Re: [lace] What do bobbin and needle lace have in common?/Needlelace revival

2018-03-31 Thread N.A. Neff
Devon,

I propose that they are the two major forms of handmade, historically
important lace, forms with which the general public is not familiar and
doesn't know how to make, even in very general terms. Other than that, I
agree with the implication of your question -- they don't share anything
except what they share by virtue of being forms of lace.

But needle lace and bobbin lace deserve to be treated together, in a show
such as yours for example, because of the first point above, and because
they are functionally similar enough (in spite of fundamental structural
differences) that they can be combined harmoniously (Duchesse with Point de
Gaze inserts, for a historical example).

Nancy
Connecticut, USA


On Mar 31, 2018 13:43, "DevonThein" wrote:

... Now I have the intellectual problem that the only thing that bobbin and
needle
lace had in common were that they were once made in white and looked very
similar at that time, converging ...  Now that they are
not made in white, what do they have in common?

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[lace] What do bobbin and needle lace have in common?/Needlelace revival

2018-03-31 Thread DevonThein
Catherine asks< Is there anyone out there who makes/teaches fine white
traditional needlelace?>
Carolyn Wetzel and Laurie Waters are both traditionalists. Although I do not
teach, I have spent an inordinate amount of time looking at old laces and
admiring them. I love Catherine’s books and have recommended them widely.
But, it is an interesting question. From the need to qualify Needlelace with
the term “fine white traditional” would I be correct in assuming that the
use of color is no longer controversial and that colored pieces worked in
buttonhole stitch are now considered lace?
I think that in the 1960s and 1970s the use of color was revolutionary and
shocking, often calling for condemnation from the “lace police”. I sense
it is no longer the case. Color is really mainstream. But, this is part of the
problem that I am encountering when I try to explain what lace is to the
public. I present all these works such as Ros Hills and Wako Ono, and there is
nothing in them to signal “lace” to the public. One is a form of weaving,
and one is marginally an embroidery technique.
I have tried to concentrate the show on bobbin and needle lace because I think
that these techniques are not well-known, and need to be introduced to the
public. Crochet, tatting, macramé, lace knitting, etc. are better known and
need no introduction.

Now I have the intellectual problem that the only thing that bobbin and needle
lace had in common were that they were once made in white and looked very
similar at that time, converging in appearance due to the demand for white
luxury neckwear that existed in the 17th and 18th century.  Now that they are
not made in white, what do they have in common?

Devon

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