Fw: [lace] Before lace

2008-04-26 Thread Sue
My what I did before BL contains, knitting from about age 3 (more holes than 
stitches to begin with I would think).
Learned to crochet in my 20's.  Had been making many of my own clothes both 
knitted and sewing from about age 12.  Made one of my sisters wedding dress 
in 1977 plus all her bridesmaids outfits (all 6 of us).
Made outfits for our living history camping as well as 2 tents, a marque and 
a tipi from 1995 - 2006.

Did a little embroidery, have tried tatting, but am failing miserably.

Wanted to learn bobbin lace in the 1980's when I saw the kit but didn't buy 
it.  Finally found one about 12 years later which I did buy.  Tried to learn 
on my own from a book using sewing cotton but felt I didn't understand what 
I was doing and my husband searched for a video which he didn't find, but 
did find me a place to learn 2 hours each week.  I thought I would learn to 
prepare bobbins and understand the half stitch and whole stitch and would be 
find to carry on on my own.
Oh foolish me  I started lessons in September 2001, 4 years later I had 
to stop going to lessons just before my teacher retired anyway.  Just as I 
was on my last lesson, someone mention lace groups on the internet which 
sounded a weird thing, (how on earth could you learn bobbin lace on 
ine!!!  - I have learned many things since,  VBG  It was 6 months after I 
stopped going  and was really missing the social side of lacemaking lessons 
that I checked out and found the groups.  Smart move.


During my 4 years of lessons I began with Torchon, did some bedfordshire, 
found some cute tape lace pieces then onto bucks point and had two lessons 
in flanders lace.  I promised myself I would continue to work through that 
book, but I am ashamed to say I haven't managed to do that.  There are so 
many patterns out there and not enough hours in a day for me to do all I 
plan.  I have tried to learn millanese braids but find my braid lace doesn't 
lay down nicely enough.  Honiton is too fine for my poor eyes, not keen on 
all those sewings either.
With Ruths help I have succeeded to learn how to manipulate my easy lace 
program and am making lace patterns inspired by motifs in other lace 
patterns and books, but adapting them to suit me better.


With all your help I have two pieces of napkin lace ready to make up once 
the other two are complete, for our 40th wedding anniversary later this 
year.  I had some lovely suggestions (have chosen several if time allows.)


Reading all your before BL entries has been a real eye opener, I thought 
many of you were real genious lacemakers who did it all, so am surprised to 
find that is not so.


I have been inspired by many and helped by a good number too, so thank you 
all.

Sue T, Dorset UK


It's been fascinating reading all your messages about what you did Before
Lace.  It looks like many of us have spent years looking for lace and 
trying
other things before finding it.  My mum taught me to knit when I was 
little,

then I taught myself crochet in my teens.  But it wasn't until I was in my
late 20s that I discovered a book about bobbin lace and I knew that was 
what I

was meant to do!


I spent the next 41/2 years trying to work out how I could find the 
equipment
to start making lace.  I flirted with tatting and macramé, and knitting 
and
crocheting lace, but they wouldn't do.  Then DH bought me a Dryad lace 
making
kit for my birthday, he was fed up with me moaning about how much I wanted 
to
make lace!  And my love affair with lace started in earnest.  23 years and 
15

days later I'm still hooked!
Alison in Essex UK, where it's a nice if windy spring day


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Re: Fw: [lace] Before lace

2008-04-26 Thread Jeriames
In a message dated 4/26/2008 12:14:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
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have tried tatting, but am failing miserably.
 
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Dear Would-be Tatters,
 
Buried in Sue's list was the above tatting comment..  If you are  having 
problems with tatting, may I suggest you ask different people to try to  teach 
you?  It was my 4th teacher that  succeeded!



Jeri  Ames
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center



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Re: Fw: [lace] Before lace

2008-04-26 Thread Sue
Jeri, I have a book, I have been looking at sites, I sat in front of a u tube
video thinking how easy and clear she sounded (but my fingers are stiff and
shoulders too tensed, trying to keep up with the video too.
I did go to someone at a craft lesson who tried to show me.  Again, got some,
missed some, by the end of the two hours I was so tense that I fault sick and
ill.
I need to calm and chill, and have hoped to find someone I can see locally who
would go over and over it with me guiding me until I did get it.  I tried with
a shuttle and with a needle.   Got to the end of one ring and then didn't know
where to go next.
Trouble is I am so hooked on the bobbinlace, I dont spend enough concentrating
time on the tatting.  I am determined that I will learn, but have a deadline
for the current pieces.
I dont know anyone locally who does it to help me.  I am assuming it is just
me being thick, but I will find my book and try again.
Thank you for your encouragement.  Sue T

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have tried tatting, but am failing miserably.

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Dear Would-be Tatters,

Buried in Sue's list was the above tatting comment..  If you are having
problems with tatting, may I suggest you ask different people to try to teach
you?  It was my 4th teacher that succeeded!
  Jeri Ames
  Lace and Embroidery Resource Center





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[lace] Before lace

2008-04-21 Thread Gray, Alison J
Dear Fellow Spiders



It's been fascinating reading all your messages about what you did Before
Lace.  It looks like many of us have spent years looking for lace and trying
other things before finding it.  My mum taught me to knit when I was little,
then I taught myself crochet in my teens.  But it wasn't until I was in my
late 20s that I discovered a book about bobbin lace and I knew that was what I
was meant to do!



I spent the next 41/2 years trying to work out how I could find the equipment
to start making lace.  I flirted with tatting and macramé, and knitting and
crocheting lace, but they wouldn't do.  Then DH bought me a Dryad lace making
kit for my birthday, he was fed up with me moaning about how much I wanted to
make lace!  And my love affair with lace started in earnest.  23 years and 15
days later I'm still hooked!



It would be good if one or two of our male spiders would chip in on this one,
I'd love to know what they did before lace.



Alison in Essex UK, where it's a nice if windy spring day

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Re: [lace] Before lace

2008-04-21 Thread David in Ballarat

Dear Friends,

It would be good if one or two of our male spiders would chip in on this one,
I'd love to know what they did before lace.


You've finally managed to push me into this thread :)

- By the age of 8' I was able to do what we called finger crochet - 
just open chain using only your fingers, as well as French knitting 
- on the cotton reel hooking over the stitches.


- by 10yrs I was knitting in garter stitch and still have the dolls 
cardigan I knitted about that time when I made  my first attempt at 
Fair Isle. It was still all in garter stitch and looks a mess :)


- in the early years of high school I learned to crochet - mainly in 
the back row of the school choir.


- also during those Primary School years I had learned crewel 
embroidery, cross stitch, and Roman cut work.


- by the time I was 18yrs old I could churn out jumpers in Arran and 
Fair Isle as well as Granny's socks, and knitted lacey layettes.


- in my early 20s in London I started designing in both knitting and 
crochet - usually whilst on acid or speed - some amazing designs :) I 
remember vividly one night in 73 being at a Disco in Camden Town off 
my face and got this amazing inspiration for a layette for a new 
niece. I just had to get out of there to make it. So I WALKED home to 
Nottinghill Gate refining the design as I went. Of course the others 
beat me home in a cab. Nevertheless, 3 days later I emerged from my 
room holding that layette. My sister still has it, but never did hear 
the story of its inspiration.


- for many years I'd longed to learn to tat and tried numerous times 
from a book, but the flick of the hitch never clicked until one day 
by accident when I was about 27yrs old.


- It was about this time - mid 70s that I became aware of bobbin lace 
but never thought I would ever learn how to make it myself.


- In 1980, during drug rehab I learned Carrickmacross and made a few 
nice pieces. After that I got into the very fine knitted lace cloths 
and Shetland shawls.


- In the 80s and early 90s I refined and developed my tatting skills 
with much pleasure.


- then late in 1995 I finally learned bobbin lace with the wonderful 
help of my friends on Arachne - perhaps the first to do so.


Right now my large piece of Toender is 3/4 done and having a little 
rest for 6 months whilst I complete a petit point portrait on 40 
count silk gauze.


David in Ballarat

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[lace] Before Lace

2008-04-21 Thread Alan Sheila Brown
Like most people life revolved around the family, getting back to work, 
knitting, crochet and embroidery.  Remaking gardens on moving into a 
different house(twice before lace, now up to five!); helping DH build 
wardrobes etc. indooors  Outside we laid patios, built decorative walls 
- to keep the cattle out who wandered down from Epping Forest and loved 
our flowers.This latter problem may seem strange when you realise 
that we lived in a London suburb.   It has been allowed from time 
immemorial for farmers  in the area to graze their cattle in the 
forest.  Imagine what happens when they stray onto the roads!
Then in 1976 we moved to Hertfordshire, another house and garden, only 
this time it was an early C17th one.   A joy but a lot of work in 
looking after it especially as, here in England, houses pre- 1700 are 
all 'listed', so that they are maintained and not 'modernised'  too much.
It was suggested that to get to know people I should go to Adult 
Education Classes in the evening.   Fine!  However I refused (a) to 
trundle a small sofa on a wheelbarrow to the venue for upholstery 
classes(DH had the car for work);(b) the usual classes for 'women' ie 
typing, dressmaking etc did not appeal, but lacemaking did.
Thirty plus years later, a  fellow novice and I still make lace 
together.   Our tutor was Tordis Berndt, our textbook Maidment and 2 
Swedish books of photos and the number of bobbins/thread needed.   But 
NO patterns!  And so we had to work them out on graph paper which gave 
me a grounding in how the threads moved;  a great help when going onto 
Bucks.
In 1980  I started  teaching  Adult classes as well as in schools, and 
finally to writing teaching manuals for these.  And then to the pleasure 
of designing Point Ground.
In between , Alan(DH) and I sold craft books and organised Lacemaking 
Weekends. Amazing what a house  move can bring forth!
Our pockets are several thousand pounds lighter, but the joy of holding  
lovely bobbins and trying to  make lace worthy of them
makes it all worthwhile.   The new friends that one makes in person and 
over the net adds an  extra plus to life.
Lurking certainly brings out the memories and  Alan and I bless the day 
we decided to come north otherwise we would never have found lace and 
all its pleasures.


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[lace] Before Lace

2008-04-21 Thread Nancy Nicholson
Thank you for all your nice comments and offers of help I shall try and put in
my ideas and help needed now and then.

Before lace - not a lot I did try knitting, crochet and cross stitch (even
tried art) but I am not exactly talented in crafts and then along came
computers and everything went - all my time taken up learning how they worked
and playing games.

Then I was visiting a castle somewhere in England and they were demonstrating
making lace and I thought that looked relatively easy - all you had to do was
move the bobbins from one place to another - how difficult could that be!

Anyway it took me a good few years before I found EBAY and was looking through
the craft section when I saw lace and after that the rest is history as they
say.

Nancy Nicholson
Dundee
Where it is sunny but still very cold

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[lace] Before lace

2008-04-21 Thread Ruth Rocker
I guess I sort of started this discussion so I'll add my information, too.



Before lace, like a lot of you, I had tried my hand at a wide variety of
other things. My great grandmother taught me the things a girl needed to
know like embroidery, knitting, crochet and quilting starting when I was
very little. By the time she tried to teach me to tat I was into my tomboy
stage and refused to sit still that long. Many years later, however, when I
wanted to learn to tat I wish I had stayed around longer sigh.



I continued my thread work with counted thread work of many kinds along with
macramé (both large and small items). There was still some knitting and
crocheting but not much. I tried sewing clothes in home ec class in junior
high school and quickly learned my talents to NOT lie in that area :D



I've done different kinds of beadwork, both on and off a loom, tapestry
weaving and painting with oils, acrylics and watercolors.



I rediscovered quilting shortly before I discovered bobbin lace. DH was
stationed in Germany and a friend of mine did quilting and she rekindled my
interest in it. My fascination with bobbin lace began when I chaperoned a
school trip for my daughter's class to Brussels. We went into a shop on the
square and in the back of the store was a TV playing a video of someone
making lace. I was absolutely mesmerized by it. I had never known anything
about this beautiful art form and decided right then that I would have to
learn. I made the mistake of buying the horror kit from Lacis and nearly
gave up before I started. That thing is SO frustrating it's
unbelievable. If you know what you're doing it is okay, but in that case you
wouldn't be getting a beginner's kit. Luckily, I found a copy of Doris
Southard's book and, with DH's help, built a sturdy roller pillow.



Unfortunately, shortly after we moved back to the US the house we bought was
destroyed in 1999 by the tornadoes that tore through Oklahoma City and my
beautiful pillow was lost sob. But I have replaced all that equipment and
after dealing with the depression that event (and other subsequent traumas)
caused I have begun to get my life back. I have purchased several DVDs from
Hensel productions with a variety of different techniques. Right now, I'm
working on the Russian Tape lace butterfly with Lia Baumeister-Jonker.



Now, wasn't that more than you wanted to know? LOL





Ruth R. in Ohio

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