Re: [lace] Help with square Valenciennes ground, please
Hello Jean, 1. Angle of the ground - 45 degrees? 50 degrees? or something else? I didn't find anything about it but I will mesure it. 2. What is the best way of working the plait crossing? There seem to be several variations. I remember that when I learned it we did the the "round" ground in another way as the square one. I scan you privately the two working schemes so I couldn#t make a fault with translation. 3. Where best to place the pin - in centre of crossing? to one side? below? We know the ground should really be worked without pins but reckon we need to work up to that! We weren't allowed to put a pin so we didn't. But if I would do so by the round ground in the middle and by the square one I don't think it makes any sense to put one. Perhaps it would help to both sides outside. Here today the heat has gone and it is grey and rainish. Greetings Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Help with square Valenciennes ground, please
Jean I have a small half collar, or perhaps it's a cuff, with square Valenciennes ground that looks very much like that shown in Pat Earnshaw's Bobbin & Needle laces Identification & Care, page 58. Being curved it's difficult to say what the working angle is but it appears to be 45 deg or less rather than the 50 deg that Earnshaw suggests. It looks like 6 or 7 half stitches in each plait but I can't see what the crossing is - at x30 or on the scan. I've put a couple of scans on http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/sq_val.htm or http://tinyurl.com/7hmhp Brenda On 30 May 2005, at 10:56, Jean Leader wrote: A friend and I are trying to puzzle out how best to work square Valenciennes ground (the one in 19th century Valenciennes). There seem to be plenty of variations for Valenciennes ground in Cook & Stott's Bobbin Lace Stitches and Michael Guisiana's Binche Lace but none of them give us quite what we want. Does anyone have any hints or tips? What we'd particularly like to know about is 1. Angle of the ground - 45 degrees? 50 degrees? or something else? 2. What is the best way of working the plait crossing? There seem to be several variations. 3. Where best to place the pin - in centre of crossing? to one side? below? We know the ground should really be worked without pins but reckon we need to work up to that! Any help gratefully received. Jean in Glasgow where the sun is shining (despite today being a Bank Holiday) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Help with square Valenciennes ground, please
A friend and I are trying to puzzle out how best to work square Valenciennes ground (the one in 19th century Valenciennes). There seem to be plenty of variations for Valenciennes ground in Cook & Stott's Bobbin Lace Stitches and Michael Guisiana's Binche Lace but none of them give us quite what we want. Does anyone have any hints or tips? What we'd particularly like to know about is 1. Angle of the ground - 45 degrees? 50 degrees? or something else? 2. What is the best way of working the plait crossing? There seem to be several variations. 3. Where best to place the pin - in centre of crossing? to one side? below? We know the ground should really be worked without pins but reckon we need to work up to that! Any help gratefully received. Jean in Glasgow where the sun is shining (despite today being a Bank Holiday) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
