by contemporary portraits, gold lace and bobbin-made braids were around before the white linen laces came to England. Very little actual lace survives from this (or any other) period because the valuable gold could be melted down and used again. LADY JANE GREY On Tue, 23 Mar 2010, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote: I have seen a photo of a painting where Lady Jane Grey certainly had narrow torchon-type lace around her cuffs Hi Liz, I'm intrigued to know what Portrait you are referring to. There aren't that many, and most (if not all) are later copies rather than strictly contemporary. The National Portrait Gallery in London has recently put on display a painting newly identified as Jane Grey, but even that was painted 40 years after her death. It has no lace - just a little embroidery at the neck and cuffs. Bridget Marrow, in Pinner, Middlesex. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Posh Bags
Google gives their web address as www.poshbagsuk.co.uk. Is that the one you want? Been a little while since I posted. Are Posh Bags still going? If so, does anyone have a web or postal address for them? Thanks in advance Liz Baker - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Posh Bags
No! That's a website for PoshbagsUK which is not Janette Smith's Posh Bags. Brenda . On 29 Mar 2010, at 20:42, Nancy Neff wrote: Google gives their web address as www.poshbagsuk.co.uk. Is that the one you want? Been a little while since I posted. Are Posh Bags still going? If so, does anyone have a web or postal address for them? Thanks in advance Liz Baker - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Posh Bags
OK - I give in - I went down to the basement to find a Lace Society Magazine. The Address is: Posh Bags Janette Smith P. OP. Box 2114 Salisbury, Wilts SP2 2BD Tel: 01722 320161 Malvary in Ottawa where it is supposed to be much warmer (4c at the moment and rained most of the day) later in the week. Hooray, the chaps can come back and rebuild, under warranty, my front steps which were falling apart. When they were built originally it was pouring with rain the whole time and the workmen said that they can tell because some of the stones were attached properly. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Posh Bags
That should read PO Box 2114 (not P OP Box) Malvary - Original Message - From: Malvary J Cole malva...@sympatico.ca Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Posh Bags OK - I give in - I went down to the basement to find a Lace Society Magazine. The Address is: Posh Bags Janette Smith P. OP. Box 2114 Salisbury, Wilts SP2 2BD Tel: 01722 320161 Malvary in Ottawa where it is supposed to be much warmer (4c at the moment and rained most of the day) later in the week. Hooray, the chaps can come back and rebuild, under warranty, my front steps which were falling apart. When they were built originally it was pouring with rain the whole time and the workmen said that they can tell because some of the stones were attached properly. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] The Tudors - costumes
In message snt127-w5443a5f5546d1c79a5ce42ba...@phx.gbl, Bridget Marrow
bridgetmar...@msn.com writes
HENRY VIII
The costumes look splendid, and really bring the portraits to life. I
think the goldwork may have been embroidery rather than lace on the
original.
Some time ago I quoted a passage from J R Planché's book, A History of
British Costume - published by Charles Knight, London, 1836 - which is
based on contemporary reports of the costumes worn. The following quotes
are from this book.
'When Henry VIII met Anne of Cleves he was habited, according to Hall,
in a coat of velvet, somewhat made like a frocke, embroidered all over
with flatted gold of damaske, and other laces of the same going
traversewise, that the ground little appeared, and about this garment
was a rich guard or border, very curiously embroidered; the sleeves and
the breast were cut and lined with cloth of gold, and tied together with
great buttons of diamonds, rubies and orient pearles.' (pp 237-8)
(Hall - Union of the Families of York and Lancaster, Folio. London
1548-50)
But, I've just found another, earlier quote... Page 221, talking about
his father, Henry VII
'This sort of habit, however, was worn only by the nobility. In
Barclay's Ship of Fooles of the Worlde, printed by Pynson AD1508, may be
found several notices of the dress of the day. Mention is made of some
who had their necks
Charged with collars and chaines
In golden writhes, their fingers full of rings,
Their necks naked almost unto the raines,
Their sleeves blazing like unto a crane's wings.
And others are called on to come neare with their shirts bordered in
forme of surplois.
Shirts bordered with lace, and curiously adorned with needlework,
continued a long time in use amongst the nobility and gentry.'
Laces (note the s) are mentioned separately, in terms of use for
attaching slashed parts of sleeves together
'The elegant fashion of slashing makes its appearance about this
time.. the complete division of the sleeve into two or more pieces,
and their attachment to each other by means of points or laces through
which the shirt is seen puffed and protruding.'
which is why I think the lace bordering the shirt is different to the
laces (think shoe-type laces) joining the parts of the sleeves. Gold
network was used in under caps at this time. (p222).
Lace is mentioned the chapter about Elizabeth - from the time of the
Armada in 1588 when she has a portrait painted, wearing a high-standing
collar edged with lace and then mention of ruffs in a quote from a
document by Stubbs ('Anatomy of Abuses') clogged with gold, silver or
silk lace (p258)
But, lack of referral to lace prior to that date doesn't necessarily
mean that it wasn't being worn.
and then onto the gowns,
but if the whole garment be not of silk or velvet, then the same must
be layed with lace two or three fingers broad all over the gown; or if
lace is not fine enough for them, hesays they must be decorated with
broad gardes of velvet edged with costly lace
If I remember correctly (and I'm sure I'll be corrected otherwise!) lace
was being made in Spain before Katherine of Aragon came to England (ie
late 1400s), and it would therefore be likely that she would possess
lace, and maybe some of her ladies would know of its production. At this
time, Henry VII was still on the throne (until 1509). The much mentioned
pattern books - published in the 1560s (?) and saying that lace was
being made for some 25 years previous to that - puts a date around 1536,
when Elizabeth would have been about three years old - and Henry VIII
didn't die until 1547. Planché writes that fashions didn't change much
between Henry VIII and Elizabeth's reigns - possibly with the amount of
money needed for the various wars no-one could afford it! Also, how
skilful were the artists of the time in depicting lace as opposed to
embroidery? We depend a lot on portraiture, but can we be certain what
we are looking at?
Could the reason why the earlier writers described the needlework as
being curious be because they hadn't come across lace before and it was
as near a description as they could make, especially to needlelace?
--
Jane Partridge
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Re: [lace] The Tudors - costumes
Thank you, Jane! What an informative long post. I'm saving the most useful
posts in files, and yours is definitely one to keep!
Thanks again for the
work in putting all this together and out there for the rest of us.
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
From: Jane Partridge
jpartri...@pebble.demon.co.uk
To: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010
6:00:05 PM
Subject: [lace] The Tudors - costumes
In message
snt127-w5443a5f5546d1c79a5ce42ba...@phx.gbl, Bridget Marrow
bridgetmar...@msn.com writes
HENRY VIII
The costumes look splendid, and
really bring the portraits to life. I think the goldwork may have been
embroidery rather than lace on the original.
Some time ago I quoted a passage
from J R Planché's book, A History of British Costume - published by Charles
Knight, London, 1836 - which is based on contemporary reports of the costumes
worn. The following quotes are from this book.
'When Henry VIII met Anne of
Cleves he was habited, according to Hall, in a coat of velvet, somewhat made
like a frocke, embroidered all over with flatted gold of damaske, and other
laces of the same going traversewise, that the ground little appeared, and
about this garment was a rich guard or border, very curiously embroidered; the
sleeves and the breast were cut and lined with cloth of gold, and tied
together with great buttons of diamonds, rubies and orient pearles.' (pp
237-8)
(Hall - Union of the Families of York and Lancaster, Folio. London
1548-50)
But, I've just found another, earlier quote... Page 221, talking
about his father, Henry VII
'This sort of habit, however, was worn only
by the nobility. In Barclay's Ship of Fooles of the Worlde, printed by Pynson
AD1508, may be found several notices of the dress of the day. Mention is made
of some who had their necks
Charged with collars and chaines
In golden
writhes, their fingers full of rings,
Their necks naked almost unto the
raines,
Their sleeves blazing like unto a crane's wings.
And others are
called on to come neare with their shirts bordered in forme of surplois.
Shirts bordered with lace, and curiously adorned with needlework, continued a
long time in use amongst the nobility and gentry.'
Laces (note the s) are
mentioned separately, in terms of use for attaching slashed parts of sleeves
together
'The elegant fashion of slashing makes its appearance about this
time.. the complete division of the sleeve into two or more pieces, and
their attachment to each other by means of points or laces through which the
shirt is seen puffed and protruding.'
which is why I think the lace
bordering the shirt is different to the laces (think shoe-type laces)
joining the parts of the sleeves. Gold network was used in under caps at this
time. (p222).
Lace is mentioned the chapter about Elizabeth - from the time
of the Armada in 1588 when she has a portrait painted, wearing a
high-standing collar edged with lace and then mention of ruffs in a quote
from a document by Stubbs ('Anatomy of Abuses') clogged with gold, silver or
silk lace (p258)
But, lack of referral to lace prior to that date doesn't
necessarily mean that it wasn't being worn.
and then onto the gowns,
but if
the whole garment be not of silk or velvet, then the same must be layed with
lace two or three fingers broad all over the gown; or if lace is not fine
enough for them, hesays they must be decorated with broad gardes of velvet
edged with costly lace
If I remember correctly (and I'm sure I'll be
corrected otherwise!) lace was being made in Spain before Katherine of Aragon
came to England (ie late 1400s), and it would therefore be likely that she
would possess lace, and maybe some of her ladies would know of its production.
At this time, Henry VII was still on the throne (until 1509). The much
mentioned pattern books - published in the 1560s (?) and saying that lace was
being made for some 25 years previous to that - puts a date around 1536, when
Elizabeth would have been about three years old - and Henry VIII didn't die
until 1547. Planché writes that fashions didn't change much between Henry VIII
and Elizabeth's reigns - possibly with the amount of money needed for the
various wars no-one could afford it! Also, how skilful were the artists of the
time in depicting lace as opposed to embroidery? We depend a lot on
portraiture, but can we be certain what we are looking at?
Could the reason
why the earlier writers described the needlework as being curious be because
they hadn't come across lace before and it was as near a description as they
could make, especially to needlelace?
-- Jane Partridge
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[lace] Gold bobbin lace
I have meant to mention this for a long time While in Italy a few years ago, I visited the Museum of Texiles in Prato. There are some amazing textiles in very good condition which date back to some very early periods. There are several clerical garments with gold and silver bobbin lace. They are very simple torchon-like edgings, similar to those in Hermine Hartmann's Tradition-Goldspitzen. Obviously, I guess the clergy could afford not to melt down its gold bobbin lace...(-: Anyway, should you find yourself in Tuscany, do try to make a visit to this wonderful museum. Vicki in rainy Maryland A quote in an email from Bridget Marrow from a previous email from (?): Very little actual lace survives from this (or any other) period because the valuable gold could be melted down and used again - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
