Re: [lace] lace ID?

[Amanda Babcock Furrow]

I agree that this does not look like Romanian Point.  However, to my 
surprise there are indeed needle lace stitches, filling in the loops
where the cord or thinner tape loops around itself just inside the 
corrugated, thicker crochet tape around the edge.

Amanda in Philly, Pennsylvania, US

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 08:01:58PM -0500, Lorelei Halley wrote:
> Bev
> 
> As I understand it, Romanian point lace has a tape made by crochet. But the
> empty spaces between the tapes are filled with needle lace stitches. This
> piece has no needle lace stitches.
> 
> Lorelei
> 
> 
> 
> From: Bev Walker [mailto:walker.b...@gmail.com]
> 
> Susan and Lorelei, Bunches of grapes with the vine around the outside I've
> decided!
> 
> Only a semi-confident guess it is RPL. It has that chunky, solid, unctuous
> appearance. Hopefully someone will confirm/deny.
> 
> Bev
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[lace] Lace ID?

[Susan]

To Jocelyn's question--no.  There is no "form" over which the individual grapes 
are constructed, nor are they stuffed.  Susan Hottle USA

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RE: [lace] lace ID?

[Lorelei Halley]

Bev

As I understand it, Romanian point lace has a tape made by crochet. But the
empty spaces between the tapes are filled with needle lace stitches. This
piece has no needle lace stitches.

Lorelei



From: Bev Walker [mailto:walker.b...@gmail.com]

Susan and Lorelei, Bunches of grapes with the vine around the outside I've
decided!

Only a semi-confident guess it is RPL. It has that chunky, solid, unctuous
appearance. Hopefully someone will confirm/deny.

Bev

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[lace] Lace ID?

[Susan]

Thanks Lorelei, I had never heard of Bruges crochet.  Goodness, I'm so glad I 
asked the question as I learned another new thing!  Regarding the lace, the 
owner thinks it is Romanian point lace.  I am doubtful.  The cording is unusual 
& the lace itself is not constructed in the "tape lace" manner.  Romanian has 
fillings.  This seems to be a series of individual motifs that are simply 
connected to the undulating cord or to the other motifs directly.   In tape 
lace, the cording, Battenburg or Branscombe tape etc. delineates the design & 
that is not the case here.  The leaf components are highly similar to those 
pictured on irishcrochettogether.com.  Scroll down to see the dress with 
individual leaf components!   Anyway, it's a very lovely mystery.  Sincerely, 
Susan Hottle USA 
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Re: [lace] lace ID?

[Adele Shaak]

I think it looks like Romanian Point, too. I compared it with the examples in 
my book (“Romanian Point Lace” by Angela Thomson and Kathleen Waller) and while 
there isn’t anything that’s *exactly* the same, the style of the design, the 
undulating cord, the bunches of grapes and the grape leaf pattern, the 
corrugated-looking edging; all these things appear in Romanian Point. I have a 
piece of this lace, and it is very robust, as you say, and it is also the same 
colour as this.

Adele


> On Jul 13, 2017, at 4:21 PM, Bev Walker  wrote:
> 
> Hello Susan and everyone
> 
> I found it finally, looked all through your album at Flickr but it is at
> the beginning!
> Just a guess, it looks like Romanian Point Lace. The grape motif suggests
> to me Eastern European origin. I could be way off! but I don't see it as
> Irish crochet.
> 
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 3:37 PM,  wrote:
> 
>> Hello All!  I just posted a scan of a lace mat that belongs to a friend in
>> Ohio.  If anyone has an opinion as to its origin, I would love to know.
>> The undulating cord, picot bars & Irish crochet motifs are quite robust.
>> The entire mat is approxiimately 12"x12".

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Re: [lace] lace ID?

[Bev Walker]

Hello Susan and everyone

I found it finally, looked all through your album at Flickr but it is at
the beginning!
Just a guess, it looks like Romanian Point Lace. The grape motif suggests
to me Eastern European origin. I could be way off! but I don't see it as
Irish crochet.

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 3:37 PM,  wrote:

> Hello All!  I just posted a scan of a lace mat that belongs to a friend in
> Ohio.  If anyone has an opinion as to its origin, I would love to know.
> The undulating cord, picot bars & Irish crochet motifs are quite robust.
> The entire mat is approxiimately 12"x12".
>



-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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RE: [lace] lace ID?

[Lorelei Halley]

Susan
An interesting piece. That wide outer border tape is something used in 
something called "Bruges crochet". But I don't think it actually has anything 
to do with Bruges. The Irish crochet elements are very interesting, especially 
the maple leaf shaped ones.
Lorelei

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If anyone has an opinion as to its origin, I would love to know.  Susan Hottle 
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[lace] lace ID?

[hottleco]

Hello All!  I just posted a scan of a lace mat that belongs to a friend in 
Ohio.  If anyone has an opinion as to its origin, I would love to know.  The 
undulating cord, picot bars & Irish crochet motifs are quite robust.  The 
entire mat is approxiimately 12"x12".  Many thanks.   Sincerely, Susan Hottle 
USA 

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