[lace] Honiton/ Milanese
Hi All Thanks for all the advice I will now not be so frightened of Honiton. I know this might sound stupid but I do get a fear( I think fear is too strong a word but can't think of the word I want at the moment) of doing certain things at first it was sewing then adding a new thread when one breaks but with each piece of lace I do I learn a new technique so it is never boring and these things that I thought I would never be able to do are so simple that I feel silly for fearing them. I hope to get some lace done today we are decorating the bedroom and my dear other half has put me up new worktops etc for my lace and crafts I now have 6 foot of lovely worktop, later on he is putting up some shelves and then my workspace is complete and I can get working in there. the shelves he is putting up is actually made up form a chest of drawers turning upside down so I will have the deepth of shelves for my spare pillows etc. But while he is in there I haven't been able to get any lace done and I am now starting to get withdrawl symptoms. Have a great day Wendy _ All new Live Search at Live.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Honiton/Milanese
Hi Spiders Well it is me again sorry but since I have found out how to post so many questions have some into my mind. As I said in my last posting I am doing my first Milanese pattern I was looking through my books and was comparing Honiton to Milanese. To my inexperienced eye they look very similar can you tell me what the difference is as I have seen lovely Honiton patterns that I want to do but as yet have only learned Milanese and Torchon. thanks _ Great deals on almost anything at eBay.co.uk. Search, bid, find and win on eBay today! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Honiton/Milanese
They are very similar, and I have to admit that I can't understand why anyone that enjoys Honiton should not enjoy Milanese. To me, biased as I am because Milanese is my teaching 'speciality', the last thing I would describe Milanese as is boring. Where in Honiton all the braids are either cloth or half stitch with only the occasional light relief of a four pin bud or crossing course threads, in Milanese there are a vast range of decorated braids to choose from. I always think of Milanese as brain-lace, as you have all the same problems to solve as in any of the part laces such as where to start and finish, how many pairs to use and how to negotiate bends and corners, but at the same time you are planning where and how you can best fit braids in with the design. The thread is usually thicker but doesn't have to be; my first piece of nearly-Milanese (Byzantium Bird) was actually started as Honiton but I added a braid to the wings and spot spiders on the tail to make the raised and rolled work less boring. My next one was the Art Nouveaux Scrolls but this was still worked in 120 cotton. Now when I look at it I think it is too fine as you need to be close up to really see the braids. Maybe one day I'll do it again in Finca 80 or 100 which are the ones I mostly use now. Both these pieces are on my page on the arachne webshots ( http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/album/365120653RPpEgv ) along with some of my newer pieces. The main differences between the two laces are that the Honiton has mostly plain braids with patterned fillings, the Milanese has patterned braids and very often no fillings at all. Where it does have fillings they are used with restraint (or the whole effect is just too OTT) and are often a ground of some sort. A lot of Honiton patterns can be adapted slightly (and enlarged a bit) to make good Milanese ones. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Honiton/Milanese
From Wendy Davies ... To my inexperienced eye they look very similar can you tell me what the difference is as I have seen lovely Honiton patterns that I want to do but as yet have only learned Milanese and Torchon. thanks = Wendy, Trust your instincts. I have long said that Honiton is a tape lace. Honiton has had some unfortunate dips into the Slugs and Snails end of the tape lace world, but it does demonstrate that part laces are similar to tape laces. I think the biggest difference between Honiton and Milanese is the intention and the emphasis. MIlanese is a decorated tape that meanders to form a design. Honiton is more pictorial and the elements serve the picture, although many traditional motifs have all but lost their original design reference. and seem more geometrical. Generally, Honiton is worked in finer thread than Milanese and Honiton includes a coarse thread for added texture and definition. They are both worked with fillings between the major elements. The range of fillings has some overlap, but Honiton employs tallies while MIlanese generally does not. These are enormous generalities, since both Honiton and Milanese have centuries long histories. But your eye is true. They have similarities greater than many other pairs of laces. Patty - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
