Re: [lace] Re: Bobbin Lace - no, not tatting!
>And then there is >I would never have the patience to do something like that." My answer - "You learn the patience when you learn the lace!" My answer is: It doesn't take patience to do something you enjoy! Lorri - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Bobbin Lace - no, not tatting!
From: Barbara Joyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I do correct them, though, and let them know that (as Alice has > alreadypointed out), it only takes patience if you don't enjoy it. > One man yesterday was incredulous at that, and asked me flat out if I > could say I really *enjoy* making bobbin lace. I like my friend's answer: "No, weeding takes patience. Dusting takes patience. Washing dishes takes patience. Lacemaking is FUN!" I point out that if it took patience, I couldn't do it--I have none. However, I don't mind the "patience" remark as much as, "Oh, that's so tedious!" By definition, it can't be tedious--tedious is when you're not having fun doing what you're doing. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Bobbin Lace - no, not tatting!
In a message dated 8/31/2005 1:08:46 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > had the following comment at a demonstration this past July, "My > grandmother tatted, but she used a different thingy to do it." I had a > shuttle and bit of tatting nearby to show her the difference. Then I got, > "Yes, that is the bobbin she used, but I like the way you tat with so many > sticks." Go figure - This is a common exchange at most demonstrations. > Different times, different people... > ::<)) Makes me wonder, though -- IS there another verb to use besides "making lace" (when it isn't "tatting," that is)? "Lacing" doesn't seem right! If not, maybe we need to invent a new verb, dust off an old one, or import one from another language! Ricki in Utah - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Bobbin Lace - no, not tatting!
I had the following comment at a demonstration this past July, "My grandmother tatted, but she used a different thingy to do it." I had a shuttle and bit of tatting nearby to show her the difference. Then I got, "Yes, that is the bobbin she used, but I like the way you tat with so many sticks." Go figure - This is a common exchange at most demonstrations. Different times, different people... Happy Lacemaking, Betty Ann Rice in Roanoke, Virginia USA - Original Message - From: "Lynn Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> We did the opposite, demonstrating mostly-tatting at the Michigan Fiber Festival a week and a half ago, and we do occasionally get "Oh, look, bobbin lace! My grandmother had one of those 'tatting bobbins'." - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Bobbin Lace - no, not tatting!
In a message dated 8/31/2005 12:37:15 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > When they say they think bobbin > lace takes patience, I take it as a compliment. > > I do correct them, though, and let them know that (as Alice has already > pointed out), it only takes patience if you don't enjoy it. These comments remind me of others I've heard, whenever someone undertakes a long-term commitment, such as earning a degree, or learning any skill that takes time to execute and perfect. That is: Time is going to pass anyway - you might as well use it to accomplish something meaningful to you. It seems to me that virtually everything worth doing requires a lot in terms of time, patience, and commitment. Just my $.02 worth Regards, Ricki in Utah - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Bobbin Lace - no, not tatting!
I don't consider that comment disparaging, unless perhaps it is self-depricating on the part of the speaker. When they say they think bobbin lace takes patience, I take it as a compliment. I do correct them, though, and let them know that (as Alice has already pointed out), it only takes patience if you don't enjoy it. One man yesterday was incredulous at that, and asked me flat out if I could say I really *enjoy* making bobbin lace. When I smiled broadly and insisted that it is great fun and one of my favorite activities, I think he was really impressed! Barbara Joyce Snoqualmie, WA USA > I don't do much lace, lately, but I've heard that particular, > disparaging comment for decades, --Sue (Montana, USA) > > Elizabeth Pass wrote: > >>> And then there is >>> I would never have the patience to do something like that." >> >> >> >> >> My answer - "You learn the patience when you learn the lace!" >> >> >> Liz Pass >> (in Poole) >> > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Bobbin Lace - no, not tatting!
I don't do much lace, lately, but I've heard that particular, disparaging comment for decades, and in reference to a variety of forms of needlework (quilting, monochrome embroidery, spinning, knitting). My mother was a great one for saying it (more in honest bewilderment than anything), but then, it's through her family that I inherited the ability to sit and concentrate on stuff, as well as the *need* to do it. Her father was a weaver in his spare time, and came from a family of weavers. It just skipped her part of the family gene pool. Skipped most (but not all) of my cousins, as well. I really do think it's either one of those things a person *gets*, or they just *don't get.* Which is what makes lists like this so wonderful, because it reminds me I'm not a lone, lost soul up here in NW Montana...there are others like me in just about every continent on the planet! ;-D --Sue (Montana, USA) Elizabeth Pass wrote: And then there is I would never have the patience to do something like that." My answer - "You learn the patience when you learn the lace!" Liz Pass (in Poole) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sorry I think I send it to the private adr. ! some remarks here in DK is "its to difficult for me to learn" I say it is easy if you can count to four, you can learn it, "I can't count to four" I say Then two, will do, so no exuse not to learn bobbin lace. Dorte in Denmark www.f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/dorte_zielke/my_photos - Original Message - From: "Barb ETx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Elizabeth Pass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Lynn Carpenter'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Re: Bobbin Lace - no, not tatting! My answer is.. that you have to be curious and have lots of "want-to". BarbE - Original Message - From: "Elizabeth Pass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Lynn Carpenter'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 9:57 AM Subject: RE: [lace] Re: Bobbin Lace - no, not tatting! >And then there is I would never have the patience to do something like that." My answer - "You learn the patience when you learn the lace!" Liz Pass (in Poole) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.17/85 - Release Date: 30/08/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/86 - Release Date: 31-08-2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: Bobbin Lace - no, not tatting!
At 07:57 AM 8/31/2005, you wrote: >And then there is >I would never have the patience to do something like that." My answer - "You learn the patience when you learn the lace!" My answer - "You only need patience when you have to do things you don't enjoy doing." I have to admit that I get some startled looks sometimes. Alice in Oregon -- getting ready for a full day of demo at state fair today with my friend who got Judges Choice for her tablecloth. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Bobbin Lace - no, not tatting!
My answer is.. that you have to be curious and have lots of "want-to". BarbE - Original Message - From: "Elizabeth Pass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Lynn Carpenter'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 9:57 AM Subject: RE: [lace] Re: Bobbin Lace - no, not tatting! >And then there is I would never have the patience to do something like that." My answer - "You learn the patience when you learn the lace!" Liz Pass (in Poole) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.17/85 - Release Date: 30/08/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: Bobbin Lace - no, not tatting!
>And then there is >I would never have the patience to do something like that." My answer - "You learn the patience when you learn the lace!" Liz Pass (in Poole) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.17/85 - Release Date: 30/08/2005 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Bobbin Lace - no, not tatting!
"I would never have the patience to do something like that." This is one of the most common comments, in response to which I usually either ask what their hobbies are (if they have any at all) or ask them if they knit. I then say I don't have the patience to do plain knitting (that's what my machines are for) so if I hand knit it has to be fairisle or cable or lace, and even then I find it boring compared to bobbin lace. But one of the most unbelievable comments I ever heard was when I was demonstrating solo, but with a steady stream of children working on 'the snake'. A Mum came by with two little girls in the 6 to 9 age range, who both wanted to see what I was doing. She caught hold of their hands and dragged them away with the memorable explanation "You wouldn't be interested in that - it *takes time*" I wonder what that family did with their time that it was too precious to do crafts with some of it. Watch television? Play computer games? Retail therapy? Well, not expand their children's knowledge of what goes on in the wider world, that's for sure. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: Bobbin Lace - no, not tatting!
Hi Lynn, You said: "We did the opposite, demonstrating mostly-tatting at the Michigan Fiber Festival a week and a half ago, and we do occasionally get "Oh, look, bobbin lace! My grandmother had one of those 'tatting bobbins'." I was at the Michigan Fiber Festival on Sunday and visited your booth. You have a lovely, informative display. Thanks for going the extra mile. Keep up the good work! Susie Johnson Morris Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Bobbin Lace - no, not tatting!
Barbara Joyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Speaking of which, I had the pleasure of demonstrating bobbin lace at the >Evergreen State Fair in Washington today, my first experience demonstrating >bobbin lace. > >My goodness, if I had a nickel for everyone who said I was tatting, it would >have paid for my lunch! I think it was someone on Arachne who blamed this on crossword puzzles, where the clue "To make lace" always seems to be filled in with "tat". We did the opposite, demonstrating mostly-tatting at the Michigan Fiber Festival a week and a half ago, and we do occasionally get "Oh, look, bobbin lace! My grandmother had one of those 'tatting bobbins'." This year one member brought a bobbin lace pillow, and there was another demonstration set up by a second group with a lace pillow, so we could easily point out the differences. Usually the top comments we get are "Oh, my grandmother/great aunt used to tat!" followed by "But I never learned." And then there is "I would never have the patience to do something like that." (This from people who will sit -- patiently? -- at a spinning wheel or weaving loom for hour after hour.) I usually say with a smile, "I don't know if it's patience so much as obsession!" Lynn Carpenter in SW Michigan, USA alwen at i2k dot com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
