[lace] Re: wide floral Bucks Point
Hello Ruth I think it was Mrs Winifred Millar who said something to the effect that a piece of lace when laid over the palm of your hand should remain relatively horizontal and not *droop* over the edge. Diana - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: wide floral Bucks Point
Hi Diana - I'm glad to hear it!! 'Cos that's why I made a conscious decision to only use threads made for lacemaking!!If I'm going to put all that effort into making a piece of lace, I like it to present itself to the world as if it's saying wow! look at me rather than oh dear, I'm exhausted from all that sitting on the pillow - all I want to do is go to sleep I'm not into contemporary or coloured lace - strictly a traditional girl, me -so it was an easy decision to make. And may I assure all of you who use DMC and other threads, I'm not criticising your choice - just explaining what I do and why. Regards, Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) Diana Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Ruth I think it was Mrs Winifred Millar who said something to the effect that a piece of lace when laid over the palm of your hand should remain relatively horizontal and not *droop* over the edge. Diana - http://personals.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Personals New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: wide floral Bucks Point
I was always taught that it was DMC 30 for Torchon and DMC 50 for Bucks Does this help Liz Tamara P. Duvall wrote: Unlike Tonder lace which seems to use, mostly, 140/2 (120/2 if you like your lace less gauzy) both for the simple and the complex patterns, I don't think there *is* a standard size for Floral Bucks any more than there is for the Geometric version. You could, probably, make Floral in 80/2 if you wanted to; just copy your pattern so that the pin dots are spaced correctly... :) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: wide floral Bucks Point
Whilst, in my opinion, thread the size of DMC 50 is suitable for a lot of Bucks patterns, an equal number require thread even finer. It all depends on the size of the grid the pattern is drawn on - and a common way of measuring that is by counting the number of footside pinholes per inch (or cm).I regularly use either Brok 100/2 or 120/2 for Bucks - both of which are finer than DMC 50. Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) Liz Beecher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was always taught that it was DMC 30 for Torchon and DMC 50 for Bucks Does this help Liz http://personals.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Personals New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: wide floral Bucks Point
I've found that DMC threads tend to get a bit fluffy after a while - my favourite fine Floral Bucks Point thread is Kantklosgaren Egyptian Cotton 70/2, which when worked has a nice sheen. I almost always use ecru but that is a personal preference. Diana - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: wide floral Bucks Point
Diana,I agree with you about DMC threads - I either use Brok or Egyptian Cotton, both being threads made specifically for lace making. They hold their shape well when finished too. I was really turned off using DMC after watching lace exhibited in the local show - all the pieces made with DMC or similar wilted whilst on display, whilst those pieces made with Brok, Egyptian cotton or linen looked as good at the end of the show as they did at the beginning. Another thread I like is Presencia Finca - the 80 is about the same size as Egyptian Cotton 90 or Brok 100/2, and the 100 equals Egyptian 100/2 or Brok 120/2 Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) --- Diana Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've found that DMC threads tend to get a bit fluffy after a while - my favourite fine Floral Bucks Point thread is Kantklosgaren Egyptian Cotton 70/2, which when worked has a nice sheen. I almost always use ecru but that is a personal preference. Diana http://personals.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Personals New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: wide floral Bucks Point
On Jan 3, 2004, at 17:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Julie in Baltimore) wrote: (it's exciting to use lots of bobbins; the most I've ever used was 50 pairs) g The most I've ever worked with -- I think -- was 48 basic (I don't count gimps and the in-and-out ones used for corners only). An, while working with them was no problem, I didn't find it all that exciting, either; all that pricking, all that winding, and then so many to get rid of decently... Definitely not my cup o'T, which is why the Polychrome version of the windrose ornament got pushed onto the back burner; 40 basic pairs (+6 prs gimps, +6 prs coloured weavers), all for a piece 4 long and 3 wide seemes a bit excessive... Plus undetermined number of passive prs added just for motifs? I think I'll dispense with those :) | I'd like to aim for making Bucks at the standard size but it is not clear to me what the standard size is. My books don't go into that. I'm pretty sure the size at which I now work, using Egyptian Cotton 80/2, is too big. Should I be aiming for cotton 100/2? 120/2? I don't know what my goal should be. Unlike Tonder lace which seems to use, mostly, 140/2 (120/2 if you like your lace less gauzy) both for the simple and the complex patterns, I don't think there *is* a standard size for Floral Bucks any more than there is for the Geometric version. You could, probably, make Floral in 80/2 if you wanted to; just copy your pattern so that the pin dots are spaced correctly... :) Holly van Sciver's thread chart gives you a good idea what thread might go with which spacing. Or, you might look at the 100 Traditional Bobbin Lace Patterns by Geraldine Stott and Bridget Cook. Although most of the patterns in the book are scaled for DMC Retors d'Alsace # 60 (which, according to Brenda Paternoster's Threads for Lace, is *slightly* thicker than Egyptian Cotton 80/2; same size as 70/2), the one pictured on the cover -- Seascape -- is made in 120/2. It's not Floral Bucks -- the number of pairs remains constant (except for corners), even in the cloth stitched parts. But it does give you an idea of the difference in pin spacing needed for either thread. A lot of people think of that pattern as the cream of the book, because of the finer thread. Me, if I ever wanted to try a Bucks pattern with 55 (basic) pairs, I'd probably go for the Rosa Perfecta in the same book, and just copy it slightly finer -- there's a much nicer balance of thick and thin in that one; the Seascape has too much of the plain, boring, net :) - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: wide floral Bucks Point
And my lace content: I'm struggling to finish pricking a wide floral Bucks handkerchief edging - I'm coming down the fourth side now. It'll be a relief to start working it, after all this pricking! Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia) I wish I could make floral Bucks. I've been ages working very slowly through my how-to-make-Bucks book. What does your edging look like? How wide is it? How many bobbins does it use (it's exciting to use lots of bobbins; the most I've ever used was 50 pairs)? Did you get it from a book? What size thread and how many holes per inch? I'd like to aim for making Bucks at the standard size but it is not clear to me what the standard size is. My books don't go into that. I'm pretty sure the size at which I now work, using Egyptian Cotton 80/2, is too big. Should I be aiming for cotton 100/2? 120/2? I don't know what my goal should be. Julie Baltimore MD - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
