[lace] teachers
Hi Arachnids I have met a lot of lacemakers who have stated they are not teachers and then helped others and those who have learnt from them. These lacemakers usually do a very good job helping new lacemakers to get going, particularly when both parties have plenty of patience with each other and a sense of humour. Also when the teacher encourages her student to go out and have contact with other lacemakers and teachers. Without this happening we would have fewer lacemakers enjoying our craft. Blow the dust, letâs make lace. Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Teaching skills and lace
Hi Lyn and Spiders, Just to add a little bit more to the topic. Although some (most ?) lace tutors probably don't have 'teacher training', I, with the help of the Lace Guild bursary, took the City and Guilds Teaching Certificates, and they certainly helped! The class was taught by a wonderful woman, who made us challenge ourselves - and each other - and my biggest achievement in that class was to teach an Army sergeant how to do leaves! And a very creditable effort he made, too. So - maybe the City and Guilds teaching certificates could be more widely advertised - I certainly enjoyed the experience of the courses, and I am sure I learned a very great deal too. Carol - in North Norfolk UK 'Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day.' - Original Message - From: Lyn Bailey lynrbai...@desupernet.net To: lace@arachne.com Cc: Sent: Saturday, 23 August 2014, 20:42 Subject: [lace] Teaching skills and lace . Training and practice can only help. While lace teachers undoubtedly know the subject matter, there is no teacher training for lace teachers, nor is there the kind of feedback as to the effectiveness of my teaching. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Teaching skills and lace
So - maybe the City and Guilds teaching certificates could be more widely advertised - I certainly enjoyed the experience of the courses, and I am sure I learned a very great deal too. are there any courses for 'City and Guilds' Lace making? I thought they were not being run any more but would be interested in finding out about the possibility of taking a course. Celia Mulhearn Highbridge, Somerset UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace salamanders
Hello, Strange : Michel Jourde the man who drew the salamanders dead this week-end. He drew a lots of patterns and is very famous in France. Have a look to his blog : http://mjourde.over-blog.com/ You can find a lots of pictures. Sof in France - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Teaching skills and lace
The city and guilds teaching certificate is called PTLLS. These days, in order to take this qualification and use it to teach you are supposed to be qualified in the subject that you intend to teach. My understanding is that the city and guilds for lacemaking is no longer run as as this was the only qualification in the UK you end up with a circular issue. You want to be qualified to teach lace but you can't gain a qualification at the right level to take the teaching qualification. However, if you are qualified with PTLLS you can apply to any of the awarding bodies to deliver a qualification in lacemaking so long as you are an accreditation centre or attached to an accredited centre. That, of course, costs money. Then to deliver the accreditation course that you set up you need to pay for an IV (internal verifier) to verify that you are delivering to standard. Following that, sample models from each learner are checked by an outside auditor from the qualifying body to check that standard are being met. This all has to be delivered in a timely manner. So, you can see why as numbers applying for the city and guilds lacemaking dropped it stopped being viable to continue with the formal qualification. http://www.cityandguilds.com/qualifications-and-apprenticeships/learning/teaching/6302-preparing-to-teach-in-the-lifelong-learning-sector-ptlls#tab=information You could argue that if you have received certification from the lace guild for completing their assessments that this would give you the technical qualification to take PTLLS but because it is not delivered to OfQual standards it is not recognised. Catch 22. In the past, colleges would let you teach lace if you had PTLLS but not a lace qualification as they believed that if you could demonstrate a reasonable standard in lacemaking and had learnt to teach you could combine the two. Something which this debate here has borne out. L Sent from my iPad On 24 Aug 2014, at 20:55, Celia Mulhearn po...@me.com wrote: So - maybe the City and Guilds teaching certificates could be more widely advertised - I certainly enjoyed the experience of the courses, and I am sure I learned a very great deal too. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace salamanders
This is sad news, sof, but thank you for bringing it to our attention. Michel was a bright light in our Lace world, he will be missed. I am glad his family will continue his blog. I have many Lace projects to do but I have decided I will make a salamander to send to the friendship project! Sent from my iPod On Aug 24, 2014, at 1:11 PM, sof nard...@free.fr wrote: Strange : Michel Jourde the man who drew the salamanders dead this week-end. He drew a lots of patterns and is very famous in France. Have a look to his blog : http://mjourde.over-blog.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Lace teaching
My goodness I didn't mean to start such a debate/vent session. *blush* My experience with the other lace maker was at a demonstration and I was new to tatting. I had been taught by the president of our local guild just a couple months before and I was doing my best to throw myself wholeheartedly into the lace world. I was shocked at being put down for simply making a join in a different, but acceptable, style. I was also stunned at how this lace maker would inform the kids under 8 years age that they were too young to try bobbin lace. It made me quite angry as I knew full well that there are laces made by much younger kids in museums and my daughter (4 at the time) had helped me make one of those snakes. I was also shocked that, instead of promoting the local guild, this person informed everyone that if they wanted to learn tatting they would need to sign up for his/her class at the local yarn shop. A class that was $150 for Level 1 class (2 months long) and only taught rings chains. My thought, later after I had recovered from the negativity I felt, was how offensive the inferences he/she made were. That according to this person who was a certified tatting instructor all those grandmothers and mothers teaching their kids were some how unqualified. Or that those like the president of the local chapter - shouldn't be teaching because they didn't have some little paper. I have sense learned that this person is kind of notorious in lace circles for this behavior. Having vetted teachers at IOLI conventions is one thing, but isn't it part of being a member in IOLI to do gratis teaching and demos? Isn't part of loving lace making to try and inspire and encourage as many people as we can to take up the art? What I had hoped to encourage by sharing my experience was for people to be more willing to stand up for the new lace-makers. If we see something like *GASP FUME* someone cutting bobbins off that we'll speak up. Thanks for reading happy lace making. Robin D. -- Never, ever, let anyone tell you what you can and can't do. Prove the cynics wrong. Pity them for they have no imagination. The sky's the limit. *Your* sky. *Your *limit. Now, let's dance. *~Tom Hiddleston* - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Michel Jourde
I was saddened to hear that Michel Jourde has died. His designs, as seen in Lace Express, have often reinspired me. While looking at his website I saw the sword Excalibur lace that would be a perfect gift to a relative. Do you know which site sells his patterns? Does anyone know if it is possible to buy the pattern still? The way I read (google translate) his site all orders were emailed to him. Thanking you Jenny Brandis Kununurra Western Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Michel Jourde
Also sad to hear! He was a very good designer, and Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2014, at 7:45 PM, Jenny Brandis je...@brandis.com.au wrote: I was saddened to hear that Michel Jourde has died. His designs, as seen in Lace Express, have often reinspired me. While looking at his website I saw the sword Excalibur lace that would be a perfect gift to a relative. Do you know which site sells his patterns? Does anyone know if it is possible to buy the pattern still? The way I read (google translate) his site all orders were emailed to him. Thanking you Jenny Brandis Kununurra Western Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace teaching
With children who have good attention spans, I have successfully taught them simple bobbin lace ( eg snakes, fish etc) at the age of 3. Sue suebabbs...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Some gentle ADMIN reminders
Dear spiders, I haven't been very active on the list for a while because of the war here in Gaza, my son's recent engagement, and a bad bout of whooping cough, but I do send private reminders. I want to remind you all of a few things because lately I've had to write more private emails than usual. 1. Please trim posts, especially if you're using a smartphone or tablet. (If you really don't know how, write to me privately and I'll find a tutorial or explain it to you.) This is important for two reasons. First, it ensures that the digest subscribers don't have to scroll through pages of stuff they've already read. Second, it keeps the content-to-noise ration high. The high level of content from extremely knowledgeable lacemakers, teachers, and scholars make this list a valuable resource. 2. Please try to keep the discussion related to lace. Discussion of lace teachers is fine, because lace-teaching is very specialized and pertinent. Discussion of, say, Catholic school uniforms would not be considered lace-related. If a non-lace thread only draws a few responses, I won't say anything. If it goes on for several days, it should be moved to lace-chat. Just for clarification, the lace-chat list is for chat between lace-makers, not chat about lace. So that's where the jokes, family events, trips to the Bahamas, etc., should be posted. (But trips to the VA textile section could be posted here.) 3. If you are having technical difficulties with your subscription, email, character encoding, spam filters, whatever, feel free to write to me privately. If I am able and have the time, I will try to assist you. That's part of my volunteer job--moderating this list and providing behind-the-scenes support. Obviously, I may not be able to help you with something really big, like shopping for a new laptop or cleaning up a badly infected computer. I do have a day job and family! :-) I really don't mind providing limited computer support. 4. Please keep subject lines relevant. Digest subscribers, when you post to the list, remember to change the topic to the original subject line. If it's a new posting, think of a good subject line. This is important for finding messages in the archives and for allowing people to search for a topic. 5. Digest subscribers, when you reply to a message, please check that you are sending to the address lace@arachne.com. If you use any of the aliases, like l...@dont.panix.com, your message will appear on the list but it won't be archived. 6. We use a free archive service (http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com) which only archives messages sent to the correct address. The archive is searchable and can be read by thread or by date (links are in the upper left corner of the page). 7. If you are a dealer or you want to promote your latest book, a few lines in your sig is appropriate. If you want to sell a lot of lace-related stuff but you are not a dealer (for example, you're getting rid of a lot of old threads and bobbins or you're culling your book collection), you are welcome to post directly on the list. 8. I don't think anyone needs this reminder, but I'll throw it in anyway. A short sig with a few lines about yourself, your location, your blog, etc., is fine. A sig with your 500 favourite inspirational quotes or a detailed ASCII art depiction of the Titanic is not. So please be discrete. Thanks, Avital Arachne moderator -- Blog: http://apinnick.wordpress.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/sets - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace teaching
I have always taught beginners for basically the cost of my travel. For more advanced tuition I charge a little more. I also encourage newbies to join the local group to get support and offer a list of books to work with for inspiration. In addition, for the taster classes that I have been running at local craft stores, I have provided all the equipment so the learner simply has to turn up, choose some lovely colours and start. As to age, the last taster session had a lovely young lady of just 7 who had better colour coordination than the rest of us. Sent from my iPad On 25 Aug 2014, at 00:37, Robin D human.m...@gmail.com wrote: Having vetted teachers at IOLI conventions is one thing, but isn't it part of being a member in IOLI to do gratis teaching and demos? Isn't part of loving lace making to try and inspire and encourage as many people as we can to take up the art? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
