[lace] Re: UK Lace
Hi Ruth Lace hasn't reached all of Melbourne yet. I'm still waiting as well. Annette in Melbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ruth Budge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Thread choice, again Can't help you with the thread question, Tamara, but be assured, I still haven't got my copy of Lace either!! I know they've reached Melbourne and Adelaideso they're in this country..but where's mine??!! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Honiton lace manufacturers
Hi all I've just resubscribed after a couple of months off the list and it's nice to be back. This is one for all you history buffs I have recently met a lady who is researching and writing a book on her family history. She is a direct descendant of one Eliza Darvall, who was granted royal appointment as lace manufacturer of Honiton lace from Queen Victoria in1842. Eliza is mentioned briefly in Dr Yallop's book (but he spells her name Darwall) My friend has inherited many letters and some original designs and prickings from Charles Darvall, Eliza's son, who designed lace for his mothers business. I was wondering if any of you who have access to museums, old prickings etc.( prickings may be signed C.G.D. ) have ever come across either of these two names. Any information could help fill in some of the gaps. Thanks Annette in Melbourne Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] CTCTCT.....
Hi Debbie and Spiders Think in fours...starting with the second from the left every time...take one over ...then picking up #2 and #4...take two back. So whole stitch, or cross and twist (for me) was always one over, two back. The extra twists were called just that...an extra twist. I was wondering if anyone else learned with this terminology? Yes I've heard this one before, I've also heard One to the right, Two to the left etc The CT system is all very well but the some of the charm and mystery of lacemaking becomes lost. I have always believed that lacemaking has it's own language, and we all speak our own dialect of that same language. So I'm afraid for me it will always be a Devonshire dialect - whole stitch, half stitch and leadworks rather than tallies. Some one a few days ago said that CT was easy - like binary !! I find a string of CTCTTT just as difficult to uderstand at a glance as 1010 I have to work hard to figure out that it means a whole stitch and three twists or simply the number 10 Yours old fashionedly Annette in Melbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Research sources - threads for Honiton
Hi spiders In his book 'The history of the Honiton lace industry' Dr Yallop has quite a bit to say about the threads used for Honiton lace. It seems that in the early days linen thread was produced locally and used for Honiton. By the mid 17C imported linen thread was being used. In the early nineteenth century Messrs. Houldsworth of Manchester became spinners of fine high quality cotton yarns and offered various thicknesses in the range from No. 200 to No. 300 in 1805 adding Nos. 320, 340 and 352 in 1812. He goes on to say that in view of the large range of threads offered and their relatively low prices, these cotton threads 'virtually entirely superceded the hand spun linen thread in the Honiton lace industry' He also mentions that not much silk Honiton was produced as working in silk is difficult due to the low coefficient of friction between the fibers and Mrs Treadwin observed that 'It also requires greater care when working, to see that every bobbin is firmly tied off, otherwise the silk is apt to untie thus rendering the sprig almost useless' In view of these dates, and the information in the Staniland/Levey booklet on Queen Victoria's wedding dress and lace (1840) that the applied Honiton bobbin lace is worked with fine cotton thread and is of a high standard technically Jean said . . . I have been reading a book by Kay Staniland 'In Royal Fashion' looking for info. on Victoria's Coronation Dress. In the course of it I came across the note, Much of the lace, like Queen Victoria's wedding lace was made using fine white linen thread . . . My guess would be that the reference to linen thread is a mistake. Annette in Melbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace precursers
On Sunday, August 3, 2003 Bridget wrote: However I must persevere, as I have booked for a Binche course in February, and everybody says you need to grasp Flanders first. OK, Now you've really got me going! Surely, in the past all these different laces, being regional variations on a theme, were taught without the lace student having ANY knowledge of lace at all. Laceworkers in one village/lace school or whatever would not have been exposed to other laces first. It is quite possible for anyone to learn any lace without learning other laces first. I make and teach Honiton and I am getting SO frustrated that other lacemakers here will tell prospective students, both at demonstrations and at guild meetings, (and often in front of me) that before they can learn Honiton they must first do Torchon, Beds and Bucks. Not so. If you live in Devon - do you learn Torchon before you learn Honiton? of course you don't. I thought that this was a problem peculiar to Australia and to Honiton but apparently it happens in other parts of the world and with other laces too. So Bridget, go for it, do what you want to do and not what everybody says Just enjoy your lace. PS. Are there any of the Devon lace teachers on this list? I could do with some advice. Please respond off list. Thanks. Annette in Melbourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
