RE: [lace] Holding bobbins by the spangle

2009-04-13 Thread Patricia Dowden
Margot
 
What is a surgeon's knot, please?
 
Patricia in Wales
scotl...@aol.com

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A surgeon's knot is very much like a square knot (also known as a reef knot)

A square knot ties and overhand knot with left over right, then follows with
the opposite overhand knot of right over left.
A surgeon's knot doubles the overhand knot with left over right, then follow
with the opposite overhand knot of right over left.
A surgeon's knot is more secure than a square knot.

Patty

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[lace] Holding bobbins by the spangle

2009-04-11 Thread Beth Marshall
I think I know why picking up bobbins by the spangle is - from a conservation 
point of view - a no-no. Over the last couple of years I've had an ever 
increasing number of spangles break while working - at first I thought it was 
just on a few bobbins I'd spangled with finer than usual wire, but then other 
bobbins (including ones I'd bought ready spangled) started to shed their 
spangles. It really had me puzzled - the only common factor was that the 
bobbins had all been in fairly regular use since the 1980's - until I caught 
myself picking a bobbin up by the spangles! 

I realised that the problem started just after I'd changed from using 
crocheted elastic bobbin holders (slipped over the heads of the bobbins) to 
laces slipped through the spangles and tied up - the extra tension on the 
spangles had, over time, snapped some of the weaker wires and pulled apart the 
joins on others. Similarly, if a bobbin is regularly picked up by the spangle 
while working, eventually the tension on the wire could lead to it breaking, 
particularly if acids from sweaty hands trigger corrosion of the wire.

I don't think it ought to stop those who can't comfortably handle bobbins by 
the shaft  making lace - it takes a long time to break a spangle, and spangles 
can be replaced/rewired when they break - but it might be a good idea to watch 
out for damaged wires and respangle the bobbin before it breaks (I've had 
several go while working and its a real pain scrabbling around the floor 
trying to find the beads which have fallen off!, not to mention the difficulty 
of carrying on with one unspangled bobbin)

Beth
in a sunny, spring-like Cheshire, NW England
with several spangles to repair before winding the bobbins for my next 
project.

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[lace] Holding bobbins by the spangle

2009-04-11 Thread Margot Walker

On 11 Apr 2009, at 10:14, Beth Marshall wrote:


I don't think it ought to stop those who can't comfortably handle  
bobbins by
the shaft  making lace - it takes a long time to break a spangle,  
and spangles

can be replaced/rewired when they break


I don't hold my bobbins by the spangles.  Nevertheless, I've had many  
wired spangles break over the years.  Then I started using fishing  
line (with a surgeon's knot) instead of wire.  I liked it so much  
that I re-spangled all my bobbins.  After many years of use, I've  
only had 1 come unknotted.


(I've had several go while working and its a real pain scrabbling  
around the floor
trying to find the beads which have fallen off!, not to mention the  
difficulty

of carrying on with one unspangled bobbin)


That always happens when you're demonstrating somewhere or taking a  
class :D  And  you can never find one of the beads :D  In case that  
happens to me, I keep a safety pin in my kit.  You can put it through  
the spangle holes in the bobbin and it will keep the bobbin  from  
rolling.


Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada
Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site:
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot

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Re: [lace] Holding bobbins by the spangle

2009-04-11 Thread Norma Harris
Being a newbie to this beautiful skill I'm always on the lookout for helpful
hints and as soon as I post this I'm going to go get a nice size safty pin to
put in my kit.  Thanks!
Norma

http://normasneedlez.blogspot.com
http://sistersstitching.blogspot.com
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Re: [lace] Holding bobbins by the spangle

2009-04-11 Thread Scotlace
Margot
 
What is a surgeon's knot, please?
 
Patricia in Wales
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