Re: [lace] Dutch Lace Pillow Question

[Debbie Stoller]

This lady has the same exact kind of half-circle pillow:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/dd/79/a7/dd79a713eed7a7ddc027022a2535c972.jpg



> On Sep 4, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Devon Thein  wrote:
>
> Dear Elena,
> There is a book, Kloppel, Kissen, Stander about pillows, bobbins and
> stands. Unfortunately it is in German. It does not have a pillow exactly
> like this one, although there are similar ones. The book, as far as I can
> tell physically describes the photos of the pillows and I don't think there
> is a lot of description beyond what is available to the eye. Interestingly,
> most of the Belgian pillows, which this resembles, have stands, as does the
> pillow in Vermeer's Lacemaker. Years ago, I was in a class with Maria
> Provencher. Someone did not have a stand and she suggested that they hold
> the pillow in their lap and put a stool under their feet, saying that this
> was how the Belgian lacemakers often worked and that it was a very
> comfortable position that they could hold for hours. I cannot tell if the
> lacemaker has a small stool under her feet. Perhaps you can tell from the
> painting. I think she might.
> I can't really read the text in the book, but I can try to describe the
> pillow in the painting. I invite others to correct this description or to
> add to it.
> I would say:the pillow is a nicely decorated version of a utilitarian
> object. Perhaps it was a special gift.  As you can see from the painting,
> there is a drawer in it (facing the viewer) that can be used to store tools
> and other objects, although the worker seems to have her scissors suspended
> from the pillow or her dress, undoubtedly signalling that they are used
> more than any other tool. The pillow is sloped on either side and maybe
> also on the part closest to the worker. The allows gravity to assist in the
> tensioning of the threads.  Although the worker appears to be making a
> straight border, she is not using a roller for her work surface. Presumably
> she will have to move the work up from time to time, which seems a little
> bit cumbersome. I don't know if they didn't have roller pillows in this era
> or if the artist thought it would be a less effective painting. It looks to
> me as though she is trying to shorten the thread on her bobbin, possibly by
> using a pin to loosen the hitch on the bobbin so that she can roll the
> thread onto it, turning the bobbin toward the pillow. I expect that she
> uses the continental way of winding the bobbins, which is what I use. So,
> she would hold the bobbin that way when shortening, turning it horizontally
> the opposite way when lengthening it.
> The bobbins are bulbed bobbins which are common on the continent, verses
> the straight spangled bobbins of the English. Bulbed bobbins allow the
> worker to tension easily by tugging the bobbin slightly when ever she picks
> it up.
> I have no idea what purpose the black appendage on the top of the pillow
> serves. It doesn't look like the sort of thing that you wind finished lace
> on, or protect finished lace in. Maybe it is simply decorative?
> What have I left out or gotten wrong?
> Devon
>
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Re: [lace] Lace books and tools

[Debbie Stoller]

Hi Loia,

If you have any roller pillows I'd be super interested in that. BUt I'm not
sure if you are selling those.

thanks in advance.

---
Debbie Stoller


On Jul 23, 2018, at 7:24 AM, Lois Baker wrote:

> Thanks to all for the suggestions about finding new homes for my lacemaking
tools.  Pillows and bobbins are still here, and I've just listed several
lacemaking books on Amazon:  http://tinyurl.com/y8ewrhvz -- includes some
classics, some hard-to-find and out of print items -- almost all are in
like-new condition.
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> Wish I had more time for lace!
>
> Lois
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[lace] bookmark received :)

[Debbie Mouzon]

Hope you are all doing well.

Today I received my bookmark gift from Lin Hudren.  It is pretty amazing
how busy she must be to have sent me 5 bookmarks!

She sent a lovely tatted magnetic bookmark and the most adorable little
hedgehog that you can imagine (we lacemakers are rather partial to our
hedghogs, no?)

A stingray corner book mark, and a leaf stem along with an angel !!

Thank you Lin for the gift!  Can't wait to see them all in the website
Jenny puts together!!

Looking forward to doing this again next year!

Debbie in Florida

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[lace] pin use question

[Debbie Mouzon]

I am afraid I do not post often these days.

I have been making lace since 1983 and this October/November will be 40
years since I first touched a lace bobbin.  I learned from some wonderful
women in England and spent the 18 months that I had left in that country in
classes of one sort or another.  Lace Days with speakers like Pamela
Nottingham, Santina Levy...lots of incredible opportunities.  I have been
making lace or teaching lace ever since.

Except lately.  At this time I am going through chemo therapy treatments
for cancer that was discovered at the end of this past summer. Started
chemo the end of October.  I have three more treatments left.  The drugs
that I am getting right now have caused neuropathy in my fingers and
feet.  The pain in the fingertips makes it difficult and even painful to
remove and place pins, etc.

I have never considered the glass headed pins as a possibility, but I am
looking into it now if means that I can keep making lace while the
neuropathy is there.  Also, I think patterns with few pin holes might be
the ticket...Any suggestions?

Has anyone else had problems with neuropathy and found other ways to make
lace while dealing with it?

Any advice or info will be greatly appreciated!
Debbie in Florida
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[lace] Bookmarks pictures

[Debbie Mouzon]

I also received a lovely tatted bookmark from Robin D! She told me that she
sent it before she'd taken a picture of it... I can do that for you if you
would like me to Robin. It is so pretty, and needs to be admired by others
besides my small circle of friends!
As long as I am talking about sending in photos, someone please remind me
where we are supposed to send them and by when :)
Thank you again Robin for your gift...it is appreciated!
Debbie in FL
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On Jun 24, 2013 11:16 AM, Alan  Sheila Brown alan.d.br...@tesco.net
wrote:

 Today's post brought a lovely, multicoloured, tatted bookmark.What a
 marvelous way to start the week which should be sunny but is very cloudy.

 Sheila in Sawbridgeworth

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[lace] List

[Debbie Mouzon]

Hi all...
I am really trying to delurk...hopefully this works ;)
Debbie in Florida
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[lace] anniversaries, delurking and stuff

[Debbie Mouzon]

I am surprised to see that this list is almost 20!  Some years back, one of
the members had a list that was the oldest one we could find of Arachne
members, and I was on it.  Not sure when I joined, but it was not long
after we had access to America Online (remember? when you paid by the
minute that you were online?)

I have been out of the lace world for awhile now, and am anxious to get
started back.  I finally realized if I wait for perfect timing...the things
I have put off will never happen.

So, there is a local lace group and I am about to start going to their
meetings, I have signed up for the bookmark exchange, and I am posting on
Arachne again...whew.

I learned to make lace in 1983 while living in England and went to classes
at the local Tech college every week for over 18 months.  I started with
lessons from a sweet lacemaker who had inherited most of her tools from an
older lacemaker who lived with her.

My first lace day in England saw the purchase of a Hornsby lace pillow bag,
and Newnham pillow, a glass bobbin and an antique mother-and-babe with
twins...

I enjoy cross stitching, crocheting (only granny squares), hand-sewing,
smocking and spinning (that is until I found out I was allergic to sheep's
wool...)

Once I started lacemaking, there was enough new things to learn to keep my
mind occupied for the rest of my life!  In England, I learned to make
Torchon, Bedfordshire, Bucks Point and Honiton.  My favorite by far is
Bucks Point.

When I was starting out, my children were little, and loved to have a go at
my lace pillow.  My daughter used to attend demonstrations with me, and I
would set her up with her own pillow.  At about 8, she abandoned it.  That
is until just recently when after being away from it for about 20+ years,
she sat down and made a beautiful bookmark in Torchon with minimal help
from me!!  Also, my daughter-in-law has asked me to help her learn.

Right now, I have a fine Torchon edging on one of my pillows and a church
on the other one.  I think i will get back to work on this church and
finish it...it has been much too long!!

Glad to be back...all the discussions on lurking are probably what pulled
me back in again...thank you!

Debbie in Jacksonville
mouzo...@gmail.com

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[lace] delurking, what's on my pillow, and other stuff

[Debbie Mouzon]

I am surprised to see that this list is almost 20!  Some years back, one of
the members had a list that was the oldest one we could find of Arachne
members, and I was on it.  Not sure when I joined, but it was not long
after we had access to America Online (remember? when you paid by the
minute that you were online?)

I have been out of the lace world for awhile now, and am anxious to get
started back.  I finally realized if I wait for perfect timing...the things
I have put off will never happen.

So, there is a local lace group and I am about to start going to their
meetings, I have signed up for the bookmark exchange, and I am posting on
Arachne again...whew.

I learned to make lace in 1983 while living in England and went to classes
at the local Tech college every week for over 18 months.  I started with
lessons from a sweet lacemaker who had inherited most of her tools from an
older lacemaker who lived with her.

My first lace day in England saw the purchase of a Hornsby lace pillow bag,
and Newnham pillow, a glass bobbin and an antique mother-and-babe with
twins...

I enjoy cross stitching, crocheting (only granny squares), hand-sewing,
smocking and spinning (that is until I found out I was allergic to sheep's
wool...)

Once I started lacemaking, there was enough new things to learn to keep my
mind occupied for the rest of my life!  In England, I learned to make
Torchon, Bedfordshire, Bucks Point and Honiton.  My favorite by far is
Bucks Point.

When I was starting out, my children were little, and loved to have a go at
my lace pillow.  My daughter used to attend demonstrations with me, and I
would set her up with her own pillow.  At about 8, she abandoned it.  That
is until just recently when after being away from it for about 20+ years,
she sat down and made a beautiful bookmark in Torchon with minimal help
from me!!  Also, my daughter-in-law has asked me to help her learn.

Right now, I have a fine Torchon edging on one of my pillows and a church
on the other one.  I think i will get back to work on this church and
finish it...it has been much too long!!

Glad to be back...all the discussions on lurking are probably what pulled
me back in again...thank you!

Debbie in Jacksonville
mouzo...@gmail.com

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Re: [lace] Toender Lace

[debbie]

Same here. My computer does not recognize that
symbol. I think it may be because it's Hebrew
enabled. That symbol shows up as a Hebrew letter.
I tried changing it with several different
letters and no go. Apparently, the way Julian set
up that page's name, it will only work with that
symbol. And, he doesn't have it linked on his
main page. At least, I couldn't find it. So, I
went into the archives, and lo and behold, after
waiting many hours for the archives to update,
the URL there shows up with the symbol.

http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/

Truly amazing work, David!

Debbie in Jerusalem

At 02:44 PM 2/13/2009 +1100, David in Ballarat wrote:
Julian,


And if by magic here are the
pictures of his exquisite Tønder Lace edging for you to admire:

http://www.margorsson.com/David_Collyer_Tønder_Gallery.html

How come the link doesn't work for me???
I've tried going from your homepage, and even
replacing the Danish o with an English one, but still get an error message
David

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Re: [lace] Re: Lacemaking tool

[debbie]

OK, I'll bite. Looks to me like it could be an old cookie press. 
Under the first disk with holes you can see the next one will holes 
placed differently. Could be a set of different patterns.

Debbie

At 10:58 AM 11/16/2007 +, you wrote:
Hi All,

Just my four penn'orth!It looks to me as if it is the parts from 
the inside of an old sewing box - thread reels and pin/needle 
holders, and suchlike. My mother and my sister have items just 
like that in their antique sewing boxes.

Carol - in Suffolk UK

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Subject: [lace] Re: Lacemaking tool


Does the smaller top part, looks like it has a knob at the top, 
unscrew? Does the bone/ivory part come out of the wooden casing 
completely?  It looks like it should come out of it's casing.

Is so then cold it be some kind of sewing kit, holding sewing 
needles/reel of thread or something like that?  An Etui I think is 
the spelling.

Regards
Jenny DeAngelis
Spain.
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Re: [lace] Another eBay thingy

[debbie]

Malvary does have a point (pun intended, if you like). The end of the 
thingy does look like the yad (hand) that is used to point at the 
words in the Torah! I know nothing about the chocolate thingys, so 
can't compare. But, the length of the yad is usually not longer than 
about 8 and the 2 end of the handle is definitely not something 
I've ever seen on a yad. It would actually make it kind of clumsy.

Debbie in Jerusalem

At 09:28 AM 11/10/2007 -0500, you wrote:
When I looked at it the first thing that sprang to mind is the 
do-hickey (don't know its correct name) that is used in synagogues 
to follow the words of the Torah when you are reading.  Avital or 
Miriam might know, but we probably won't hear from them at the moment.

Probably isn't, but other than that I can't think of anything 
else.  I think it is very interesting.

Malvary in Ottawa (the Nation's Capital), Canada

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I've just come across another of those odd things on eBay that makes 
me say, Wha...?.  Item # 250185020238.
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Re: [lace] Lacefairy's Other Textile Art

[debbie]

Thanks for your votes! Lori Howe and I both placed in Honorable Mention!

http://www.quiltuniversity.com/quilt_show_winners.htm

On a different note, I will be leaving tomorrow for close to three 
weeks in the states. Does anyone know of any lace related things to 
see in the NYC/NJ area?

On my schedule is to attend the NJ Quilt Show next Friday, the 8th. 
If anyone else is planning to be there, please let me know!

Debbie

At 05:17 AM 5/13/2007 +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I also have a quilt in that quilt show. It's in a different section,
so you can vote for both of us!

http://www.quiltuniversity.com/QuiltShow/quiltshow_index2.htm

Thanks,

Debbie in Jerusalem

At 07:54 PM 5/12/2007 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Lacemakers,
 
 In addition to her addiction to lace, our Lacefairy makes art quilts!
 
 She has entered a quilt contest (sorry - no lace) online and I think you
 might like to view it and vote for her quilt, if you like it.   Her name
 associated with the quilt is:  Lori Howe.
 
 http://www.quiltuniversity.com/QuiltShow/quiltshow_index.htm
 
 The image is of a grandson, and is made of many many tiny squares.
 
 Jeri Ames in Maine USA
 Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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Re: [lace] Lacefairy's Other Textile Art

[debbie]

I also have a quilt in that quilt show. It's in a different section, 
so you can vote for both of us!

http://www.quiltuniversity.com/QuiltShow/quiltshow_index2.htm

Thanks,

Debbie in Jerusalem

At 07:54 PM 5/12/2007 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Lacemakers,

In addition to her addiction to lace, our Lacefairy makes art quilts!

She has entered a quilt contest (sorry - no lace) online and I think you
might like to view it and vote for her quilt, if you like it.   Her name
associated with the quilt is:  Lori Howe.

http://www.quiltuniversity.com/QuiltShow/quiltshow_index.htm

The image is of a grandson, and is made of many many tiny squares.

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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Results! Re: [lace] Spanish Lace Stamps Raffle

[debbie]

There were 36 entries.  As they came in I put them in a separate 
mailbox. This morning I printed out the numbers 1-36, then, the 
old-fashioned way, I cut them I folded them up and had my daughter 
choose three.

Congratulations to:

Irene Whitham of Canada
Lesley Griffiths of the UK
Debbie Mouzon of Florida

I have Irene's and Lesley's addresses.  Debbie, please send me your address.

I will get them mailed within the next couple of days.

Thanks for the fun!  And, thanks, again, to Eva for sending the extra stamps.

Debbie in Jerusalem


At 10:14 AM 2/9/2007 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Spanish lace stamps raffle also ends on Sunday night! You can see
the stamps here: http://harnofonline.com/images/SpanishLaceStamps.jpg

Have a good weekend!

Debbie in Jerusalem
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[lace] Spanish Lace Stamps Raffle

[debbie]

The Spanish lace stamps raffle also ends on Sunday night! You can see 
the stamps here: http://harnofonline.com/images/SpanishLaceStamps.jpg

Have a good weekend!

Debbie in Jerusalem
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[lace] Raffle for stamps

[debbie]

Last month Bev, in Sooke BC, had a raffle for some extra lace type 
stamps she had around. I won them and when I wrote to the list that I 
received them, I received a lovely email from Eva in Spain, wanting 
to know if my stamp collector son would like some of the lace stamps 
that she has. I said, sure, why not. Well, in addition to several 
stamps from France, Eva generously sent a whole bunch of duplicate 
sets (plates? panels?, don't know what they're called) of really 
beautiful Spanish lace stamps. You can see them here:
http://harnofonline.com/images/SpanishLaceStamps.jpg

So, I'm offering up some of the duplicates in a raffle. I'll give it 
about two weeks, let's say until Sunday, the 4th of February, and 
then draw a few names. Just hit reply to this email (the default is 
to the sender, but make sure my email address is in the to 
field).  If you are on digest, please use the same subject line as this email.

Good luck!

Happy Australia Day!

Have a great weekend,

Debbie in Jerusalem

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Re: [lace] stamp raffle winner

[debbie]

Thanks, Bev!  I've seen talk about lace stamps many times over the 
years, but have never seen one.  My stamp collector son would love to 
add them to his collection.  Thanks to everyone for participating in 
the drawings.  That's how they will continue.  They are fun.

BTW, just after I read Bev's message, I listened to a message on my 
answering machine that I won a painting at a charity Chinese auction 
that I went to last night!  I guess 12/12 was a lucky day for me!

Debbie in Jerusalem

At 08:33 PM 12/12/2006 -0800, bevw wrote:
Hi all
I received 25 names. Each name was typed on a piece of paper, the papers
folded and put into a hat.
I had to wait until this evening for someone else besides myself to be
closest to the hat - DH pulled the name, and the winner is

Debbie Markowitz.
going in the mail asap.

Thankyou everyone who took part and all the lovely little e-mails - may I
recommend a 'raffle' like this to anyone who wants a bunch of cheerful mail
:)

Like the various exchanges, a raffle can happen any time someone wants to do
one. There is no $ involved except for the postage, which is a small price,
if something nice can find a new home ;)

--
Bev in Sooke BC (on a sunny spot of Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)

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Re: [lace] lace tool

[debbie]

To me it looks like an ordinary crochet hook slipped into a carved 
wooden handle.  Taking into consideration that it's larger than 
life-size on my monitor, I estimate it to be an American Size 13 or 
14 crochet hook.

Debbie

At 07:54 AM 9/5/2006 -0500, Sue Babbs wrote:
Sorry I don't know where you got that one - looks useful, but I 
couldn't get your [picture to load from the link you gave and found 
this one worked for me (and may do for others)
http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/tool
Sue
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http://www.geocities.com/carolgallego/tool.html

This is a two/three uses tool: hook on one side and push/pull pins 
on the other.
Anybody can give me some clue where to find it, any lace 
supplier... I cannot get it here in Spain.

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Re: [lace] Piecework magazine

[debbie]

If it's Interweave's Piecework you're talking about, looks like 
they're still OK:
http://www.interweave.com/needle/default.asp

At 06:43 AM 8/25/2006 -0400, you wrote:
I asked my newsagent to make enquiries as there was no sign of the next issue
arriving.  she was informed by the suppliers that it has ceased publication
:-(  Is this really so?  I don't entirely trust the local Smiths wholesalers.

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Re: [lace] safety

[debbie]

At 05:40 PM 8/2/2006 -0500, you wrote:
We heard from Miriam. How about Avital??? Any one else in Israel?
...And I  complain about a little hot weather.
Loving regards
BarbE



Thanks for asking, Barb!

The weather had been great.  Within the past few days the temperature 
has been slowly going up until it's now in the 90's just like what 
you guys have.  In Jerusalem, it's not humid, so it's not so bad.  We 
do have a/c.


OK, that's not what you asked about

The northern parts of the country (and the very far south, near Gaza) 
are the areas being bombarded with rockets and missiles.  I'm in 
Jerusalem and Avital is in a suburb of Jerusalem, where, so far, it's 
been quiet.  Here and in most locations in the center of the country 
and I imagine in the south, too, we are hosting refugee families from 
the northern cities.  About 1/2 of the citizens of the north have 
gone south, rather than stay cooped up in the bomb shelters.


We have a separate entrance, small guest room.  The mother and young 
children of a family are staying in a girls dorm in my community, and 
the father is staying in our small room.  I don't even know what his 
name is!  We were matched up by one of a number of people that have 
volunteered to match up the offers with the seekers.


It happens that he can stay downstairs only for another week, as we 
have many guests coming from out of the country for my daughter's 
wedding in 2 1/2 weeks.


To keep this needlework related.  I am working feverishly on the 
chuppah (wedding canopy) for the wedding.  I started this several 
years ago, intending it to be a family heirloom. I've worked on it on 
and off over the years.  This will be it's first wedding.  When they 
got engaged less than three months ago, I estimate it was about 
80-90% done.  But, it will be down to the wire.


There's no lace on it.  I made some crochet lace for it, but decided 
against using it.  There's some patchwork and appliques, but it's 
mostly embroidery and beading, done with silk ribbon and silk 
threads.  You'll see pictures of it one day, I suppose.


Debbie in Jerusalem  


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[lace-chat] Beeton's

[debbie]

It's available for free here:
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/15147


At 10:10 PM 02/25/2006 -0500, you wrote:

Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:38:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Alice Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [lace-chat] ebay ?

- --- Melinda Weasenforth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just a
 question, this item is on ebay, but the person says
 that there is not shipping
 and handling because after she receives the money
 she will email a copy to the
 winner, is that legal?  its ebay item
#8261102086.

Yes, it's probably legal.  The material is older than
1923.  It is most likely no longer under copyright.
The cost is very low.  You can buy it from her, or you
can search out a copy, scan it into your computer page
by page for yourself.  Your cost and time for doing
this would be much more than the $4 price on the email
copy.

When a person gets this long email, it can be saved to
CD if preferred.  Since it's not shipped, there would
be no shipping cost.

This is just a modern version of the photocopied books
and articles offered on eBay.

Alice in Oregon -- PNW Conference registration starts
March 1


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Re: [lace] Question about an Irish Crochet book

[debbie]

She's probably talking about this ebook that's free for resale that's been 
going around for the past year.  Following is just one way that I searched 
for it, there are probably a lot more available with a less refined search.


http://search-desc.ebay.com/irish-Crochet-and-How-to-Make-It_W0QQamp;sspagenameZhQ3ahQ3aadvsearchQ3aUSQQcatrefZC5QQfbdZ1QQfclZ3QQflocZ1QQfromZR6QQfrppZ100QQfsclZ1QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfssZ0QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQftsZ2QQnojsprZyQQpfidZ0QQsacatZQ2d1QQsacqyopZgeQQsacurZ0QQsadisZ200QQsargnZQ2d1QQsaslcZ0QQsaslopZ1QQsatitleZQ22irishQ20CrochetQ20andQ20HowQ20toQ20MakeQ20ItQ22QQsofocusZbs

If that link is broken, just put Irish Crochet and How to Make It in the 
Ebay item search using 'exact phrase'.


At 05:17 PM 11/18/2005 +1000, you wrote:

Greetings,
Just had a phone call from a friend that has an unrealistic opinion of my
ability to find things on the net! She is looking for a book called 'Irish
Crochet and How to Make It - 100 Patterns'. No author's name. No ISBN.
That's it. Must be a big book to have that many patterns! It is supposed to
be available all over the world. Not on any of my lists.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Jackie in sunny but mild Brisbane, Australia

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Re: [lace] Selling on Ebay

[debbie]

Brenda,

I buy and sell on Ebay (I've been taking a bit of a break on selling), so I 
will give you some of my opinions on your questions, mostly where I differ 
from those who have replied already on the list.


At 12:56 PM 09/25/2005 +0100, you wrote:
I realise that I'll need to open a PayPal account, (or restrict it to GBP 
cheques and clear the cheques before parting with the goods).
I've resisted PayPal in the past for my own book sales because of the high 
charges - it works out at 55p on a single book or 3-07 GBP on a trade 
order for ten books.


As a buyer, I don't even bother with auctions that do not take 
Paypal.  There is rarely anything I need badly enough that I would go 
through the trouble of making a non-electronic payment.  I could pay with 
Bidpay, but that costs me extra, and Paypal is free as a buyer.


Someone on the list mentioned about not accepting credit cards through 
Paypal and only opening a non-credit card account.  Sometime in August, 
they changed the rules and you may not accept Paypal on Ebay without 
accepting credit card payments.  Therefore, there is no way to avoid the 
Paypal charges.


As a seller, I only accept Paypal.  Being in Israel, accepting checks or 
money orders would be too much of a hassle for me.  Not worth the chance of 
having more customers or higher bids.  Besides, I love seeing the money 
immediately, or almost immediately, and I love being able to ship 
immediately.  Even though my items take about a week to get there, my 
buyers often claim fast shipping in the feedback.


1,  The minimum reserve price with Ebay is 50 GBP.  If I'm realistically 
hoping for about 25 GBP for an item then a reserve price is not an 
option.  Should I therefore set the opening bid at what I consider the 
reserve price to be, say 20 GBP?  If I set it very low and someone bids 
just a penny more am I obliged to sell?


There are experienced sellers on Ebay, with high feedback scores, that 
start their auctions very low.  They can do that successfully because they 
know that the bids will usually rise to what the item is really worth, due 
to their reputation.  As a low feedback or new seller, you should start 
your bids at the lowest price you would be willing to sell at.


2,  There are a lot of low value items - would it be better to put these 
into 'lots' ie five different lace mats, or try to sell each item 
individually?  Postage on five is likely to be the same as postage on one, 
it's the packaging that costs!


Items that are really only worth $1. or so each should definitely by listed 
in lots.  Preparing a listing (photos, text, etc.) is time consuming and 
the low value items are not worth your time individually.  The extra Ebay 
charges do add up, too.


3,  Most of the items would benefit from laundering to freshen them 
up!  A mammoth task, so would it harm the dresses if I iron them 
unlaundered in order to get a decent photo?


I get the impression that most of the items you are selling are not worth a 
lot individually, so, again, I don't think it's worth your time to work too 
hard on it.  You should state the condition of the item honestly, in the 
listing.  Yellowing, stains, possibly where they are located, if you think 
it's important.  And state that it is being sold as is.


Good luck and please let us know your Ebay ID when you do start selling.

Debbie 


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Re: [lace] Selling on Ebay

[debbie]

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/paypal-payments.html?ssPageName=CMDV:AB

There are many people still doing it, doesn't mean it's OK.  Many are being 
turned in and having their auctions ended.  If you state no credit card 
paypal in your auction terms, you run the risk of coming across a nasty 
buyer or a jealous competitor who will turn you in.


At 09:21 AM 09/26/2005 -0700, Barbara Joyce wrote:

 Someone on the list mentioned about not accepting credit cards through
 Paypal and only opening a non-credit card account.  Sometime in August,
 they changed the rules and you may not accept Paypal on Ebay without
 accepting credit card payments.  Therefore, there is no way to avoid the
 Paypal charges.

This is incorrect, in my experience. My husband continues to offer stamps on
eBay to collectors, and our payment terms include PayPal with a balance or
bank transfer, no credit cards. Our PayPal account remains a personal
account, no fees to us, and we continue to collect on ebay sales via PayPal.

Barbara Joyce
Snoqualmie, WA
USA

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Re: [lace] Eye candy for lace knitters

[debbie]

A few days late with a reply, but I'd like to thank Brenda for showing us 
these sites.  A lot of beautiful pieces there.  One in particular caught my 
eye.


On the first page of the Michael Kaprelian site there is a hexagonal shaped 
doily that I'd like to get the pattern for (5th from the bottom.)  I did a 
search and came up with this: 
http://melody.virelai.net/blog/c/archives/2005/07/07T152313 I was wondering 
if anyone here has the publication referred to and can tell me if the 
pattern is in there and possibly any contact info so I can try to find out 
if it's available.


I could write to Michael, but there is no email address on his site, only a 
guest book.  I will use that if I need to.


BTW, as to my interest in that particular doily, I collect hexagonal shaped 
items.  Buttons, beads, small(trinket) boxes, etc.


Thanks,

Debbie


At 09:26 PM 08/28/2005 +0100, Brenda Paternoster wrote:

Deaar Spiders
I've recently learned of two websites with images of knitted lace:

Michael Kaprelian
http://www.angelfire.com/on2/fwlaceknitter/

Melanie Ellingson
http://www.imageevent.com/melaniee

Brenda
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/


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[lace] Japanese Tatting book

[debbie]

The Japanese Tatting book that I won in Steph's drawing has arrived.  It 
sure is a beautiful book.  The photography is great!

I'd love to be able to read the captions and descriptions, 
though.  Japanese can be translated in Google, but that doesn't help 
me.  How am I supposed to get those weird characters into google, 
LOL!  Gotta find someone here in Jerusalem who can read Japanese. Avital??G

Thanks very much, Steph!!
Have a great weekend,
Debbie
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Re: [lace] Japanese tatting book draw winner

[debbie]

Woo Hoo!  Thanks!  I love books and this will be my second book on 
tatting.  I've done very little tatting, but maybe this will encourage 
me.  It happens that my first book has been lent out, to Avital, so we know 
it's in good hands.  Now that I will have another book to lend her, it'll 
be a good excuse to see each other, LOL!

Some time ago I bought all the supplies needed to make bobbin lace, 
including videos to teach me how.  I've only gotten as far as spangling 
some bobbins.  I WILL get to it one of these days.  In the meantime, I am 
crocheting some lace fans and edgings.  Also, some leaves and flowers in 
the Irish Crochet style.  I will be using all those pieces in a large, long 
term project that I'm working on, mounting them and combining them with 
embroidery.

Thanks, Steph.  I look forward to receiving the book.  I've sent you my 
address separately.

Debbie in Jerusalem
At 09:59 PM 1/17/2005 +, Steph Peters wrote:
There were 58 entries to the draw for the Japanese tatting book as at the
closing date.  DH drew number 41 out of the hat; the lucky winner is Debbie
Markowitz.  Debbie please send me your address privately and I will send you
the book.
Sorry everyone couldn't be a winner.
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Re: [lace] Tess Prof work on ebay

[debbie]

Similar issue, on a larger scale.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5773907/
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Re: [lace] ebay lace books collection

[debbie]

FWIW, the seller has the following near the end of her listing:
To the best of my knowledge, all data in this CD was gathered from public 
domain sources. No charge is being made for the contents of this cd only 
materials and for my time to collect, organize and distribute.

H...
Debbie
At 08:55 AM 8/18/2004 +0200, Avital wrote:
Anything that's on the Web and unprotected can be burned onto a CD. If you
don't want the files in a public area where anyone could copy them, it would
be a good idea to set up a password-protected site.
Best wishes,
Avital
- Original Message -
I have told many of you that the CDs you get from me cost only what I have
put into my share of the work, supplies, mailing,and so on.  The Professor
asks nothing.  We both agree that any of you who want to copy them are
absolutely free to do so, but we hope that no one will try to make a profit
from it, as this person is obviously wanting to do.
Shame on her!
Tess ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Re: [lace] Orvus

[debbie]

Yep.  Same stuff as the horse soap.  Just costs a lot more when they put it 
in a small jar and call it Quilt Soap, or Fabricare, etc.

Debbie

At 09:38 AM 10/16/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Once in a while the name Orvus pops up, as a cleaning agent for lace.
I just did a search on Google, and only got Orvus WAPaste as a janitorial 
supply,
and Orvus as a dog or horse shampoo!
Are these all the same product?
I did actually find one under the name Fabricare, where the contents were 
stated to be '100% Orvus'
Esther Perry
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[lace] Hello from a lurker

[debbie]

I joined some time ago and have been lurking, reading the digest.  I most 
enjoy reading about your current projects and seeing photos of your 
work.  I am not a lacemaker, but I love reading about it, looking at 
pictures, buying and collecting, and using it!  I have crocheted (among 
other things) since I was a young child and made some pieces of crocheted 
lace now and then.

Within the past year I decided that I'd like to learn tatting.  About six 
months ago I bought a tatting shuttle.  I would rather learn shuttle 
tatting than needle tatting, as I feel the needle tatting is too much like 
crochet.  I have seen loads of sites with instructions on tatting, but they 
don't do anything for me.  I need to see someone actually doing it in 
person.  Where I am, in Jerusalem, there is not exactly an abundance of 
fine needlework teachers around.  I'm hoping that Avital might be reading 
this and would be able to steer me to someone in the Jerusalem area who 
could teach me shuttle tatting.

I have a question.  I do a lot of lace watching on ebay.  I recently came 
across the following two auctions that made me wonder about something.  How 
can you tell, by looking at photos such as the ones in these auction, if a 
lace is handmade or machine made?  The seller claims that they are 
handmade, but they look just like pieces of lace that I have that are 
machine made.  At least I'm pretty sure that the ones that I have are 
machine made, by the price that I've paid for them!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2548022631category=2219

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2548023820category=2219

Good night,

Debbie in Jerusalem 

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