RE: [lace] About Jeri's Posts
In my experience, life frequently follows the 80/20 rule, where 80% of the work is done by 20% of the people, and the same seems to apply to Arachne. There are prolific contributors, and some who lurk and never post, and others who post from time to time when there is something they feel they can comment on. All members of any group should be made to feel they have equal worth, regardless of what contribution they make. It is unfortunate that a specific lace group was mentioned by Jeri. I am friends with many of the members of that group, and most of them will not post on Arachne because they feel that they are not as erudite as some of those who regularly post. If their personal opinion is that they have nothing "worthy" to say, then why should they write? I wonder how many other Arachne members might feel the same way? I do not comment on Jeri's posts - even though it is clear that they are very thoroughly researched. They are most likely of great interest to some members, but I skim them because I am usually only casually interested in reading about a topic in such detail. Being a very active volunteer in many groups, I have given up expecting thanks or even an acknowledgement of my contribution. That goes with the territory, I'm afraid. Sometimes I get down-hearted, but for the most part I enjoy what I do and am pleased when I hear that others also enjoy it. I admit that getting a 'thank you' once in a while is very gratifying, but it is not my motivation. Jill in Milton Keynes, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] About Jeri's posts
Hi Liz and Spiders, That reminds me of a time when someone was complaining that the Lace Day didn't have the suppliers she wanted. 'Well - I'll nominate you for the Committee, and then you;'ll have an input and, if you become the Events person, you can do it all yourself.' Same reaction as yours - not another word spoken, and no new member on the Committee! Carol - in North Norfolk UK. 'Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day.' - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Ligeti To: lace@arachne.com Cc: Sent: Monday, 18 August 2014, 2:40 I upset someone, very early on in the Guild (1980's) who was complaining there was "nothing much in the new magazine"- I asked if she had contributed anything?. What?!!! That was Far beneath her, by her haughty response!!! Contributing to magazines was for the lower class of lacemakers, obviously. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] About Jeri's posts
"Some folk are very quick to criticize/voice their disapproval but how often do any of them contribute an article to a guild bulletin to which they subscribe I wonder?.. Oh dear! Don't start me on this one!! :) I have long said that if no-one contributes to magazines, there won't be a magazine to receive and read. Editors only collate the articles that are submitted, - they don't write the whole magazine themselves!! I upset someone, very early on in the Guild (1980's) who was complaining there was "nothing much in the new magazine"- I asked if she had contributed anything?. What?!!! That was Far beneath her, by her haughty response!!! Contributing to magazines was for the lower class of lacemakers, obviously. Me and my big mouth!!! I promptly said that if she did not contribute anything she had no right to grumble.! She never spoke to me again - No great loss!! I try to contribute something one a year to each of the guilds I am in ( 4 guilds and 4 Lace chat groups - or is that 5 of each?!!! I think I may have an addiction...!!!) Regards from Liz in Melbourne - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] About Jeri's Posts
Dear Jeri Thank you for your words of wisdom and yes, I'm afraid we are all guilty at times of taking for granted the various lace bulletins/newsletters that we subscribe to. I've lost count of the number of times I've been told when enquiring why an individual has not renewed her membership, that there is little of interest in it's contents to her. Some folk are very quick to criticize/voice their disapproval but how often do any of them contribute an article to a guild bulletin to which they subscribe I wonder? The odd 'thank you' or acknowledgement would be much appreciated but perhaps better to send to the individual whose article we have enjoyed reading rather than have dozens of 'me too's' cluttering up the Arachne mail box. We'd all do well to remember that without these dedicated folk's contributions, we might well have no bulletins/articles whatsoever to read/subscribe to! Catherine Barley UK Catherine Barley Needlelace www.catherinebarley.com - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 9:47 PM Subject: [lace] About Jeri's Posts Dear Lace Friends Around the World, Your input has been encouraging. Not only for me, but I hope for the other regular contributors to Arachne who spend hours in thoughtful research to confirm what they write before hitting Send Now. A note to them once in a while telling how you used the information they shared would be encouraging. When Arachne was very young I begged some prominent American lace experts to participate. The summary of their attitudes was: 1. It is too much work 2. People do not appreciate volunteer efforts 3. No one ever says "thank you" 4. It is a subject ridiculed both publicly and at home 5. Public disagreement is bad for my lace business We should wrap up this subject. Before we do - please tell the regular editors, writers, translators, and proofreaders of your lace-related newsletters and Guild bulletins how much you appreciate their gifts of time and knowledge. It really does take a long time to prepare thoughtful information for you, requiring much reading, consultation with others, memories, and so forth, and then condensing salient details into information bites. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] About Jeri's Posts
Dear Lace Friends Around the World, You've created quite a love festival for me in the last 2 days, since I wrote a reply to Lyn about the Little Danish Heart Pattern on the 14th. If you did not see it, the last paragraph prompted quite an ado. It was not about my on-going AOL e-mail delivery problems, but the following: "I was told again this week, that people do not read what I write on Arachne. So sorry, since my free-to-you contributions might suggest a subject for dinner conversation or a local lace group meeting. Maybe I am just writing for future researchers who will delve into Arachne archives? Or, maybe our archives will die and evaporate (as our early correspondence seemingly did), and all will have been for naught." Your input has been encouraging. Not only for me, but I hope for the other regular contributors to Arachne who spend hours in thoughtful research to confirm what they write before hitting Send Now. A note to them once in a while telling how you used the information they shared would be encouraging. When Arachne was very young I begged some prominent American lace experts to participate. The summary of their attitudes was: 1. It is too much work 2. People do not appreciate volunteer efforts 3. No one ever says "thank you" 4. It is a subject ridiculed both publicly and at home 5. Public disagreement is bad for my lace business Last year, at a New England Lace Group meeting, some women mentioned reading my Arachne memos. I asked them to please write to Arachne, because it is known they have much first-hand lace knowledge. Oh! No! You would have thought I asked them to commit a crime. A lot could be said about these attitudes, but I will leave the subject for all to ponder. My motive is to share the many resources located here in a Maine home, and especially to bring the history of women to you all in small bites. Women have always been remarkable in their accomplishments, and not often given credit or thanks. Not only in textile production (which has been traced back to artifacts made in prehistoric times), but also as mothers, teachers, nurses, community volunteers, members of religious orders. It is encouraging that some of our very well-educated 20th Century female scholars are digging deeply into old archives now to bring us more validation. This will help us all to appreciate history as more than memorizing dates of wars, reigns, inventions, sports achievements, scandals, etc. We should wrap up this subject. Before we do - please tell the regular editors, writers, translators, and proofreaders of your lace-related newsletters and Guild bulletins how much you appreciate their gifts of time and knowledge. It really does take a long time to prepare thoughtful information for you, requiring much reading, consultation with others, memories, and so forth, and then condensing salient details into information bites. May you never have to retro-lace! Jeri - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
