Re: [lace] Fixing lace to a background

2020-09-29 Thread Alice Howell
 I suggest checking the rules of the contest you are interested in entering. 
Some do not want the work mounted.  They want to be able to see both sides of
the work.  Judges have to follow the rules in effect even if they don't like
the rules.
I think glue on a contest item would make a judge cringe, even when mounting
is permitted.  When I was judging, I never met up with glue so never had to
deal with it.
Alice in Oregon

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020, 7:36:26 PM PDT, Elizabeth Ligeti
 wrote:

 I have just be studying my copy of “Tatting Artistry in Threads�
by Helma
Siemann, and see that she has glued her multitude of Josephine Knots etc, to
Art board, to form the pictures (which are lovely) Is this an acceptable way
of fixing tatting to a background – and would it be accepted by a Judge
in a
competition?

I have only ever stitched lace to a fabric background, so am quite taken
aback
by this method, and am wondering if Show and Competition Judges would pass
that method, - or would they disqualify the piece?

Personally, I cannot see what is wrong with it, as the pieces will never be
used, or removed from the setting, - so why not, -- but I wonder if it would
be acceptable when up against other pieces for Judging.

I would be interested in other people’s thought on it- especially if
you are
a Judge at Shows!

Regards from Liz. L.
Melbourne, Oz.

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[lace] Fixing lace to a background

2020-09-29 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
I have just be studying my copy of “Tatting Artistry in Threads” by Helma
Siemann, and see that she has glued her multitude of Josephine Knots etc, to
Art board, to form the pictures (which are lovely) Is this an acceptable way
of fixing tatting to a background – and would it be accepted by a Judge in a
competition?

I have only ever stitched lace to a fabric background, so am quite taken aback
by this method, and am wondering if Show and Competition Judges would pass
that method, - or would they disqualify the piece?

Personally, I cannot see what is wrong with it, as the pieces will never be
used, or removed from the setting, - so why not, -- but I wonder if it would
be acceptable when up against other pieces for Judging.

I would be interested in other people’s thought on it- especially if you are
a Judge at Shows!

Regards from Liz. L.
Melbourne, Oz.

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Re: [lace] Lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-29 Thread DJ
Karen,

You described using brightly colored threads for your beginners so that you can 
reference which pair of bobbins to address. A technique I used when I was 
working a very complex pattern was to trace the pathways of my pattern using 
colored pencils. Then I placed color matched elastics onto the corresponding 
bobbins. I found it very easy to determine which bobbin pairs were associated 
with each portion of my pattern. I also had glass head pins in matching colors 
when I needed to use dividers.

Deborah

> On Sep 29, 2020, at 1:27 PM, Karen Thompson  wrote:
> 
> Antje and other potential virtual teachers,
> I like to keep the virtual classes very small, 4-6 depending on their level
> of lacemaking skills.  You can have the students send photos or have them
> scare their screen. Then you can annotate but that all takes extra time.  I
> teach on Zoom and use "spotlight" to watch each student in turn, like
> walking around the classroom. For the beginners, I have them use bright
> colored threads, so I can say "the red pair, etc."  which helps a lot.   If
> the threads are all the same color, it is pretty much as you say "take the
> second pair on the left and pull very slightly to the left... no, not so
> strong... a bit further up!!..."  It is a bit crazy.  Having good, clear
> diagrams helps a lot, and demonstrating with large threads and pins also
> helps.   Virtual teaching is different from in-person teaching but a lot
> better than no teaching at all as far as I am concerned.  I practice by
> logging into a second device from a different email account so I can see
> what the students see.  In Zoom I have bought a subscription so I can stay
> on for more than 40 minutes at a time. Some lace guilds here have invested
> in that, so their members can use the account for teaching.  Since we are
> all interested in promoting lacemaking, we need to adapt.  The virtual
> classroom is especially good for introducing younger students to lace.
> 
> 
> -Karen on the Atlantic coast in Delaware, USA.
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RE: [lace] lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-29 Thread Carolyn Wetzel
I'm following this thread with great interest and am about to start my
first virtual lace class as a student. It is needle lace instead of bobbin
lace, so it will be interesting to see what challenges are unique to lace
made in the hand vs on a pillow. Somehow students will need to arrange a
camera to show what is happening in their hands. I'm going to clamp my
phone in a goose-neck stand like Kathy Draves described and face the camera
down over my shoulder.

I'd love to hear more constructive criticism of virtual learning
experiences - successful and unsuccessful practices - from more students
and teachers of "hands-on" classes!

-- 
Carolyn M. Wetzel
Massachusetts, USA

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Re: [lace] : Free Battenburg patterns & calendar

2020-09-29 Thread jviking @sover.net
Hi All, I included Janice's note because I also had trouble finding the 
photos at Flickr and Sue told me to look under Photostream. There they 
were! I think I've had that problem with other things people have put on 
there and I just looked in the albums.
  
 And I've received the patterns and they are lovely. Thank you so much Sue! 
It's fun to have a raffle.
 Jane in Vermont USA where the leaves are changing
 jvik...@sover.net
  
  


 From: "Janice" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 3:03 PM
To: "Sue Babbs" 
Cc: "lace" 
Subject: Re: [lace] : Free Battenburg patterns & calendar   
I am at the stage where I need to get rid of stuff so I know how you feel 
about that. Did you remove the photos from Flickr as I went to see them and 
could not find anything you were describing?
Janice

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Re[2]: [lace] Lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-29 Thread Sue Babbs
And the cost of $150 for a year of Zoom seems very reasonable for the 
teacher to pay and share out over all the classes they teach in that 
year - much less than the costs of transportation, room hire etc


Sue
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Re[2]: [lace] : Free Battenburg patterns & calendar

2020-09-29 Thread Sue Babbs
Yes, I removed the freebie patterns from Flickr, as I saw no point of 
them taking up space there in future.


Sue
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Re: [lace] : Free Battenburg patterns & calendar

2020-09-29 Thread Janice
I am at the stage where I need to get rid of stuff so I know how you feel about 
that. Did you remove the photos from Flickr as I went to see them and could not 
find anything you were describing?  
Janice 

Sent from my iPhone Janice


> On Sep 29, 2020, at 9:55 AM, Sue Babbs  wrote:
> 
> I had considered the digest people and decided I had no idea how long it 
> would be before a digest came out and just needed to get these things out of 
> my house while I had some time to deal with them.  So I was sorry not to have 
> contacted everyone on the list with my 5 day offer but I really didn't want 
> to have emails coming in about the subject for a month
> 
> Sue
> suebabbs...@gmail.com
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Janice Blair" 
> To: "lace" 
> Sent: 9/29/2020 11:27:07 AM
> Subject: [lace] : Free Battenburg patterns & calendar
> 
>> Hi Sue,Just wanted to point out that I receive the digest version of Arachne
>> and as emails are less frequent these days it takes a long time for a digest
>> to come and even then it only contains about 6 emails. Anyway, your offer was
>> seen today, September 29, by me and probably many others who get the digest.
>> If anyone offers a raffle in the future maybe you can set a date about a 
>> month
>> out so everyone has a chance.
>> I am getting my lace fix these days in Zoom meetings of guilds I belong to 
>> and
>> working on new designs which will hopefully be in the Bulletin and Lace in 
>> the
>> next year. I have my Christmas lace already done, including my Arachne
>> exchange. I think this Covid thing will be around for a long time which is a
>> bummer.
>> Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, jblace.com
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Re: [lace] Lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-29 Thread Karen Thompson
Antje and other potential virtual teachers,
I like to keep the virtual classes very small, 4-6 depending on their level
of lacemaking skills.  You can have the students send photos or have them
scare their screen. Then you can annotate but that all takes extra time.  I
teach on Zoom and use "spotlight" to watch each student in turn, like
walking around the classroom. For the beginners, I have them use bright
colored threads, so I can say "the red pair, etc."  which helps a lot.   If
the threads are all the same color, it is pretty much as you say "take the
second pair on the left and pull very slightly to the left... no, not so
strong... a bit further up!!..."  It is a bit crazy.  Having good, clear
diagrams helps a lot, and demonstrating with large threads and pins also
helps.   Virtual teaching is different from in-person teaching but a lot
better than no teaching at all as far as I am concerned.  I practice by
logging into a second device from a different email account so I can see
what the students see.  In Zoom I have bought a subscription so I can stay
on for more than 40 minutes at a time. Some lace guilds here have invested
in that, so their members can use the account for teaching.  Since we are
all interested in promoting lacemaking, we need to adapt.  The virtual
classroom is especially good for introducing younger students to lace.


-Karen on the Atlantic coast in Delaware, USA.


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Re: [lace] Lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-29 Thread AGlez
Thank you very much, Karen.

But how do you do as a teacher? imagine you have 8 students making the lace
you are teaching, and that each of them has a different difficulty or are
doing something wrong. But you cannot take their pillow... They have good
diagrams, and pictures of the finished lace, but... how do you explain how
to work it correctly? With words: "take the second pair on the left and
pull very slightly to the left... no, not so strong... a bit further
up!!..." Crazy, isn't it?

I will be in this situation in a month or so, and would like to have
solutions to all possible problems. All your answers are helping me get
ideas. Thank you very much!

Greetings from Antje, in Spain

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Re: [lace] : Free Battenburg patterns & calendar

2020-09-29 Thread Sue Babbs
I had considered the digest people and decided I had no idea how long it 
would be before a digest came out and just needed to get these things 
out of my house while I had some time to deal with them.  So I was sorry 
not to have contacted everyone on the list with my 5 day offer but I 
really didn't want to have emails coming in about the subject for a 
month


Sue
suebabbs...@gmail.com

-- Original Message --
From: "Janice Blair" 
To: "lace" 
Sent: 9/29/2020 11:27:07 AM
Subject: [lace] : Free Battenburg patterns & calendar


Hi Sue,Just wanted to point out that I receive the digest version of Arachne
and as emails are less frequent these days it takes a long time for a digest
to come and even then it only contains about 6 emails. Anyway, your offer was
seen today, September 29, by me and probably many others who get the digest.
If anyone offers a raffle in the future maybe you can set a date about a month
out so everyone has a chance.
I am getting my lace fix these days in Zoom meetings of guilds I belong to and
working on new designs which will hopefully be in the Bulletin and Lace in the
next year. I have my Christmas lace already done, including my Arachne
exchange. I think this Covid thing will be around for a long time which is a
bummer.
Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, jblace.com

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[lace] : Free Battenburg patterns & calendar

2020-09-29 Thread Janice Blair
Hi Sue,Just wanted to point out that I receive the digest version of Arachne
and as emails are less frequent these days it takes a long time for a digest
to come and even then it only contains about 6 emails. Anyway, your offer was
seen today, September 29, by me and probably many others who get the digest.
If anyone offers a raffle in the future maybe you can set a date about a month
out so everyone has a chance.
I am getting my lace fix these days in Zoom meetings of guilds I belong to and
working on new designs which will hopefully be in the Bulletin and Lace in the
next year. I have my Christmas lace already done, including my Arachne
exchange. I think this Covid thing will be around for a long time which is a
bummer.
Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, jblace.com

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Re: [lace] Lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-29 Thread lynrbailey
I think there are a couple of other advantages to online classes.  It might be 
possible to get teachers from far away to give classes in the Americas.  Also, 
in Europe and Britain, where there are many more lace makers, weekly classes 
are common.  Zoom plus a phone camera makes that relatively easy.  I have often 
looks at Kantcentrum classes and wished I could take them, but when they are 
given once a week/month this is just too expensive.  In person classes should 
never go away, but this is a new technology that could work to our advantage, 
especially in the Americas, where students are frequently very far apart.

Lyn from Lancaster, PA, where the weather has been cloudier than I would like, 
but the temperatures comfortable.  Good weather for lacemaking with a pot of 
tea.



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>Hello all,
>I realize I need to clarify my response to the virtual lace classes.
>  As a student, I have a large monitor, such as a desktop, laptop, or iPad
>in front of me to watch the demonstrations, and for the teacher to see me.
>Then I have a second camera, such as a phone, mounted over my lace
>pillow so the teacher can follow what I am doing, and give
>instant feedback.
>Hope this helps.
>-Karen
>
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[lace] Lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-29 Thread Karen Thompson
Hello all,
I realize I need to clarify my response to the virtual lace classes.
  As a student, I have a large monitor, such as a desktop, laptop, or iPad
in front of me to watch the demonstrations, and for the teacher to see me.
Then I have a second camera, such as a phone, mounted over my lace
pillow so the teacher can follow what I am doing, and give
instant feedback.
Hope this helps.
-Karen

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