RE: [lace] Lace history timeline-correction
Thank you Devon, just found a second hand copy of this book on eBay for £5.03 + postage. Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK It is in the Illustrated Dictionary of Lace, by Gwynne, not the Illustrated History of Lace. Thanks to Adele Shaak for drawing my attention to this error. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Lace history timeline
Perhaps one would like something more elaborate, but there is a bit of a timeline in The Illustrated History of Lace by Judyth L. Gwynne, p. 212-217. It is called Table Showing the Historical and Artistic Influences on the Development of Lace and Lace Design over the Centuries. For those who like maps, the table is followed by two maps, one of Lace Making Towns in the UK, and the other Lace Making Towns in Europe c1914. Devon PS. I note with satisfaction that it mentions: 1860 Fern Designs seen in lace, embroidery, etc - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Lace history timeline
Susan I'm not aware of such a timeline, and I am somewhat leery of creating one. I have many times thought about something like that, but have shied off each time. The reason is that the timeline, just for bobbin and needle lace alone, is enormously complex, convoluted, and open to disagreement. Creating a timeline alone would not be much help without photos to illustrate. Laces prior to 1700 are almost impossible to find photos of online, though I have a few. My pinboards on pinterest are partly an attempt to deal with one aspect of the problem, namely the various kinds which have names. I do have specific markers in my head for when certain technical elements appeared. But even sorting something like continental part lace into a coherent dated sequence is very difficult. The amount of work involved is daunting. The best I can offer at present is to suggest you look at my boards. In many cases (but not universally, yet) I have attached dates which I believe are reasonably correct. But in many cases I have mixed modern interpretations of a type into a group which has historical pieces, so viewers can see how modern design can express the same working methods. And I readily admit that my understanding of the details of needle lace history does not come anywhere near my understanding of bobbin lace history. There is one thing to keep in mind pertaining to the various needlework encyclopedias that were written between 1850 and 1920 -- they represent styles of lace that would be popular among hobbyists -- the people who would be buying and using those books. Professional lacemakers, who represent the peak of skill and knowledge, would not be using those books. They would not need to. Also anything involving machine made net could not possibly exist before 1780 (or thereabouts), when the net making machines were invented, and virtually all of it is later than 1820. https://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/ Lorelei Halley - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace history timeline
As a history student, I really love time-lines. But I find that the most difficult aspect is finding a way to integrate the geographical aspect. Sorry to make your task more difficult, but I think that the location of the lace's making must be at least as important as the date and style. However, I look forward with great interest to every attempt to achieve this research project, and hope that we might share in seeing the work-in-progress. Linda in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K. (still hoping that some day I will find a way to represent the complicated family trees of the medieval European nobility, who could have three or four spouses each in a lifetime, and whose families were much intermarried, and where becoming a god-parent at a christening really meant becoming part of the family too - multi-dimensional geometry anyone?). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Lace history timeline-correction
It is in the Illustrated Dictionary of Lace, by Gwynne, not the Illustrated History of Lace. Thanks to Adele Shaak for drawing my attention to this error. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Lace history timeline?
Hello All! Is there such an animal? Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Lace history timeline?
Well let's try that again--is there such an animal? G**gle didn't find much. To be specific, there are all sorts of historical timelines for various subjects but I didn't find one for lace. Before attempting to create my own timeline, I thought I would ask the experts. With Arachne help, I've got the 1860's covered, but adding other eras techniques would help those of us who are history-challenged. Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
