Re: [lace] Poppies.

[Sue Babbs]

If you're on pinterest (which I'm not) there seem to be some tatted poppy 
patterns pictured there:


https://www.pinterest.com/pin/271341946275392590/

and I tracked down a few patterns:

https://tipsaroundthehome.blogspot.com/2014/09/tatting-pattern-tiny-heart-poppy-part-2.html

https://tennbrown.blogspot.com/2014/11/another-poppy.html

http://www.ringoftatters.org.uk/patterns/Rembrance%20Day%20Poppy%20by%20Jennifer%20Williams.pdf




Sue

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[lace] Poppies.

[Elizabeth Ligeti.]

Does anyone have a Poppy Pattern for Tatting?   I have some red thread and
would be happy to tat some poppies for this wonderful project.

Tatting is almost all I can do these days – at the moment. I try a bit of
Early Lace, as I can plait, and mostly pins go in where necessary, and don’t
have to be so precise as with other Lacemaking.
This distorted vision is so frustrating, but Tatting is keeping me sane – so
far!!!

Regards from Liz. In Very hot Melbourne, Oz.

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[lace] Vintage pattern books

[Tess Parrish]

DMC is pretty tricky about finding dates.  The one for the Dentelles aux
Fuseaux I found on the first page, “Part 1: File size 16.6 MB PDF” at the
bottom of the page over on the right.  It shows the numbers 1124.  This means
November 1924.

My little Encyclopedia has its numbers on the page opposite the title page:
755, which means July 1955. And another one, Le Macramé—title page—612.

It may also depend on the dates of publication or style of folder.  I have
several DMC folders with no dates on them anywhere that I could find. They
were all published around 1905 or certainly before WW1. (I know the dates of
the owners.)

So the trick is to look wherever you can for the three or perhaps four little
numbers hiding somewhere in the front or the back of the book. Where that
might be, and even the dating or not, may very well depend on when it was
published.

I also suggest you take a look at the web page
http://www.antiquepatternlibrary.org/html/warm/catalog.htm
which seems to have a lot of dates on the DMC books.

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Re: [lace] Commemorative poppies for the Australian War memorial in Canberra

[Sue Babbs]

I have enlarged the pattern by 20%, and am working the first one in perle 
5!!! which fills this space nicely, and should produce poppies with 4 leaves 
in the the size that is required (8-9cm).  I am using 20 gauge artistic wire 
in burgundy with 1 thread of perle 5 to make the edge pair.  I have yet to 
take a petal off the pillow to see if this works.  I am hoping not to need 
to stiffen it further


I'll report further when I have completed the poppy

Sue

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[lace] Commemorative poppies for the Australian War memorial in Canberra

[Susan]

Hello All!  Not that I know the slightest thing about making a poppy from 
Janice Blair’s patten—but is there any possibility that it could be worked over 
DMC Memory Thread?  Like a tiny frame?  This product comes in red & I have used 
it as the coarse thread/gimp in Mirecourt.  It would add body & allow the 
petals to be positioned.  Just askin’...
Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA 

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Re: [lace] Vintage pattern books

[Jean Leader]

> On 18 Jan 2018, at 12:20, Gilian Dye  wrote:
> I'm wondering if any Arachne member knows of any way of dating the numerous
> books and instruction leaflets published by DMC, Coats and other thread
> manufacturers from the end of the 19th century?

For DMC I was either told by someone or read somewhere (I don’t remember which 
now) that there’s a number on or opposite the title page that gives the date of 
printing.
For example, my little green copy of the Encyclopedia of Needlework has 412 
which is April 1912, 
my copy of Les Dentelles aux Fuseaux (1re serie) has 530 which is May 1930, 
and my copy of Die Kloppelspitzen ((II.Serie) has 225 which is February 1925

Having an older date for the Bobbin Lace 2nd series (the one in German) than 
for the 1st series (the one in French) may seem wrong but these books were 
re-printed many times and the earlier 2nd series has the 1st series advertised 
in the back.

My Encyclopedia of Needlework has the Bobbin Lace 1st series advertised in the 
back but not the 2nd series, which indicates that the 2nd series was published 
later than 1912.

Hope that makes sense

Jean in Glasgow where the snow is melting but more is promised

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[lace] Re: Vintage pattern books DMC

[Jane Partridge]

That's where it was! I've just been hunting through old messages in the
rec.crafts.needlework group, uk.rec.crafts, etc, (I'm amazed they're still
going!) as I thought the discussion was on there rather than on Arachne - it
must have been late 1990s as I'm sure it was in the early days. (We've had two
computer 'deaths' since then, so although I've still got printouts of some of
the ancient useful stuff from the newsgroups, I haven't got all of it)  I can
remember several people having Therese de Dillmont's book that they were
trying to date and there being a reference number on the flysheet (?) which
gave it away, someone on the list was a librarian (here in the UK, I think)
and had means of translating the codes to dates. She dated a book I had at the
time, but unfortunately I can't remember who it was. There was also something
about the change of binding methods and obviously paper quality during the
1940s, due to wartime restrictions. The discussion was quite lengthy, though.


I was only saying to a work colleague the other day how it was the textile
newsgroups that taught me that having internet access on the home computer was
something that I would find useful and interesting, rather than it just being
a work tool for my husband! How attitudes change over the course of 25 years
or so!


Jane Partridge



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Subject: Re: [lace] Vintage pattern books DMC

Hi, Here are a couple comments from the Arachne archives and there are more.
One at the bottom of page 2 of DMC search results.  I seem to remember a
long discussion of this with some more clues. Did Leonard take part in
that discussion? Lots of years ago!

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[lace] ADMIN: Old mail recycled

[Avital]

Could someone please forward to me the lace-chat digest with last year's mail?

It sounds like something happened when I updated the year and volume
number in the digest configuration files at the beginning of this
month.

Thanks,

Avital
Arachne moderator

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Re: [lace] Vintage pattern books DMC

[jviking]

Hi, Here are a couple comments from the Arachne archives and there are more.
One at the bottom of page 2 of DMC search results.  I seem to remember a
long discussion of this with some more clues. Did Leonard take part in
that discussion? Lots of years ago!

If I find more info I'll send it along.  Jane in Vermont, USA with 3" of
new snow (7.5 cm), could have been worse!
jvik...@sover.net
**
Hello Lucie ( and Lynn)

>From your description, it appears that you have a French edition.  The
earliest French edition that I have details for was dated Oct 1909, when
630,000 copies had been printed.  I don't have the number of pages for this
one, which is the larger size, but the 1924 pocket size contained 828.  So
it appears that your book predates 1909.

I keep looking for more clues to dates - the best so far was a English
version which had a handwritten inscription - Holmes, Windermere, 1895.  I
believe the first book was published in 1886.

Hope this helps a bit,

Liz

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Subject: [lace] Dillmont again - to Liz Pass in Poole, Dorset


Dear Liz,
maybe you can help me date my Therese de Dillmont, Encyclopedie de Ouvrages
des Dames. Paris: Librairie Ch. Delagrave (n.d.) 826 pages + 44 pages of ads
and contents. Olive green cloth cover, black and gold DMC logo paper on
inside cover, 560,000 printed copies, pocket size (9.5cm x
14cm)




>> I'm wondering if any Arachne member knows of any way of dating the
>> numerous
>> books and instruction leaflets published by DMC, Coats and other thread
>> manufacturers from the end of the 19th century? Knowing the dates when

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Re: [lace] Vintage pattern books

[N.A. Neff]

Oh, and I should have mentioned that they seem to have dates for most if
not all of them.  I didn't look at Coats etc.

Nancy


On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 9:29 AM, N.A. Neff  wrote:

> Hi Gillian,
>
> The Arizona archive (https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/
> patterns/weaving/books.html#D) gives its date as November 1924.
>
> I have no idea how reliable that information is but it's more than nothing!
>
> Nancy
> Connecticut USA
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 7:20 AM, Gilian Dye  wrote:
>
>> I'm wondering if any Arachne member knows of any way of dating the
>> numerous
>> books and instruction leaflets published by DMC, Coats and other thread
>> manufacturers from the end of the 19th century? ...
>>
>
>
>> At the moment I am particularly interested in the date of DMC  Les
>> Dentelles aux Fuseaux (2nd series)
>>
>> Gil Dye
>>
>>

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Re: [lace] Vintage pattern books

[N.A. Neff]

Hi Gillian,

The Arizona archive (
https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/books.html#D) gives its date
as November 1924.

I have no idea how reliable that information is but it's more than nothing!

Nancy
Connecticut USA


On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 7:20 AM, Gilian Dye  wrote:

> I'm wondering if any Arachne member knows of any way of dating the numerous
> books and instruction leaflets published by DMC, Coats and other thread
> manufacturers from the end of the 19th century? ...
>


> At the moment I am particularly interested in the date of DMC  Les
> Dentelles aux Fuseaux (2nd series)
>
> Gil Dye
>
>

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Re: [lace] Vintage pattern books

[Jo]

Bad timing. Last year my husband and me killed the last bad-weather 
holiday in an energy museum in Mulhouse: center piece was the steaming 
engine of the former electric power plant of the DMC factories. I had no 
idea.


Jo

Gilian Dye schreef op 2018-01-18 13:20:
I'm wondering if any Arachne member knows of any way of dating the 
numerous

books and instruction leaflets published by DMC, Coats and other thread
manufacturers from the end of the 19th century? Knowing the dates when
patterns were published - for tatting, crochet, knitting etc as well as
bobbin and needlelace - would be a great help in dating surviving lace.

I have contacted DMC in France. They have responded saying that their 
archives
are managed by the City of Mulhouse - which is not a resource I am able 
to
access. And I have so far had no success in tracking down information 
from

any of the other companies

At the moment I am particularly interested in the date of DMC  Les
Dentelles aux Fuseaux (2nd series)

Any help will be greatly appreciated

Gil Dye

In a snowy Northumberland

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[lace] Vintage pattern books

[Gilian Dye]

I'm wondering if any Arachne member knows of any way of dating the numerous
books and instruction leaflets published by DMC, Coats and other thread
manufacturers from the end of the 19th century? Knowing the dates when
patterns were published - for tatting, crochet, knitting etc as well as
bobbin and needlelace - would be a great help in dating surviving lace.

I have contacted DMC in France. They have responded saying that their archives
are managed by the City of Mulhouse - which is not a resource I am able to
access. And I have so far had no success in tracking down information from
any of the other companies

At the moment I am particularly interested in the date of DMC  Les
Dentelles aux Fuseaux (2nd series)

Any help will be greatly appreciated

Gil Dye

In a snowy Northumberland

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