[lace] Miss Channer's mat pricking and Pope's cope
I've just noticed that on the bottom of my pricking of Miss Channer's mat is printed Pricking adapted by Patricia Bury from an earlier copy in her collection There certainly are equally/more challenging Buck Point patterns. Just one is in Fine Buckinghamshire Point Lace Patterns Belonging to the Misses Sivewright and Pope, which has been mentioned. In it there's a pricking for part of a Bishop's cope. It's mentioned in Thomas Wright's Romance of the Lace Pillow with a photo of part of it on page 64. There's a photo of the finished item on: http:://www.cyberlink.co.uk/pblc/cope.htm The person who jokingly challenged Malcom Down to make it was me after he'd completed Miss Channer's Mat, and he would gleefully show me how far he'd got at each meeting of PBLC. If you have the Sivewright and Pope book, you'll see just how large it is - half the pricking spreads across two A3 pages and those two have to be mirrored for the other half. Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Miss Channer's mat pricking and Pope's cope
I think that Jean has just told us where to go for information on copyright of the pricking. If it has been adapted by Pat Bury then the copyright will have started for that pricking, with her. She may have sold it to Ruth Bean, or licensed it to her but this should be, as others have said, our starting point Kind Regards Liz Baker On 5 Jan 2014, at 08:25, Jean Nathan jean...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: I've just noticed that on the bottom of my pricking of Miss Channer's mat is printed Pricking adapted by Patricia Bury from an earlier copy in her collection - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Miss Channer's mat pricking and Pope's cope
Liz wrote: I think that Jean has just told us where to go for information on copyright of the pricking. If it has been adapted by Pat Bury then the copyright will have started for that pricking, with her. She may have sold it to Ruth Bean, or licensed it to her but this should be, as others have said, our starting point Or Ruth Bean might have commissioned and paid Patricia Bury to produce the pricking for her and that is why Ruth Bean holds the copyright on it. I doubt that Patricia Bury would be willing to make a another different adaption from the one she has in her collection. It must have taken a long time to draft and test the one she did. The one in her collection presumably is the copyright of someone else, possibly Catherine Channer - how complicated these things can be. The one I have has obviously been professional, probably mechanically, pricked. It probably cost a lot to have the machinery set up to do that, and that could be part of the reason why Ruth Bean was unwilling to produce more. But I suspect that most people would be willing to prick it themselves if they could just get their hands on a legal print of the pricking. Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
