[lace] There must be a better way!!

2010-04-08 Thread David C COLLYER

Dear Friends,

There must be a better way! I am currently working on a piece of 
Chantilly which uses about 85 pairs - nowhere near as many as some 
I've done. However, this piece (p.98 in LOHR's Schwartzarbiet if 
you have it) has very large maple-like leaves with numerous veins, 
which require nearly all bobbins to be usable at any one pass.


Whilst I'm getting there and plodding on, I am just wondering whether 
there might be a better way that our collective heads can come up 
with. At present I find I am having to place bobbins on holders for 
every single pass and this is really slowing things down.


Any suggestions more than welcome.

David in Ballarat

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[lace] motifs made with Blendables Sulky Thread

2010-04-08 Thread Mark, aka Tatman
I have a couple of pieces to show you that I have worked on last weekend
and one I just got off the pillow. They feature a thread I haven't come
across before.   My wife and I visited this quilt shop in Effingham,
IL that we hadn't been to in a long time.  I looked through their
threads in hopes of finding something new to tat or bobbin lace
with.  I DID!  It is called Blendables by Sulky.  Hadn't
heard of this thread type before made by Sulky but apparently has been on
the market for a while.  But I liked it so got a few color
samples.  It is size 30 wt, two ply thread which seems to be
comparable to Madiera Tanne size 50.  I think.

The first
is a torchon bookmark.  It is made with Heather Blendable
Sulky thread size 30.  It really is an itty bitty bookmark done in
this size thread.  It measures(not including the tail) 11cm long by
2.2cm wide(4.25 x 1 inch).  You can see the subtle hues of lavendar
and green and how the color changes.  No strong color lines and the
color change is from 2.5 to 5 inches.  I like that!

http://www.tat-man.net/bobbinburg/BLgallery/BLbookmark.jpg

I
just got this motif off my pillow last night.  It is a lesson in
Idrija style bobbin lace.   It is called Midnight
Sky.  You can barely see the subtle hues of dark blue and
purple.  Much better in person ;) It measures 6.3cm(2.5 inches).

http://www.tat-man.net/bobbinburg/BLgallery/Idrija_motif.jpg

Now to select another little motif to try with the Blendables
Sulky thread.  FUN!

-- 
Mark, aka Tatman
website: http://www.tat-man.net
blog:
http://tatmantats.wordpress.com
etsy shop: http://tatman.etsy.com
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[lace] Re: Hairwork

2010-04-08 Thread Mark, aka Tatman
When my wife and I visited Colonial Williamsburg in 2008 we saw the wig
maker shop and was fascinated.  Could watch her all day.  But
had to keep trekking on.  The tools she uses are fairly simple.: a
wood stand with two poles and three strands of string wound on the
poles.  There are various other tools, like a comb(similar to a
carder for sheeps wool).  She would wind the long lengths of hair
over/under/over the 3 strands.  Slide it over and then wind another
length under/over/under and slide over. This alternating lengths of hair
would lock in place.  She would then  secure the two ends of
string and take the row of hair to the wig form and sew it on.  Here
is a picture from Williamsburg that shows this process:

http://www.britannica.com/bps/image/644431/350/A-museum-interpreter-demonstrating-the-18th-century-art-of-wig

And here is a site that I found describes more in detail of how to
do it.  Altho it is constructing a man's wig, would work for female
too.

http://www.costumes.org/classes/254pages/projects/18thwigs.htm

Been enjoying this arachne thread. :)

-- 
Mark, aka
Tatman
website: http://www.tat-man.net
blog: 
http://tatmantats.wordpress.com
etsy shop: http://tatman.etsy.com
FB:   http://www.facebook.com/tatmantats

 This may begin
upon a digression, but with the interest in hairwork, and

reference to difficulty in finding people who will share technique, I
have
 found the same with wig work.
 I have a 3 foot cut
of my hair done when I turned 29, with the idea that I
 would
later have a wig made for a porcelain doll to give to a daughter I
 might
 later have.  Finding a wig maker was like
finding a needle in a haystack,
 the
 various times I
have tried.  
 I ran across one during a tour of the Guthrie
Theatre, but when asking if
 she
 was for hire, or would
teach, she clammed up.  Perhaps someone on the list
 knows
of an expert wig maker?  Ideally, I think it would mean more to my
 lineage if the wig was very well made by myself vs. another (also
being
 detail
 oriented as I am!), but I am open.
 
 Insight would be greatly appreciated!

Best,Susan Reishus(Who thinks she needs to be on individual emails so
my
 responses aren't so delayed!)  LOL

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Re: [lace] motifs made with Blendables Sulky Thread

2010-04-08 Thread Lenore English
Very beautiful, Mark!

I have been using Blendables 30wt in needle lace motifs. I don't
usually like variegated thread, but these colors are wonderful!

I'm just a beginner with needle lace, but I'm having fun!

Here's a link to my blog with the last completed leaf in Blendables
30wt Lime Sherbet.
I have another leaf that is almost done.

http://tatt3r-lace.blogspot.com/2010/03/green-leaf-is-finished.html

I found a set of 10 colors of Blendables 30wt on Overstock.com and
splurged with my birthday money. I have not yet tried it for tatting,
it behaves like pearl cotton, and I'd rather tat with Cebelia.

Lenore
Grand Rapids, MI USA


On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Mark, aka Tatman tat...@tat-man.net wrote:
 I have a couple of pieces to show you that I have worked on last weekend
 and one I just got off the pillow. They feature a thread I haven't come
 across before.   It is called Blendables by Sulky.  Hadn't
 heard of this thread type before made by Sulky but apparently has been on
 the market for a while.  But I liked it so got a few color
 samples.  It is size 30 wt, two ply thread which seems to be
 comparable to Madiera Tanne size 50.  I think.


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[lace] Re: motifs made with Blendables Sulky Thread

2010-04-08 Thread Mark, aka Tatman
Thank you :)
O  GORGEOUS leaf!  I have yet to try
needlelace of this sort.  I have done Armenian Knotting(type of
needle lace).  But nothing into this realm.  Lime Sherbert is
one of the other colors I picked up and plan on doing a leaf out of
it.  Seems fitting!  Thanks for showing us your leaf.
--

Mark, aka Tatman
website: http://www.tat-man.net
blog: 
http://tatmantats.wordpress.com
etsy shop: http://tatman.etsy.com
FB:   http://www.facebook.com/tatmantats

==
 Here's a
link to my blog with the last completed leaf in Blendables
 30wt
Lime Sherbet.
 I have another leaf that is almost done.



http://tatt3r-lace.blogspot.com/2010/03/green-leaf-is-finished.html

 Lenore
 Grand Rapids, MI USA

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Re: [lace] There must be a better way!!

2010-04-08 Thread Cherry Knobloch
Clay Blackwell's clever DH made a shelf that is fitted to the back part of 
her pillow, so she is able to set her bobbins on top, and under the shelf. 
Maybe an adaptation of this.



Cherry Knobloch
Chesapeake, Va USA

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Re: [lace] There must be a better way!!

2010-04-08 Thread David C COLLYER

At 03:29 AM 9/04/2010, Cherry Knobloch wrote:
Clay Blackwell's clever DH made a shelf that is fitted to the back 
part of her pillow, so she is able to set her bobbins on top, and 
under the shelf. Maybe an adaptation of this.


H - -- can't see that working in my case. I'm using a large 
horse-hair filled cookie-pillow which sits on a round foot stool 
between the TV and me, so it's easily swivelled.


I should have studied the pricking more thoroughly before I began the 
piece, and then I would have set it up on my large table-top desk, 
for which I thank dear Len Purcell every day I use it.

David in Ballarat

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Re: [lace] There must be a better way!!

2010-04-08 Thread Agnes Boddington

I have the pattern in front of me, and see what you mean.
There are an awful lot of pairs, especially in the horizontal leaves.
Cannot think of another way but to use holders or similar.
I'm quite interested how you get on, as I fancy doing this pattern myself, 
but

am tied up with some floral Bucks for the moment.
Agnes Boddington- Ellougthon UK

David Collyer wrote:

Whilst I'm getting there and plodding on, I am just wondering whether 
there might be a better way that our collective heads can come up with. At 
present I find I am having to place bobbins on holders for every single 
pass and this is really slowing things down.


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RE: [lace] There must be a better way!!

2010-04-08 Thread Karen Zammit Manduca
has very large maple-like leaves with numerous veins, 
which require nearly all bobbins to be usable at any one pass.



David that's the way many of the more intricate Maltese pieces are worked. I
worked on a table centre which had as many as 250 bobbins in use at the
corner and it is very tiresome and slow. In fact, Maltese, although
beautiful, is not exactly my favourite lace to work.
Karen in Malta

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[lace] Sulky

2010-04-08 Thread Lorelei Halley
Mark
I first heard about Sulky several years ago when someone posted a note about
it on arachne.  So I've been on the lookout ever since.  They make threads of
different fiber content, but they do have size 30 and size 12 in 100% cotton,
both in many colors and many variegated colors (what they call blendables).
Apparently both are used by quilters.  I have some of the size 12 and it is
really beautiful thread.  I found an online American source:
http://www.ericas.com/threads/
Lorelei

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[lace] Bobbin Lace sighting in fiction

2010-04-08 Thread drenged
 I'm just finishing the book, Tempt Me at Twilight by Lisa Kleypas, a romance
novel set in the mid 1800s.  The main character brings some gifts from the
country back to friends in London, and one of the items she brings is bobbin
lace.  (near the end of the novel, for those who might want to know).  This
novel is the third in a series that includes Seduce Me at Sunrise and Mine
Till Midnight, but this is the only one so far to mention lace.  You don't
have to read the previous two in the series to enjoy this one, but I enjoy all
of this author's works!

Annie

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Re: [lace] There must be a better way!!

2010-04-08 Thread lbuyred
David,
When I was working on a Flanders piece I ran into a situation where I had to 
take a pair of workers all the way aross the pillow and back.  I was too lazy 
to bind up the extra bobbins just to have to unbind them again half a minute 
later.  So I used a cover cloth that I placed on top of the bobbins I had just 
passed through.  Then I worked the other bobbins on top of the cover cloth.  
When I got to the other side of the pillow and started working back I worked 
until I got to the bobbins that were under the cover cloth.  Then I bound up 
the bobbins I had just passed through, uncovered the bobbins that had been 
under the cloth and continued working.

This did result in a very lumpy work surface, but I found that slowing down to 
work on the lumpy surface was not as bad as taking the time to bind and unbind 
the bobbins.

I am not sure I completely understand your situation, so this suggestion may 
not work.  But perhaps it will trigger an idea.
Liz Redford
Raleigh, NC, USA
 David C COLLYER dccoll...@ncable.net.au wrote: 
 Dear Friends,
 
 There must be a better way!  
 Any suggestions more than welcome.
 
 David in Ballarat

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[lace] Beeswax?

2010-04-08 Thread Lisa Morey

Hello List Friends,

I just saw a beeswax holder and needlecase auction on Ebay. I'm not  
familiar with the use of Beeswax in bobbin lace. Can someone  
enlighten me?


Lisa

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Re: [lace] Beeswax?

2010-04-08 Thread Clay Blackwell
Beeswax was (is) traditionally used as a lubricant on the pricker to 
keep the needle used for pricking from getting stuck in the pricking 
card.  With the increased use of the blue film over the pricking card, 
and also a tendency among lacemakers  to allow the sandwich of a 
pricking copy plus a card-stock under it with blue film over it to 
suffice for the pricking card, the need for beeswax has been reduced.


Hope this helps...

Clay



On 4/8/2010 7:23 PM, Lisa Morey wrote:

Hello List Friends,

I just saw a beeswax holder and needlecase auction on Ebay. I'm not 
familiar with the use of Beeswax in bobbin lace. Can someone enlighten 
me?


Lisa

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[lace] I'm Away

2010-04-08 Thread Clive Betty Rice
Dear Lacemakers and Sobbing Sisters of Southern Secessionists,
 
Clive and I shall be away until Sunday or Monday, and I shall unsubscribe from 
both lists so Verizon won't collapse under the weight of the e-mails.  Everyone 
Confederate History Month and Make Happy Lace.
 
Betty Ann Rice in Roanoke, Virginia USA
Roanoke Chapter 1907, Virginia Division UDC
Blue Ridge Lace Guild.

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[lace] There must be a better way!!

2010-04-08 Thread Julie Enevoldsen
David, I've also been thinking, there must be a better way!. I use various
systems, each of which has something to recommend it, none of which is
perfect. I use continental-style bobbins--I don't offhand remember what you
use. 

1. I've used the system of stacking the bobbins between pairs of very long
brass pins. It has the virtue of being relatively quick to put away
(scooping up the pairs along one pin and pinning against a second) and take
down remove the front pin and let the bobbins slide down to the pillow). The
disadvantages for me are that I'm not deft enough to always keep the pins in
order as I scoop, pin, and slide, so there's usually a certain amount of
reordering; if I stack more than, say, 4 pairs, the threads of the top
bobbins are raised so far off the pillow that they occasionally tangle in
pinheads; and it requires more real-estate than I'd like, especially with
patterns using more than, say, 75 pairs.

2. I've used the elastic band/tongue-depressor holders. These have the
virtue that they hold more bobbins than the pins comfortably do, and I can
stack several on top of each other, so saving some real estate. The
disadvantages are that it's more fiddly than I'd like scooping the bobbins
along the wood and securing the elastic. Also, sometimes I'm less than
coordinated about it, and the elastic snaps back, scattering bobbins and
taking even more time to sort out.

3. I've used the knitting-needle twin holders in a similar way. These hold
even more bobbins, but are still fiddlier than I'd like to secure.

4. Something I recently have experimented with: using a recycled section of
plastic spiral binding pushed down over the bobbins to separate them, then
using one of the aforementioned long pins slipped along the spiral and under
the bobbins, then pinned into the pillow vertically. This has the virtue of
keeping the bobbins quite reliably in order, and being perhaps a little
easier to put up and take down. You have to select an appropriate size of
spiral for the diameter of your bobbins. It saves somewhat on real estate
over system one. It's still fiddlier than I'd prefer.

5. I also sometimes use a small thick piece of cloth in much the same way
that Liz did, creating a layered work surface. I don't like the lumpiness.

I briefly tried and gave up on large French hairclips, with the spring
removed. The largest I have won't hold more than about 4 pairs, and the
curve makes it harder than it should be to scoop. I couldn't think of
anything quite like that but bigger and flatter. Maybe somebody else can.

I keep thinking there might be a cable-management system that could be
adapted, but so far, I've not found one that's appropriate.

I imagine creating something like the hairclips, but bigger and flatter, and
with scallops in the part that comes down over the bobbins to keep them in
order. But I think this would have to be specially-created.

I'll be curious to see if anyone has other ideas. 

--Julie E. in Seattle

j.enevold...@wlonk.com
weft.wlonk.com 

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[lace] motifs made with Blendables Sulky Thread

2010-04-08 Thread Janice Blair
Nice job Lenore.  I took a needle lace class at convention last year and have 
enjoyed what I have done, although I am working in DMC 8 and 12.  I haven't 
progressed to finer thread yet. Believe it or not, I am teaching a needle lace 
class to my lace guild next week.  Passing on my scant knowledge.  I also like 
to shop at Overstock for craft things so I will be checking that out. 
Janice

Lenore wrote:
I have been using Blendables 30wt in needle lace motifs. I don't usually like 
variegated thread, but these colors are wonderful!

I'm just a beginner with needle lace, but I'm having fun!

Here's a link to my blog with the last completed leaf in Blendables 30wt Lime 
Sherbet. I have another leaf that is almost done.

http://tatt3r-lace.blogspot.com/2010/03/green-leaf-is-finished.html

I found a set of 10 colors of Blendables 30wt on Overstock.com and splurged 
with my birthday money. I have not yet tried it for tatting,
it behaves like pearl cotton, and I'd rather tat with Cebelia.

Lenore
Grand Rapids, MI USA
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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[lace] A better way

2010-04-08 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
I have seen, somewhere, a lace maker using the bottom of ice-cream
containers, cut down to about 1 inch around the sides, but on 3 sides only,
and the other side cut down to the bottom. It is then used as a scoop/tray
for the bobbins, and can stack up on each other.  They might be quicker to
use.

Mark, those pieces you made with the Sulky threads are great.  The colours
blend so well without sharp colour changes.  I like that.

I have a few reels of the sulky cotton, but have only used them for needle
lace, - so far!  They certainly look good in bobbin lace.

Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
lizl...@bigpond.com

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Re: [lace] There must be a better way!!

2010-04-08 Thread lacelady
 I use the tongue depressor/elastic band method a lot.  It only takes a
couple seconds to scoop one under a group of bobbins and hook the band
over the other end.  Then the bundles stack up fairly well, or at least
lean against the pile of bundles.  I guess, since I'm used to doing it, I
seldom have a band not fasten, though I've known a few to fly through the
air across the room if I don't hang on to them just right. 

I've tried layers of cloth but wasn't happy with it.  I do it only in a
pinch.

Your question brought to mind the bobbin holder I got in Europe.  It's a
long U-shaped piece of wood with a long pin sticking out of the solid
end.  It's designed to scoop up a cluster of bobbins, and then be pinned
upright on the pillow.  It's a variation on the long brass pins used to
scoop up bobbins and hold them vertically.  In the U-shaped holder, the
bobbins cannot fall out or get out of order.  If I had more than one, it
would be fun to test the theory.  Maybe someone in Europe who has used
these could comment.

Alice in Oregon -- where we had a partly gray day but no rain.

Apr 8, 2010 05:48:56 AM, dccoll...@ncable.net.au wrote:

  Whilst I'm getting there and plodding on, I am just wondering
  whether
  there might be a better way

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Re: [lace] There must be a better way!!

2010-04-08 Thread Lorri Ferguson
Is there a picture of this somewhere that we can view?

Lorri

  Subject: Re: [lace] There must be a better way!!


  Clay Blackwell's clever DH made a shelf that is fitted to the back part of
  her pillow, so she is able to set her bobbins on top, and under the shelf.
  Maybe an adaptation of this.


  Cherry Knobloch
  Chesapeake, Va USA

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Re: [lace] There must be a better way!!

2010-04-08 Thread robinlace
One more gizmo for collecting/holding bobbins is made by John Aebi.  Imagine a 
wooden tuning fork with very long tines and no handle.  The tines taper at the 
tips, so you can place it on the pillow and scoop the bobbins into it.  There's 
a pinhole going through the tines at their tips, and another pinhole at the 
base (same direction as the one through the tips).

By scooping bobbins into the slot between the tines and, if necessary, pinning 
through the tines, I can quickly put a bunch (up to 10 pairs of Swiss bobbins) 
aside in order.  They're reasonably stackable.  For longer storage, the forks 
can stack and be held in place with a long pin through several of them.  I had 
140+ pairs on my pillow for a 'sGravensmoerse scarf, stacked in these forks.  
However, I didn't have to constantly add/remove as frequently as David is 
doing.  I find them faster than knitting stitch holders and tongue 
depressors/elastic, but still a bother.

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
robinl...@socal.rr.com

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