[lace] camera shy snake, Arizona archives, puncetto, GLFF BOD

2010-06-06 Thread hottleco
Hello All!  Thank you Mark for the delightfully curvy design.  Is this a camera 
shy snake or has he just begun to dive under the couch cushions?!?  Perhaps to 
reappear somewhere else, behind you?  G  Thanks also to Tess for posting a 
link to new postings on Ariz. archives.  The little buds  picots on page 39 of 
the 1st book make a charming edging.  Sadly I've lost touch with my Dutch 
heritage since the death of my grandmother, but wonder what she/they would 
think about my interest in lacemaking at this late date?  Loved the link to Il 
Ricamo--so lovely  elegant.  Oh to have time, money  staff in order to own, 
use  enjoy wonderful table  bed linens!  While at a quilt guild lecture, a 
friend was telling me about the plastic cloth on her kitchen table.  Practical 
yes, aesthetically pleasing no.  To Vicki, so glad you had fun in Wooster at 
the Great Lakes Fiber Festival.  The llamas always smile for the camera  one 
can never have too many sources for roving!  I'm so glad 
 that everyone else knows all about BOD as perhaps this means that some 
progress can (will?) be made on that front with the various publishers of lace 
books.  Since we remain a niche market, what can be done to serve our 
constituency in a reliable  affordable way?  Should some form of BOD be part 
of the solution?  With budget cuts, ILL is now down to 1 employee in Erie so 
getting OOP books is even more challenging.  The library expects delays of 6 
weeks  of course the 2 book ILL limit remains in effect.  So it goes here in 
the hinterlands.  Susan, Erie PA 

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[lace] Valuing antique bobbins

2010-06-06 Thread Beth Marshall
Hello everyone

Just got back from an evenings chat with my neighbour who came back yesterday 
from visiting family 
in Northamptonshire... bringing all her MIL's lace equipment with her. MIL has 
given up lacemaking 
due to poor eyesight and arthritic hands, and has given Sue the task of 
disposing of it. MIL had 
learned lacemaking as a child, then took it up again in the 1980's - her 
pillows are modern 
polystyrene ones, but her bobbins are all antique ones from an older lacemaker 
(or possibly several 
lacemakers...) who'd given up.
I had a lovely evening looking through them all - I don't think I've seen so 
many antique bone 
bobbins in one place before.

 Sue's daughters aren't interested in them at all, and Sue has no intention of 
trying lacemaking 
herself so she wants to sell the bobbins - does anyone have any ideas on how to 
value them, or how 
to go about selling them without too much time and trouble? There must be about 
a hundred bone 
bobbins, mostly decorated in some way and quite a few have names or mottoes, 
and even more wooden 
ones. 
(I'd love to have them all myself, but there's no way I could afford that many)

Regards
Beth
in Cheshire, NW England 

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Re: [lace] Valuing antique bobbins

2010-06-06 Thread Clay Blackwell

Hi Beth!

I suggest that your friend visit eBay and look at the antique bobbins 
which are listed there all the time.  Most importantly, she should look 
at the sold for... price, not the asking price.  This is a very good 
indicator of what people will pay for antique bobbins today - unless she 
has some very rare and highly-sought-after bobbins.  Hanging bobbins 
come to mind.  If she has any bobbins that give a name and state a date 
which says, hung on ., this is a valuable bobbin.  As always, the 
condition of the bobbins (*and* their original spangles) is paramount.


Before she (or anyone who does this for her) decided to list bobbins for 
sale on eBay, they should be completely sure of what they're talking 
about.  As we on Arachne know, there is a lot of junk listed with fancy 
terms that do not relate to the item itself.  On the other hand, failing 
to mention that a bobbin is a hanging bobbin (if it is, in fact...) will 
mean that lots of interested buyers won't even find it.


I would strongly urge your friend to take her time with disposing of 
these treasures.  The more time she puts into deciding when and how to 
sell the bobbins, the better the outcome.


In the US, there is a very highly regarded vendor who has taken on a 
large estate and has priced the items based on her own extensive 
knowledge.  The seller is patient, and doesn't require that the lot be 
liquidated immediately.  So, gradually all of these lovely pieces are 
being sold...  to people who can usually examine them in person at a 
lace day or other gathering, and make a knowledgeable decision.  If 
there is such a vendor in your (or your friend's) area, I would highly 
recommend this approach.


Apologies for this lengthy response, but I do hope Beth and her friend 
find good homes (at fair prices) for these treasures.


Clay

On 6/6/2010 5:45 PM, Beth Marshall wrote:

Hello everyone

Just got back from an evenings chat with my neighbour who came back yesterday 
from visiting family
in Northamptonshire... bringing all her MIL's lace equipment with her. MIL has 
given up lacemaking
due to poor eyesight and arthritic hands, and has given Sue the task of 
disposing of it. MIL had
learned lacemaking as a child, then took it up again in the 1980's - her 
pillows are modern
polystyrene ones, but her bobbins are all antique ones from an older lacemaker 
(or possibly several
lacemakers...) who'd given up.
I had a lovely evening looking through them all - I don't think I've seen so 
many antique bone
bobbins in one place before.

  Sue's daughters aren't interested in them at all, and Sue has no intention of 
trying lacemaking
herself so she wants to sell the bobbins - does anyone have any ideas on how to 
value them, or how
to go about selling them without too much time and trouble? There must be about 
a hundred bone
bobbins, mostly decorated in some way and quite a few have names or mottoes, 
and even more wooden
ones.
(I'd love to have them all myself, but there's no way I could afford that many)

Regards
Beth
in Cheshire, NW England

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Re: [lace] Valuing antique bobbins

2010-06-06 Thread Nancy Neff
In addition to all of Clay's good advice, isn't there a strong probability
that some of these bone bobbins may actually be ivory? especially if they
are old and beautifully decorated?

If so, there are two points to consider.
1) they are probably more valuable than the same thing in bone (right?), and
2) selling and shipping ivory, even unknowingly, can run into some legal
issues. These bobbins would certainly be old enough to be
grandfathered--i.e., legal ivory--but one might want to check what
documentation of their age might be needed and whether there are any
export/import issues if they are sold outside of the country (as is
easily possible via ebay).

Nancy
Connecticut USA


From: Clay Blackwell
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To: Beth Marshall b...@capuchin.co.uk
Cc:
lace@arachne.com
Sent: Sun, June 6, 2010 6:08:50 PM
Subject: Re: [lace]
Valuing antique bobbins

Before she (or anyone who does this for her) decided
to list bobbins for sale on eBay, they should be completely sure of what
they're talking about.  As we on Arachne know, there is a lot of junk listed
with fancy terms that do not relate to the item itself.  On the other hand,
failing to mention that a bobbin is a hanging bobbin (if it is, in fact...)
will mean that lots of interested buyers won't even find it.
...



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Re: [lace] Valuing antique bobbins

2010-06-06 Thread Clay Blackwell
I am not claiming to be an expert on this at all, and so welcome all who 
have substantive knowledge to refute this.  But it has been my 
impression over the years that since the making of bobbin lace was 
relegated to the lower classes (the lace then being bought by the upper 
classes), that the use of ivory in the making of bobbins was rare to the 
extreme... Ladies who could afford this kind of bobbin would be more 
likely to purchase the lace already made.


But I do think that even though this has been discussed some years ago 
on this list, it would make a lively discussion today!  So...  what are 
the characteristics of bone bobbins vs. ivory bobbins?  And are there 
any documented ivory bobbins in existance?


Thank you, Nancy, for prompting this discussion!!

Clay




On 6/6/2010 6:20 PM, Nancy Neff wrote:

In addition to all of Clay's good advice, isn't there a strong probability
that some of these bone bobbins may actually be ivory? especially if they
are old and beautifully decorated?

If so, there are two points to consider.
1) they are probably more valuable than the same thing in bone (right?), and
2) selling and shipping ivory, even unknowingly, can run into some legal
issues. These bobbins would certainly be old enough to be
grandfathered--i.e., legal ivory--but one might want to check what
documentation of their age might be needed and whether there are any
export/import issues if they are sold outside of the country (as is
easily possible via ebay).

Nancy
Connecticut USA


From: Clay Blackwell
clayblackw...@comcast.net
To: Beth Marshallb...@capuchin.co.uk
Cc:
lace@arachne.com
Sent: Sun, June 6, 2010 6:08:50 PM
Subject: Re: [lace]
Valuing antique bobbins

Before she (or anyone who does this for her) decided
to list bobbins for sale on eBay, they should be completely sure of what
they're talking about.  As we on Arachne know, there is a lot of junk listed
with fancy terms that do not relate to the item itself.  On the other hand,
failing to mention that a bobbin is a hanging bobbin (if it is, in fact...)
will mean that lots of interested buyers won't even find it.
...



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