RE: [lace] Blue film
Hi It is not always necessary to use blue film on a pricking. I photocopy onto blue card and do not cover it with film. I find the film too shinny when making lace. The photocopy ink does not come off onto the lace. Most English General Suppliers sell the blue film so if you do need it why not as a group get together and contact one of them to send it over. Corinne Jones in damp Brighton UK -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Bev Walker Sent: 19 November 2013 23:11 To: Angel Skubic Cc: Dmt11home; Arachne Subject: Re: [lace] Blue film Could you photocopy the pricking on blue paper, and cover with the clear film? I too have used the highlighter method to make my pattern colored but would prefer blue film... FWIW I don't care for the blue film at all, and usually work on a white paper pricking that I've covered with matte magic tape,. Though I mostly use coloured threads, I do this for white thread, too (for Honiton where I work on firm brown card). Bev in Shirley BC on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of BC Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Blue film
Dear Friends, It is not always necessary to use blue film on a pricking. I photocopy onto blue card and do not cover it with film. I find the film too shiney when making lace. I have always bought the cheap shiney blue film from the newsagents or the Reject Shop for about AUD $1 a roll. These days I often forget to treat the shininess. However, if it worries you, it can be removed in about 20 seconds by simply scrubbing with a brand new dishwashing scouring pad. David in Ballarat, AUS - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Blue film
Apparently blue film is widely available in England. Here it is totally unavailable from all but a single supplier who does not sell it by the roll, but rather in small pieces. I am grateful that the supplier does, in fact, go to a lot of effort to buy this film from England, as it seems that it is impossible to get without sending funds overseas, and contending with the intricacies of the VAT system. But, the question arises as to why it is still the norm in classes in the US for the teacher to arrive with the patterns printed on white paper, rather than on blue paper, since at home we are all responding to the unavailability of blue film by photo copying the pattern onto blue paper or card, which is laughably easy and cheap. The only time I need the blue film is when I go to a class. When something is unavailable, people switch to other things instead. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Blue film
Wouldn't it be simpler in the USA simply to persuade the teacher to print the pattern on blue paper or card, and then you could use clear film? My personal preference when working with white thread is orange card. I've been converted! Sue Babbs (in Northfield, IL) suebabbs...@gmail.com -Original Message- - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Blue film
I agree with Devon that copying the pricking onto colored card is a good approach, but will only work if your printer doesn't chew up the card, or if you can convince the local Staples store that you aren't infringing on copyright when you want something copied when it has a copyright mark on it (like many lace patterns). I have explained, in vain, that it is for personal use, but it seems to fall on deaf ears. If you chose to use colored paper instead, it should ideally also be stiffened - especially if the pricking is intended for more than one use. If you order something from the EU to ship to the US you should not be charged VAT. In fact, SMP Lace states quite clearly on their website that they do not charge VAT to anyone outside the EU, which equates to a savings of approx. 16.67%. In addition, there is no surcharge if you use VISA , Mastercard or AMEX. Overseas orders up to 2 kg (approx. 4.5 lbs) are sent airmail (which will cost around GBP 18.00). Alternatives do exist, but I will stick (pun intended) with the blue film Jill, Milton Keynes, Bucks On 20 November 2013 at 14:36 dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: Apparently blue film is widely available in England. Here it is totally unavailable from all but a single supplier who does not sell it by the roll, but rather in small pieces. I am grateful that the supplier does, in fact, go to a lot of effort to buy this film from England, as it seems that it is impossible to get without sending funds overseas, and contending with the intricacies of the VAT system. But, the question arises as to why it is still the norm in classes in the US for the teacher to arrive with the patterns printed on white paper, rather than on blue paper, since at home we are all responding to the unavailability of blue film by photo copying the pattern onto blue paper or card, which is laughably easy and cheap. The only time I need the blue film is when I go to a class. When something is unavailable, people switch to other things instead. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Blue film
My printer doesn't chew up card and I have never had an argument about copyright in a copy center in the US. But, I haven't visited a copy center in about 15 years because excellent home printers are widely available in the US, whereas blue film is as rare and costly as Beluga caviar. If the patterns were to be routinely copied onto a pale blue paper the same color as blue film, students in the US could put the blue paper pattern on a card, say an old file folder, and then cover it with the clear matte film that is sold at Ace Hardware. One can buy a roll of clear matte film large enough to last you the rest of your life for $5. Why should it be routine in the US to expect everyone to arrive at a class with a product that is not sold in the US? Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Blue film
This is the way it has always been done in South Africa and I always thought it was standard pratice!!! I have actually changed to orange paper after seeing all the Spanish lacemakers working on orange background and the threads are more visible. Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa. If the patterns were to be routinely copied onto a pale blue paper the same color as blue film, students in the US could put the blue paper pattern on a card, say an old file folder, and then cover it with the clear matte film that is sold at Ace Hardware. One can buy a roll of clear matte film large enough to last you the rest of your life for $5. Why should it be routine in the US to expect everyone to arrive at a class with a product that is not sold in the US? Devon - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Blue film
It seems like the way to resolve this is to get the teachers to change their habits. Jill - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Blue film
Surely a tutor should have a supply of this blue film available for students to purchase from her if she expects them to use it, knowing that it is not available in the US. From whom and where does she purchase her own supplies? Catherine Barley UK Catherine Barley Needlelace www.catherinebarley.com Subject: RE: Blue film Why should it be routine in the US to expect everyone to arrive at a class with a product that is not sold in the US? Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Blue film
In Spain it is also difficult to find blue film. It is sold in lace meetings and is very expensive. I also agree with Devon that we should print on blue paper. It is easy to print the pattern in our home printer. We do not need to print on cardboard, because we can put cardboard under the blue photocopy tp have the pattern hard. That is how I usually work. I never use orange paper, because it is not relaxing for the eyes. Although it was common practice in many parts of Spain, now you can find many lacemakers using blue. Best wishes, Antje González, from Spain. www.vueltaycruz.es Antje *Por muy larga que sea la tormenta, siempre acabará saliendo el sol. * 2013/11/20 Jill Hawkins j...@myhawkins.co.uk It seems like the way to resolve this is to get the teachers to change their habits. Jill - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Blue film
Hi, Blue film is readily available in the US. The major lace suppliers all carry it. If you want a size different from the pre-cut size, most of them will happily sell you whatever size piece you want. Â The price is higher than it used to be because of the cost of postage from Europe to the US. Â The company that used to import the Form X film stopped doing so about 10 years ago when demand dropped as the graphic arts industry began digitizing. Susie Johnson In southwestern Pennsylvania Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Blue film - or not!
There is no absolute rule that you have to use blue film! I gave up years ago, and went back to the traditional method of pricking the pattern onto (glazed manilla) pricking card, then marking in the pattern markings I need (and after a few years' experience you don't need to mark everything, you learn to read the pattern from the pinhole pattern) - eg the first couple of lines of a trail or diamond to show direction, the corner crosses of roseground, with a waterproof pen. It saves money for those already using card because you are not having to pay for the film - you can spend that on thread or bobbins instead. It saves getting small amounts of adhesive on your pins. Blue film is a modern invention as far as lace is concerned; the old ways are just as good, and provide much firmer prickings than film stuck over paper! Traditional Honiton patterns have no ink markings at all, there is a pinhole code (eg 2 closely spaced pinholes in the middle of an area denote half stitch) to show the stitches. There is also no real reason why you can't work with a white pattern covered in clear matt film (especially if you are working with coloured thread, or want to print out your pattern markings in colour) - this is sold in do-it-yourself/decorating shops to stick on windows, and is often on the same rack as the shelf covering - which I think is called Contact in the States. Fablon is a UK brand name. In fact, for those in the UK, it is worth looking in Wilkos as they have started doing the coloured matt films as well as clear - I think they are 1m rolls. Our Co-op sells the clear matt film by the metre. -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Blue film
Susie writes: The company that used to import the Form X film stopped doing so about 10 years ago when demand dropped as the graphic arts industry began digitizing. From that I conclude that about 10 years ago it became so easy to print things on colored paper in the US that it didn't make any sense to use colored film. I don't consider an item to be readily available if you have to buy it from a lace supply business, of which there are very few in the US, usually mail order businesses. In contrast the local Staples has boxes of colored paper and card piled up to the rafters. I don't mind buying fine thread, books and patterns at lace supply businesses, but it seems a little anachronistic that we all have to buy imported blue film because, historically, it used to be hard to copy things on colored paper. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] From my WeaveTech list
A single thread wrapped around thousands of nails. Talk about your string art! Cynthia http://twistedsifter.com/2013/11/single-thread-wrapped-around-thousands-of-na ils-kumi-yamashita/ On display at National Portrait Gallery in DC. It's mind-blowing! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Blue film
I noticed it listed as a lace supply on the Kenmare lace website yesterday. You might want to check it out. Sherry New York, USA Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Re: glazed cardboard
Hello Barbara and everyone You might have another name for it in Australia, where the card is made very smooth by a coating in the milling/finishing process. I have some firm pricking card from a lace supplier in the UK, via card for UK electrical use. I don't know if that is also known as 'glazed card' though. It works a treat for Honiton. Otherwise I use any firm paper or card at hand. Plain scrapbooking cardstock is good, or just the computer paper I made the pattern copy on. The project at present, Torchon bookmarks times 9, has reached the 6th use on the paper and matte tape pricking - working on a very firm cookie pillow helps keep the paper pricking from becoming tattered. I can easily make another anyway. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:28 AM, stoke...@westserv.net.au wrote: Dear Lacemakers, Re: pricking card- how can one make glazed card for prickings? Is glazed card just card covered with a glue? Bye Barbara from Parkes, Australia -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Re: glazed cardboard
Glazed pricking card is available in Australia from Joscolace - and, contrary to the rumours which have been flying around all year, Joanne is not closing her business!! Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Bev Walker Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013 6:55 AM To: Barbara H Stokes Cc: Arachne arachne Subject: Re: [lace] Re: glazed cardboard Hello Barbara and everyone You might have another name for it in Australia, where the card is made very smooth by a coating in the milling/finishing process. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Blue film
Hi All, Someone gave me a pad with lots of different colours in it. I have successfully used this paper with pattern copied on to it and then laminated. Have a machine left over from my Guide Leader days. Laminating pouches are available in Stationery stores and the Post Office in Australia and they come in A3, A4, and one smaller size. It is a good idea to do a whole A4 sheet at the same time - not difficult for me. Mary Carey Campbelltown, NSW, Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] progress-was blue film
Karen, Your students must be very grateful that they don't have to carry card, paper scissors and rare, expensive, imported, blue Contact paper to class, and then spend valuable class time cutting and sticking their patterns. Actually this is a return to the traditional way of doing things. When I started making lace in the 1970s my teacher pricked each pattern, several at a time, on a heavy tan card, inscribing the gimp line with in water proof ink with a fountain pen, and charged the student for the pricking. Photocopying and blue film freed the teacher from this time consuming process. We welcomed progress then. But now... Imagine if you were trying to interest a young person in taking up lacemaking, and you had to explain that a necessary prerequisite is to buy an extremely rare blue contact paper, imported from England costing $4.50 for a piece 15 x 16 to turn a single piece of white paper blue and stick it to a piece of card, thus simulating the effect of printing the pattern on a blue card. What do you think would be their reaction? In fact, try explaining this to your husband, and see what his reaction is :-) Since it would appear that Alice in Oregon's group is in the unenviable position of having to obtain a new roll of blue film to divide among themselves, now that the good Samaritan in Europe is no longer able to facilitate that process, perhaps they should lead the way by buying a package of blue paper (or card) at Staples and urging their teachers to use it for patterns. They could also buy a roll of clear matte film at Ace Hardware, if they want to divide it, although in that a roll of this costs about as much as a small piece of blue film, it would hardly seem to be worth the effort. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] progress-was blue film
Walmart also carries the matte clear contact paper for under $5 a roll which will last years. Hugs, Lin and the Mali *I just realized I am so old, I have forgotten I have been there and done that.* - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] progress-was blue film
When I first began making lace I experimented with a lot of materials. I have a very hard time looking at certain colors without developing a headache, so tried darker shades of green, blue and even red. During this time I decided to try the clear contact paper. I found that it leaves residue on the pins and gets them all sticky. Do others have this trouble? I have always wondered if it could have something to do with climate and humidity. More importantly, does anyone know a product that does not do this? When I teach wire classes I recommend blue film, but I also carry some for anyone that does not have it. I am all for moving to clear if there is a way around the stickiness issue. Kim On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Lin Hudren linhud...@gmail.com wrote: Walmart also carries the matte clear contact paper for under $5 a roll which will last years. Hugs, Lin and the Mali *I just realized I am so old, I have forgotten I have been there and done that.* - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Blue film
Could you photocopy the pricking on blue paper, and cover with the clear film? I have a home printer that will not feed heavy paper, let alone cardstock. Not a problem. I print out on regular-weight paper in the colour of my choice, then cut a piece of thin card (manila folders are good) that is a bit larger than the pattern. I cut the pattern out of the coloured paper and then I put that on top of the thin card and then I stick a piece of clear film over the whole thing. As the adhesive film covers both the paper and the card (which is larger), it holds the whole sandwich together. I have never had a problem with this moving. I have not had a problem with the adhesive making the pins gummy - that may be because I pre-prick. Sometimes the pricker gets gummy, but if that gets to be a problem I just plunge the pricker into an emery strawberry to clean it, or else I scrub it lightly with steel wool. Lighter fluid also works. Another trick - if you're stuck with a pattern copied onto white paper and you don't like film, is to put coloured tissue paper over top of the paper pattern over top of the cardboard. If these are pinned well together onto the pillow, or if they are glued together in the margins (I'm thinking common household glue here), they should not move. Hope this helps. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
