Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto
Good photo, this is a rigid heddle loom. A drawback to this device is abrasion on the threads. Short lengths of tape/weaving/cord/lace/bands whatever to call the smallwares, would be strong and possibly quite thick in proportion to their width. Something else to think about, in the time period of the subject, 17th century, the threads would have been handspun, and for fineness, likely single ply. If linen, they could be 'dressed' with linen gel as a starch for strength in weaving on a loom; used undressed, or unstarched, firmly spun, for bobbin lace. To anyone who knows, are the tapes in question related to Venetian cord? On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Shelly wrote: > I wonder if these were made on a tape loom. I had the opportunity to get > a photo of one at a historical site a few years ago : > http://www.flickr.com/photos/8617487@N08/3690979159/in/set- > 72157621006080174/ > It would make sense that it was made on a loom instead of by bobbins. > -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] The Lace Place
www.waverock.com.au/lace.htm provides a brief description of the Lace Place in Hyden which I visited a few years ago to see the Irish crochet lace collection. It is well worth a visit and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It is not well known in the tourist industry and I needed help to find out about the bus service. It is a considerable distance from Perth. The small town and the people were delightful. The part time curator, Olwyn Scott is a remarkable lacemaker and a wonderful guide. Barbara Ballantyne in Sydney www.crochethistory.com -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Sue Harvey Sent: Monday, 25 November 2013 1:33 AM To: Lace@Arachne. Com Subject: [lace] The Lace Place Hi to Australian Lacemakers, my son has just returned from a tour of Australia mainly out of Perth. On his trip he came across a shop called The Lace Place in small town called Hyden. he went in because he knew how I liked lace and was surprised to find it was like a little museum of lace from 1650 onwards. He brought me back a leaflet describing the shop and museum but unfortunately although I emailed them to see if they had a website my email was returned as undeliverable. Have any of you visited? Sue M Harvey Norfolk U.K. Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto
I wonder if these were made on a tape loom. I had the opportunity to get a photo of one at a historical site a few years ago : http://www.flickr.com/photos/8617487@N08/3690979159/in/set-72157621006080174/ It would make sense that it was made on a loom instead of by bobbins. Also, it makes me wonder about the Russian tape laces and various other ones that exist... off to do research. Shell On 11/23/2013 2:38 PM, jeria...@aol.com wrote: Dear Devon, Where to start on this one!? Not everyone uses the term Mezzo Punto, for example. You might like to reference my 2-volume 1913 set of "Old Italian Lace" by Eliza Ricci. Volume II is about Bobbin Laces, and though she does not ever use the term "Mezzo Punto", you might see more examples of tapes from different collections. Milanese starts on page 155. On page 156 is mentioned a tape made with 2 bobbins. We know you can make lace with 2 pairs of bobbins (In Gil Dye's new book "Surface Decoration in Silk and Metallic Laces" and in Tamara Duvall's "Two-Pair Variations), but 2 bobbins? A fascinating subject to research. In the following chapter about Abruzzi (Southern Italy), you might like to view the illustration on page 228. In the text I found a reference to making lace with thousands of bobbins (p. 223-4), another reference of children scarce 2 years old instinctively twisting 3 or 4 threads (p. 226), and on the same page the words that a lace maker of Pescocostanzo is able to draw with her bobbins and pins. (No pattern or striped fabric on her pillow.) This relates to an Arachne subject of the past few days. These 2 books were scanned by Tess into the Professor's site: http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/lace.html When you read the address you are reminded that he started with a site for weavers. There are many more weavers in the world. Being able to share the University of Arizona site with weavers is a gift of great value, because out-of-print books are extremely costly. Devon, do you know any weaving scholars doing identification at major museum collections? I should think they might add an interesting twist to your research. At the least, you might look to see what books are in the weaving section of the Professor's site. Everyone: If you would like to learn about lace makers who came before us, I recommend the Eliza Ricci books. They are written in a charming style, like books that belonged to our grandmothers. Not over- burdened with footnotes and extraneous credits to others. A chapter a day may be quite manageable and interesting. Makes you proud to be carrying on the tradition of lace making. It is rare to find Italian lace history in English, which is why Tess spent so much time scanning these books for you. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center In a message dated 11/23/2013 7:58:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, dmt11h...@aol.com writes: In the 17th century there were laces made from premade tapes. When the tapes go around a curve they are gathered, or turned over..they were not made with bobbins on a pillow with the patten on it, in which case the maker would have shaped the tape Does anyone know how or where these tapes were produced? Were they produced on a little loom, like a ribbon loom? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] The Lace Place
Thank you Ruth for all that information. I had an email from Shirley Meier about The Lace Place and checked it out, they do have a small site online it just made me wish even more that it was me that holidayed in Australia and not my son. Him and his wife had a wonderful time over there and have brought back lots of things including some very nice Aborigine designed table mats for me. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK Sent from my iPad >> >> - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes mezzo punto
I realize that this is not a good example because the photography does not allow you to see the transitions. I also realize I have some photos of privately owned pieces that I could post on one of the Ning sites. (Sorry, have never gotten the hang of the arachne flicker site.) What group do you think I should post it in? Devon In a message dated 11/24/2013 4:14:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lhal...@bytemeusa.com writes: Devon: These are the thoughts and questions that spring to mind upon looking at your example. 1st: I did see several Genoese early laces at the Art Institute of Chicago which had what looked like continuous tallies, made with more than 2 pairs. In the photo you have showed us there is too much light and I can't see the construction too well. Perhaps you can look at the original and see if it might be a bobbin made structure of a continuous tally with 3 or more pairs.. 2nd: in the flower the tape changes from solid to openwork for a few petals. Can you tell if the solid tape is cut, or is it continuous with the openwork tape? If continuous (if a single tape has 2 different working methods) with no break, cut or seam, that would suggest bobbin made. Changing stitches is easy in bobbin lace. Is it even possible to change from solid to openwork on an inkle loom? Can such a loom produce what looks like ctct? If it was made with bobbins it could have been made on the pillow instead of as a straight tape, because the worker would have to know exactly where to change stitches. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] pinterest board
Good idea, Laurie! I have had some contacts ask for conservators and appraisers, and was never able to make suggestions. I'm sure you'll find some, somewhere. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] 17th c. premade tapes mezzo punto
Devon: These are the thoughts and questions that spring to mind upon looking at your example. 1st: I did see several Genoese early laces at the Art Institute of Chicago which had what looked like continuous tallies, made with more than 2 pairs. In the photo you have showed us there is too much light and I can't see the construction too well. Perhaps you can look at the original and see if it might be a bobbin made structure of a continuous tally with 3 or more pairs.. 2nd: in the flower the tape changes from solid to openwork for a few petals. Can you tell if the solid tape is cut, or is it continuous with the openwork tape? If continuous (if a single tape has 2 different working methods) with no break, cut or seam, that would suggest bobbin made. Changing stitches is easy in bobbin lace. Is it even possible to change from solid to openwork on an inkle loom? Can such a loom produce what looks like ctct? If it was made with bobbins it could have been made on the pillow instead of as a straight tape, because the worker would have to know exactly where to change stitches. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto-ribbon loom?
Weaver here, and one who works with band looms and historic techniques. The older term for ribbon comes from its woven structure rib band, so you might also see the spelling ribband in the older references. These bands were often woven with a close-set warp and a weft thats pulled tight, giving a ribbed appearance to the surface of the band, hence the name. The picture under discussion looks to me to be a simple tape, woven in a pretty much balanced weave, of the kind that would be woven on a basic tape loom or with a backstrap set up (not an inkle loom in the modern sense; thats a more recent style of loom, although the structure of the tape produced would be pretty much the same). These types of tapes would be used for almost anything requiring ties or laces in the household, so most households would have had some means of producing it. Katrina Worley kwor...@mac.com -- History: special people in special places at special times Anthropology: everyone else the rest of the time. K.Worley, 1997 On Nov 24, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Annette Meldrum wrote: > No I did not find any references to ribbon but it is another interesting > crossover. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] The Lace Place
The Lace Place is located in the Tourist Centre at Wave Rock, Hyden. Hyden is approx. 400 kms from Perth.The original collection belonged to one of the leading ladies in Perth many years ago and I believe the lace was taken to Hyden by a relative after her death. A couple of months ago, we (the now-retired National Administrative Committee of the Australian Guild) were pleased to award life membership of the Guild to Olwyn Scott, who is the curator of the collection. Olwyn has added to the collection over the years, driving the long distance between her home in Perth and Hyden to undertake the continuing work there. Olwyn doesn't own a computer, so I doubt that she'd think of a website! I've just received a long letter from Olwyn, so am about to phone her to reply.I'll read your email to her and see what other information I can find out for you. Last time I was in Western Australia, I had my ailing husband with me and the journey was just too far under the circumstances, so I haven't visited yet. Ruth thelacema...@optusnet.com.au On 25/11/2013, at 1:32 AM, Sue Harvey <2harv...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > He brought me back a leaflet describing the shop and museum but unfortunately > although I emailed them to see if they had a website my email was returned as > undeliverable. Have any of you visited? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto-ribbon loom?
No I did not find any references to ribbon but it is another interesting crossover. Annette in Wollongong, Australia -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of dmt11h...@aol.com Sent: Monday, 25 November 2013 1:50 AM To: ameld...@ozemail.com.au; lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto-ribbon loom? Thanks Annette. This is very helpful. There seems to have been something called a ribbon loom which could weave multiple narrow ribbons simultaneously. There are some photos of the loom on the site of the Comines Ribbon Industry Museum http://ribbonindustrymuseum.wordpress.com/ I wonder if "ribbon" is the key word for this question. Did you run across anything like this in your research on the Borris Lace. (I have the book.) Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto
The tapes in question do not have a sewing edge as in a twist, twist, whole stitch, twist, twist. There are no spaces. They are solid like a shoe lace. Some are woven perpendicularly. Some appear to be woven diagonally. If you look at the piece, 88.2.7 on the museum site, a piece said to date from 1625-1650, http://www.metmuseum.org/Collections/search-the-collections/212557?rpp=20&pg =1&ao=on&ft=88.2.7&pos=1#fullscreen enlarge it and look at the very far right hand side, you can see a raveling that looks like one thread being raveled the way a ribbon would ravel. It doesn't look like a double weft as you would have in linen stitch, although it could be made like a talley, but in my opinion, more easily on a loom. Unfortunately it is not a very good picture. . Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto
The tape lace discussion is most interesting. In further erudition, 'inkle' means small; having made inkle tapes on the associated contraption, I don't see how the sewing edge can be achieved, as in bobbin lace. The warp threads on the inkle loom can only be of a given length, whereas with bobbin lace one can add threads indefinitely, and practically invisibly. I think the pre-made tapes were made by the bobbin lace method by people whose skills and time available were conducive to doing so, back when. On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 4:50 AM, Lyn Bailey wrote: > By now I should not be amazed by the amount of collective erudition there > is in Arachne, but this discussion is an example. One must also remember > the inkle loom, which is particularly good at making tapes of all kinds. > And the saying, from I forget where, "thick as inkle weavers" probably > because their looms are so narrow. I would imagine, speculatively, that > since one can do patterns on an inkle loom, 'inkle' meaning tape, that must > have been the preferred method, as I think we can agree that weaving is > faster than bobbin work. > > -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto-ribbon loom?
The thought of ribbon making came to me last night in bed. Coventry was a centre of ribbon making in England and the silk used was, in the 1800's was 'farmed' in the Cotswolds and the occupations of women and girls that I've come across in doing our family research shows that many were involved in the silk industry - unwinding the thread from the cocoons. Looking at the history of ribbon making shows that it goes back at least to the 11th century. Malvary in Ottawa where winter jumped in yesterday with snow and today it is -12c with windchill of -23c. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto-ribbon loom?
Thanks Annette. This is very helpful. There seems to have been something called a ribbon loom which could weave multiple narrow ribbons simultaneously. There are some photos of the loom on the site of the Comines Ribbon Industry Museum http://ribbonindustrymuseum.wordpress.com/ I wonder if "ribbon" is the key word for this question. Did you run across anything like this in your research on the Borris Lace. (I have the book.) Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] The Lace Place
Hi to Australian Lacemakers, my son has just returned from a tour of Australia mainly out of Perth. On his trip he came across a shop called The Lace Place in small town called Hyden. he went in because he knew how I liked lace and was surprised to find it was like a little museum of lace from 1650 onwards. He brought me back a leaflet describing the shop and museum but unfortunately although I emailed them to see if they had a website my email was returned as undeliverable. Have any of you visited? Sue M Harvey Norfolk U.K. Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto
By now I should not be amazed by the amount of collective erudition there is in Arachne, but this discussion is an example. One must also remember the inkle loom, which is particularly good at making tapes of all kinds. And the saying, from I forget where, "thick as inkle weavers" probably because their looms are so narrow. I would imagine, speculatively, that since one can do patterns on an inkle loom, 'inkle' meaning tape, that must have been the preferred method, as I think we can agree that weaving is faster than bobbin work. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where it is bright, chilly and windy, perfect for going to the Thanksgiving feast early at Youngest Child. My contribution is 2 apple pies and 2 pumpkin pies, and the wine. If you have Thanksgiving the Sunday before, you can invite friends and cousins who are going elsewhere on Thursday, AND you have all of Saturday to bake pies and bone the turkey. Annette wrote: I did some research into the early tapes for my book on Borris Lace. See p.14 Mezzo Punto was first employed by lacemakers in Milan and Genoa in the 17th century according to Mrs Head, The Lace and Embroidery Collector, 1922, p33. The manufacture of braids was an important craft in medieval Europe where they were produced in workshops and also made by noble women as a leisure activity. Crowfoot E. et al, Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450, Museum of London. 2008 p.130 I also found references to loom-woven linen tape produced in Holland prior to 1885. Caulfield & Saward, A dictionary of needlework, 1885 p.472 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Copying lace prickings
One thing the discussions of this - using heelball, pricking through original prickings etc - makes very clear that the photocopiers we now take for granted are a very modern invention, and most of us can remember when they were unreliable - distorted, shrunk patterns on odd shiney paper that disappeared after a while in sunlight. This I think is yet another thing we need to bear in mind when considering how lacemakers of old worked. I started when the best way of making an accurate pricking was meant to be working on graph paper, using one and a half squares (or whatever) one way, and one the other to get a Bucks grid - and that relied on accurate graph paper, and indeed cheap paper, itself not available in the early days of lacemaking. With all these problems in reproducing patterns, freehand lace may well have continued longer and into more elaborate patterns than we consider practical, and to me, it seems quite unlikely that "working diagrams" or similar would be readily available when the workers would have found it hard enough to get accurate patterns; a piece of worked lace would probably be the most practical way of letting someone know what to produce. It would be fascinating to know how the designs were first turned into lace, and what knowledge the designer, pricker and maker had of each others' skills. leonard...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Bobbin made tape and Pricking
There is a type of lace in Malta, examples of which can still be seen in convents, which is called 'Trina' and which was made using a bobbin-made tape and needlelace fillings. Early examples use bobbin-made tape, later ones use machine-made tape. Weaving was a very common occupation here but I have seen few examples of Trina with woven tape. The tape was usually made using 4-6 pairs, depending on the width of the tape required, in complete lengths, as was much edging lace in those days, and cut to the size required, so any shaping is done on the pattern. In fact, it was treated in exactly the same way as machine-made tape is used today. This type of lace lasted well into the last century but seems to have died out in the 1960's, except for the odd enthusiast. As far as I can tell from the samples I have seen it was made in whole stitch, (ctc) with a twist at the edges to allow for gathering where necessary for shaping. Sometimes a gathering thread was introduced, similar to the thicker thread on the edge of Luxeuil tape but in other cases it was gathered and oversewn as in Branscombe. Many of the items made in Trina are large, bedspread size, and must have taken months of work if not years. As far as pricking is concerned, Maltese lace patterns are pricked on the pillow, not prior to attaching to the pillow. Old original patterns were drawn on white paper using green or blue ink, depending on the designer. Occasionally they were drawn on black paper using white ink. They were copied on to anything handy by the lacemaker or, more commonly, by the dealer. Many old patterns can be found drawn on the equivalent of brown paper bags. Pricking is done on the pillow, as far as I can ascertain, to enable the same pinholes to be used over and over again as the work is lifted and turned. It certainly has that result. Remember we are talking about a bolster pillow, being used upright, as Karen says. So you lift for lengths and turn for corners; for circular objects you would spin the lace from the centre for each quadrant; for other shapes you would have half a pattern on one side of the pillow and its mirror image on the other and would move the lace backwards and forwards. This is still done today. The only reason for covering a pattern would be to protect the lace from whatever the pattern was drawn with, ink or pencil, and make it last a little longer or, more recently, for easing eye strain from working in bright sunlight. Most people now use green film, although pale blue is sometimes available, with a white waxy sticky backing, sometimes sold as Fablon, with the pattern between the two sheets. What was used before this was invented is anyone's guess. I, personally, have never had any problem with glue sticking to the pins, and I have never heard of anyone who did. Far more of a problem is the pins going rusty because of the humidity of the straw inside the pillow. Not all pillows are as hard as yours was, Janice. You were just unlucky enough to use part of a batch by a new supplier who used glue instead of flour and water paste to make the pillow. My friend had a similar one which she eventually took apart and remade from scratch using the proper materials. I read with interest the digests as they arrive but rarely have the opportunity to join in any discussion so it is nice to be able to contribute on this topic. Margaret on Gozo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto
Hi Devon and all. I did some research into the early tapes for my book on Borris Lace. See p.14 Mezzo Punto was first employed by lacemakers in Milan and Genoa in the 17th century according to Mrs Head, The Lace and Embroidery Collector, 1922, p33. The manufacture of braids was an important craft in medieval Europe where they were produced in workshops and also made by noble women as a leisure activity. Crowfoot E. et al, Textiles and Clothing 1150-1450, Museum of London. 2008 p.130 I also found references to loom-woven linen tape produced in Holland prior to 1885. Caulfield & Saward, A dictionary of needlework, 1885 p.472 I expect that the early tapes were produced by both loom and bobbins. An early piece of Borris lace in the National Museum of Ireland dated 1868 contains a thick but narrow tape which resembles a tightly woven shoe lace which I presume to have been made using a small loom similar to illustrations in Crowfoot where the tape produced resembles this shoelace style of tape. An interesting topic but much that is written seems to be conjecture. Unfortunately I haven't time at present to look up my research notes so have just referred to what is mentioned in my book. Regards Annette in Wollongong Australia. Devon wrote: In the 17th century there were laces made from premade tapes. The tapes were tacked onto a pattern and filled with often very beautiful and elaborate needle lace stitches. These tapes look to be of woven linen. I would think it would be much easier to make such tapes with a small loom. However, my colleague who weaves thinks it might be easier to make them with bobbins. P.S. In the 19th and early 20th century there were laces based on these early laces such as Battenburg lace that were quite popular. It is often the case that these are also called Mezzo Punto. In fact, it may be that only in the 19th century did they start to call the tape based laces of the 17th century Mezzo Punto, so this adds to the confusion. I am assuming that all the tapes in the 19th and 20th century were machine woven. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
