Re: [lace] Re: exhibition in Dortmund, Germany

2005-07-11 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Perhaps one made in Tenerife lace? The technique is also known as "sol 
(sun) lace" in some parts of the world.


No, not Tenerife- or Sol-lace. The doily I mentioned is bobbin-lace, 
around a sun figers, houses and so on are done, I think admireing the 
sun, and therefore the name.


Ilske

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[lace] Re: exhibition in Dortmund, Germany

2005-07-10 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Jul 10, 2005, at 7:25, Bridget Marrow wrote:


Bohemian garnets are real garnets. They produce loads of them,


Thanks, I didn't know that.


But please, what is a "sun doiley"?


Perhaps one made in Tenerife lace? The technique is also known as "sol 
(sun) lace" in some parts of the world.

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Re: [lace] Re: exhibition in Dortmund, Germany

2005-07-10 Thread Nicole Bouchez
Ilse, 

Thanks for the great report.  Very interesting.  I
thought I had heard that the huge late 1800 (what
english speakers call victorian) fans were from when
the dresses had those huge skirts, wasp waists and
huge sleeves (called as "mutton legs" maybe?).  Since
the dresses were so oversized, the fans had to be
proportional as well. Earlier fans are smaller and so
as the later ones.

Nicole
in Guilderland, NY 


--- Ilske Thomsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
 One a very big lace-fan only
> the lace but about 45 
> cm broad. I know that fans of the so called
> Gründerzeit about 1875/1880 
> were ver huge but so big and in lace. I am wondering
> if it ever was a 
> fan and how this lady handled it, but looking at it
> and admire the work 
> was fantastic.
...
> Ilske





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Re: [lace] Re: exhibition in Dortmund, Germany

2005-07-10 Thread Ilske Thomsen

Hello Tamara,
Thank you for clearyfing the name of this beautiful stone. I  like its 
colour very much. Yes it is easy to copy it but in the case of these 
dresses Ithink they are genuine. It's not a fault writing of dresses, 
there are four of them. The one in Vamberk what was I think this one of 
the exhibitionin Montreal. Number next in Dortmund, another one in 
Brussel and one in Den Haag in the costume museum.
I forget to mentioned that there are a few older lace pieces to see in 
Dortmund as well. At the third floor together with furnitures and other 
items of the 19. century they decorated some Duchesse de Bruxelles and 
Rosaline and others. One a very big lace-fan only the lace but about 45 
cm broad. I know that fans of the so called Gründerzeit about 1875/1880 
were ver huge but so big and in lace. I am wondering if it ever was a 
fan and how this lady handled it, but looking at it and admire the work 
was fantastic.
These laces are from the collection of Lydia Immenroth who lived from 
1919 til 1998 and was a professor at the textile school at Dortmund and 
had a speciel interest for laces.

Greetings

Ilske

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[lace] Re: exhibition in Dortmund, Germany

2005-07-10 Thread Bridget Marrow
Thank you, Ilske, for your description of what sounds like a marvellous 
exhbition - I only wish I could get to see it.  I was lucky enough last year 
to go to the OIDFA meeting in Prague and see the work of Emilie Palicková 
and other wonderful Czech lace makers


Bohemian garnets are real garnets.  They produce loads of them, as well as 
the beautiful glass beads that Tamara was thinking of.


But please, what is a "sun doiley"?

Bridget, in Watford England, where the sun is shining at last and I might be 
able to make lace in the garden this afternoon.


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[lace] Re: Exhibition in Dortmund, Germany

2005-07-10 Thread Karolina Jeffers

Hello all,

In response to Ilske's and Tamara's notes I would like to contribute further 
information -

The dress made for the 1967 Montreal World Exhibition was black/silver lace
with Bohemian Garnets - these are found in central
and north Bohemia. Bohemia is a part of Czech Republic.
The precious stones are blood red and are cut to a point to reflect the 
light making the stones sparkle.
The Bohemian Garnet jewellery is very beautiful and goes back to 13th 
century.
During the OIDFA conference there was an exhibition of  Bohemian Garnet 
Jewellery

in Prague not far from the Charles Bridge.
The dress exhibited in Montreal is on a permanent exhibition in the Lace 
Museum

in Vamberk. The dress was and still is very much admired by all who see it.
I wish I could see the exhibition in Dortmund.

Karolina
from chilly Melbourne, where winter is in a full swing
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 Subject: [lace] Re: exhibition in Dortmund, Germany

On Jul 9, 2005, at 12:21, Ilske Thomsen wrote:


the most expensive dress, a variation from the one Eva Fialova made
for the world exhibition in Montreal in 1967, which has bohemian
Granate (I can't find the english word for it, sorry)


Granat(e) is garnet(s) - a red, semi-precious stone (it's the same in
Polish as in German, that's how I know ) Since you say the stones
are Bohemian, they might be glass reproductions.

Thanks for the report; it's always good to hear of a lace exhibit in an
*Art* museum.
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[lace] Re: exhibition in Dortmund, Germany

2005-07-09 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Jul 9, 2005, at 12:21, Ilske Thomsen wrote:

the most expensive dress, a variation from the one Eva Fialova made 
for the world exhibition in Montreal in 1967, which has bohemian 
Granate (I can't find the english word for it, sorry)


Granat(e) is garnet(s) - a red, semi-precious stone (it's the same in 
Polish as in German, that's how I know ) Since you say the stones 
are Bohemian, they might be glass reproductions.


Thanks for the report; it's always good to hear of a lace exhibit in an 
*Art* museum.

--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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[lace] Re: exhibition in Dortmund, Germany

2005-07-09 Thread Ilske Thomsen

Dear Lacefriends,
Perhaps you would like to read something nice after all this bad 
happenings. So I'll tell you about the modern lace exhibition in the 
Museum für Kunst und Kulturgeschiche in Dortmund. This is in the 
western part of Germany. There you see laces for wearing from 1925 till 
today. Mostly collars, some dresses and jackets and several piece of 
jewellery. The "oldest" piece is the "sun-doilly" from 1925 designed 
from Emilie Palicková, one of the famous teacher at the art-school in 
Prague, those of us who were there last year know how she was. And also 
several lace pieces from her students which became famous as Marie 
Vanková-Kuchynková or Eva Fialova and so on till now. Also some 
lace-artists from other parts of Europe.
You can imagine these aren't laces made with linen or cotton, no from 
plastic, metall and other in former time unusual material for 
lacemaking.
All these wonderful things are decorated on black puppets (without head 
and arms) "dressed" in  black  fabric. And are standing free not behind 
glass, so you can go around one figure and study it very well. The 
smaller pieces are behind glass and the most expensive dress, a 
variation from the one Eva Fialova made for the world exhibition in 
Montreal in 1967, which has bohemian Granate (I can't find the english 
word for it, sorry) in it as well.
It is a small exhibition but a fascinating one, even though I have seen 
several of the parts I spent more then two hour there.

It still runs till 7. of august 2005 and is open tuesday till sunday,
Greetings

Ilske

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