Re: [lace] Re: copyright and copying magazines
Liz wrote: Now here's a thought - let's take the Bible - say, the new Testament - OK, even at latest date the last books of the New Testament are supposed to have been written about the end of the first century so they are 2000 years old - obviously over the 50 years since the death of the authors. BUT I can't quote from the NT here because any quote I give will be a translation which is owned by the translator or their heirs. Sorry, but that analogy doesn't hold. Quoting a fragment of the New Testament here is certainly permitted because it falls under the category of fair usage. If this were not the case, scholars in the humanities would have a really tough time discussing texts! It's hard to imagine people carving tombstones saying The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want and paying royalties to the translators of the King James Version. You would not, however, be permitted to put up a Web site with the entire text of a copyrighted translation. go back to the original text (if I can find it ... most of the original greek texts are lost) and retranslate it (after I have learnt new testament greek) and then quote it. No, they're not lost. The New Testament papyri are numerous and quite well preserved. That's not even taking into consideration the thousands of quotations and references in other ancient translations and in the works of the Church Fathers, which are also important witnesses to the original text. I think that it's time to move this topic to lace-chat, because it's straying into general discussion about copyright and is becoming less lace-related. BTW, if you think lace books are expensive, you should do an Amazon search on my name. It's a good thing I get free copies of my books, because there's no way I'd shell out that kind of money for them! g Best wishes, Avital, Arachne moderator, PhD in New Testament and ancient Jewish literature (Harvard University), and former Chief of Publications, Orion Center for the Study of the Dead Sea Scrolls - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: copyright and copying magazines
Sorry for the PS; ought to have included it with my previous, long, message... On Thursday, Aug 28, 2003, at 15:07 US/Eastern, Jane Partridge wrote: As I understand it - in terms of British copyright, anyway, in this sort of case the author/designer holds copyright to the article/pattern but the magazine holds copyright on the layout. I used to copy my own patterns from magazines, when I got requests for them. Don't do it any more, because copying prickings/diagrams from my own notes and printing the text straight from the 'puter gives more accurate results, esp in the cases of the European/US conflict in paper size. It hadn't even occured to me that, by copying from a magazine, I was contravening copyright laws, even though I was copying my own patterns... Almost enough to stop one from being too public-spirited, innit? g - Tamara P Duvall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: copyright and copying magazines
In a message dated 8/28/03 11:43:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bev brings up something I've wondered about. If I buy the magazine with her design in it, would it violate copyright if I let my friend(s) copy her pattern? Are they supposed to buy their own copies of the magazine in order to do a pattern from it? What if the magazine is not available, either because it requires a subscription/membership for a whole year (too late, when you see a pattern in the current issue) or it's an old issue? YES! It does violate copyright. Your friend should buy it, you are not legally entitled to copy it for anyone else but yourself. If the mag is out of print, it still applies. If they need to be a member, then maybe they should join. Copyright is copyright and just because someone is a friend or doesn't want to be inconvenienced by having to hunt down a back issue on ebay or something, it is still a copyright violation! Ohh, back on the list for less than a week and I stumbled on my soap box! LOL. As an artist, I've looked into copyright extensively as well as working at the Wash. Post, where we have copyright presentations by the staff lawyers frequently. Even if the law seems silly, it IS the law. Pam ;-) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: copyright and copying magazines
In a message dated 08/28/2003 1:25:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Copyright is copyright and just because someone is a friend or doesn't want to be inconvenienced by having to hunt down a back issue on ebay or something, it is still a copyright violation! As I recall this original posting dealt with the situation where Bev designs a pattern and gives her permission, for free, to a lace magazine to publish it because she would like to share it with as many people as possible. The lace magazine has not bought the pattern. I think Bev is the copyright holder in this case and she feels she would like to share it with as many people as possible. So, is the copyright being violated, or is the pattern being used with permission when someone copies it. Does the publication which has not bought the pattern have a property interest in it that it can protect by limiting use when it is Bev's desire to share the pattern as widely as possible? Devon - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
