[lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

2014-01-31 Thread Jean Nathan
Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay. Bone,
turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas?
My first though was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be straight
across the middle and not dip in.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-or-Antique-Turned-Lace-Bobbin-/400656136511
?pt=UK_Crafts_Lace_Making_EThash=item5d48f7793f

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RE: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

2014-01-31 Thread Agnes Boddington
It says it has a hollow centre, so one must be able to open it: a needle
case?
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay.
Bone, turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any
ideas?
My first though was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be
straight across the middle and not dip in.


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Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

2014-01-31 Thread Karen Zammit Manduca
Looks (and sounds) more like a needle case to me.
Karen (currently in London)

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Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

2014-01-31 Thread Brian Lemin
If you want a non needlework tool suggestion, then a Knife Rest might fit 
the bill.  (Keep it off the table cloth!)\\\Oh well.


Brian

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Subject: RE: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

It says it has a hollow centre, so one must be able to open it: a needle
case?
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay.
Bone, turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any
ideas?
My first though was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be
straight across the middle and not dip in.


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Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

2014-01-31 Thread Ilske Thomsen
In my opinion it isn't a bobbin. I saw once a similar thing which was a needle 
case.

Ilske

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Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

2014-01-31 Thread J D Hammett

Hi Jean and fellow Arachnids,

The listing does not say 'lace bobbin' but just bobbin. that could mean for 
winding thread or even fishing lime on. The 'hollow centre; could mean the 
waisted area, one never knows what people who are not in the know will call 
things. It does not look as if it has an entry to the 'bobbin'. Also, from 
the one photo I think it is probably ivory rather than bone (it does not 
show the little black marks where the nerves etc. pass through the bone and 
does show some faint striations -as would be visible on ivory- on the lower 
part). I certainly would not bid on this without finding out more and 
getting further photographs from the vendor.


Happy lace making,

Joepie, in chilly and grey looking Sussex, UK




From: Jean Nathan

Subject: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay. 
Bone,

turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas?
My first though was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be 
straight

across the middle and not dip in.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-or-Antique-Turned-Lace-Bobbin-/400656136511
?pt=UK_Crafts_Lace_Making_EThash=item5d48f7793f

tinied:

http://tinyurl.com/nntydkv

Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

2014-01-31 Thread Karen Bovard
I saw the threaded ends and was wondering if the 'caps' were missingthus
it would be some sort of needlecase or thimble holder.  Just a guess.
 
Karen
Bovard
The ShuttleSmith
Omaha, Nebraska
http://www.theshuttlesmith.com/
Blog: 
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On Friday, January 31, 2014 7:56 AM,
J D Hammett jdhamm...@msn.com wrote:
  
Hi Jean and fellow Arachnids,

The
listing does not say 'lace bobbin' but just bobbin. that could mean for
winding thread or even fishing lime on. The 'hollow centre; could mean the
waisted area, one never knows what people who are not in the know will call
things. It does not look as if it has an entry to the 'bobbin'. Also, from
the one photo I think it is probably ivory rather than bone (it does not 
show
the little black marks where the nerves etc. pass through the bone and 
does
show some faint striations -as would be visible on ivory- on the lower 
part).
I certainly would not bid on this without finding out more and 
getting
further photographs from the vendor.

Happy lace making,

Joepie, in chilly
and grey looking Sussex, UK




From: Jean Nathan


Subject: [lace] Another
lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

Another I don't know what
it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay. 
Bone,
turned, around three and
a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas?
My first though was to
wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be 
straight
across the middle and
not dip in.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-or-Antique-Turned-Lace-Bobbin-/400656136511
?pt=UK_Crafts_Lace_Making_EThash=item5d48f7793f

tinied:
http://tinyurl.com/nntydkv

Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK

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RE: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

2014-01-31 Thread C Johnson
I have a similar piece that is used just to wind finished straight lace on
behind the pillow???

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-or-Antique-Turned-Lace-Bobbin-/40065613651
1
?pt=UK_Crafts_Lace_Making_EThash=item5d48f7793f

tinied:

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Susie
Morris, IL.

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Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

2014-01-31 Thread Adele Shaak
I think it's a bead. One of those long beads from when they used to cover doors 
with beaded curtains (very popular in the 60s)

The thin raised bands don't seem to spiral - they seem to be separate 
decorative elements.
It could be turned animal bone but it could also be bakelite/celluloid/plastic. 

Adele
West Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)

On 2014-01-30, at 11:56 PM, Jean Nathan wrote:

 Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay. Bone,
 turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any ideas?

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Re: [lace] oh no

2014-01-31 Thread J D Hammett

Hi Becca and other Arachnids,

Please can you tell us foreigners what   1.safety heels   2. bobby pins 
are. :-) Thank you very much.


Happy lace making.

Joepie, in East Sussex where it is raining yet again (we have to grow webbed 
feet and gills I think ;-D)




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Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 2:04 AM
To: lace
Subject: [lace] oh no

I remember a few weeks ago watching a demonstration on do a short row heel 
that involved safety heels and another one that used bobby pins.argh 
I can't find where I put it. Can anyone help me? please? It looked very easy 
and there did not seem to be holes and no awful wraps. Thank you if you can



Becca in snowy Utah

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Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

2014-01-31 Thread Cynce Williams
I keep forgetting reply all

It's definitely a knife rest. I remember them from my childhood--those and
food pushers.

Cynthia


On Jan 31, 2014, at 11:09 AM, Adele Shaak wrote:

 I think it's a bead. One of those long beads from when they used to cover
doors with beaded curtains (very popular in the 60s)

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[lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?‏

2014-01-31 Thread Jean Nathan
The title does say lace bobbin. The word lace is missing from the description.

I thought needle case, but with no ends, needles would fall out.

It's not clear if the grooves each end are a screw threads to take a screw on 
cap or just rings.

Rollers for lace don't usually dip in the middle.

Looks too new for animal ivory, but could be vegetable ivory. or as has been 
suggest some sort of plastic.

Used as a knife rest, it would roll.

My favourite suggest is a bead for a door curtain, but I'm not convinced about 
that.

Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK



  

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Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

2014-01-31 Thread Lesley Blackshaw
On 31/01/2014 13:31, J D Hammett wrote:
 
 The listing does not say 'lace bobbin' but just bobbin.

Are we looking at the same thing? The title says Vintage or Antique 
Turned Lace Bobbinand in the description: Welcome to my auction for an 
Antique or Vintage Turned Bobbin.The item appears to be made from turned 
animal bone with a hollow centre. Unusually large for a lace bobbin 

I have no idea what it might be, although it certainly could be used as 
a knife rest.  A more detailed description would help.

Lesley

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Re: [lace] oh no

2014-01-31 Thread Lesley Blackshaw

On 31/01/2014 17:41, J D Hammett wrote:


Please can you tell us foreigners what   1.safety heels   2. bobby 
pins are. :-)



Not a 'foreigner' but bobby pins are hair grips.  Dunno what safety 
heels are tho.


Lesley

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Re: [lace] oh no

2014-01-31 Thread J D Hammett

Hi,

Thank you Lesley.

Joepie.

-Original Message- 
From: Lesley Blackshaw 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 6:22 PM 
To: lace 
Subject: Re: [lace] oh no 


On 31/01/2014 17:41, J D Hammett wrote:


Please can you tell us foreigners what   1.safety heels   2. bobby 
pins are. :-)



Not a 'foreigner' but bobby pins are hair grips.  Dunno what safety 
heels are tho.


Lesley

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[lace] Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?‏

2014-01-31 Thread J D Hammett

Hi Jean,

Yes, the title does say lace bobbin, but the vendor doubts it with; 
Unusually large for a lace bobbin  . The grooves seem to be straight 
rather than slightly skewed as they would be as screw-threads. On a table 
cloth -possibly with an underlay which is soft- the item used as a knife 
rest would not roll. As you say: rollers do not usually dip in the middle. 
It could be plastic of some type, but would it be made as nicely? A door 
curtain? I cannot see an opening nor is there any damage where the beads 
would have 'clonked' against each other. And a starting bead of £4.99 seems 
rather steep for a bit of plastic.


Joepie, East Sussex


From: Jean Nathan

Subject: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?‏

The title does say lace bobbin. The word lace is missing from the 
description



.Used as a knife rest, it would roll.

My favourite suggest is a bead for a door curtain, but I'm not convinced 
about that.


Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

2014-01-31 Thread Jeriames
Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay.  
Bone,
turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre. Any  
ideas?
My first thought was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that would be  
straight
across the middle and not dip  in.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-or-Antique-Turned-Lace-Bobbin-/40065613651
1
?pt=UK_Crafts_Lace_Making_EThash=item5d48f7793f

tinied:  http://tinyurl.com/nntydkv Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset,  UK
---
From Jeri:  Here is an opportunity for one of our young  members to become 
our expert on lace tools!  Perhaps someone who  collects them.  (Did you 
read my memo yesterday about our need for  experts?)  All you require in this 
computerized world is the  ability to do research, and to ask the who? what? 
when? where? why?
 
While finishing up this reply (close to 3 hours of back and forth to my  
library, etc), Cynthia has weighed in that this is definitely a knife  rest.  
I'm releasing my memo anyway, because it teaches by example how  to ask 
questions, think, and eliminate unlikely possibilities.
 
I was looking at the one photo that comes up.  It does not  show the ends 
as being open like a bead, as one Arachne member has  written.  Before I read 
this bead possibility, I thought the  ends looked closed and smooth.  Here 
are my notes based on closed  ends.  I do not know how to recover the 
complete description some replies  have mentioned.  
 
Not like any needlework tool I remember in my books, and I've just  closely 
looked again at 5 of the best.  It has a slight  resemblance to a tool used 
for darning gloves.  But, for this purpose, why  are both ends the same?  
Why grooves that would snag?   Wouldn't points of needles damage the surface? 
 They rule this  purpose out, glass, metal or wood being more suitable as 
darners.   Glove darners usually have a long handle at one end, and a bulbous 
shape at the  darning end that stretched fabric so one could see what 
needed repair and held  the fabric so repairs could be done.  This looks to be 
the correct  size with the center narrowed area being what one would grip.  
Still,  why the grooves?  Why ivory/bone?  Why 2 darning ends?
 
As presented, it makes no sense as a spool.
 
If hollow, it seems very tightly shut at the points where parts meet,  
making it unsuitable for storing old needles.  If moisture got trapped  inside, 
needles might rust.  Still, this might be the  answer.  The 3 1/2 length is 
correct for this purpose, Agnes.
 
If this is as smooth as it appears, it could be used now to polish  lace - 
as lobster shells were once used.  Think of aficots used  by French lace 
makers to polish and remove small slubs from finished needle  lace.  But, it 
makes no sense for this ivory/bone implement to have  started out for this 
purpose.  The lace makers needing to polish their  laces were very poor, and 
smooth lobster claw aficots would have been  free.
 
If this is for the dining table, as Brian suggests, I think it is more  
likely a chopsticks rest or maybe for an old writing implement - pen rest (but  
wet ink pens would stain it).  I have 4 sets of jade chopsticks  from my 
trip to China in the 1980s.  They came with small  jade rests 1 3/4 in length 
and carved to be lower in the center top,  presumably to keep chopstick 
tips off the table surface?  Anyone  have books with table settings and writing 
implements?
 
I do not think bone or ivory is suitable for a knife rest, though  maybe 
they were what was available (and easily replaced) for use by  children.  I do 
not remember knives being offered at dining tables in  the Orient.  Cutting 
and cubing was done in the kitchen to make food of a  size that chopsticks 
could manage.  I have antique cut glass ones that are  more appropriate for 
the sharpened blades used in Western cultures to carve  meat 100 years ago.  
The rest length on these is 2, with quite large  round ends that are very 
fancy.  These could raise the knife up quite a bit  from the tablecloth, 
were easily cleaned, did not stain, were elegant.
 
Better photos on Ebay, and easy way to retrieve dealer's notes, would  
help. 
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
 
 
In a message dated 1/31/2014, brid...@bigpond.com writes:
 
If you want a non needlework tool suggestion, then a Knife Rest  might 
fit 
the bill.  (Keep it off the table cloth!)   Brian
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It says it has a hollow centre, so one must  be able to open it: a needle
case? Agnes Boddington -  Elloughton UK

Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on  Ebay.
Bone, turned, around three and a half inches long with a hollow centre.  Any
ideas?
My first thought was to wind yardage as it's worked, but that  would be
straight across the middle and not dip 

Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

2014-01-31 Thread Bev Walker
My guess is that it is a vintage turned piece-of-something-else.



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[lace] oh no - Clarification has been Requested

2014-01-31 Thread Jeriames
To save others from investing valuable time:  Early this morning,  I wrote 
privately to Becca in Utah, asking for clarification.   We'll just have to 
wait for a reply from her.  She is in another time zone,  and may be at work 
during the day.
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center 

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Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

2014-01-31 Thread Adele Shaak
Oh, wait - a curtain pull! You know, that handle that hangs on the end of the 
cord that draws your curtains. The rings provide traction in your hand, you can 
pull with your fingers wrapped around the smooth middle section. I see the 
seller has confirmed that the hole goes right through the centre; the cord 
would be threaded through and knotted.

Adele
West Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)

On 2014-01-30, at 11:56 PM, Jean Nathan wrote:

 Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay. 

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Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

2014-01-31 Thread Brenda Paternoster
My first thought was that it's a needle case.  I have something similar in wood 
which dates back to the 1980s or 1990s and would have been bought from one of 
the many bobbin turners around at the time.

However, mine has a cap with a screw end which goes inside the main part.  On 
close examination of the ebay photo the grooves at each end appear to be 
parallel decorative grooves rather than spiral threads.  Could it be that there 
were two end caps, which are now missing, which just pushed onto the ends which 
are slightly tapered?  Maybe even thimbles as end caps to stop the contents 
from falling out.

If it was intended as a knife/chopstick rest why bother to make it hollow?  and 
why not have a flat surface somewhere to stop it from rolling around?

Brenda

On 31 Jan 2014, at 07:56, Jean Nathan wrote:

 Another I don't know what it is so I'll call it a lace bobbin on Ebay.

Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Re: [lace] Another lace bobbin on Ebay - any ideas on what it is?

2014-01-31 Thread Cindy Rusak
Or a fan pull for the cord of a ceiling fan.  I had a secret pal give me a
wooden one that looks pretty much the same.

Cindy Rusak, in snowy Bracebridge, ON, Canada

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Re: [lace] oh no

2014-01-31 Thread Sue Babbs
1.safety heels   


I suspect it's a typo and she meant safety pins


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Re: [lace] oh no

2014-01-31 Thread Bev Walker
Hello Becca and everyone

I think Sue is right, you probably mean safety pins.
I was intrigued by the use of bobby pins. I found an example:
http://deborahsknitting.com/images/tips/wrapturn.jpg

deborahsknitting.com has a lot of other ideas.

At first I thought you meant reinforced heel not safety heel - I use a
nylon thread in the short rows for reinforcing. Worked well on a pair of
*lace socks* I made.
FWIW when I do short rows I knit the wrapped thread at the time, no need
for dangly markers, and it draws in the work nearby to avoid a hole.


On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 6:04 PM, laceviolins...@comcast.net wrote:

 I remember a few weeks ago watching a demonstration on do a short row heel
 that involved safety heels and another one that used bobby
 pins.argh I can't find where I put it. Can anyone help me? please?
 It looked very easy and there did not seem to be holes and no awful wraps.
 Thank you if you can


-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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[lace] sorry

2014-01-31 Thread laceviolins_52
I am such a dough head. I sent my 'oh no' to the wrong group. I am knitting a 
pair of socks and the safety pins and pins. The short row heels I was looking 
for used bobby pins which are what you use in your hair. Again, sorry. 


Becca in Utah 

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