Re: [lace] lace identification please

2013-11-08 Thread Brenda Paternoster
If you go to the link
http://www.grangecraft.com/product_info.php?prod_id=29
then click on the photo of the lace to enlargeit,  it is clearly labelled
"Irish Lace, Hand finished lace made on traditional embroidery frames."
The smaller writing underneath reads
"The tradition of Embroidery and Lace Making in Ireland dates back to the early 
nineteenth century and different areas of the country developed their own 
particular styles.  Our aim is to re-create some of the styles and effects of 
the Irish embroiderers of yesteryear.  Our skills are traditional, but out 
techniques and materials are of today.  We hope that our product, made for you 
with care and pride, will give you pleasure.  By Grange Crafts, County Cork, 
Ireland."

I take that to mean that it is in the style of traditional Irish lace (and it 
has the shamrock motif) but not made in the same way

If you go to 
http://www.grangecraft.com/products.php?cat_id=22
you will see that they offer bookmarks, coasters and traycloth etc, all just 
different sized pieces cut from a large piece of lace fabric with a repeating 
pattern - which I think confirms that someone used scissors to snip the 
sections apart to make it hand finished!
.  
On 8 Nov 2013, at 16:48, Sue wrote:

>  i wasn't thinking it was hand made so where did the hand finished come in. 

Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Re: [lace] Irish lace

2013-11-08 Thread Sue
Thank you every one always interesting to hear you explain either just tiny 
bits about it or some in much more detail, Brilliant.
I was never much interested in needle laces (although i did some embroidery 
in my 20s and 30s) I think its partly due to my strange eye sight, but have 
got more interested in looking and maybe trying one or two bits.Spurred 
on by your enthusiasm.

Sue T
Dorset UK


I agree that it is chemical lace.  Even the placemats under "Irish lace" are
chemical lace.
Lorelei

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[lace] Conservation, Interlocking stitches to create lacy textiles

2013-11-08 Thread Jeriames
Since some lacy textiles are made by very sophisticated  embroidery 
machines, years ago I learned more about them during embroidery  study in 
Europe.  
The trick is that every stitch fiber's needle must  penetrate another 
stitch, or an item would fall apart when released from a  backing material that 
holds the work together during  manufacture. 
 
Pat Earnshaw's books "Lace Machines and Machine Laces" Volumes 1  and 2 
(love the title), and her "How to Recognize Machine Laces" are most  helpful 
for those who wish to learn more about machine-made laces.   Lace guilds often 
have these research books in their lending libraries.  In  Vol. 2 on page 
111 there is an explanation of how chemical lace developed  in Switzerland.  
The main human force was Charles Wetter, who began  experiments in 1879.  
 
Here is where lessons on lace conservation come into play.  Silk was  
destroyed by chlorine bleach and/or caustic soda.  Cotton was  not.   See the 
logic?  Use a silk base, and embroider with 100  percent cotton!  In developing 
the process, Wetter's lungs were  damaged by the poisonous gas.  No doubt 
other materials are used as base  fabrics today.
 
You will remember my frequent admonitions not to use bleaches  when washing 
lace.  Some of you have written about laces that  disappeared in the 
washing process.  Perhaps the lace threads had silk  content   Even a little 
silk 
combined with cotton would have  weakened the lace if one decided to wash in 
chlorine bleach.  Many of  you are using modern threads spun of 
combinations of fibers.   Keep this warning in mind when selecting threads.
 
Read my Arachne conservation memos for the impact of bleaches of  different 
chemicals that could inter-act and turn laces a terrible acid  yellow, and 
you'll settle for a nice ecru or creamy colored lace that can be  achieved 
by simply soaking in distilled water and a little Orvus  soap.  This soak can 
lighten textiles that were dipped in tea.
 
http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/index.html 
 
Alternative method of making lacy textiles:  A coarse-woven white  fabric 
that is sold by the yard (I've forgotten the commercial name of  it) on which 
one may embroider by hand or sewing machine (favored by  artists and modern 
stitchers).  It looks somewhat like highly-starched  cheesecloth.  I bought 
some in England in the 1970s.  Again,  your stitch fibers must lock into 
one another.  And, if I remember  correctly, in this case you put the finished 
product on an ironing board  wrong-side-up, and press with a hot iron.  The 
backing crumbles and falls  away from the stitching.  A bit messy.  But, a 
safe product for  work done at home or in a private embroidery studio.  No 
dangerous  chemicals are involved.
 
Please print this information and save in your lace conservation  binder.
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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Subject: Re: [lace] Lace poppies

2013-11-08 Thread Janice Blair
Hi David,
Sue is going to send you a copy, and she may have already done so.
 I get the digest so am always late with items.  I had lost my file and she
kindly sent me a copy.  It was designed for the IOLI convention way back in
2008, so probably 2007.  I may have it filed in my old convention folders
rather than my lace designs.  Sue is more organized than me. :-)
Janice
>Sue,

I think this might be a pricking I need, as I don't have one yet.
Tell
how Janice.
thanks
David in Ballarat, AUS

 
Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50
miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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[lace] Irish lace

2013-11-08 Thread Lorelei Halley
I agree that it is chemical lace.  Even the placemats under "Irish lace" are
chemical lace.
Lorelei

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Re: [lace] lace identification please

2013-11-08 Thread Sue
I have to say i wasn't thinking it was hand made so where did the hand 
finished come in.  Thank you for clearing that one up.  They are pretty 
though and of course friends see lace and think of me:-)  Nice of them.


It's definitely chemical lace, but I suppose that snipping the motifs apart 
using scissors would make it "hand finished".



Sent from Brenda's iPad

It looks very much like Chemical Lace to me and certainly not hand made! 


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RE: [lace] lace identification please

2013-11-08 Thread Diane Z
I couldn't get the web site to enlarge the photos of the coasters from the
thumbnails, but it does look like Carickmacross lace.  Carickmacross is an
Irish lace embroidered on tulle. It is fast and easy and is worked on a pad
of cloth held in the hand so can be carried anywhere.  It also had endless
stitch possibilities.  You can see it on
lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/ID/CarrickmacrossID.html
I'm sure there are some instructions in the web and some of the instruction
booklets are inexpensive.

Diane Z
Lubec, Maine, USA

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Re: [lace] lace identification please

2013-11-08 Thread Brenda Paternoster
It's definitely chemical lace, but I suppose that snipping the motifs apart 
using scissors would make it "hand finished".


Sent from Brenda's iPad

> It looks very much like Chemical Lace to me and certainly not hand made! 

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[lace] North Cheshire Lacemakers Lace Day Nov. 9 (England)

2013-11-08 Thread Jeriames
Re:  Bookcases to Bobbins" talk on Nov. 9th. 
A notice of this lace day came in from Lace News, and the  speaker is given 
as Graham Hundson.  Sounds like a topic of interest, so  I'm asking if 
someone attending would write a paragraph or more about the talk  for us, or 
obtain something he may have written about the talk for the program  organizer 
and send that to Arachne.  Many thanks. 

Jeri Ames in Maine USA 

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Re: [lace] lace identification please

2013-11-08 Thread Ilske Thomsen
This is a sort of chemical lace - embroidery as they made in Vogtland, 
Erzgebirge and in Switzerland.

Ilske

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Re: [lace] lace identification please

2013-11-08 Thread Catherine Barley

Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com
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Subject: [lace] lace identification please



A friend brought me this item just as its shown in the link below.  It is
Irish lace and needle work rather than other lace work.
>
http://www.grangecraft.com/product_info.php?prod_id=29


Hi Sue

It looks very much like Chemical Lace to me and certainly not hand made! 
What do others think it is?


Catherine Barley
UK 


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Re: [lace] more on books

2013-11-08 Thread Sue Harvey
Reference the Lace Guild , they also have second hand books on all types of 
lace, well worth looking at if you are seeking a particular book.

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk
U.K.

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Re: [lace] lace identification please

2013-11-08 Thread Clay Blackwell
I believe this is a form if machine lace called "chemical lace".  It was 
embroidered by machine on a fabric which was then dissolved away by chemicals.

Clay

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:51 AM, "Sue"  wrote:
> 
> 
> I wonder if one of you experienced spiders would pin it down to whatever type
> you believe it to be.  It mentions embroiderers and also that it is Hand
> Finished lace made on traditional embroidery frames (so does that mean pure
> embroidery?
> 
> http://www.grangecraft.com/product_info.php?prod_id=29
> 
> Sue T
> Dorset UK
> 

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[lace] lace identification please

2013-11-08 Thread Sue
A friend brought me this item just as its shown in the link below.  It is
Irish lace and needle work rather than other lace work.
I wonder if one of you experienced spiders would pin it down to whatever type
you believe it to be.  It mentions embroiderers and also that it is Hand
Finished lace made on traditional embroidery frames (so does that mean pure
embroidery?

http://www.grangecraft.com/product_info.php?prod_id=29

Sue T
Dorset UK

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Re: [lace] sad news

2013-11-08 Thread Susie Johnson

Sister Judith .her lace, Withof, will live on.


Thank you, Anneke, for sharing this sad news with the world.  Sr Judith 
was an amazing person who led an incredible life as Anneke has 
chronicled in her biography.  She was truly gifted as a teacher, 
lacemaker and designer.  Her designs and techniques have provided 
inspiration to thousands of lacemakers.  She had the ability to teach 
you to "think lace".  I am very grateful to have had the opportunity to 
meet her and to study with her.  Anneke is right - she will live on 
through the legacy of her Withof lace.  It is a gift she has left to all 
of us.


Susie Johnson
in southwest Pennsylvania, USA

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Re: [lace] Lace poppies

2013-11-08 Thread David C COLLYER

Sue,


I think this might be a pricking I need, as I don't have one yet.
Tell how Janice.
thanks
David in Ballarat, AUS


The other day I pinned my lace poppy to my coat in advance of remembrance
sunday and has already been admired by a couple of ladies working in our local
shops.
Just thought I would say thank you again to Janice Blair for her gift of the
pattern so we could make them and I continue to wear it every year as well as
putting money in tins obviously.
I wonder how many others still wear their lace poppy.
Sue T


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[lace] What kind of lace is it? Interwoven Globe at the NY Metropolitan

2013-11-08 Thread Lyn Bailey
The Interwoven Globe exhibit at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York 
is amazing.  I was there on Wednesday, November 6.  It’s a 6 hour round trip 
train ride from my home.  We were fascinated.  If you go, don’t plan on 
doing much else at the museum, you’ll be museumed out when you’re done.  We 
spent at least 3 hours at the exhibit, and it’s dense.  But absolutely 
fascinating.  I have the catalog, which is great if you can’t get there, but 
seeing the exhibit is much, much better, as many times you can get very 
close, and see the stitched repairs, or other little things, or the whole 
thing, which makes a great impact.  Or see the connections among what is in 
a particular room.  If you can go, do so, you won’t regret it.  It’s on 
until January 5, 2014.  Don’t forget that the admission 
prices/donations/fees are suggestions, and not required.  You can pay less 
or more, as your heart desires.


The lace of # 80 in the catalog is not in the exhibit, sad to say.  BUT, 
there is lace there.  Trimmings on 2 dresses, # 82 in the catalog, which 
only shows the back, and # 83 in the catalog, which shows the lace, but not 
up close.  The lace in both is definitely part of the original, as the lace 
in both is decorated with the trim of the dress fabric.  Pictures are not 
allowed, so I had to wait until not attendants were around, used no flash, 
and I couldn’t get very close.  Now I realize I should have used zoom, but I 
didn’t.  So what you see is what you get.  Both dresses and the trim are 
similar, but one (# 83) has lace that looks distinctly like a trellis 
pattern, and I have never seen lace like it. It almost looks like a chain 
stitch, but it is not embroidered.  The lace on the top of the stomacher is 
gathered, and I have no idea what it is.  The lace on # 82 looks much more 
like lace but I have not seen its like, but that’s not saying much.  While 
the fabric for both was manufactured 1735-40, #82 was actually made in 1770. 
Apparently # 83 was made in 1740.  I have uploaded the pictures onto flickr, 
they are both in my folder as well.  I hope they can be magnified on your 
computer, so you can have a good look at it.


Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where it is colder this morning, 34F 
1C, but brightly sunny.  They're talking snow for next week. 


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Re: [lace] more on books

2013-11-08 Thread nestalace . carol
Hi Sharon and Spiders All,
 
Another good source of reviews is the Lace Guild's publication, Lace - their 
books are reviewed by lacemakers - members of the Lace Guild usually - so are 
sometimes a bit later than those on the blurb on the covers, but I trust them 
implicitly.   It isn't only bobbin lace that is treviewed either - knitted, 
tatted etc all get their fair share, and I do consider the subs to the Lace 
Guild money *very* well spent!
 
Carol - in North Norfolk UK.
'Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day.'




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